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Miriel
01-08-2006, 10:45 AM
I cried. Twice.

What an amazingly beautiful and tragic movie. One of the best love stories I've seen in a long time. In fact, I'd say that it'd be on the short list of great American love stories ever told on film. Not that the film is perfect, it's not. And I can't even say that it was an enjoyable experience watching the movie. It wasn't enjoyable so much as it was powerful and poignant. After the credits started rolling, I sat there with my best friends, and wiped away my tears and wallowed in the sense of loss and helplessness that the movie left me with.

The thing about this movie is that I've never seen a love story like this before, but at the same time at it's core, it's similar to all forbidden love stories that have been told for decades. The main difference is that the love here feels more real. And I mean "real" in the sense that there aren't any grand declarations of love, no schmaltzy love-making, no dramatic double suicides. "I love you" is never uttered by the two lovers in this film. In fact, Jack and Ennis spend more time yelling profanities at each other than they do holding each other. But the love is always there. In the eyes, the look, the glance, the touch. Always under the surface, but you can still feel its presence.

I found the story of Ennis and Jack to be more tragic than Romeo and Juliet ever was.

Two loney cowboys in the 1960s who know they have found in each other the love of their lives, but who are absolutely at a loss as to how to deal with it. Nothing in their poor, uneducated lives had taught them that to be gay was ok. They're completely unprepared for this, and fear of societal punishment as well as fear of this "thing that grabs hold" of them dooms their relationship. They're victims of circumstance, and even if they wanted to, it would have taken more than they had inside of themselves to push their relationship to a point where they could truly have been happy.

I can't get over how amazing Heath Ledger was in this film. He was staggering, nothing short of staggering. I can name very few actors who could bring such intensity and passion to such a quiet and subtle role. He rivals Marlon Brando at his best, with this role. If the oscar should go to any other actor this year, it would be unjust.

There is one scene near the end of the film between Jack and Ennis which was phenomenal. You'll know it when you see it.

The thing I absolutely detested about watching the movie was the fact that 80% of the audience broke out into peals of laughter everytime Ennis and Jack kissed/hugged/said anything remotely tender. It got to the point where I had to turn around and "shush" people. I shushed a 40 year old woman. How messed up is that? The thing that grated me was that if it were a man and a woman, or even a woman and a woman who were taking off each other's clothes, who the hell would be laughing? Entirely inappropriate, immature, rude, and it seriously diminished my enjoyment of the film.

The movie is slow, subtle, and character driven so don't expect any grand gestures of love, or action packed sequences. But it's beautiful, and I recommend it to anyone who wants to see a wonderfully made film with a brilliant cast and a touching story.

Brokeback Mountain should and probably will be the Best Picture winner of 2005. It's about time this story was told.

Markus. D
01-08-2006, 10:58 AM
reviewers gave it a five/five.

dont think I'd have the guts to see it.

its a me thing.

...

BatChao
01-08-2006, 11:18 AM
I didn't really like this movie... I REALLY wanted to like it, but I couldn't... it's got to be the slowest movie ever made! And no, I wasn't expecting crazy action or anything like that. If the whole homosexual thing was taken out, this movie would be a VERY generic love story. I thought the first scenes on Brokeback, where they developed the bond, were okay, but after that... the movie not only slows to a crawl, but also just repeats the same scenes over and over again. Jack with his family. Ennis with his family. Jack and Ennis on Brokeback. Repeat again... and again... and again. Whenever they're together, they say the same things, argue about the same things, etc, etc. It got really old, really fast. I found myself not even caring about their relationship together. The only thing I was looking forward to in the movie was seeing their looks change as they aged... everything else was way too boring. And what's up with that opening?! Standing around for like 15 minutes, doing/saying nothing? That's ridiculous. I think this movie is highly overrated. People say it's not because it's about gay men, but I'm pretty sure it is. Like I said, remove the gay factor and this movie will fall flat on its face. There was no reason to make it so damn long and slow... the short story is only like...40 pages or something. How do you make that into a 2+ hour movie?!

Performances were good, though... but I also think Heath Ledger is overrated in this movie. He was good... but not THAT good. And he kept talking like he had a wad of gum in his cheek... that was wierd.

All in all... I didn't enjoy this movie... I didn't really care about the relationship between the two main characters, which was kinda the point of the movie. The pacing is way too slow, and it gets really repetitive. Bleh... Makes me sad since the buzz around this movie was so huge... I was SURE it was gonna be good.

