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Kirobaito
12-23-2005, 03:25 AM
Do you believe in Santa Claus?

With the aid of computers and the internet, we have conducted a rigorous statistical investigation into the question Santa's existence.

Be forewarned: you may not like our conclusions.

We begin our investigation by assuming that Santa Claus really does exist.

Now, if you've learned anything about human nature, you know it's highly unlikely that a normal man would choose, for no particular reason, to devote his life to making toys and delivering them to boys and girls the world over.

But this is an objective inquiry, and questions of motivation aren't relevant.

We want only to know whether such a man could accomplish his mission.

Santa's first obstacle is that no known species of reindeer can fly.

However, scientists estimate that out of the earth's roughly 2 million species of living organisms, 300,000 or so have yet to be classified.

So, even though most of these undiscovered species out of the slight possibility that a species of flying reindeer does, in fact, exist.

And that no one besides Santa has ever seen one.

A bigger obstacle for Santa is that there are over 2 billion children under the age of 18 in the world.

The good news is that he needs to deliver presents only to Christian children, of whom there are approximately 378 million.

Let's assume that 15% of these Christian children have been bad and are thus - like Muslim, Hindu, Jewish and Buddhist children - ineligible for gift giving.

Still at an average rate of 3.5 children per household, Santa has a backbreaking 91.8 million homes to visit on any given Christmas Eve.

Fortunately, Santa has 31 hours of Christmas Eve darkness to visit all these homes if he travels from east to west, thanks to the rotation of the earth.

Unfortunately, this still works out to 822.6 visits per second.

So, for each Christian household, Santa has just over a thousandth of a second to land, hop out his sleigh, jump down the chimney, fill the stockings, distribute the rest of the presents around the tree, eat whatever snacks have been left out, get back up the chimney, climb back into his sleigh, and fly to the next house.

How fast in Santa moving?

Assuming all 91.8 million stops are spread evenly over the earth's landmass, Santa must travel 0.79 miles per household - a total trip of 72,522,000 miles.

This is a conservative estimate.

It doesn't include trips across oceans and feeding stops for the reindeer, etc.

Given the 31 hour time period, Santa's sleigh must maintain an average speed of 650 miles per second, or more than 3,000 times the speed of sound.

To give you an idea of how fast that is, the fastest man-made vehicle ever built, the Ulysses space probe, travels at a relatively pokey pace of 27.4 miles per second.

Conventional, landbound reindeer travel at a top speed of 15 miles per hour.

But let's just assume that Santa's flying reindeer are somehow able to reach hypersonic speeds - thanks, say, to the magic of Christmas giving.

Let's take a closer look at Santa's vehicle.

First of all, assuming a cheapo 2 pounds of presents per child, that's like one crummy Lego set, the sleigh must still be able to carry a load of 321,300 tons - plus Santa, an overweight man.

On land, a reindeer can't pull more than 300 pounds of freight, and even assuming that flying reindeer could pull ten times that amount, Santa's massive sleigh has to be drawn by 214,200 beasts.

They increase the weight of the overall Santa payload to 353,430 tons (not including the weight of the sleigh itself).

This is more than four times the weight of the Queen Elizabeth ocean liner.

Imagine: Santa skimming over rooftops in a gargantuan hypersonic aircraft with even less maneuverability than a Big Wheel.

Here's where things get fun.

Three hundred fifty-three thousand tons of air resistance - especially at 650 miles per second.

This air resistance will heat the reindeer in the same way that spaceships are heated up when they re-enter the earth's atmosphere. According to our calculations, the lead pair of reindeer will absorb 14.3 quintillion joules of energy per second each.

This means they will burst into spectacular, multicoloured flames almost instantaneously, exposing the reindeer behind them.

As Santa continues on his mission - leaving defining sonic booms in his wake-charred reindeer will constantly be sloughed off.

All 214,200 reindeer will be dead within 4.26 thousandths of a second. As for Santa, he will be subjected to centrifugal forces 17,500.06 times greater than gravity.

A 250 pound Santa would be pinned to the back of his sleigh by 4,375,015 pounds of force (after we deduct his weight).

This force will kill Santa instantly, crushing his bones, pulverizing his flesh, turning him into pink goop.

In other words, if Santa tries to deliver presents on Christmas Eve to every qualified boy and girl on the face of the earth, he will be liquefied.

Even if he exists, he's already dead.

So, where DO the presents come from?

Weirdly kinhearted intruders?

Stupid robbers?

Magic?

We won't insult your intelligence with the answer.

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Discuss.

Psychotic
12-23-2005, 03:29 AM
Instead of doing something productive with our superior craniums, we decided to state the obvious in a long-winded and pointless manner.

Azure Chrysanthemum
12-23-2005, 03:32 AM
Bags of holding, dimensional doors, and clone spells, yo!

rubah
12-23-2005, 04:01 AM
haha you and your physics haet:|

Chibi Youkai
12-23-2005, 04:03 AM
...Maybe this is why I'm so bad at physics.

Shlup
12-23-2005, 05:13 AM
SANTA EXISTS BECAUSE I FUCKING SAY SO GODDAMN NAZI BASTARDS.

CloudDragon
12-23-2005, 05:15 AM
So who's trying to disprove my existence?

KB, I'm putting you on the naughty list.

Mittopotahis
12-23-2005, 05:21 AM
Hahahaha, thats funny. :D

nik0tine
12-23-2005, 05:25 AM
Dude, haven't you like, heard of the theory of relativity?

