do u like ff7 better than ff8?

[audsley]

U GUYS SHOULD KNOW THAT...
I love ff8 hardowt and it way better than ff7.
whoever likes ff7 please tell me why!!!
what is so special bout it???
ff8 is so coool my fav ff, and ff7 is below-average compared to ff8!
Random Message:Sephiroth is saaaaddd...
the graphics on ff7 make me so mad aswell...
but ff7 is not entirely bad, it has cool characters (especially Aerith and Yuffie!)

replies urgently needed!

[Christmas]

I start to like FF VII more when I read this thread.

[audsley]

I start to like FF VII more when I read this thread.
what's that suppost to mean?

[MetaphysicalManifestation]

I do believe it means this thread is the epitome of everything terrible.

Meh, I like both games about the same.

[rubah]

I prefer ff8. I didn't get nearly as into 7 as I did 8.

[kikimm]

I'm with rubah on this one. VIII was something really special. :D

[-N-]

I do believe it means this thread is the epiphany of everything terrible.

Meh, I like both games about the same.I think you mean epitome, not epiphany. An epiphany is a sudden revelation, while an epitome is a synonym for a peak. :p

And yes, that is exactly what it means.

[Slade]

No I prefer VIII.

[Slayer1514]

i like both but can get pulled into the story of ff8 better than 7

[MetaphysicalManifestation]

I think you mean epitome, not epiphany. An epiphany is a sudden revelation, while an epitome is a synonym for a peak. :p

And yes, that is exactly what it means.

My bad

[rubah]

They sound rather alike, don't they?

ih-pif-an-e
ih-pit-a-mee

Forgive me, I'm just happy that I know how to pronounce epitome correctly now.

[Lychon]

Yeah, I agree that threads like this tend to polarize and anger people who don't take lightly to the opinions of others. Not to bash you or anything, but what kind of answer did you expect to get by posting this question in the FF8 forum board? Even though most people here would be partial to Final Fantasy 8 over most other games in the series, I think we've all gone through enough of these threads and arguments to realize that there really is no point to them.

Personally, I prefer Final Fantasy 8 over any other game ever created. One could write a book about the game's extraordinary features, but suffice it to say that the combination of its music, storyline, character relations, and seemless cut scenes interlaced throughout gameplay make FF8 simply fantastical to experience.

[*~Endless Night~*]

I prefer 8, but 7 is still good
The thing about the graphics though, its not really fair to say that coz at the time that was awesome graphics

[boys from the dwarf]

yeah i like FF8 better. their both good games but this one is a lot better.

[AndrewF]

The reason why ff7's 'bad graffics were so bad' was because it was made in 1997...

ff8 was made in like 2000 or something... therefore leaving more time to improve graphics and story. I was also longer, but I didn't think that the story was as complex as ff7.

FF8 was too easy to level up and gain stats, and you could easily get to 9999hp at level 50... while Cloud would be at 5100hp with hp plus(3stars) with fire and ultima equipped.
Do not double post. ~ Leeza

[Xaven]

Not to bash you or anything, but what kind of answer did you expect to get by posting this question in the FF8 forum board? Even though most people here would be partial to Final Fantasy 8 over most other games in the series, I think we've all gone through enough of these threads and arguments to realize that there really is no point to them.
I agree. Expect an overly biased response from this thread, because that's what you're going to get.

I prefer FFVIII over FFVII. As to why, I do not know. I guess it just appeals to me more.

[DynasticJam]

I think that FF7 was better with the storyline, because the first time I completed FF8 even by the end of the game I didn't have a clue what the main storyline was. I think that it was easier to follow with FF7. But I still think that they are both good games, and it is difficult to decide.

[Neco Arc]

I prefer ff8 ff6.

[Setzer Gabianni]

FFVII > FFVI > FFVIII

FFVIII: Crap main cast. Stupid RinoaxSquall love thing. Wondeful scenery.

FFVII: Likeable cast. Cloud was better after youknowwho died. Sephiroth > Ultimecia.

[Lost Number]

Oh no! I cant decide! I got really involved in FF8, but the movies wont go, so I havent played it in ages. I thought FF7 was great, best storyline of the lot. I didnt really mind bout Squall & Riona, not my thing.
But the gameplay of 8 was slightly better(dont shoot me!) and the graphics, arggh I cant decide...

[Shin Gouken]

They are both very different games. It's like saying whether you prefer korn or the offspring. It depends what sort of music you like, it depends what kind of characters, story, graphics and gameplay you like.

I don't think one game is better than the other. Although i do think FFVII is over rated, and i personally prefered FFVIII

[Markus. D]

I like how FFVIII is challenging even once you get to a max level.


and besides.... theres no story more perfect.

[raskerino]

FFVIII is my favorite game of all time- I love it due to the feel, timing, setting, emersion in the story and mainly characters. But I'm not blind to the possible problems it has.

a) The junction system (which I love) causes people to draw on and on for hours, if they knew what they were doing better it might not, but the fact that so many people do thus makes it a much worse game for many.
a1) In comparison with this FFVII does not cause hours of such, you level up materia but never really forced to do much. The system allows a lot of customization though not quite as much and some fun combos. I consider these systems about equal but I can so easily see someone hating FFVIII's.

b) The orphanage scene was (looking only at the plot) a pretty crappy, somewhat cliched plot twist- I'll admit it it was pretty bad. However I loved that scene not for the story but the way it moved around the different characters and the way it developed along with the scene. Squall going around noticing things, Irvine finally serious giving a totally different entrance on his character (which we had seen flashes of before). This scene for me was great but not because of a good storyline touch. Again though I could very easily see someone calling this scene crap.

c) There are many attacks on Zell, Rinoa and Squall. A lot of these I discount as nutty. Ones like: I hate Squall he's a pussy, are stupid as they mean absolutely nothing and when you argue them the people fold (meaning have no argument or insult you. However there are arguments that Squall's character changed to quickly (again I disagree but you can definitely see how this opinion could be formed). Rinoa is attacked for various reasons though I've never in my reading of posts seen a real argument for this so someone else can say why. Though of course any of this might just be as simple as "she bugged me." Zell's hyperness made me enjoy him but there are people who dislike the hyper characters of FF.

d) Only learning about Ultimecia in the final disk felt a bit tacked on to me the first time through. There was no villian who captured your imagination in this game. Seifer was the best but he wasn't a villian he was someone who got caught up in a dream of power (and more). Also going along with the lack of an enemy that was done excellently the time compression thing felt tacked on and weak to many. I won't go into an explanation as it will take too long, but while I was fine with this it could feel weak.