Miriel
01-08-2006, 11:40 AM
But the fact that they're gay is the bulk of this movie. Take that away, and what would keep them apart?

The frustration that Jack felt was palpable, and my heart hurt for him because he knew what he wanted but he couldn't have it.

Plus, I thought Michelle Williams was astounding in this movie, so I liked watching the interaction between her and Ennis when the focus was taken off of the Jack/Ennis dynamic.

I would say that the pacing for this movie is along the same lines as Lost in Translation or Girl with a Pearl Earring. Both movies which I loved, and a lot of people hated for being slow and boring. I personally think that people are in way too much of a rush these days. A Japanese filmmaker, Yasujiro Ozu had what were his signature "pillow shots" that he used as transition between scenes. Moments of quiet and calm. A lingering shot of a tree. A couple beats of a character looking off into the distance. Those pillow shots sets a languid, natural tone to movies, and I think that's what Ang Lee wanted for Brokeback Mountain.

Also, yes Heath Ledger's performance was THAT good. I couldn't take my eyes off him. And the fact that he barely opens his mouth to talk is indicative of the life that he's led thus far. It's crucial that only with Jack is he able to spit out full sentences and say what he's thinking and feeling. Brilliant acting on his part. Even better than Brando in On the Waterfront, and that's sayin' something.

Ledger delved so deep into his character, that I find it almost unbelievable that he could have found his way back out again. And even then, I can't imagine that he was not a changed person for having embodied this character so fully and completely throughout those long weeks of production.

~SapphireStar~
01-08-2006, 01:54 PM
Still need to see this. I hope theres a cinema in Manchester that will show it because of the story and gay main characters.

Dreddz
01-08-2006, 01:55 PM
Im going to watch it next weekend, Looks pretty good from what I have seen.

Shadow The Red XIII Thing
01-08-2006, 04:08 PM
I will probably never watch it for three reasons
1 there gay and not in a comedic way.
2 My religion(christianity) wont allpw it.
3 Its a love story about gay cowboys.
*shivers in corner*
but be assured Lord Xehanhort will probably see it.

Rusty
01-08-2006, 05:12 PM
I'm really interested in seeing it. I have no idea how I'll feel watching the movie. But I like Heath Ledger as an actor, and this sort of movie doesn't come out very often.

Giga Guess
01-08-2006, 05:15 PM
If that movie lasted any longer, I woulda been a wreck. Just a blubbering mess. It got to me though, here in Redneck Alberta how diverse the crowd was. Blue-hairs, young couples, gay, straight....it was quite amazing. And during Jack's remarks (I guess that's an appropriate term...O_O) to his father-ion-law....it got applause from pretty much the entire audience. I was expecting mockery of the love scenes, but no, there wasn't any here.

~SapphireStar~
01-08-2006, 06:44 PM
2 My religion(christianity) wont allpw it.
So am I, but I dont follow it step-by-step. Its a movie, God isnt going to send you to Hell for seeing it. He may send you for being negative about gays though ...

Germ Hamee
01-09-2006, 01:05 AM
>.> I wanna see it so bad. I've been looking forward to it for a very long time, and I'm getting sick of seeing "Brokeback Mountain -- Coming Soon!" in the theater listings. Release it already!

Giga Guess
01-09-2006, 01:15 AM
It....is released...I mean I saw it all the way up here in Calgary, Alberta. Thusly it must be out pretty much everywhere else.

kikimm
01-09-2006, 01:31 AM
I really want to see this, but it isn't playing in a theater anywhere near me, which makes me upset. But even if there was a theater close, I still couldn't see it. No one else would take me, as no one else is interested, and I can't drive myself.

Itsunari 2000
01-09-2006, 06:02 PM
I think the title is very negative ... Brokeback Mountain ... I mean, whenever I see that movie advertised , or hear people mention I envision this horrific tragedy. It puts me off.

Germ Hamee
01-09-2006, 07:23 PM
I think the title is very negative ... Brokeback Mountain ... I mean, whenever I see that movie advertised , or hear people mention I envision this horrific tragedy. It puts me off.

>.> All I can think of when I read the title is how easy it would be to change it into a porn title.

Tanwen Strife
01-09-2006, 07:42 PM
does anyone know when this comes out in england? I'd like to see it, but can't find a release date

DarkLadyNyara
01-09-2006, 09:07 PM
Wanna see it, but not in a theater. Idiots piss me off.

Giga Guess
01-09-2006, 10:34 PM
>.> All I can think of when I read the title is how easy it would be to change it into a porn title.


Aheheheheh....i think it already has. :laughing: