Conspiracy! (Contains afew spoilers) (Quite long)

[MJN SEIFER]

Read threw this carefully.

Some time or another (Piror to FF6) Sabin will (Supposedly) be chosen to be his master Duncan’s successor.

Sabin will be told that Vargas (Duncan’s son) will be the successor – which would make more sense. However Vargas him self will be told differently, and believe it is Sabin who is “The chosen one”.

Vargas becomes angry as he though he was going to be the successor, and feels unwanted by his father.

This much is stated in the game.


After this the game states that Duncan is dead (Murdered by Vargas) only for him to return much later in the game.

Where has he been?


Think of this.

The returners led by Bannon will appear more frequently after Duncan’s “Death”.


Bannon is now more involved in his own army.

The returners know (through Bannon) that Sabin is the person they might need for the fight against the empire.

Locke and Edgar (The later is related to Sabin) are instructed to take Terra (Someone else the returners need) to the returners Hide out. But the way they pass a house. (I shall come to this later)

Vargas arranges to meet up with Sabin on MT Koltz to settle there differences. (Sabin Knows about Duncan’s “Death”).

At the house a man conveniently tells Locke’s team that Sabin will possibly be at Mt Koltz. Although he has no apparent reason too.

The team will find Vargas and will be defeated and then Sabin arrives.

Once Sabin has shown his strength Vargas escapes never to be seen again.

Sabin Joins the Returners as was planned all along by Vargas and Duncan.

After Kefka damages the world, All the official Returners except for Locke, Edgar, Sabin and Bannon will die.

The war between Bannon and Geshtahl is over and both Armies are almost completely destroyed.

There is no need for Bannon (Who doesn’t really exist) to be around anymore. So he vanishes giving the impression he died with the others.

Duncan now reveals he’s alive now that Bannon is “Dead”.

Do you see the conspiracy?

[boys from the dwarf]

cool. its good the way you peiced together the evidence but i dont think sqaresoft wanted it to be this way and just did it by accident without realizing and if they intended it to be like this your probly the first person apart from sqare to ever know about this, so well done. although the bits with banon seem a bit odd. are you basically assuming banon is duncan? but most of this theory make perfect sense and has good evidence to back it up so , good work.

[Crossblades]

Yeah good job. I always wondered why Banon and Duncan shared the same sprite

[Soul of Tarsis]

Lol, I never would have thought of that...

It's possible I guess.

[Upriser Spearmint!]

Hmmm nice theory there.

It would certainly would help me understand the game better.

[ljkkjlcm9]

when I first saw Duncan I thought it was Bannon, cause of the sprite. I don't think they are the same person though, you think they'd do that change the pallete thing twice to have someone hide being someone else? (Gerad Edgar thing)
Sorry but, unlike that time, no-one reacts to Duncan as if he was Bannon, so I don't think they're the same person.

THE JACKEL

[Prancing Mad]

Although it is interesting that they use the same colour scheme for duncan as they did for gerad

[boys from the dwarf]

Yeah good job. I always wondered why Banon and Duncan shared the same sprite
they do? i must have a bad memory. in that case although sqaer probly didnt intend this it has enough evidence to be perfectly true.

[abrojtm]

I am going to have to disagree with you. Edgar and Sabin, both of whom are trusted and valued members of your party are characteristically incapable to decieving you (Terra), it is just not in their scheme. Assuming that they did decieve you, however, why would Duncan possibly disguise himself as another is beyond me. There really isn't a good explanation for that.
Also, why would Duncan re-emerge as himself after the destruction of the world?
Why doesn't anyone recognize him as looking even remotely similiar to Banon when they meet him?