Basically what I'm trying to say is: there are clear problems, I think it's a more problematic game than FFVII, but it has something else, for me at least, you see Squall's thought process and you feel you're part of it, he's far closer to me than any other FF character (Yuri from SH gets second) the other characters were made so marvelously, with the short but great development of Quistis to the fun, easy spirit of Laguna. This all culminated in a feel for this game that made it flat out superior to any other game I've played. And yet it's easy to see someone not being able to stand the parts I love or seeing a different angle on them where I will admit it's pretty bad. And FFVII has a lot going for it. Sephiroth is a villian who's amazingly done. The story is excellent and the characters are very good. I love places like Midgar, the social structure, the feel of it and the individual parts make it a very interesting setting (and my favorite part of FFVIIAC). It has a ton going for it and has two of the most popular characters of all time- Cloud and Sephiroth. I also want to mention before I finish this post, Cait Sith is an excellent character, yes he betrays you- that makes his character mean something in the context of the story, sure it annoyed me but it developed his character. He really cares about being part of the party and he does something he deplores to stay in it. Reeve seems something of a measly man surrounded by hard decisions and a moral code combined with not being able to stand for it- to me this made an interesting and well done character.

So yes I prefer VIII to VII but I don't think it's better in every way and I think it's much easier to find fault with. As I opened with it's a love or hate game more than any other FF.

[Rocket Edge]

VIII was something really special. :D my thoughts exactly

[TurkSlayer]

whoever likes ff7 please tell me why!!!
what is so special bout it???

What's so special about VIII? I never found anything interesting about it. It remained constantly boring. I got near the end of disk 3 and said "Screw this." I did this three times, and every time I ended with "Screw this." It's just not a very good game, IMO.

[~SapphireStar~]

I prefer ff8. I didn't get nearly as into 7 as I did 8.
Same here,

[anacacia]

I like 8's story line better. But to me, they are kinda the same.

[Desert Wolf]

FF7 is better for me.I played FF8 after FF7 and I didnt find it as good.Firstly the story wasnt anything like FF7s.FF7 also had a much better replay value for me.The Characters were better too.Just everything about FF7 is great.

[Shiny]

I like ff7, because it's storyline was better than 8's. Although the music was good in both. I still think 7 had more developed and less annoying characters. And if people are still complaining about the crap graphics in 7...it was 1997! Look at the graphics in Advent Children.

[Desert Wolf]

Yeah.The story was much better.You dont see all these crazy theories for FF7.

[*~Angel Wing~*]

I'm with rubah on this one. VIII was something really special. :D
...ah...Final Fantasy VIII...my favorite game in the WHOLE UNIVERSE!!!:kaohappy2 I agree 100%, it was VERY special.:love: I played VIII first, so that may be why I am more attached to it than other FF games and as I said in another thread, I believe the first Final Fantasy you play will always have a special place in your heart, and FFVIII DEFINETLY does for me!!! :kaolove: I can't even put into words the emotions I felt while I played that game, and what made it even more special was that my sister and I both played it together, and were able to spend quality time together in doing something we both enjoyed, and were swept into its magic together. :kaolove2:
...FFVII on the other hand was NOWHERE close to being as good as FFVIII.:nonono: I hardly liked any of the characters, the storyline was confusing, the graphics really sucked, I didn't feel ANY of those same emotions and magic as I did when I played FFVIII, and my sister also agreed. I personally thought that FFX and Kingdom Hearts were WAAAY better than FFVII, and I really think that it's CRAZY how they can put "Quite possibly the greatest game ever made." on the back of FFVII. :mad: ...because we all know Final Fantasy VIII should have had that statement on THEIR cover!!! :hot:

[~SapphireStar~]

I really think that it's CRAZY how they can put "Quite possibly the greatest game ever made." on the back of FFVII. ...because we all know Final Fantasy VIII should have had that statement on THEIR cover!!!
Right on sister! Lead the revolution!

[Shiny]

...FFVII on the other hand was NOWHERE close to being as good as FFVIII. I hardly liked any of the characters, the storyline was confusing, the graphics really sucked, I didn't feel ANY of those same emotions and magic as I did when I played FFVIII, and my sister also agreed. I personally thought that FFX and Kingdom Hearts were WAAAY better than FFVII, and I really think that it's how they can put "Quite possibly the greatest game ever made." on the back of FFVII. ...because we all know Final Fantasy VIII should have had that statement on THEIR cover!!!
The storyline to 7 is rather simple, but you failed to complete all of the game (i.e. you didn't go to Lucrecia's waterfall) so parts of it were left out. Unlike 8, all of the characters were developed to an extent. All of them had their own unique persona unlike 8 who's characters (especially Quistis) lacked a personality. By the way, 8's character Squall was said to have been modeled after Cloud. And both of them are VERY similiar (personality wise) so I think that's true. And the whole quote on the back of the game...7 isn't the greatest game ever made neither is 8. Until Square makes an rpg that doesn't rival any of their othert rpg's then that won't happen. Besides your only real agruement as to why 7 was crap is because the graphics were horrible. 8's weren't that great either (only in the FMV's) but that's okay...it was a while ago. They didn't have the same technology they have now. Kingdom Hearts and Final Fantasy X have nothing to do with what the person asked by the way. ;) :D

[Desert Wolf]

To back you up.Some people say that FF6 is there favourite game.For an RPG like FF you dont need graphics to make it great.Just a good storyline and FF7 has that.

[AndrewF]

Dammit, Its a bloody video game!

[lady yunalesca]

they both have elements that were great, and both are undoubtably amongst the greatest games ever made anyway!!!! but 8 for us europeans lacked something as you couldnt do anything with the chocobos!!!! they are an integral part of the ff world!!!!! plus drawing sucked, and materia rocked !!!!!!

[audsley]

Yeah, I agree that threads like this tend to polarize and anger people who don't take lightly to the opinions of others. Not to bash you or anything, but what kind of answer did you expect to get by posting this question in the FF8 forum board? Even though most people here would be partial to Final Fantasy 8 over most other games in the series, I think we've all gone through enough of these threads and arguments to realize that there really is no point to them.

