View Full Version : deciding a party...
LunaticPandora37
01-21-2006, 08:52 PM
right now i'm hunting kuja and i can't decided weather or not to use dagger or eiko for my healy person...and i'm thinking of using freya but i am also not sure of that...i need help deciding
TheSpoonyBard
01-21-2006, 09:04 PM
Dagger has more Eidolons, Eiko has more superior White Magic. Its your decision. Personally, I go with Zidane, Freya, Quina and Dagger. As soon as I reach Madain Sari I drop Dagger in favour of Amarant.
RaidenWeb17
01-21-2006, 09:59 PM
Yep Forest Owl has a very good party with Zidane, Freya, Quina, and Amarant, but sometimes I like to trade out Freya or Amarant with Vivi
LunaticPandora37
01-21-2006, 10:28 PM
any piticurally reason for freya...i've played the game3 times and never really used her so i dunno...
TheSpoonyBard
01-21-2006, 10:31 PM
Jump + High Jump
Dragon Crest (9,999 damage. Cannot be reduced)
Dragon's Breath
White Draw
Reis's Wind
I like her background, too.
sub zero
01-21-2006, 10:32 PM
i think a good party all the way though the game is Zidane (duh!) garnet eiko and vivi as few bosses are strong against magic.
TheSpoonyBard
01-21-2006, 10:35 PM
Problems with the above team.
Low HP - no durability
Very MP thirsty with no way of recovering MP without using items
Quite demanding regarding abilities. They require a lot of AP and take up too many Magic Stones.
None of the characters (apart from Zidane) have a guarunteed 9,999 damage attack.
nik0tine
01-21-2006, 11:04 PM
None of those characters have a guarunteed 9,999 damage Untrue. Zidanes Thievery will do 9999 damage, and Vivi's Flare +Reflect X2 should do 9999. If not, it won't do less than 7000. (And seriously, aside from a low level game, when will you need to do more than 7000 damage per attack?)
I always pick whomever I like best. Although, at this point in the game Dagger can't "concentrate" and sometimes her commands don't go through. Eiko is probably your best bet right now, but I usually pick dagger anyway.
asukaevaunit02
01-22-2006, 11:06 AM
ive beaten this game twice all the way through and kuja hundreds of times< my 1st time i used zidane, vivi, dagger, and eiko, this is really good i had very little probs, the occasional either here and there but, and this was with out, 2xreflect, or any of those fance tricks that do 9999 damage, 2nd time through zidane, vivi, aramarant, freya, ork perfectly no probs at all, aramarant is great to have in trance especailly against necron
NeoCracker
01-22-2006, 12:09 PM
Zidane, Amerant, Vivi, and Dagger. Cause they rock. Though about switching Dagger for Fraya, but decided on keeping the healing.
RaidenWeb17
01-22-2006, 02:09 PM
Instead of using the white mages, I sometimes give everyone auto-regen and then let Amarant do the healing if auto-regen isnt fast enough
auto-regen is way enough. dont even bother with auto-potion, you waste your money. also, in boss fights like Kuja and Necron, auto-regen heals your characters by the time Dagger/Eiko can use curaga, so if you want one of them just-in-case, use Dagger cause she has more attack options, and i find her physical attack a bit stronger than Eiko's, and that's not beacause of levels/weapons (on my data)
Dreddz
01-23-2006, 09:03 PM
Eidolons arent that useful in FFIX IMO, sure Ark does alot, but its still not going to save your ass most of the time.
Thats why Eiko is the better of the two, cause she has one attack, one very important attack, Holy. End Of.
I think Zidane, Steiner, Eiko and Quina are the best team.
profskett
01-23-2006, 10:45 PM
I find the best team differs depeding on what boss you happen to be fighting.
For all the final battles I use a standard party of Zidane, Vivi and Freya (Zidane cos Thievery is rather awesome, Vivi because as nik0tine said Flare with Reflect x2 is rather good and Freya because she's just sooo cool with the jumping and all). For the final member I switch between Eiko and Dagger. The reason I do this is because they are both excellent against different things. I use Eiko against anything which is weak against holy (Hades, Necron, etc) for her Madeen summon and Holy White Mag, and I use Dagger against most other things for her variety of eidolons (I just generally pummel Trance Kuja with Bahamut or Ark summons). What I can't yet decide is who to use against Ozma. Is he weak against Holy at all?
Xaven
01-24-2006, 03:39 AM
Um, why not both white mages? You can fill the last slot with whatever you wish, and rarely be short on healing.
Alexander
01-24-2006, 01:16 PM
Well, I like Zidane/Dagger/Amarant or Freya/Vivi or Eiko. Because Eidolons rock.
