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Blade Master
01-23-2006, 04:36 PM
Who does everyone think is the hardest boss in the game?
I was wondering because I always find Sephiroth very hard to defeat and Ansem really easy to defeat.There are also all the other bosses like Kurt Ziza and the Phantom at the clocktower.

Shooting Star
01-23-2006, 05:01 PM
for some reason i found the 2nd riku fight at Hollow Bastion really hard! i give up and didnt go on KH for ages then i went back on and defeated him! And the phantom fight is hard too.

yuno
01-23-2006, 05:10 PM
i think the game is made such that sephiroth would be the strongest boss.some might think otherwise,and i have an explanation for that.

it's just that,through time,as people saw how difficult sephiroth was,they started making guides with total focus on sephiroth.so when other people saw these guides,sephiroth seemed easier because they know what to do,while the other difficult bosses without focused and dedicated guides (kurt ziza,clock tower phantom,etc.) seemed a bit harder.there are more people who fully studied sephiroth's actions than people who fully studied the other bosses.

see?if you know what to do,basically everything gets so so so much easier.

The Summoner of Leviathan
01-23-2006, 05:49 PM
Kurt Zisa is kinda difficult, Phantom requires patients and Sephy is hell.

Of the three I failed to beat Sephyt as of yet.

look_out_below
01-23-2006, 07:08 PM
In optional bosses i thought that the Phantom and Sephiroth were tied, i had a heck of a time beating them. For non-optional bosses i thought the first Ursula form was hard (just because it took me a while to figure out what you should be attacking in that fight and when).

* White Aeris *
01-23-2006, 07:20 PM
I hope you guys don't laugh at me.... but i find the 2nd Ansem fight on the fake Destiny Islands thing pretty hard. You know the one where he is darting at you with the Guardian guy. Well, i always find that hard. The last Ansem fight is really easy compared to that!!! :)

Lost Number
01-23-2006, 07:22 PM
That Riku one, ya know, the hard one.

Psydekick
01-23-2006, 08:38 PM
Kurt Ziza is pretty hard:)

Awesomeman
01-23-2006, 08:51 PM
I found the Ice Titan pretty damn hard, but not as hard as Sephiroth.

Psydekick
01-23-2006, 08:55 PM
I'm sorry i don't agree Ice Titan is easy and yes Sephy is hard:)

Lost Number
01-23-2006, 08:56 PM
I would say, they all have a pattern. If you know the pattern, you beat the boss. So they are all supremly easy.

Psydekick
01-23-2006, 08:59 PM
Sephy after one Sin Harvest when he is superfast is preety un predictible:)

Lost Number
01-23-2006, 09:06 PM
So? Slight unpredictability. You know he is unpredictable, so therefore he is predictable.

Psydekick
01-23-2006, 09:08 PM
Back on topic, i think Rock titan is Far to easy.:)

Lost Number
01-23-2006, 09:10 PM
I have never been hit by him.

Psydekick
01-23-2006, 09:11 PM
Hades is easy too, in fact is there any boss that you have to do on KH that isen't easy?

Lost Number
01-23-2006, 09:13 PM
Maybe Riku 2, but after a while...

Psydekick
01-23-2006, 09:14 PM
He doesen't have any long range attacks though:)

Lost Number
01-23-2006, 09:15 PM
Long range attacks does not make a hard boss. You are in a restricted arena, though.

Psydekick
01-23-2006, 09:17 PM
Good point and you don't have Donald and goofy:)

mooglebunni608
01-23-2006, 11:19 PM
I HATE RIKU II!!!!
I still haven't killed him......

Hambone
01-24-2006, 01:14 AM
The hardest bosses definately are Riku 2, Sephiroth, Phantom, Kurt Zisa, and I strongly agree with White Aeris on Ansem 2.

Psydekick
01-24-2006, 06:50 AM
Ansem 2 is a bit easy compared with Sephy, Phantom and kurt Ziza but if you block that cross arena attack it's easy:)

Awesomeman
01-24-2006, 07:40 AM
I don't care what you say sora! but Ice Titan is pretty damn hard. I don't cheat like all you "guide user". I do it the old fashioned way: Finding out how to beat it by myself! And Ansem II is the easiest boss in the game.

Psydekick
01-24-2006, 07:53 AM
I found out how to beat him myself block his iceicles:)

Awesomeman
01-24-2006, 07:55 AM
DUHHHHH!!! You have a real talent for stating the obvious...