Personally, I prefer Final Fantasy 8 over any other game ever created. One could write a book about the game's extraordinary features, but suffice it to say that the combination of its music, storyline, character relations, and seemless cut scenes interlaced throughout gameplay make FF8 simply fantastical to experience.

ur probably right but I was just curious...

[~SapphireStar~]

but 8 for us europeans lacked something as you couldnt do anything with the chocobos!!!!
Please dont inlcude all of us in that statement. To me 8 was far superior to 7.

[TurkSlayer]

...FFVII on the other hand was NOWHERE close to being as good as FFVIII.:nonono: I hardly liked any of the characters, the storyline was confusing, the graphics really sucked, I didn't feel ANY of those same emotions and magic as I did when I played FFVIII, and my sister also agreed.
:eek: :eek: :eek: You understood FFVIII, yet you found FFVII's story confusing? It's completely opposite for me. FFVII was simple to understand, yet FFVIII made very little sense. Of course, I might have been too bored to pay attention...

Also, I hate FFVIII's graphics. But then I like primitive graphics (Like FFVI), so I guess I'm not a proper judge.

[Ashley Schovitz]

No Irealy sya that FFVIII is much better, VII was anything special to me.

[*~Angel Wing~*]

The storyline to 7 is rather simple, but you failed to complete all of the game (i.e. you didn't go to Lucrecia's waterfall) so parts of it were left out. Unlike 8, all of the characters were developed to an extent. All of them had their own unique persona unlike 8 who's characters (especially Quistis) lacked a personality. By the way, 8's character Squall was said to have been modeled after Cloud. And both of them are VERY similiar (personality wise) so I think that's true. And the whole quote on the back of the game...7 isn't the greatest game ever made neither is 8. Until Square makes an rpg that doesn't rival any of their othert rpg's then that won't happen. Besides your only real agruement as to why 7 was crap is because the graphics were horrible. 8's weren't that great either (only in the FMV's) but that's okay...it was a while ago. They didn't have the same technology they have now. Kingdom Hearts and Final Fantasy X have nothing to do with what the person asked by the way. ;) :D
...even if I did see the waterfall scene, I doubt it would have changed my mind about FFVII, and it wasn't that important because it wasn't even a REQUIRED scene!!! And that's your opinion if you think FFVII storyline was simpler, but for me it was a bunch of unimportant chaos that meant nothing to me. :kaodizzy: Also, my argument for not liking FFVII was not only the sucky graphics. Maybe if you fully read my post, you will see that I said in addition to the graphics, that I didn't like the characters, and I felt NO EMOTION!!! :kaoindif:And I totally disagree with you on FFVIII's characters lacking personality. (except for the Quistis thing) Believe me, if you think FFVII's characters had personality, then FFVIII DEFINETLY had that AND MORE!!! :kaoangry: I know its the FFVIII thread, & I mentioned FFX & Kingdom Hearts because I thought they were better, and was just using them as a comparison. Jeez...don't be so critical!!! Final Fantasy VIII KILLS FFVII ANY DAY!!! :kaofight:

Right on sister! Lead the revolution!
Oh yeah!!! You know it!!! FINAL FANTASY VIII IZ DA BOMB!!!:kaocheer:

[Shiny]

...even if I did see the waterfall scene, I doubt it would have changed my mind about FFVII, and it wasn't that important because it wasn't even a scene!!! And that's your opinion if you think FFVII storyline was simpler, but for me it was a bunch of unimportant chaos that meant nothing to me. Also, my argument for not liking FFVII was not only the sucky graphics. Maybe if you fully read my post, you will see that I said in addition to the graphics, that I didn't like the characters, and I felt NO EMOTION!!! And I totally disagree with you on FFVIII's characters lacking personality. (except for the Quistis thing) Believe me, if you think FFVII's characters had personality, then FFVIII DEFINETLY had that AND MORE!!! I know its the FFVIII thread, & I mentioned FFX & Kingdom Hearts because I thought they were better, and was just using them as a comparison. Jeez...don't be so critical!!! Final Fantasy VIII KILLS FFVII ANY DAY!!!
You're telling me not to be critical when you say that 8 was the best game ever made and that everything else fails in comparison. You say don't be so critical yet you slam a game that made more money than 8 (which is 7 by the way) and will be remembered to this day as one of the greatest rpg's ever made. You're contradicting yourself saying that 8's characters had depth then say the Quistis lacked personality. And there would be no Squall without Cloud. I liked 8, but seriously...the whole thing was extremely cliche. Oh I'm anti-hero without any emotions who falls in love with in a matter of 2 seconds and became her knight in shining armor. Bah...a bunch of teens with issues. Boring! Just because you played 8 first doesn't mean it's the best. You haven't even played enough FF's to know what is the best one out of the whole series so you can not say that it is the best. I don't really think there is a best Final Fantasy, because all of them have a unique flair to them. And some just suck...whereas others whether you like it are not are groundbreaking. Which 7 is. I hope that answers the question of the thread starter. :D To never ask a question like that in an FF forum.

[*~Angel Wing~*]

You're telling me not to be critical when you say that 8 was the best game ever made and that everything else fails in comparison. You say don't be so critical yet you slam a game that made more money than 8 (which is 7 by the way) and will be remembered to this day as one of the greatest rpg's ever made. You're contradicting yourself saying that 8's characters had depth then say the Quistis lacked personality. And there would be no Squall without Cloud. I liked 8, but seriously...the whole thing was extremely cliche. Oh I'm anti-hero without any emotions who falls in love with in a matter of 2 seconds and became her knight in shining armor. Bah...a bunch of teens with issues. Boring! Just because you played 8 first doesn't mean it's the best. You haven't even played enough FF's to know what is the best one out of the whole series so you can not say that it is the best. I don't really think there is a best Final Fantasy, because all of them have a unique flair to them. And some just suck...whereas others whether you like it are not are groundbreaking. Which 7 is. I hope that answers the question of the thread starter. :D To never ask a question like that in an FF forum.
........and again this is all YOUR opinion!!! (except for FFVII makin' more money, cause that is true)

[Noj_R]

The story in FF7 was'nt very good... I found it to be this: A young warrior from a futuristic city who chases a guy with a long sword around the world on wild goose chase. Along the way he meets friends like: An indian tiger, an annoying chick that finally dies, and a stuffed moogle...

i didnt find the plot twisters heart pulling by any means.

Ok, the thing is I played FF8 first. When I played FF7, I was disappointed to discover all the rave and rejoicing it got was undeserved.

