Shin Gouken
12-21-2005, 11:56 PM
im sorry to disapoint everyone but i dont think its actually possible. i'll list you through the different approaches i took which all seemed hopeful, but unfortunatley it cant be done at level 50.
First, i had no choice but to equip a bare handed fighter. Thats because they can equip ribbons and bonemail which was the only way i could survive whiteball. Its impossible to kill x-death before he uses it
This means i had to find ways of healing an undead character. I learned that whitewind will heal an undead character. Casting fire magic on a character wearing a fire ring will cure them. And attacking with bloodswords heals the undead so an undead character holding a bloodsword would indeed be healed by the given damage.
So as one of my abilities i was going to need black magic, blue magic or aim so i could heal my character as i undoubtedly would need to.
First i attempted holding two bloodswords and using aim. This way i could attack and heal in the same turn. I added white magic so i could cast protes, shell, image and reflect on my character. This was very easy to begin with because x-death used only physical attacks for the first 15 turns which i guess is something he does if only one character is alive. he occasionally used whiteball but it failed everyturn. when he got to low health, he used meteo and holy too, Holy was espeacially effective against my undead character but just by attacking i healed the damage. i only had 3714HP so would heal to max after every hit. However when he transformed to neo x-death the stuation changed more drastically then i imagined. With x-death i was actually getting up to four attacks per turn thanks to my winged shoes. Neo x-death's speed rose so sharply that he was attacking twice for every attack i was given. Just by attacking i was healing the damage i received but a simple dispel made sure i didnt survive his following attacks. fail
Next i changed my abilities for JUMP and BLUE. so basically i could put gaurdian up for a fast defense if he dispelled me, and by jumping i would be missing alot of his attacks. My attack power with my bloodswords didnt increase with jump like i had hoped but it was more effective than aim as jump attacks also never miss, so my bloodswords would both hit every time after a jump attack. i was wiped out however when i got turned into a zombie by his grand cross attack. Ribbons do not protect from zombie
I also tried adding to the above strategies DRINK and THROW. drink enabled me to double my maximum HP but didnt prove very effective because my bloodswords couldnt heal that much HP in a turn, and i sacraficed BLUE/WHITE magic which means no preotective magic, so the extra HP useless because without my protective magic he was inflicting more damage, of which i couldnt heal. THROW was an attempt to cause huge damage faster. by throwing weapons i no longer needed, i could inflict 9999HP a turn. Ragnarok, Braveblade, Excalibur, Excalipur and Strato all flew out for inflicted fast damage and then magishurikens would hit for over 8000HP when my weapons ran out. This started off great but again i had no protective magic and less hp so although i hung in there, i would not have lasted the duration of the battle
This means i needed white magic for putting up my defense at the beginning which is easy against x-deaths physical attacks, then equiping the genji shield and defender blade to up my defense and evade. whitewind for healing. gaurdian for a quick defense when hit by dispel. and holy for attacking. This is pretty much what id been forced to use from what i learned from my other attempts. But when neo x-death appears i spend every turn using whitewind which very quickly becomes less and less effective until i die.
i dont know what else to try. The way i see it, jump with two bloodsword is the best way to go as i can avoid some attacks and heal at the same time as attacking. but in order to survive, i have to be able to match his speed so i can heal after every attack i receive. Winged shoes arent enough (although the haste they grant cant be dispelled so i cant change this relic for anything else) if i could increase my speed i could probabley survive long enough to be turned into a zombie by grand cross :S
im almost ready to give up, i only have a couple of strats left in mind. unless of course im missing something. is there another way to survive whiteball perhaps?
anyway all i have left to try is to kill x-death before he uses whiteball, which seems unlikley as he likes his whiteball attack.
i can get in at least two attacks at the start of the battle before x-death makes a move so i could use one of two methods. Redx2>Holy>Quick>Holy>Holy>Mime (ie Holy twice more) which with the sage staff is very good damage and with winged shoes i can pull off twice. Ten Holy spells wouldnt be quite enough but if i survive his next attack i can use an elixer to restore my MP and fire out hopefully enough Holy spells to kill him.
otherwise i can cast quick and use sshot twice while holding ragnarok and braveblade which again i can do twice which results in 32 physical attacks before x-death can attack. again if this isnt enough, x-deaths first attack may only be a physical anyway.
if i go with magic i will have to worry about restoring MP every 2-3 turns and if i go with physical, sshot/x-fight will be useless against neo x-death. i will try my new strategies possible friday if i get time
First, i had no choice but to equip a bare handed fighter. Thats because they can equip ribbons and bonemail which was the only way i could survive whiteball. Its impossible to kill x-death before he uses it
This means i had to find ways of healing an undead character. I learned that whitewind will heal an undead character. Casting fire magic on a character wearing a fire ring will cure them. And attacking with bloodswords heals the undead so an undead character holding a bloodsword would indeed be healed by the given damage.
