Anonymous flaming now illegal in Unites States [Archive]

eestlinc

01-09-2006, 06:20 PM

http://news.com.com/Create+an+e-annoyance%2C+go+to+jail/2010-1028_3-6022491.html?part=rss&tag=6022491&subj=news

President Bush just signed a bill making it illegal to "post annoying Web messages or send annoying e-mail messages without disclosing your true identity."

It was part of a bill concerning stalking and harrassment, so I guess it sorta kinda makes sense in that context maybe, but the law sounds to ridiculously vague that we could use it to try and prosecute members who flame anonymously!

Lindy

01-09-2006, 06:21 PM

Damnit, you're already holding me back enough, now you have the law on your side?!

Old Manus

01-09-2006, 06:22 PM

I want to sue pm spammers now plz

eestlinc

01-09-2006, 06:23 PM

move to the US and realize your dreams!

SammieBabe

01-09-2006, 06:23 PM

It's nice to know that this is at the top of our nation's priorites....:rolleyes2

Zell's Fists of Fury

01-09-2006, 06:26 PM

It sounds nice, but I don't think it'll ever work effectively. How the hell are you supposed to enforce that? "Joe Smitty, you are under arrest for not logging in on LJ and calling someone a poophead :mad2:"

Loony BoB

01-09-2006, 06:26 PM

Provided it's used sensibly, this could be a wonderful thing. But using it sensibly might be a bit much for certain Americans.

Lindy

01-09-2006, 06:27 PM

Spiff, you totally suck.

AHAHAHA, YOU DON'T KNOW WHO I AM AND I AM BURNING YOU.

ZING! SUPER ZING!

...I'm done.

edczxcvbnm

01-09-2006, 06:32 PM

PHEW! I am safe. There is no way that law would ever hold up in any court as annoying is a personal thing and can't really be defined.

In the end I think this is fake anyways.

Zell's Fists of Fury

01-09-2006, 06:41 PM

Lindy, I think it'd be fair to know that I have alerted the Fed as to your illegal activities. They will be in your presence to speak with you shortly.

Lindy

01-09-2006, 06:42 PM

The Fed? Only one?

Miriel

01-09-2006, 06:45 PM

It's The Fed. You only need one.

And this is stupid. Really really stupid.

Lindy

01-09-2006, 06:48 PM

I think you'll find you need more than one to deal with me.

Zell's Fists of Fury

01-09-2006, 06:49 PM

Yeah, the Fed. He's like a FBI Superhero. Flying around on his briefcase solving crimes that usually involve drug smuggling and people insulting eachother on the interweb.

Lindy

01-09-2006, 06:50 PM

But not the intertron?

eestlinc

01-09-2006, 06:50 PM

I find you disapproval annoying, Miriel. If that really is your name...

Lindy

01-09-2006, 06:53 PM

Working backwards, if anonymous flaming is illegal, then if we fully disclose our details, can we flame people as much as we want?

edczxcvbnm

01-09-2006, 06:59 PM

F.B.I.?!?!? What is this FBI and what are the warning me about?!? Computer, give me all the information you have on the F.B.I.

Computer: The FBI is a government law enforcement agency.

Continue.

Computer: Insufficient data.

"Insufficient data"? Can't you just make an educated guess?

Computer: O... kay... Um, founded in 1492 by, uh... demons, the FBI is a crack law enforcement agency designed to... uh, I dunno, fight... aliens?

I KNEW IT!

Soul of Tarsis

01-09-2006, 07:01 PM

Thank God I don't live in the US then...

ScottNUMBERS

01-09-2006, 07:08 PM

I better take advantage of the fact that it's not a law here.

Zell's Fists of Fury

01-09-2006, 07:10 PM

Soul of Tarsis I find you remark abnout my country to be annoying. Give me all of your personal information including bank account and PIN numbers so that I can verify your identity or I well call the Fed on you. He's international, you know, so watch your step, mister.

EDIT: You too ScottNUMBERS.

Miriel

01-09-2006, 07:14 PM

Yeah, the Fed. He's like a FBI Superhero. Flying around on his briefcase solving crimes that usually involve drug smuggling and people insulting eachother on the interweb.
FBI? Oh. I thought you were sending K-Fed to sing to Lindy and force him into submission with his painful lyricism.