FF7 may have been good for 1997. But now, It doesnt compare.

Those are my opinons. Dont get me wrong, Cloud and Sephiroth were cool, but not as cool or developed as the cast of FF8 and 9.

These are simply my own opinions...:greenie:

[roxy]

Everyone has their own opinions. I found 8 cute.

[~SapphireStar~]

Everyone has their own opinions.
Yes thats true, but you have to remember the selfish bunch of people (you know who you are), who would rather force their opinion down your throat and not give a monkeys about what you respect or hate.

[Rusty]

I love FFVII, but I love FFVIII.

[Alexander]

FFVIII. BEcause I am in a "Hate VII!" phase. x.x

[Setzer Gabianni]

Don't too e-serious now.

If anyone posts DECENT reasons as to why they liked FFVIII, go ahead, I will read and judge them.

[Shiny]

Hm, people are forgeting that these are just opinions. You can either A. agree or B. disagree but the truth of the matter is that they are both great games. And it is fact that 7 happens to be one of Square's best games that they've produced as of yet. Also, if anyone had plausible reasons as to why they didn't like one of the games feel free to share. Otherwise be prepared for a debate. Mwahaha! :evilking:

[Lost Number]

Decent reasons.
Its junction system.
GF system
Leveling system - ensures challenges.
Draw
Story

[Shiny]

Decent reasons.
Its junction system.
GF system
Leveling system - ensures challenges.
Draw
Story
Oh, I forgot all about that draw system. Yeah, I hated that. The Junctioning in the beginning was annoying, because Quistis bugged me ti'll no end with that. I liked the GF system..wasn't that bad. Don't even get me started on 8's crap story. Those are some pretty good reasons though. :D

[Emerald weapon]

FF7 is better for me.I played FF8 after FF7 and I didnt find it as good.Firstly the story wasnt anything like FF7s.FF7 also had a much better replay value for me.The Characters were better too.Just everything about FF7 is great.
got to agree with him(and the junction system sucked!!!)

[Lost Number]

Dismiss all arguments to the contrary with a wave of their hand. Some people dont listen.

[Noj_R]

Oh, I forgot all about that draw system. Yeah, I hated that. The Junctioning in the beginning was annoying, because Quistis bugged me ti'll no end with that. I liked the GF system..wasn't that bad. Don't even get me started on 8's crap story. Those are some pretty good reasons though. :D

FF8 has crap for a story...This is war...:D

FF8's story is this: A young man with a troubled past, who is destined to save the world, is taught to love again by a beautiful young woman.

FF7's story is this: A young man with a troubled past chases a powerful warrior around the globe while unraveling the mysteries of himself and his allies.

It appears that FF8 has a deeper and more emotional plot than 7's. FF8 was not just about saving the world. More importantly, it was the story of Squall being taught to love again by Rinoa. The story progresses normally, you know: travel to towns, fight bosses, the good old stuff. But something was different than most RPGs. Squall and Rinoa's relationship grows along the way. It starts as nothing than mere flirting, but eventually flourishes into an emotional climax at the end of the game. Watching these two characters fall in love was one of the most emotionally tugging things I have experienced. I know its just a game, but for everyone who experienced it, it is personal to them. FF8 did something alot of RPGs havent done ( including FF7 ), and that was to take the focus off of saving the world, and to explore the depths of the human heart.

FF7 was about saving the world, FF8 was about two people falling in love. Which has a better story?

Answer: FF8!

[roxy]

I thought most guys wouldn't care for love stories...

[Noj_R]

I thought most guys wouldn't care for love stories...

I like romance. It is a great storytelling medium, it made FF8 stand out from the rest.

[Shadow The Red XIII Thing]

Are you guys on crack.
FF8 story was stupid. We all were orphans at the same orphanage and we all just kinda forgot arent we retarted.:O_O: :Oo:
FF7 had a story that wasnt a convuluted piece of crap. Therefore much better game. Also it didnt have rinoa so it was much,much better.:)
PS FF8 didnt make the EGM top 200 games of all time list FF7 did.:cool:

[Noj_R]

Are you guys on crack.
FF8 story was stupid. We all were orphans at the same orphanage and we all just kinda forgot arent we retarted.:O_O: :Oo:
FF7 had a story that wasnt a convuluted piece of crap. Therefore much better game. Also it didnt have rinoa so it was much,much better.:)
PS FF8 didnt make the EGM top 200 games of all time list FF7 did.:cool:

Yeah and so did Super Mario Bros. ( theres a good story for you ) :rolleyes2

FF7 made the list only cause it was the game that made FF big in the US.

Convuluted piece of crap? All FF7's story was this: me chasing a chibi model Sephiroth around the world as block that passed for a man, with cones sticking out of his head. Along the way I meet more chibi squares that pass for humans, and I listen to all the cheesy dialogue till the end...

You dont have to think that FF8's story was good. But FF7's was a recycled cliche of a story compared to FF8. Save the world, heh...heh...Thats original...

I didnt like FF7, and the only reason Im being cynical is cause you were.

P.S. And FF8 didnt have Aeris in it. That makes 8 da bomb! :cool:

[vampirepiggyhunter7]

7. 8's my least fav. Its great, but if you ever run away, it screws you in the end...

[~SapphireStar~]

Are you guys on crack.
No, I dont drugs to enjoy good games *cough FF8 *cough

FF8 story was stupid. We all were orphans at the same orphanage and we all just kinda forgot arent we retarted.
That was a plot twist, not the actual story itself, did you play the game?

FF7 had a story that wasnt a convuluted piece of crap. Therefore much better game.
The story isnt everything, chraracters, music, graphics, battle system, etc. So much better in FF8 then 7.

Also it didnt have rinoa so it was much,much better.
No, but it did have Tifa ... Kill me now ...

PS FF8 didnt make the EGM top 200 games of all time list FF7 did.
And? Just because a game makes it to EGMs top 200 games doesnt mean I shall enjoy it.

[Shin Gouken]

Are you guys on crack.
FF8 story was stupid. We all were orphans at the same orphanage and we all just kinda forgot arent we retarted.:O_O: :Oo:
FF7 had a story that wasnt a convuluted piece of crap. Therefore much better game. Also it didnt have rinoa so it was much,much better.:)
PS FF8 didnt make the EGM top 200 games of all time list FF7 did.:cool:


FFVII was released at a significant stage in role playing games. It was the first to step out of the classic rpg graphics and became a lot more real. Final fantasy VIII then took this further but by that time, it had already been done. That explains why it was in the top 200 games of all time.

FFVII didn't cut it for me. It was a great game but not the best. Sephiroph was cool until his mystery was unveiled. Then you go from town town only to be told that "you just missed the guy in the cape". And when you catch up to sephiroth, he had lost any fragments of cool he had left.
The characters, plot, gameplay etc were great but the game didn't flow well for me. Disc 1 was electric, then it just died.

I can also honestly say that 90% of the characters were dull in my opinion. Barret, the typical muscle who hides his feelings. Tifa and aerith had nothing to offer at all. Yuffie and cait sith are the worst characters ever created in final fantasy and cloud .....well he was just boring. Cid and vincint are the noticable exeptions.

[Shadow The Red XIII Thing]

I did play the game but the twist made me hit myself it was so stupid.

[Shoeberto]

I liked 7 better, but it was my first FF game.

[lady yunalesca]

Please dont inlcude all of us in that statement. To me 8 was far superior to 7.

so you got to use the chocobos as they were intended to be used then????? i suggest you read what i wrote!!! we got screwed over on the chocobo mini game!!!

materia rocks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[audsley]

man this thread is long...
i thought everyone would throw tantrums at me because I don't like ff7.
lol

[Slade]

so you got to use the chocobos as they were intended to be used then????? i suggest you read what i wrote!!! we got screwed over on the chocobo mini game!!!

materia rocks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Pfft......the chocobo game in VII was enough to make me jump ship. Stupidity at its utmost worst. I'd vote the chocobo game on VIII over VII's anyday. And IX's 'chocobo hot and cold' is better than both of them.

(My opinion btw. Just like to make that clear before I get a flood of hate mail)

[*~Angel Wing~*]

The story in FF7 was'nt very good... I found it to be this: A young warrior from a futuristic city who chases a guy with a long sword around the world on wild goose chase. Along the way he meets friends like: An indian tiger, an annoying chick that finally dies, and a stuffed moogle...

i didnt find the plot twisters heart pulling by any means.

Ok, the thing is I played FF8 first. When I played FF7, I was disappointed to discover all the rave and rejoicing it got was undeserved.

FF7 may have been good for 1997. But now, It doesnt compare.

Those are my opinons. Dont get me wrong, Cloud and Sephiroth were cool, but not as cool or developed as the cast of FF8 and 9.

These are simply my own opinions...:greenie:
lol that is the PERFECT summary for that game...:D I agree with all the above, cause that's how I felt too.

[Noj_R]

Then you go from town town only to be told that "you just missed the guy in the cape".

Guys, that was practically the whole story. The beginning of disc 1 starts the story, and then its go to town, " you missed the man with the cape ", go to next town, " you missed the man with the cape ", go to next town, " you missed the man with the cape "...on and on...

I couldnt stand it!

FF8 was way better :cool:

[~SapphireStar~]

so you got to use the chocobos as they were intended to be used then????? i suggest you read what i wrote!!! we got screwed over on the chocobo mini game!!!
Yes I did read (sadly) what you wrote and I said dont include all Europeans in your statement as some of us dont care if we got screwed over with chococo games.

[Neco Arc]

As I previously stated, FFVI is better than FFVIII.

[*~Angel Wing~*]

Guys, that was practically the whole story. The beginning of disc 1 starts the story, and then its go to town, " you missed the man with the cape ", go to next town, " you missed the man with the cape ", go to next town, " you missed the man with the cape "...on and on...

I couldnt stand it!

FF8 was way better :cool:
OMG how true is that!!! :grinpink:

[Shiny]

Yeah and so did Super Mario Bros. ( theres a good story for you ) :rolleyes2
Super Mario Brothers was a great game, but it wasn't an rpg so it didn't have to have a great story. Just had to have great gameplay which it did.


it was the game that made FF big in the US. Exactly.


Convuluted piece of crap? All FF7's story was this: me chasing a chibi model Sephiroth around the world as block that passed for a man, with cones sticking out of his head. Along the way I meet more chibi squares that pass for humans, and I listen to all the cheesy dialogue till the end... It was 1997 please! The graphics were fine back then. And all FF's have cheesy dialogue...6...7...8...9...10 need I go on? Didn't think so.


You dont have to think that FF8's story was good. But FF7's was a recycled cliche of a story compared to FF8. Save the world, heh...heh...Thats original...
Um hello? A anti-social, anti-hero who becomes a leader and knight and saves the damsal in distress. That is VERY cliche. And it even had a happy ending aw how sweet. *gag*

[~SapphireStar~]

And it even had a happy ending aw how sweet.
Depends on what theorys you believe. The theory I believe in doesnt have a happy ending.

[Shiny]

Depends on what theorys you believe. The theory I believe in doesnt have a happy ending.
There is no theory. The game clearly shows that everyone is having fun at the party. Raijin, Fuijin and Seifer are goofing around while fishing. Rinoa finds Squall and after the party they make out. Happy Ending...no one dies and viewers aren't left with suspense like in 7.

[Noj_R]

Super Mario Brothers was a great game, but it wasn't an rpg so it didn't have to have a great story. Just had to have great gameplay which it did.

FF8 had great gameplay AND good story...What you talking about?


It was 1997 please! The graphics were fine back then. And all FF's have cheesy dialogue...6...7...8...9...10 need I go on? Didn't think so.

Whoa, I agree. All the FFs have cheesy dialogue, but I noticed that FF6 and FF7 were the worst offenders. FF8 and FF9 werent nearly as bad. FF10 just had bad voice actors, and they should implant voice acting in anymore.


Um hello? A anti-social, anti-hero who becomes a leader and knight and saves the damsal in distress. That is VERY cliche. And it even had a happy ending aw how sweet. *gag*

Your right this is a reused tale too. But I guess that makes both games cliches then...And why do you have to mock FF8's story because it centers on love? Love is a great thing and it was nice to see the story focus on something other than " my swords bigger...heh heh".

The bottom line is this: I couldnt take the game seriously, I can take cheesy lines ::cough:: RE4 ::cough::, but combined with cheesy graphics as well, I laughed so many times. I saw parts of AC and the anime FF7, both looked awesome :) , they really captured the "feel" of what FF7 is like. And that "feeling" is what was missing for me in FF7...