No, seriously. If you do Chocobo's Hot and Cold, you get enough jewels to make every Eidolon very good. And you get a LOT of Ore, that you can use to pump up summons even more, or you can pump up Leviathan. You don't know of how useful a pumped Atomos is against Grand Dragons. XD
RaidenWeb17
01-24-2006, 10:12 PM
Lv 5 death is all you need against Grand Dragons
i always go for the first 4:zidane dagger vivi steiner.eiko's double white is cool,but i like eidolon (dagger's trance) much more than double white.everything gets way cool when dagger goes trance.with auto-regen equipped on everyone,dagger casts ark once.zidane and steiner attacks,vivi casts doomsday,and dagger does nothing for the rest of the battle.
trance dagger=free AND coooool...
RaidenWeb17
01-25-2006, 10:52 PM
yes Dagger's trance is really good, but she lacks the really good white magics Holy, Full-Life, Jewel. So if I use a white mage I use Eiko
Ace14
01-26-2006, 05:47 AM
My best party would be Zidane, Armarant, Vivi, and Eiko but you can always alternate white mages. But in the final battle you should go with Eiko because of full-life and pheonix.
profskett
01-26-2006, 09:51 AM
Um, why not both white mages? You can fill the last slot with whatever you wish, and rarely be short on healing.Well, because I find that Vivi's black magic with reflect x2 is invaluable against pretty much everything. And I don't want to use an all mage party. Plus I like to have Freya to sit there and use Jump/Cherry Blossom/White Draw (when my mages start running out of MP). Does anyone have any recommendations for surviving Ozma with this party (Zidane, Dagger, Vivi & Freya)?
yes Dagger's trance is really good, but she lacks the really good white magics Holy, Full-Life, Jewel. So if I use a white mage I use Eiko
well it all boils down to preference.like summons?go with dagger.like white magic?go with eiko.still,IMO,eidolon trance is much better than double white,so i go with dagger everytime.their trance makes the big difference for me.
Well, because I find that Vivi's black magic with reflect x2 is invaluable against pretty much everything. And I don't want to use an all mage party. Plus I like to have Freya to sit there and use Jump/Cherry Blossom/White Draw (when my mages start running out of MP). Does anyone have any recommendations for surviving Ozma with this party (Zidane, Dagger, Vivi & Freya)?
let zidane use thievery.make sure it is at 9999.let dagger use mini and curaga as needed,and summon on other turns.let vivi use doomsday,while making sure it heals your whole party.let freya use dragon crest.make sure it is at 9999 also.equip auto-regen,auto-haste and every status-preventing support ability you have.ozma should be down in no time at all.
RaidenWeb17
01-26-2006, 11:24 PM
Auto-haste means nothing when fighting Ozma. Ozma's ATB bar is filled when you input any command making him go first anyways. The only time it doesnt fill is when you input a command during an attack animation (Hyprophant's Lv. 1 Ozma guide at www.gamefaqs.com)
Khaotic
01-26-2006, 11:29 PM
I personally used to use Vivi, Zidane, Eiko, Dagger - then I took out eiko for freya(9999 damage dragon attack thing) vivi is just the best <.<; can heal your characters (with right equipment) while doing high damage.
zidane is must have because steal or whatever cause you can't kick him out. steiner shock with ragnarok is enough for 9999 dmg. you don't have to train that hard. vivi death, drain, lv3 magic, flare, doomsday and return magic ability is essential. vivi learn ability fast so as amarant. better yet, whenever someone cast magic, vivi will attack back with that magic. vivi can also be useful for doomsday with ozma. you know you equip shadow absorbing armor with you. so vivi will return ozma doomsday to heal your party and if something happen to white mage, vivi can act as second healer with doomsday. for healer eiko is the best. she can learn full-life,phoenix,curaga (fast),dispel,might,jewel. her madeen and holy are good too. garnet is unmatched if comes the healing process. quina is good but i prefer eiko. it's hard to eat certain enemy
Auto-haste means nothing when fighting Ozma. Ozma's ATB bar is filled when you input any command making him go first anyways. The only time it doesnt fill is when you input a command during an attack animation
*slaps self in the head*
how can i EVER forget that?it took me almost an hour to steal ALL of ozma's items,and i noticed that,too.thank you for correcting me.^_^
Alexander
01-29-2006, 05:28 AM
Lv 5 death is all you need against Grand Dragons
I don't like to overlevel Quina kthxbai x.x
RaidenWeb17
01-29-2006, 10:39 PM
I don't like to overlevel Quina kthxbai x.x
Then give her virus
Alexander
01-30-2006, 02:12 AM
Then give her virus
I don't like to UNDERLEVEL Quina as well kthxbai x.x
No, seriously, Lv5 Death is useful when Quina is leveling. When you ditch him to put someone else, Atomos/Demi is the way to go <3
profskett
01-30-2006, 02:44 PM
let zidane use thievery.make sure it is at 9999.let dagger use mini and curaga as needed,and summon on other turns.let vivi use doomsday,while making sure it heals your whole party.let freya use dragon crest.make sure it is at 9999 also.equip auto-regen,auto-haste and every status-preventing support ability you have.ozma should be down in no time at all.What level do you have to be for this sort of tactic to work? Roughly? Cos that sounds like the sort of thing I do in most boss fights anyway.
*slaps self in the head*
how can i EVER forget that?it took me almost an hour to steal ALL of ozma's items,and i noticed that,too.thank you for correcting me.^_^Are his items any good? Are they worth stealing?
Peter_20
01-30-2006, 02:55 PM
I always loved this line-up:
Zidane
Vivi
Garnet
Steiner
What level do you have to be for this sort of tactic to work? Roughly? Cos that sounds like the sort of thing I do in most boss fights anyway.
i dont see any particular level that this tactic requires.but if you insist,i guess 50+ should be enough.i mean,ozma would not even last two rounds,its hp being 55000 only.
Are his items any good? Are they worth stealing?
elixir,robe of lords,dark matter,pumice piece.you be the judge.
RaidenWeb17
01-31-2006, 12:03 AM
If you waste Zidane's turn and steal you will probably die
If you waste Zidane's turn and steal you will probably die
i didnt die.i stole all those items.took quite a long time though,even with bandit and master thief equipped.
Flake
01-31-2006, 05:56 PM
I use Zidane/Dagger/Vivi/Steiner.
Hooray for the original team!
No there is a reason I use this party.
Zidane-Main character,can't switch him out.But he has a good attack and speed.
Garnet-White magic and eldions for damage.
Vivi-Black magic=Good.
Steiner-Best physical attack in the game IMO.
profskett
01-31-2006, 08:37 PM
Steiner-Best physical attack in the game IMO.Yeh, Steiner is probably the strongest, but Freya is just coooool!
i dont see any particular level that this tactic requires. but if you insist,i guess 50+ should be enough.i mean,ozma would not even last two rounds,its hp being 55000 only.Oh ok. That's not as bad as I thought. However, when I tried it before he cast mini on everyone which didn't help, and he can kill everyone in one go. I'm guessing Ark Summon would be a good plan too?
Also, since you mentioned it as part of the tactics, how do I get Dragon's crest to do 9999 every time?
RaidenWeb17
01-31-2006, 10:19 PM
Kill 100 dragon type enemies and Dragon's Crest will do 9999
profskett
02-09-2006, 04:31 PM
Oh, so it depends on how many dragons you've killed....
I never realised that.
Whilst we're on the subject, what do Cherry Blossom and Dragon's Breath depend on?
TheSpoonyBard
02-09-2006, 05:23 PM
Cherry Blossom is 50% stronger than a normal attack and increases in power as Freya's Spirit stat is raised.
Dragon's Breath will deal damage equal to the amount of HP the target has lost. The damage is capped at 9,999.
However, when I tried it before he cast mini on everyone which didn't help, and he can kill everyone in one go.
hence,the white magic "mini".you have it too,so go and use it.when ozma casts mini,use mini on your party members,and they'll be back to normal.in short,mini cancels mini.
I'm guessing Ark Summon would be a good plan too?
with auto-regen equipped,yes,summoning ark is pretty much a good idea.
RaidenWeb17
02-10-2006, 02:08 AM
Ark will heal Ozma unless you have found and satisfied all the friendly monsters. I wouldnt really use him anyways unless you have him powered up with a bunch of Lapiz Luzily (sp?) I just go with Zidane's Theivery, Freya's Dragon's Crest, Quina's Limit Glove and Frog Drop, and any other person using a Dark Matter
Ark will heal Ozma unless you have found and satisfied all the friendly monsters.
oh,i didnt know this.
you have him powered up with a bunch of Lapis Lazuli
i didnt know about this either.does hades synthesize lapis lazulis?
Thoughtless
02-18-2006, 12:07 AM
My ultimate mega super death party is Zidane, Steiner, Quina, Dagger.
Frogdrop = 9999 dmg
Darkside + Excalibar (? the target all attack) = Lots (can't remember)
I think you have to have Zidane and Dagger does all the healing + Ark if memory serve me ^^
I always loved this line-up:
Zidane
Vivi
Garnet
Steiner
yeh me too.
steiner- shock ability.