Dolentrean
12-23-2005, 05:26 AM
give me a day, I have a counter to this. using quantum physics I can save Santa! *digs into his backpack* Dont worry! Chirstmas shall go on!

EDIT: Here it is! SANTA LIVES! I have saved Christmas!

Quantum Mechanics Saves Santa

The analysis about the impossibility of Santa Clause, based on classical physics, is seriously flawed owing to its neglect of quantum phenomena that become significant in his particular case. As it happens, the terminal velocity of a reindeer in dry December air over the northern hemisphere (for example) is known with tremendous precision. The mass of Santa and his sleigh (since the number of children and their gifts is also known precisely, ahead of time, and the reindeer must weigh in minutes before the flight) is also known with tremendous Precision. His direction of flight is, as you say, essentially to the west.

All of that, when taken together means that the momentum vector of Mr. Claus and his cargo is known with incredible precision. An elementary application of Heisenberg’s uncertainty principle yields the result that Santa’s location, at any given moment on Christmas eve, is highly imprecise. In other words, he is “smeared out” over the surface of the earth; analogous to the manner in which an electron is “smeared out” within a certain distance from the nucleus in an atom. Thus he can, quite literally, be everywhere at any given moment.

In addition, the relativistic velocities, which his reindeer can attain for brief moments, make it possible for him, in certain cases; to arrive at some locations shortly before he left the north pole. Santa, in other words, assumes for brief periods of time the characteristics of tachyons. I will admit that tachyons remain hypothetical, but then so do black holes, and who really doubts there existence anymore?

Randgris
12-23-2005, 06:15 AM
Santa is DEAD already. The Santa Claus that lives in the North Pole is a fake. Give me a day to post that news OK?


Edited: Need more time to write it in English. The news is in our language...

War Angel
12-23-2005, 10:33 AM
Dude, he gets help from the GOVERNMENT. Everything is possible when you get help from the GOVERNMENT. He taps phones, listening, hoping to hear what kids want for Christmas. He deploys satellites, to find out where those kids are located, what their house looks like, and what the easiest way to infiltrate them would be. He uses special agents to spy on naughty kids, and plans and executes extraordinary assassinations using explosive rein-deer.

Oh, and he's got help from God Almighty, Head of the Department of All Existence. Nobody cares for that, though.

Old Manus
12-23-2005, 11:45 AM
http://www.thehopstop.co.uk/upload_files/1091624929545l.jpg

Santa uses the powers of the dagger to turn back the sands of time every time he makes a visit so he can make it around the world easy. But he must watch out for the sand monsters and the evil vizier who always comes back from the dead to kill his asian wife

Lost Number
12-23-2005, 01:12 PM
SInce it is possible for matter to be spontaneously created out of nothing(insanly rarely), Santa has simply found a way to manipulate this and create spontaneous presents in childrens homes. Once a year. When a single atom would occur only once in 10 to the power of 16 years. Thats 100000000000000000 years for a single atom.

The Jamie Star Scenario
12-23-2005, 01:15 PM
Santa does exist you fool! NORAD tracks him every Christmas!

NORAD Tracks Santa (http://www.noradsanta.org/en/default.php)

Rainecloud
12-23-2005, 01:16 PM
Aha. I posted this about three years ago. :)


This air resistance will heat the reindeer in the same way that spaceships are heated up when they re-enter the earth's atmosphere. According to our calculations, the lead pair of reindeer will absorb 14.3 quintillion joules of energy per second each.

This means they will burst into spectacular, multicoloured flames almost instantaneously, exposing the reindeer behind them.

:thumb:

The Jamie Star Scenario
12-23-2005, 01:19 PM
This air resistance will heat the reindeer in the same way that spaceships are heated up when they re-enter the earth's atmosphere. According to our calculations, the lead pair of reindeer will absorb 14.3 quintillion joules of energy per second each.

This means they will burst into spectacular, multicoloured flames almost instantaneously, exposing the reindeer behind them.Raindeer aren't made by NASA so usually they don't blow up.

Meat Puppet
12-23-2005, 01:27 PM
santa is everywhere at once, being God and all.

Dolentrean
12-23-2005, 05:43 PM
no he dosent have to be god to be everywere, its quantum mechanics. yup, Santas existance is logicly sound...

-N-
12-23-2005, 06:21 PM
Santa does exist you fool! NORAD tracks him every Christmas!

NORAD Tracks Santa (http://www.noradsanta.org/en/default.php)Dude that site is sweet.

Loony BoB
12-23-2005, 06:45 PM
Santa actually fires out shells (sleighs) from his M1820 Reindeers, which is of similar shape to a Howitzer. Capable of firing a shot to any precise chimney anywhere in the world, the Reindeer's sleighs are designed to dissolve instantly just splitseconds after landing. His Elves take care of the list, which he merely checks once (not twice, subject to belief) by taking random samples from the list and personally investigating.

Santa did, however, originally do things using the traditional reindeer and sleigh (on ground) however as demand increased he had to employ assistants (the pre-mentioned Elves as well as the United States Postal Service Pro Cycling Team, who, along with other contracted associates throughout the globe, deal to any area not reachable by the M1820 Reindeer's sleighs.

Hawkeye
12-23-2005, 06:58 PM
You'll never know, because I just killed Santa guys. He's on my living room floor right now.

True story

radyk05
12-23-2005, 07:04 PM
Dude, haven't you like, heard of the theory of relativity?
that and santa obviously has a worm-hole-generator devise.