[Shiny]

FF8 had great gameplay AND good story...What you talking about?
What are you talking about? You mentioned Super Mario Brothers randomly.




Whoa, I agree. All the FFs have cheesy dialogue, but I noticed that FF6 and FF7 were the worst offenders. FF8 and FF9 werent nearly as bad. FF10 just had bad voice actors, and they should implant voice acting in anymore.
Are you kidding me? FF9 was horrible with that crap. But don't even get me started on that. The only thing I can remember in 7 as being cheesy is some of Cloud's lines... "Let's Mosey"...other then that is wasn't as bad as some of the others. 8's dialougue wasn't that bad. Still some cheesyness factors though. I guess that's what happens when stuff gets translated into english.




Your right this is a reused tale too. But I guess that makes both games cliches then...And why do you have to mock FF8's story because it centers on love? Love is a great thing and it was nice to see the story focus on something other than " my swords bigger...heh heh".
Love? Bah! Give me big swords.;) :)



The bottom line is this: I couldnt take the game seriously, I can take cheesy lines ::cough:: RE4 ::cough :laugh: Finally! I thought I was the only one who thought a four year old was writing that dialogue.

[~SapphireStar~]

There is no theory. The game clearly shows that everyone is having fun at the party. Raijin, Fuijin and Seifer are goofing around while fishing. Rinoa finds Squall and after the party they make out. Happy Ending...no one dies and viewers aren't left with suspense like in 7.
How do you know all that? And dont go all wise arse and say "I completed it", cause the theory I believe is that it wasnt a happy ending. Squall dies, Riona becomes Ultimecia and hates everything because her true love died and she was left alone. The party is her fantasy, a dream Rinoa creates. Thats the theory I believe. And no, it isnt something Ive just made up, I read about this theory sometime ago and its the one I chose to believe.

She finds Squall who is either dead or very close to death she takes him to the real world (They are in the flower filed again) and we then see the garden. And finally we see that Squall has either been revied or just saved (As if he wasn't dead yet but close).
This is what I was talking about. But I still believe Squall died and the ending is Rinoas fantasy.

If you buy into crackpot fan theories, Squall actually did die during the time compression, which is why at the end when the camera looks out to see Rinoa it looks like she's standing by herself, because she's gone crazy and is only imagining Squall is there. I find this to be a much more rewarding ending.
I also found:

Unlike FF7, there is a finished ending here. Seifer reunites with Fujin and Raijin, taking up a life of fishing in Balamb. Selphie finally gets to hold the Garden festival, which is a big success. Laguna visits the grave of his dead wife Raine and reminisces on their wedding. Zell finally gets hot dogs, and Squall and Rinoa finally kiss. But we still have some aspects to clear. Theory: Even with the finished ending, there always is that question. Does Rinoa become Ultimecia. If time travel rules are set, than Squall must die, and Rinoa must become evil. Otherwise it would be senseless for there to be White SeeDs in the future (remember those bodies outside the castle and Ultimecia's constant complaints), keeping in mind that SeeDs are used to defeat sorceresses. Either way, something happens in the future and it ain't pretty.

[Lost Number]

Seems a little far fetched. I take the simple route and say that it was a happy ending up until all shown. What happened after, I leave to fate and Future Esthar.

[Yuffie514]

no, i liked Final Fantasy VIII better than Final Fantasy VII. 8 can be a bad number but Final Fantasy VIII is always a grand subject to talk about, to play, and to hear about.

[Shiny]

How do you know all that? And dont go all wise arse and say "I completed it"
I completed it! :D


Thats the theory I believe. And no, it isnt something Ive just made up, I read about this theory sometime ago and its the one I chose to believe.
The game that I played never mentions or hints on any of that so it automacially leaves viewers to assume that the ending that Square ended with (the happy one) was how they wanted to end the story period. Most of theories people come up with on this site...they're so into it too it's hilarious. It's just a game people. It's like reading a book. Once the book is at it's conclusion it's over. Period. Unless there is a sequel. Which even Square said that that would not be likely.

[~SapphireStar~]

So let people decide on what they want to, instead of

There is no theory.
And only 1 of those sources was from this forum, the others are from sites. Let people chose what they want to believe ok? You may think its stupid, but people like thinking outside the box, whilst others prefer to finish something and wipe their hands of it.

[Lost Number]

To each their own, but seriously, some of these are ridiculous. Nothin against R=U or anythin, some theories.

[Shiny]

And only 1 of those sources was from this forum, the others are from sites. Let people chose what they want to believe ok? You may think its stupid, but people like thinking outside the box, whilst others prefer to finish something and wipe their hands of it.
I didn't say your "theory" was stupid honestly I would have wanted it to end that way. Atleast Square wouldn't be trying to go for the cliche hero saves the day stuff. But there really isn't a theory, otherwise they would have put it in. Not much thinking in this game like some of the others I've played that purposely leave things left unsaid. This one was pretty clear cut with the ending.

[~SapphireStar~]

I know you didnt say my theory was stupid, I never said you did. I just said you may think some theorys are stupid. Im too tired to argue, I have Uni at 9.

[Shiny]

I know you didnt say my theory was stupid, I never said you did. I just said you may think some theorys are stupid.
...That's the same thing.:eep: Anyway, back to what I like better. Which is 7. :D

[Noj_R]

The R=U theory has been disproved in the " is rinoa really you know who " thread. In there I have provided evidence disproving it. There is no proof for the R=U theory anyway. Ultimecia is simply an evil witch hellbent on world domnitation. Why is that so hard to understand?



Unlike FF7, there is a finished ending here. Seifer reunites with Fujin and Raijin, taking up a life of fishing in Balamb. Selphie finally gets to hold the Garden festival, which is a big success. Laguna visits the grave of his dead wife Raine and reminisces on their wedding. Zell finally gets hot dogs, and Squall and Rinoa finally kiss. But we still have some aspects to clear. Theory: Even with the finished ending, there always is that question. Does Rinoa become Ultimecia. Spoiler: If time travel rules are set, than Squall must die, and Rinoa must become evil. Otherwise it would be senseless for there to be White SeeDs in the future (remember those bodies outside the castle and Ultimecia's constant complaints), keeping in mind that SeeDs are used to defeat sorceresses. Either way, something happens in the future and it ain't pretty.

The White Seeds were NOT trained to defeat the sorcerress, they were trained to protect Ellone. Normal Seeds are trained to defeat the sorceress but the White Seeds were trained for this special purpose. This has been taken out of context.