DMKA

01-09-2006, 07:15 PM

Internet: Serious Business.

Lindy

01-09-2006, 07:35 PM

FBI? Oh. I thought you were sending K-Fed to sing to Lindy and force him into submission with his painful lyricism.
God, after hearing PopoZao, I'd take jail any day thanks.

Hawkeye

01-09-2006, 07:48 PM

President Bush is retarded.

Whoops, didn't see that one comming.

Rye

01-09-2006, 07:49 PM

That would never work. xD

LJ user 1: UR GHEY ND UR A SLUT! LOLOLOL
LJ user 2: OMG IM CALL COPS BECUZ U STRATED E-DRAMA!111

Psychotic

01-09-2006, 07:55 PM

Bush is obviously fed up of all the pseudo-intellectual liberals constantly bitching about him in their blogs.

Lindy

01-09-2006, 07:56 PM

That would never work. xD

LJ user 1: UR GHEY ND UR A SLUT! LOLOLOL
LJ user 2: OMG IM CALL COPS BECUZ U STRATED E-DRAMA!111

So 99% of Livejournal users would be in jail then?

Dreddz

01-09-2006, 07:57 PM

eestlinc

01-09-2006, 07:58 PM

well, the Senate is the bunch of geniuses that wrote that specific part of the law.

ScottNUMBERS

01-09-2006, 08:06 PM

Give me all of your personal information including bank account and PIN numbers so that I can verify your identity or I well call the Fed on you.
Sure.

KentaRawr!

01-09-2006, 08:13 PM

Looks like Bush recieved my spam e-mail. :p

DarkLadyNyara

01-09-2006, 08:24 PM

*sigh* Ladies and gentlemen, our government at work. This country depresses me.

Rye

01-09-2006, 08:32 PM

So 99% of Livejournal users would be in jail then?

Which is exactly why the law would never work. xD

Agent Proto

01-09-2006, 08:50 PM

Bush is obviously fed up of all the pseudo-intellectual liberals constantly bitching about him in their blogs.

He could sue them all simply because he finds their bithing about him annoying. :D

Anonymous Democrat: smurf BUSH!
Bush: You're annoying me, I'll have you arrested under this new bill I just signed into law. Ha! What now bitch?!

NeoCracker

01-09-2006, 08:51 PM

I have never had such a powerful urge to start sending random hate e-mails to hundreds of random people in my entire life. Until now i never even had the urge. WHat should be in my hate letters?

DarkLadyNyara

01-09-2006, 09:10 PM

I have never had such a powerful urge to start sending random hate e-mails to hundreds of random people in my entire life.
Tell me about it. :mad: What is it about legislative stupidity that brings out my worst impulses?

Raistlin

01-09-2006, 09:42 PM

...wow. Just...wow.

So when's the Sedition Act coming?

theundeadhero

01-09-2006, 09:51 PM

Forget the Fed. You screw up and I'm gonna send FedEx after you. They can find anybody.

Doomie

01-09-2006, 09:52 PM

It's great that Bush is now focused on something important for a change. I bet he got those "GETA10INCH" e-mails too.

Orestes

01-09-2006, 10:02 PM

So I guess I won't be having any more terrorists spamming my inbox. Damn.

KentaRawr!

01-09-2006, 10:07 PM

Well, if we just tell each other who we are before we spam, we'll be fine.

Hi. My name's Nico. omglol ur m0m is cute.

Del Murder

01-10-2006, 03:00 AM

Eh, I don't really see anything coming from it. Probably meant to stop spam emailers more than anything.

escobert

01-10-2006, 03:05 AM

Damn, I'm going to get arrested tomorrow I was being me to everyone in chat today :D

KentaRawr!

01-10-2006, 03:28 AM

This isn't going to stop much spam.

"I'm Christie, I am 25 and I want to date. My phone number is ######## and my adress iss ######. E-Mail me back and we might arrange something..."

This is what we're all going to see in our inboxes. >_>

Winter Nights

01-10-2006, 03:34 AM

Meh.. Like anyone would even care to keep tabs on this stuff.

Rengori

01-10-2006, 04:03 AM

Coincidentally this goes against the first ammendment.