Pheesh
01-24-2006, 07:57 AM
the ansem in the tree is hard because you have a series of fights in a row without any break in between.

Riku II or sephy is the hardest.

Stay Essential
EE

Azure Chrysanthemum
01-24-2006, 08:00 AM
Awesomeman we do NOT tolerate personal attacks on this forum. You will stop speaking to Sora! like that. If I see much more of it you will be banned.

Awesomeman
01-24-2006, 08:04 AM
I was testing you...you assumed that I was talking about the ice titan in normal.He was easy. Why don't you try expert, mister obvious. Even then it was only sorta difficult.


You failed the test, you know...

Psydekick
01-24-2006, 08:06 AM
Well back on topic riku 2 is the hardest boss in my opinion:)

Awesomeman
01-24-2006, 08:08 AM
Your just saying that because you have no SKILLS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Azure Chrysanthemum
01-24-2006, 08:11 AM
Awesomeman I say again. You are NOT to insult Sora!. You are not to insult anybody on this forum. It is not permitted. If you keep doing this I WILL ban you, and I am not going to give you many more chances on this.

MetaphysicalManifestation
01-24-2006, 08:13 AM
I'm going to have to agree with the majority on this one:

Sephiroth for hardest optional boss

Rikku II for hardest story boss.

Awesomeman
01-24-2006, 08:14 AM
sorry. I sort of lost it for a sec. It won't happen again. Please forgive me Sora!

Pheesh
01-24-2006, 08:16 AM
zomg, now you're doing what sora did, just pm him an apology or you'll get teh spam warning.

The Phantom is another boss that makes me mad. You need to be attentive and have a lot of mp.

Stay Essential
EE

Awesomeman
01-24-2006, 08:24 AM
I agree with you EE.

Blade Master
01-24-2006, 03:22 PM
I still think that Sephiroth is very hard and i am level 100 i have only defeated him about 5 at most times before. My HP is very high but he can still take away about one sixth of my health with one hit!

Psydekick
01-24-2006, 03:24 PM
Does anyone think the Maleficent dragon is hard, i myself found it easy:)

Blade Master
01-24-2006, 03:26 PM
Myself I found the dragon not too hard it took me about 3 tries but I was on a low level then, only around 55.

Psydekick
01-24-2006, 03:29 PM
I found Ursula quite hard:)

Blade Master
01-24-2006, 03:30 PM
I easily defeated Ursula on my first try.

Psydekick
01-24-2006, 03:32 PM
i never understood that element thing:)

Lost Number
01-24-2006, 04:22 PM
Im only bout lvl 45 vs Dragon.
Ursula, I just used element randomly, it worked occasionly.

Psydekick
01-24-2006, 04:27 PM
Thats what i did in the end.....:)

Lost Number
01-24-2006, 04:31 PM
You can just hit her. Then dodge. I usually get the hang of the elements before dyin, but sometimes...*sigh*

Blade Master
01-24-2006, 04:49 PM
I just used any element at any time.

look_out_below
01-24-2006, 05:38 PM
Yay i wasnt alone in thinking that Ursula was hard. Besides her i found most boss battles easy and could usually do them without dying (i think the only other boss battle i died in was against Riku). I found that most the bosses in this game looked impressive but would have one incrediable flaw or another that made them hard to defeat. For example Maleficent, Cerebus, and Dual Horn could all easy be defeated by just jumping on their backs and then bashing and blasting away at them.

Ultima Shadow
01-24-2006, 05:56 PM
Myself I found the dragon not too hard it took me about 3 tries but I was on a low level then, only around 55.Whoa! 55? Low? Man, I was at around level 35 and I thought THAT was the AVERAGE level! :p

Anniexo
01-24-2006, 07:16 PM
I don't care what you say sora! but Ice Titan is pretty damn hard. I don't cheat like all you "guide user". I do it the old fashioned way: Finding out how to beat it by myself! And Ansem II is the easiest boss in the game.

ya ice titan and sephiroth are hard and i think all the ansems where easy i can kick his ass in 10 mins (all of him) many in less time

Psydekick
01-24-2006, 08:27 PM
All of the bosses at the start are really easy:)

Lost Number
01-24-2006, 08:29 PM
Not if yer terrible, like my brother, he has trouble with Selphie.

