Have you learned a song recently through an online tablature?

[Zell's Fists of Fury]

If you are, then you are a thief and must be fined and <a href=http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/4508158.stm>jailed</a>.

Please join my anger and mourn the loss of mxtabs.com plz.
Fucking MPA

[Azure Chrysanthemum]

How long until they shut this popular site (http://www.nobuouematsu.com/main.html) down, I wonder.

[Kirobaito]

Oh crap. There goes what I spend most of the day doing.

EDIT: But there's no way in hell they find the site I go to for my John Denver tabs, because I'm pretty sure I'm probably the only one that ever goes there.

[Markus. D]

*uninstalls limewire*


edit: Lawl....

[Suikojowy]

www.ultimate-guitar.com is still going. I hope they don't take down the tabs sect

[Pure Strife]

They shut down MX tabs? That's bloody ridiculous. I'll cry if UG goes, it's good for news and everything. I wouldn't be half the guitarist I am without those sites.

Stopping illegal music downloads I understand, cause that's the artists themselves getting screwed. But now it's just greedy tab companies that are finding themselves out done by a free service, tis annoying. Still, illegal MP3 downloading is doing as well as ever, so no doubt people will forget about it eventually and we'll get our tabs back.

[Epiphany]

This depresses me really. MXTabs was the only tab site where I could get majority of the bands I listen to's tabs. Yay. ;D

Also, if the tab ban isn't lifted it really puts a hinder on a lot of new guitarists. I learned to tab from reading tabs. They lead by example and if they're not around to learn from, it's going to be seriously harder for self-taught people to learn. ;/

[Madame Adequate]

Nevermind tabs, are they seriously talking about taking lyrics down? Now tabs, I can vaguely understand - you have to actually buy books most of the time - but lyrics? Come on, retards. It's not like it'd be easy to pass off any but the most obscure band's lyrics as your own, and those bands aren't going to have representation by these big companies anyway.

[Rye]

If they take lyrics down, I'll cry like an emo kid being shoved into a locker. ;__;

[Dr.K]

That sucks big time. As long as UG doesn't go down the world will keep spinning though.

[crashNUMBERS]

Aww fuck!! Don't go X-guitar, don't go!! Right before I'm going to get my guitar strings fixed, too!!

http://www.xguitar.com/

That site kicked so much ass..

[Winter Nights]

That's just retardedly dumb. Not every band has Tabs books.. And to ban posting lyrics on the web is even worse. What the hell could possibly be the mentality here? "If they can play the music themselves, they won't want to buy the real thing!!" That's just farking stupid.

[crashNUMBERS]

I didn't read the whole article, and I skimmed through most of it but did they actually say that?? I would only read music tabs of songs that I have heard...

[Mitch]

use your ears

[crashNUMBERS]

If they take lyrics down, I'll cry like an emo kid being shoved into a locker. ;__;
Yeah but the older you are the better you can hear lyrics. But then again there really is no reason to take down lyrical sites...

[nik0tine]

This is fucking ridiculous. It's like the music industry is waging a war against musicians. They can place bans all they want, but it is up to us, the musicians, to make one thing very clear: We will not comply.

[Venom]

Thats how I know most songs.:(

By most Im talking about 80% of what I know is from tabs.

[crashNUMBERS]

Thats how I know most songs.:(

By most Im talking about 80% of what I know is from tabs.
Yeah. What about the guitar n00bs like us. Well, like me, that haven't taken lessons yet so at the moment need to learn by ourselves??

[a nirvana fan]

I ALWAYS learn songs from the internet...and....?:choc2:

[Cz]

This is absolutely sodding ridiculous. :mad2:

[Venom]

use your ears

You can play by ear as well?

[crashNUMBERS]

No you'll get arrested..

[Kirobaito]

It's worth saying that it's not illegal to look up tabs and lyrics; it's simply illegal to offer them. So there's no issue with us trying to find them. The MPA will get tired of this after awhile and give up.

[crashNUMBERS]

It's worth saying that it's not illegal to look up tabs and lyrics; it's simply illegal to offer them. So there's no issue with us trying to find them. The MPA will get tired of this after awhile and give up.
They better! >=(

[Zell's Fists of Fury]

It's worth saying that it's not illegal to look up tabs and lyrics; it's simply illegal to offer them. So there's no issue with us trying to find them. The MPA will get tired of this after awhile and give up.
Like the war on MP3s?

[Kirobaito]

Like the war on MP3s?
The whole mp3 thing really does take money from the artists, though. :p

[a nirvana fan]

I don't see why people care so much, who cares?

[Suikojowy]

Less people seem to buy sheet music because of tab sites.

Obviously the sheet music people aren't too happy about that (neither are the musicians that get a certain amount of money from the sales) so they're trying to take them down.

*shrug* Oh well. There'll still be ways around it so don't worry about it too much ;)

[nik0tine]

I don't see why people care so much, who cares?You obviously aren't a musician.

I do not understand how this is illegal, though. Most tabbers actually use thier ears to tab out a song. They don't copy them straight from tablature books. They listen, and copy what they hear. I fail to see how there could be any legal issues whatsoever. If I learned a song, by ear, from a music CD and then taught it to a friend, would that also be illegal? Because it's the exact same fucking thing.


The whole mp3 thing really does take money from the artists, though.Yeah, like the one hit wonders. Most musicians however make their money from concert revenue. In fact, I know for absolute certain that the illegal distribution of MP3's has put money in the pockets of underground musicians. I would assume that almost all non mainstream musicians profit from p2p. I know that I would have never bought albums from , or attend the shows of, the artists that I listen to had I not had the ability to download thier music. The only people getting screwed are mainstram artists and major record labels, and I really couldn't care less about either of them.

[Slothy]

About the only good news in all of this is that drum tabs shouldn't be an issue, unless they suddenly change copyright laws so you can copyright a drumbeat, which will never happen (if it did, you could pretty much kiss drummers goodbye since bands would have to pay royalties for the simplest of grooves and fills, which show up even in the most complex music). Honestly, I doubt this will get very far, since most tabs I've seen aren't entirely accurate. It's more of a "this is how I play it" sort of thing. If tab sites do go down, record companies will damage themselves more than anything. Not only will the single handedly tick off a good chunk of the musicians out there, they'll be discouraging younger musicians from sticking with the instrument and learning songs by bands they like.

Not everyone can just learn by ear. Even with over six years behind a drumkit, bands like Tool, Rush, and Dream Theater still provide some stuff that I just can't figure out, so I go to tabs. If actual books of sheet music were available for these and other bands I like, I'd gladly buy them because I know they're going to be accurate, and I find reading sheet music easier than reading tabs. The fact is, there often isn't an official version even with some more popular bands, so what is someone supposed to do?

My dad's talked about how when he was younger they'd turn down the speed on their record players to learn songs, but it's a little tough to do that these days, so show me a musician who's picked up their instrument in the last decade or more who hasn't used tabs.

[ffxatticus]

this is just plain fucked up...soon theyre gonna get rid of anything musically related online

[nik0tine]

Why don't they just get rid of the fucking internet all together then?

Edit: Holy fucking <img src="/xxx.gif"><img src="/xxx.gif"><img src="/xxx.gif"><img src="/xxx.gif">. It looks like they shut down the power tab archive. What the fuck? Now I'm really fucking pissed!