So as one of my abilities i was going to need black magic, blue magic or aim so i could heal my character as i undoubtedly would need to.
First i attempted holding two bloodswords and using aim. This way i could attack and heal in the same turn. I added white magic so i could cast protes, shell, image and reflect on my character. This was very easy to begin with because x-death used only physical attacks for the first 15 turns which i guess is something he does if only one character is alive. he occasionally used whiteball but it failed everyturn. when he got to low health, he used meteo and holy too, Holy was espeacially effective against my undead character but just by attacking i healed the damage. i only had 3714HP so would heal to max after every hit. However when he transformed to neo x-death the stuation changed more drastically then i imagined. With x-death i was actually getting up to four attacks per turn thanks to my winged shoes. Neo x-death's speed rose so sharply that he was attacking twice for every attack i was given. Just by attacking i was healing the damage i received but a simple dispel made sure i didnt survive his following attacks. fail
Next i changed my abilities for JUMP and BLUE. so basically i could put gaurdian up for a fast defense if he dispelled me, and by jumping i would be missing alot of his attacks. My attack power with my bloodswords didnt increase with jump like i had hoped but it was more effective than aim as jump attacks also never miss, so my bloodswords would both hit every time after a jump attack. i was wiped out however when i got turned into a zombie by his grand cross attack. Ribbons do not protect from zombie
I also tried adding to the above strategies DRINK and THROW. drink enabled me to double my maximum HP but didnt prove very effective because my bloodswords couldnt heal that much HP in a turn, and i sacraficed BLUE/WHITE magic which means no preotective magic, so the extra HP useless because without my protective magic he was inflicting more damage, of which i couldnt heal. THROW was an attempt to cause huge damage faster. by throwing weapons i no longer needed, i could inflict 9999HP a turn. Ragnarok, Braveblade, Excalibur, Excalipur and Strato all flew out for inflicted fast damage and then magishurikens would hit for over 8000HP when my weapons ran out. This started off great but again i had no protective magic and less hp so although i hung in there, i would not have lasted the duration of the battle
This means i needed white magic for putting up my defense at the beginning which is easy against x-deaths physical attacks, then equiping the genji shield and defender blade to up my defense and evade. whitewind for healing. gaurdian for a quick defense when hit by dispel. and holy for attacking. This is pretty much what id been forced to use from what i learned from my other attempts. But when neo x-death appears i spend every turn using whitewind which very quickly becomes less and less effective until i die.
i dont know what else to try. The way i see it, jump with two bloodsword is the best way to go as i can avoid some attacks and heal at the same time as attacking. but in order to survive, i have to be able to match his speed so i can heal after every attack i receive. Winged shoes arent enough (although the haste they grant cant be dispelled so i cant change this relic for anything else) if i could increase my speed i could probabley survive long enough to be turned into a zombie by grand cross :S
im almost ready to give up, i only have a couple of strats left in mind. unless of course im missing something. is there another way to survive whiteball perhaps?
anyway all i have left to try is to kill x-death before he uses whiteball, which seems unlikley as he likes his whiteball attack.
i can get in at least two attacks at the start of the battle before x-death makes a move so i could use one of two methods. Redx2>Holy>Quick>Holy>Holy>Mime (ie Holy twice more) which with the sage staff is very good damage and with winged shoes i can pull off twice. Ten Holy spells wouldnt be quite enough but if i survive his next attack i can use an elixer to restore my MP and fire out hopefully enough Holy spells to kill him.
otherwise i can cast quick and use sshot twice while holding ragnarok and braveblade which again i can do twice which results in 32 physical attacks before x-death can attack. again if this isnt enough, x-deaths first attack may only be a physical anyway.
if i go with magic i will have to worry about restoring MP every 2-3 turns and if i go with physical, sshot/x-fight will be useless against neo x-death. i will try my new strategies possible friday if i get time