Psydekick
01-24-2006, 08:32 PM
Sephy or Selphie?

Lost Number
01-24-2006, 08:34 PM
Selphie. I stand by this.

Psydekick
01-24-2006, 08:41 PM
Thats not a boss but a practice fight and i stand by my word oof saying riku2 as the hardest:)

Cruise Control
01-24-2006, 08:41 PM
The tarzan boss ;_;

Lost Number
01-24-2006, 08:44 PM
I said my brother had difficulty. I agree with Riku 2.

Psydekick
01-24-2006, 08:45 PM
The tarzan boss ;_;
You mean Stealth Snake/Clayton its been so long since i did that part of the game i really can't remeber whether that was hard or not.:)

Tifa's Real Lover(really
01-24-2006, 09:04 PM
every boss in the game is easy, although i found tht kurt ziza quite a challenge.....

Psydekick
01-24-2006, 09:06 PM
I agree Riku2, Kurt Ziza, Phantom,Sephy are the only hard bosses in the game:)

RaidenWeb17
01-24-2006, 10:21 PM
You mean Stealth Snake/Clayton its been so long since i did that part of the game i really can't remeber whether that was hard or not.:)
that guy can be hard cause I dont think you have cure at that point, but I have had trouble with the Trickmaster in Wonderland before, for some weird reason

Slayer1514
01-25-2006, 12:40 AM
The only two bosses i cant beat are the Phantom of the clock tower, and Sephiroth.:mad:
But the second fight with Riku and the final battle with Ansem pissed me off. I thought Kurt Ziza was one of the easiest battles when you figured out to dodge roll when he came at you while spining with his swords.

Pheesh
01-25-2006, 02:33 AM
If we're talking about annoying (not hard) then ursula 2 is a bit of a pain. The camera is horrible, especially if you go to the back of her head to fight (which is the logical thing to do).

Stay Essential
EE

Psydekick
01-25-2006, 06:44 AM
to dodge roll when he came at you while spining with his swords.
I never did dodge roll perhaps thats why it took me so long:(

Pheesh
01-25-2006, 07:07 AM
it's the only way to get away from that attack.

Stay Essential
EE

Psydekick
01-25-2006, 07:10 AM
I thought you couldn't dodge it so i just took loads of elixirs and let him hit me:)

Cruise Control
01-25-2006, 10:44 AM
You mean Stealth Snake/Clayton its been so long since i did that part of the game i really can't remeber whether that was hard or not.Yeah, its the illegitimate child of Jay Leno and an iguana.


If we're talking about annoying (not hard) then ursula 2 is a bit of a pain. The camera is horrible, especially if you go to the back of her head to fight (which is the logical thing to do).If you go to the back of her head and lock on, Donald and Goofy will stay there fighting her while all you have to do is dodge till she dies. And score the final hit.

Pheesh
01-25-2006, 11:45 AM
I've passed the level about 25 times so i don't find it hard. I was just commenting on how annoying the camera is and her voice is just as bad.

Stay Essential
EE

Psydekick
01-25-2006, 05:05 PM
That stupid "Ahahahahaha" every time she does that spinning attack gets on your nerves that makes the fight hard:)

Slayer1514
01-25-2006, 10:28 PM
Ursula 2 was really easy all i did was keep going behind her AND LET DONALD AND GOOFY do what they wanted unless they died.:moomba:

Psydekick
01-26-2006, 07:43 AM
I wonder whther there will be a few harder bosses in KH2? Lets hope so:)

rikkupainegoofydonald
01-26-2006, 11:15 PM
Sephiroth's the hardest, though. D:

Lost Number
01-26-2006, 11:18 PM
Not nessicarily.

Hambone
01-26-2006, 11:27 PM
Yes and no. his speed after a successful sin harvest presents a fatal problem. I myself have only beaten him twice. Once you get the hang of the battle near the climax of the battle, I think it gets easier.

Zeromus_X
01-27-2006, 12:10 AM
after fighting sephy alot to level to 100, i find him easy now. (heartless angel is the only thing to worry about.)

i found phantom the most annoying...probably the fact that you cant do alot of damage at once, making the battle really long. (although, humourously, i beat it with oblivion:D and i complained about running out of mp all the time:p )

i also beat sephy with lady luck..before i got ultima weapon. who doesnt love 2 more mp? (before ultima weapon)

rikkupainegoofydonald
01-27-2006, 06:32 AM
I am right! Beat Sephiroth in KH2 at least level 100/120, keep using Second Chance...