It makes no sense why Squall would die. Why would he? Why cant Ultimecia simply be herself. The game is not this complex. Rinoa is Rinoa, Ulti is Ulti. Square has said Sorceresses live normal lifespans, so she cant be Rinoa...

But that all means FF8 is the best! :D

[Fonzie]

Can't call Sqaure Enis anymore to ask the R=U theory. They got pissed off that time i ordered 500 pizza's to their main building.:mad:

[Noj_R]

Can't call Sqaure Enis anymore to ask the R=U theory. They got pissed off that time i ordered 500 pizza's to their main building.:mad:

Square Enix was called about this years ago. It is also in the FF8 ultimania guide I believe. But seriously The R=U theory belongs in the R=U threads where it can be disproved for the hundredth time.:rolleyes2
FF8 is da bomb :cool:

[*~Angel Wing~*]

Noj_R...I LOVE YOU!!! :kaolove2: :heart: :kaolove: I agree 100% on everything you have posted in this thread so far...

[Noj_R]

Noj_R...I LOVE YOU!!! :kaolove2: :heart: :kaolove: I agree 100% on everything you have posted in this thread so far...

Lets do lunch sometime...:D

[*~Angel Wing~*]

Lets do lunch sometime...:D
PM me and I'll see when I'm free...;)

[blackline77]

FVIII is the best (ahahahah)

[Noj_R]

PM me and I'll see when I'm free...;)

Lol, ok. :D

[~SapphireStar~]

Guys do that crap elsewhere and Im fully aware where the Rinoa disscusions go, I was asking what ending someone prefered, then I had to back up what I said. FFVIII all the way no matter what anyone says to me.

[Lost Number]

...so why post here? This is disscussion, where there is two sides.

[~SapphireStar~]

...so why post here? This is disscussion, where there is two sides.
Really? Didnt know that. I said that I prefer 8 to 7. A bunch of people on a forum isnt going to change my mind is it? I posted my answer, hence the reason I posted. Problem?

[Lost Number]

No. Question, for which an answer has been forthcoming. Problem?

[~SapphireStar~]

No. Question, do you always have your head up your arse? Problem?

This constitues flaming and is just plain rude. Don't do it. ~ Leeza

[The Devourer Of Worlds]

OH SNAP!

Moving on, both games are pretty much equal in my books. FFVIII had a better plot, better gameplay and amazing FMVs, but FFVII had better characters and minigames.

Meh, if I had to choose, probably FFVIII.

[YTDN]

I prefer VII, mostly because I don't find the good guys perfect and the bad guys, well bad. I dun like it when the good people are completely good and the bad guys are completely evil. The main hereo of VII, Cloud, had problems. He basically worked for the bad guy at a few parts. compare with Squall. Yeah he's depressed. But otherwise he's completely good and perfect. And I prefer Sephiroth as a Villian to Ultimecia. Sephirot is evil for a reason (Kinda) but Ultimecia doesn't have much of a reason to be evil, and not much of an evil motive. And VII's plot made me cry the most.

That's my opinion. Boy am I gonna piss people off.

[TurkSlayer]

Man, I really don't see what you people seem to in FFVIII. The story was rather cliche, the characters were bland, the battle system was awful, and it was really just a very boring game. The only things in the game I liked were Quistis, Irvine, and..... Yeah, that's about it.

[*~Angel Wing~*]

Man, I really don't see what you people seem to in FFVIII. The story was rather cliche, the characters were bland, the battle system was awful, and it was really just a very boring game. The only things in the game I liked were Quistis, Irvine, and..... Yeah, that's about it.
...and I don't see what's so good about FFVII...See I thought that 7 had the bad characters, awful battle system, and was EXTREMELY boring...I couldn't wait for it to be over!!! :eep: I can barely think of a few times that game actually made me excited...:kaoindif:...and FFVIII was the TOTAL opposite!!! :kaohappy2

[Shiny]

And I prefer Sephiroth as a Villian to Ultimecia. Sephirot is evil for a reason (Kinda) but Ultimecia doesn't have much of a reason to be evil, and not much of an evil motive.
Yeah, Ultimecia wasn't given a motive like most villians and heros should be given. FF8 leaves alot of plot holes in the storyline.

Man, I really don't see what you people seem to in FFVIII. The story was rather cliche, the characters were bland, the battle system was awful, and it was really just a very boring game. The only things in the game I liked were Quistis, Irvine, and..... Yeah, that's about it.
I pretty much agree with everything except I didn't like Quistis, she was one of those bland characters you mentioned. And Irvine was just phony. Constantly trying to be someone he's not.

...and I don't see what's so good about FFVII...See I thought that 7 had the bad characters, awful battle system, and was EXTREMELY boring...I couldn't wait for it to be over!!! :eep: I can barely think of a few times that game actually made me excited...:kaoindif:...and FFVIII was the TOTAL opposite!!! :kaohappy2
Uh huh. Yet, you're buying the FF7 soundtrack. :rolleyes2

[abrojtm]

I like most FF games better than FFVIII.

[*~Angel Wing~*]

Uh huh. Yet, you're buying the FF7 soundtrack. :rolleyes2
I will have to admit, the only good thing about FFVII was the soundtrack. NOT AS GOOD AS FFVIII's THOUGH!!! :D Everything else pretty much sucked...:eep:

[Shiny]

I will have to admit, the only good thing about FFVII was the soundtrack. NOT AS GOOD AS FFVIII's THOUGH!!! :D Everything else pretty much sucked...:eep:
First you say nothing is good in it then you change your mind. But can not face the reality that 7 is a great rpg. Period..whether you liked it (eventhough you didn't finish it) or not. :tongue:

[*~Angel Wing~*]

First you say nothing is good in it then you change your mind. But can not face the reality that 7 is a great rpg. Period..whether you liked it (eventhough you didn't finish it) or not. :tongue:
I forgot about the soundtrack and it was GOOD...and FFVII wasn't great in my opinion...and I DID finish the game for your information!!! :rolleyes2 (not like it was worth finishing...:D )

[Noj_R]

I forgot about the soundtrack and it was OKAY...and FFVII wasn't great in my opinion...and I DID finish the game for your information!!! :rolleyes2 (not like it was worth finishing...:D )

Everything she said.