But why do the share the same sprite?
I think the answer for that is simple: Square wanted to depict an elderly man while still using a sprite that was somewhat unique and not just the boring old guy that you've already seen ten thousand times. http://www.videogamesprites.net/FinalFantasy6/NPCs/Other/Thamasa%20Mayor%20-%20Wave%20(Front).gif

[Avarice-ness]

http://www.videogamesprites.net/FinalFantasy6/Party/Banon/Banon%20-%20Wave%20(Front).gifBannon likes colors. =]
Where as...
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v684/Arailia/Duncan20-20Finger.gif Duncan does not. =[

[MJN SEIFER]

Edgar and Sabin, both of whom are trusted and valued members of your party are characteristically incapable to decieving you (Terra), it is just not in their scheme.

I never said that Edgar and Sabin were in on conspiracy, Acording to my theory, they were fooled too.

[Fire_Emblem776]

squallofseed were are you when we need you!

[abrojtm]

I never said that Edgar and Sabin were in on conspiracy, Acording to my theory, they were fooled too.

You honestly think that Sabin wouldn't recognize Banon as his disceased mentor?

Also, you didn't really answer any of my questions or answer to my arguments refuting your theory.

[NeoCracker]

You honestly think that Sabin wouldn't recognize Banon as his disceased mentor?

Also, you didn't really answer any of my questions or answer to my arguments refuting your theory.

You try crash landing after your airship crashed into the ground after a world altering power rush and remeber everything perfectly.

[ljkkjlcm9]

You try crash landing after your airship crashed into the ground after a world altering power rush and remeber everything perfectly.
before the world was destroyed they met Banon, after already thinking his mentor was dead, so he would have known if Banon was his mentor

THE JACKEL

[NeoCracker]

before the world was destroyed they met Banon, after already thinking his mentor was dead, so he would have known if Banon was his mentor

THE JACKAL
Sry, misread, Its time for more messed up logic.

After He set up the plan with Vargas he became so static he slipped into the Leet river and severly altered teh appereance of his face, thus plasitic sergery was able to make it normal again. And being the leader of the Returners greyed his hair. Look what the civil war did to linkin.

[MJN SEIFER]

Although this maybe wrong or right. I like it better than my first FF6 theory.

[KoShiatar]

http://www.videogamesprites.net/FinalFantasy6/Party/Banon/Banon%20-%20Wave%20(Front).gifBannon likes colors. =]
Where as...
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v684/Arailia/Duncan20-20Finger.gif Duncan does not. =[

Yep. But think about Edgar when you first find him under a false name in the World of Ruin, hasn't he got the same colors?

[Kawaii Ryûkishi]

Bannon uses the same palette as Gogo! They must be the same person!

[Avarice-ness]

Yep. But think about Edgar when you first find him under a false name in the World of Ruin, hasn't he got the same colors?
Yeah.. but if you look deeply into it...
Gerad is just Edgar mixed up, if Duncan and Bannon were the same person you would think they would Mix the letters up too.. like...

Bannon - Nonbano/Annbon. Yeaaaah.... I don't think that would have worked...

[SrBehemoth]

:moogle:i like this theory, even if its not true it still poses the question of whether bannon did die. and kawaii i have heard it specualated that bannon is gogo just based on the palette, it wud make sense to. altho that whole falling in the leet scenario was kinda funny, it is more likely that he wud be scared during the ruin of the world. thus needing the hood. also i have heard specualtion that during the destruction mebe bannon got amnesia, and thats y as gogo he can only mimic the moves of others ofter seeing them done.:moogle:

again this is just repeating other things that i have heard on similar subjects.

[boys from the dwarf]

Bannon uses the same palette as Gogo! They must be the same person!
gogo=banon with a helmet.

[KoShiatar]

Yeah.. but if you look deeply into it...
Gerad is just Edgar mixed up, if Duncan and Bannon were the same person you would think they would Mix the letters up too.. like...

Bannon - Nonbano/Annbon. Yeaaaah.... I don't think that would have worked...

I'm not completely sure, but I think the Edgar/Gerad thing is not true in the Japanese version. I still haven't gotten there though.

[Kawaii Ryûkishi]

Yeah, Gerad was Geoff in the Japanese version.