Psydekick
01-27-2006, 07:29 AM
i think Phantom is much longer fight than sephy because of that clock thing:)

Tifa's Real Lover(really
01-27-2006, 10:21 PM
u can stop the clock thing....

Lost Number
01-27-2006, 10:24 PM
Its simple. Cast stop. Duh.

Tifa's Real Lover(really
01-27-2006, 10:26 PM
u r so smart *clapclap*

Blade Master
01-28-2006, 10:19 AM
It took me quite a few times but I finished the phantom really quickly the time I did kill him.

Auron Rules
01-28-2006, 10:54 AM
I think the hardest boss is Riku is the hardest!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

_yeojina_
01-29-2006, 06:18 AM
Hardest:
1. Sephiroth *1 hit dead*
2. Phantom
3. Kurt Zisa (Yes, that IS the right spelling)
4. Ice Titan
5. ...Wakka

Easiest:
1. Selphie
2. Guard Armor 2 (I know, I know... what do I know?)
3. Tidus
4. Maleficent (Both forms)
5. Rock Titan! Cast Aero. It does damage to some bosses!

Pheesh
01-29-2006, 07:19 AM
Selphie, Tidus and Wakka aren't bosses nor is wakka hard. They're there to get you accustomed to the fighting style and help you level up.

Stay Essential
EE

Tai-Ti
01-29-2006, 09:42 AM
ursula is officially my arch nemisis 0_o
both times, gave me the shizzles
she was anoying, and hard for me,
but i think Malificant in her dragon form thing was harder, I dunno
and the phantom at neverland was pretty anoying, but my vote DEFFINATELY goes to ursula T_T

Lost Number
01-29-2006, 02:49 PM
Maleficent Dragon is easy. By hiding under the pipes, only the homing balls can hit you, and you know how to deflect them, dont ya?

Tifa's Real Lover(really
01-29-2006, 03:01 PM
5. Rock Titan! Cast Aero. It does damage to some bosses!
aero doesnt do damae, aerora and aeroga does do damage

Psydekick
02-01-2006, 06:37 PM
Its simple. Cast stop. Duh.
Yeah i knew but you have to find the correct Clockface

Lost Number
02-01-2006, 08:47 PM
How long does it take to find a clockface. Theres only 4!

Hambone
02-01-2006, 09:11 PM
you can hit which ever one you want.

Flake
02-01-2006, 10:02 PM
I find all of this talk of Riku 2 being so hard funny.
I wooped him no problem.
The trick is to stay near and just wach him with your keyblade like a crazyman.
Seriously.no joke.That's how I beat him.

And Sephiroth is the hardest without a doubt.

Psydekick
02-03-2006, 08:04 AM
you can hit which ever one you want.
Youre wrong there will be one clockface you can lock on too and cast stop on and it changes loads:)

Hambone
02-03-2006, 05:34 PM
Youre wrong there will be one clockface you can lock on too and cast stop on and it changes loads:)
o.k o.k o.k. I remember now.

Lost Number
02-03-2006, 05:43 PM
I never noticed. Cant be that hard.

Tifa's Real Lover(really
02-03-2006, 10:32 PM
I find all of this talk of Riku 2 being so hard funny.
I wooped him no problem.
exactly

Psydekick
02-04-2006, 07:28 AM
Its a really annoying scene that goes on for like 5 minutes:(

Mossfoot
02-05-2006, 12:08 PM
Definalty and totally Phantom.
*shudders*

Elite Lord Sigma
02-09-2006, 09:55 PM
Sephiroth is a cakewalk compared to Phantom. Phantom's stupid orb changing crap is annoying as hell.

Psydekick
02-10-2006, 09:02 PM
No thats easy:)

Hambone
02-10-2006, 10:23 PM
It is annoying because when the orb finally turns white, you can only hit it 3 times if you're fast. And the stupid phantom moves too fast!