Vivi- use flare
Zidane attack- equip mp attack, that ability rocks balls
Dagger- just heal. and use summons if u want
:choc2:
oh yeh when fightin ozma equip vivi with return magic and the battle ends pretty quickly.
Avathar
03-28-2006, 10:12 AM
My favorite:
Zidane
Freya
Steiner
Amarant
That's the party you're supposed to send to Oeilvert (no magic) ^^yay for brutal strenght:tongue:
Darth Cid
03-29-2006, 12:26 AM
Zidane: Anything with Zidane & Garnet in it owns even in Oeilvert.
Avathar
03-29-2006, 05:12 PM
I actually'ld send the party you're not supposed to send:
To Oeilvert:
Zidane
Garnet
Eiko
Vivi
In Desert Palace:
Freya
Steiner
Amarant
Quina
Oeilvert this way was a bit a pain in the ass:D but Desert Palace on the other hand was easy peasy:D
:D :mad: Just trying to make it a little bit more exciting ^_-
crazybayman
03-29-2006, 05:29 PM
I'm a bit of a power-whore, and like all other FFs, I tend to go with all out raw power. Hence, by the end of the game I was using:
Zidane
Amarant
Steiner
Freya
And I'd swap Vivi for Freya when black magic is necessary. As someone mentioned earlier, once you get Auto-Regen, curing isn't as necessary, especially in the final battle. It always annoys me that the typical white mage, such as Eiko and Dagger have weak physical attacks, and are sometimes just left waiting for the need for someone to be healed.
Vivi123
03-30-2006, 02:16 AM
My Party from Disc 2 to end of the game.
Zidane
Dagger
Vivi
Eiko
Sin Magnum
03-30-2006, 02:20 AM
I always loved this line-up:
Zidane
Vivi
Garnet
Steiner
Zeromus_X
03-30-2006, 02:36 AM
Ozma will automatically do a turn when you select a command. So it's not going to be just two turns...:cat:
Anyway, I always use Eiko, Vivi, and Quina. Pretty MP hungry, but I love 2 X Reflect and Blue Magic. And White Magic. I'd probably put Garnet in if Vivi wasn't so awesome. I also liked using Freya, depending on my mood. :cat:
Darth Cid
03-30-2006, 10:07 PM
I actually'ld send the party you're not supposed to send:
To Oeilvert:
Zidane
Garnet
Eiko
Vivi
In Desert Palace:
Freya
Steiner
Amarant
Quina
Oeilvert this way was a bit a pain in the ass:D but Desert Palace on the other hand was easy peasy:D
:D :mad: Just trying to make it a little bit more exciting ^_-
Zidane: Heh, I used that line-up too, but that's because 1) Zidane and Garnet side-by-side, 2) I couldn't stand the idea of Kuja being able to drop Garnet in a pit of lava whenever he wanted. Call me weird.
Avathar
04-03-2006, 02:11 PM
:D I'm not calling you weird, i too actually loved it that Zidane and Garnet were together^_^why would they have to be seperated??
Oh, and btw: any character in FFIX can do easily 9.999 damage (if not by boosting magic (Boost for summons, Focus for magic), Might for strenght^^)
I love just casting Berserk and Might on Amarant:D Now that's The Flaming Amarant, alrighty!
Darth Cid
04-03-2006, 02:19 PM
I'm not calling you weird, i too actually loved it that Zidane and Garnet were together^_^why would they have to be seperated??
Zidane: Quoted for truth! ^_^
daggertrepe
04-30-2006, 04:08 PM
Whoa
In Olievert it doesn't matter- everyone dies exceppt for zidane in my party, so u can go wit magic ppl, it's just that Zidane will do all the work, and that's not good. If yr planning on taking Dagger, then at least take freya and steiner with you. In the desert palace, it will be eiko, quina, vivi and amarant, so its some of both worlds.
that would be the best choice.
Cid Vicious
04-30-2006, 04:22 PM
This is an old thread, the guy's probly completed the game by now.
But i'll give my team anyway.
Oeilvert
Zidane
Steiner
Freya
Quina
Desert Palace
Amarant
Vivi
Dagger
Eiko
In Oeilvert, just attack, and equip Auto-Regan.
In Desert Palace, attack with Amarant, use Vivi's most powerful Black Magic and Eiko's Healing Magic in Battle. Dagger's pointless as she can never consentrate, so just use her too heal after Battle.
Jimmy Dark Aeons Slayer
05-01-2006, 12:49 AM
My personal favorite party is : Zidane(because i donīt have a choice);
Amarant( because ke kicks ass and has pretty decent power and his also faster than Steiner); Vivi( because his magic is truly destructive and effective); Eiko( i like to summon Mog and she is just as good at healing as Dagger)
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