DMKA

01-10-2006, 07:20 AM

Good thing I have my full name on my profile so none of my flamming will be done anonymously.

Yamaneko

01-10-2006, 07:34 AM

Coincidentally this goes against the first ammendment.
Libel isn't, however, and coincidentally most "flaming" constitutes defamation of character. If at all any offenders happened to be prosecuted under this, it would seriously be a waste of tax-payers' money and judicial services. While crimes regarding stalking, child pornography, and child solicitation via online means should still be sought after and punished, going after a 12 year old who likes to shoot his mouth off while playing a match of Counter Strike would be stupid.

Markus. D

01-10-2006, 07:38 AM

ummm... free moneyz plz kthnx?

wow, this powerful, im going to have to watch what I say from now on.

but... the money they wasted on it could have gone to all the poor people in america yes?

now hes going to make it conpulsary (spelt right?) to spell america with a capital A, anyone caught not abiding gets a life sentance.

Shaun

01-10-2006, 12:15 PM

Whoo-hoo. I'm English so I can flame all the annoying Americans I want!

...You don't know who I am!

The Jamie Star Scenario

01-10-2006, 12:22 PM

You're all cocks!
Arrest me if you can!

Raistlin

01-10-2006, 06:37 PM

Libel isn't, however, and coincidentally most "flaming" constitutes defamation of character. If at all any offenders happened to be prosecuted under this, it would seriously be a waste of tax-payers' money and judicial services. While crimes regarding stalking, child pornography, and child solicitation via online means should still be sought after and punished, going after a 12 year old who likes to shoot his mouth off while playing a match of Counter Strike would be stupid.
Libel is already illegal, so why bother with this?

Libel is also only for talking to OTHER people about someone. Name-calling ("flaming") to a person is not libel. Now, if I sent an email to everybody at a persons' workplace spreading nasty rumors about said person, that could constitute libel.

Yamaneko

01-10-2006, 07:12 PM

Libel is already illegal, so why bother with this?
That's what I meant.

Libel is also only for talking to OTHER people about someone. Name-calling ("flaming") to a person is not libel. Now, if I sent an email to everybody at a persons' workplace spreading nasty rumors about said person, that could constitute libel.
If it's out in public to see by everyone (like at a MB) isn't that libel?

Raistlin

01-10-2006, 07:16 PM

If it's out in public to see by everyone (like at a MB) isn't that libel?
I guess, though not at an MB like here where everyone's (mostly) anonymous. I don't think defamation of e-character is a crime.

marc

01-10-2006, 09:08 PM

It's great that Bush is now focused on something important for a change. I bet he got those "GETA10INCH" e-mails too.

I never got one of those.
Like all my friends did apart from me, and that really annoyed me.
:shoot:

DarkLadyNyara

01-10-2006, 09:13 PM

I get sooooo much pornographic spam. It was kinda funny at first, but now it's just annoying.

Rengori

01-10-2006, 10:28 PM

Libel isn't, however, and coincidentally most "flaming" constitutes defamation of character. If at all any offenders happened to be prosecuted under this, it would seriously be a waste of tax-payers' money and judicial services. While crimes regarding stalking, child pornography, and child solicitation via online means should still be sought after and punished, going after a 12 year old who likes to shoot his mouth off while playing a match of Counter Strike would be stupid.
Good argument. At any rate, how would they know who to prosecute if you're annonmous?

Tifa's Real Lover(really

01-11-2006, 12:19 AM

wow this is gay

DocFrance

01-13-2006, 03:17 PM

Eh. This will probably be just one of those laws that isn't heavily enforced. Kind of like how oral sex is illegal in most states. How many times have you heard of someone being arrested for talking with bearded clams?

DMKA

01-13-2006, 08:04 PM

Wait, so now is online terrorism on the same level as live action terrorism? And is it still only if it's brown people, hence not being allowed to do it anonymously?

Lindy

01-13-2006, 08:05 PM

I love how saying "live action"makes it seem like Terrorism used to be a cartoon.

The Adventures of Osama Bin Laden and his Invisible Cat Friend Hugo.

I'd hit it.

DMKA

01-13-2006, 08:10 PM

I love how saying "live action"makes it seem like Terrorism used to be a cartoon.
You mean it didn't? :(

Peter_20

01-14-2006, 02:17 AM