Psydekick
02-11-2006, 03:23 PM
I suppose but i found it easy:)

IceAngel
02-11-2006, 08:04 PM
I guess it depends wot level i woz on. someone on youtube.com sent a video of them giving sephiroth a run for his money. after that i fought sephiroth was well easy to defeat coz i had problems before. so i think erm... kurt zisaz the most anying but not TOO difficult.

leader of mortals
02-13-2006, 01:09 AM
I guess it depends wot level i woz on. someone on youtube.com sent a video of them giving sephiroth a run for his money. after that i fought sephiroth was well easy to defeat coz i had problems before. so i think erm... kurt zisaz the most anying but not TOO difficult.

i agree

Elite Lord Sigma
02-13-2006, 03:51 AM
Well, Phantom isn't as hard as "annoying as hell". I'm used to Sephiroth's attack patterns, and I have Ultima Weapon, so as long as I can interrupt Sin Harvest, he's pretty easy for me.

Psydekick
02-13-2006, 07:55 AM
Sin Harvest is sephys only devestaing attack

IceAngel
02-13-2006, 05:05 PM
Sin Harvest is sephys only devestaing attack

Yea it sure is! but its easy when you get the hang of throwin da keyblade at him while he's castin it. Thats because that way he just does the light pillars instead. Just STAY AWAY from those!:D

Psydekick
02-13-2006, 06:47 PM
Alternitavely just superfly over there and attack him:)

IceAngel
02-15-2006, 03:40 PM
yea or that lol

Psydekick
02-15-2006, 03:52 PM
Ice titan is quite a long fight but is easy:)

_yeojina_
02-16-2006, 10:49 AM
And here's the last bit which I forgot to add...

Most Average:
1. Ursula (Form 1)
2. White Shrooms
3. Black Fungus
4. Rare Truffle
5. It's a tie between Behemoth, Ice Titan (N.D.Y.), Cerberus and Hades.

Psydekick
02-16-2006, 12:41 PM
Most average WTF:confused:

The Summoner of Leviathan
02-16-2006, 03:14 PM
Behemoths are easy though...

Psydekick
02-17-2006, 08:17 AM
And Hades and Cerberus are too....

Ultima Shadow
02-17-2006, 04:30 PM
Thats because that way he just does the light pillars instead. Just STAY AWAY from those!:DLight Pillar is the awesome Ultima Weapon's most awesome move in FFVIII. Sephiroth's patetic counter move is "Flame Pillar". :greenie:

IceAngel
02-19-2006, 10:11 PM
Light Pillar is the awesome Ultima Weapon's most awesome move in FFVIII. Sephiroth's patetic counter move is "Flame Pillar". :greenie:

You know what I mean. The bigger flame/light pillars. They are annoying on FFVIII too!

KH-Cloudy
03-05-2006, 09:16 PM
i find none of the above is hard after i beat them :D but at the start i was like :wtf:

jill
03-10-2006, 03:21 AM
Sephy, the Agrabah guy and Phantom are not so hard as they are annoying. I don't know quite what the whole deal is with everyone saying they're so hard. But for some reason, that second Riku fight was hell for me. As pathetic as it sounds, I go back to refight that battle sometimes and I STILL lose. Maybe it's my freakishly low level. And Ansem sucked as a final boss.

Zeromus_X
03-10-2006, 03:57 AM
And Ansem sucked as a final boss.

That's probably why they added Kurt Zisa, Ice Titan, and Sephiroth to the later versions :cat:

Thinking back, I definitely found Phantom the most annoying and Ether-consuming. Especially because I beat it with Oblivion...:eep:

Oh well.

Sephy is easy when you know his attack pattern. (Doing what Ultima Shadow did isn't so easy though...)

Kurt Zisa is annoying, but not as much as Phantom. Kinda tricky for me to dodge roll the spinny-blade attack. (When he looks like a propeller...)

As a side note, doesn't Phantom target Sora first with his countdown on Expert Mode? :cat:

Ryth
03-11-2006, 04:15 AM
Sephiroth is the hardest boss for sure then comes Kurt Zisa. Sephiroth was a pain in the ass to beat. ><

Tifa's Real Lover(really
03-11-2006, 03:02 PM
seph > kurt ziza

sephiroth is easy its all abou the maneuver, it doesnt matter abou the "strength" or wut type of keyblade u have

kurt zisa was more of a challenge just because he has shilding on everything, disabling ur abilities and is constantly moving everywhere

Momiji
03-12-2006, 10:12 PM
I always though Sephiroth was easy (especially at Level 70+), but Kurt Zisa was a pain to kill, and the Phantom, while long and tiring, wasn't that hard.