The game was boring, but the FF7 anime wasnt, I must admit. If you havent seen it, you should, just type "FF7 last order" at youtube.com. The game was boring, but the anime was actually very good. It was the FF7 I always wished it could be. After all, I REALLY wanted to like FF7, but I couldnt.

Anyway, yeah I love FF7's soundtrack. Has some awesome tracks, but thats all I like in the game.

[Shiny]

This is kind of off topic, but shouldn't this thread be moved to general chat?
Noj_R go watch Advent Children or something. Get yo self 7-nized.

[Lychon]

ur probably right but I was just curious...


Nah, it's just my thoughts whenever I see posts like this, but it has spawned an interesting discussion so kudos.

By the way, I don't like the fact that GameFan is quoted as saying "quite possible the greatest game ever made" on the back of FFVII. Sometimes I just want to find those guys and beat the crap out of them, hehe.

Well those are my two cents.

[Lychon]

man this thread is long...
i thought everyone would throw tantrums at me because I don't like ff7.
lol


Maybe when 8 had just come out, and the FF7 fanboys began proliferating all kinds of crap about it on the internet. But nowadays, VIII has definetely become one of the most talked about and appreciated additions to the Final Fantasy universe.

[audsley]

i know i'm sayin this at a random time but the only time I enjoyed ff7 was in Disc1. then disc 2 made me snap the disc then my friend got me a new one then I got so angry I got it back! it was like it was haunting me...

[audsley]

Lol, ok. :D
im sorry but Noj_R is my BF miss "angel wing". right.. Noj_R

[Lychon]

i know i'm sayin this at a random time but the only time I enjoyed ff7 was in Disc1. then disc 2 made me snap the disc then my friend got me a new one then I got so angry I got it back! it was like it was haunting me...


OH, SNAP!!

[Noj_R]

This is kind of off topic, but shouldn't this thread be moved to general chat?
Noj_R go watch Advent Children or something. Get yo self 7-nized.

I have beaten FF7, watched FF7 Last Order, and I watched Cloud pummel Sephiroth in AC ( didnt watch the whole movie though ). How's that for someone who doesnt even like the game? :tongue:


OH, SNAP!!

:eep:


im sorry but Noj_R is my BF miss "angel wing". right.. Noj_R

umm...You are all my friends! :D

[daniel kid]

yes

[Lady Selphie]

FFVIII better than FFVII

[Alexander]

This is kind of off topic, but shouldn't this thread be moved to general chat?
Noj_R go watch Advent Children or something. Get yo self 7-nized.

Actually, it was Advent Children that put me (and some other people) in a "Hate VII!" phase. So, AC won't 7-nize most FFVII's "haters" (well, they don't like it x.x)

[*~Angel Wing~*]

Anyway, yeah I love FF7's soundtrack. Has some awesome tracks, but thats all I like in the game.
Yeah that's basically all I liked about the game...oh and The Turks too!!! Without the soundtrack and The Turks, FFVII would have been nothing!!! (not like it was much of anything to begin with...:D ) The only scenes I actually REALLY liked were:

~ When we were in Don Coreno's pimp house :laugh:

~ When we meet Don again in the Yuffie sub-quest, and The Turks come & Reno disses him & kicks him off the cliff :laugh:

~ When Aeris gets stabbed through the stomach by Sephiroth...oh yeah...that was sweet... :laugh:

~ ...and basically any scene with The Turks :D (not like there were in many though...:mad: )


im sorry but Noj_R is my BF miss "angel wing". right.. Noj_R
Sorry..I didn't know...:(


umm...You are all my friends! :D
Thanks!!! :grinpink: You're my friend too!!! :kaohappy2

[Shiny]

Maybe when 8 had just come out, and the FF7 fanboys began proliferating all kinds of crap about it on the internet. But nowadays, VIII has definetely become one of the most talked about and appreciated additions to the Final Fantasy universe.
Yeah, one of the most the other is...hm..I think I forgot. Not. It's FF7 ofcourse. (Probably FF10 as well. )

I forgot about the soundtrack and it was GOOD...and FFVII wasn't great in my opinion...and I DID finish the game for your information!!! :rolleyes2 (not like it was worth finishing...:D )
You did not finish the game. Moving on, to other thing you stated is when you said the characters were horrible when I hear you going on and on about Vincent and Reno. Just admit it it's a great game. Besides, you would have never played Final Fantasy if it wasn't for me.

[Noj_R]

FF8 is better than FF7, because Squall is in fact more powerful than Cloud. :D Yes, weep for it is true.

Squall's renzokuken lionheart attack does WAY more damage than Cloud's omnislash. Well...?


im sorry but Noj_R is my BF miss "angel wing". right.. Noj_R

I dont have a GF...:rolleyes2

[Emery]

FF8>>>>FF7, FF8 any day.

[*~Angel Wing~*]

Yeah, one of the most the other is...hm..I think I forgot. Not. It's FF7 ofcourse. (Probably FF10 as well. )

You did not finish the game. Moving on, to other thing you stated is when you said the characters were horrible when I hear you going on and on about Vincent and Reno. Just admit it it's a great game. Besides, you would have never played Final Fantasy if it wasn't for me.
I DID FINISH THE GAME!!! :hot: AND I started playing Final Fantasy ON MY OWN!!! I decided I wanted to play it after I found out Squall was in FFVIII, cause I liked him so much from Kingdom Hearts, and that's where it all began...I admit I recall hearing you talking about it, but you never influenced me on the decision to actually play it. That was ALL ME!!! :grinpink: And stop changing the subject, and stop trying to act like you're superior to everyone.

[kikimm]

Both of you, especially Shiny_Griever -knock it off. Keep this on topic. Maybe you should discuss this somewhere outside of EoFF.

[AdVincent]

If I play both of them right now, FF8 is definitely better because it's more modern and advanced.

But FF7 had a bigger impact then FF8 when I first played. Meaning...I played FF7 first, was AMAZED, played FF8 was amazed, but not as much shock factor as FF7 because that was just the standard. FF8 was just the improvement.

[Shiny]

...Okay then....7 is better end of discussion. On topic enough?

[*~Angel Wing~*]

...Okay then....7 is better end of discussion. On topic enough?
...That's basically the only thing you've said in this entire thread!!! :eep: You were annoyed at people in the begining of this thread for just saying "FFVIII is the best!!!" and giving no reasons, and yet you're doing it now for FFVII. Why don't you give us some actual reasons why you think it's so better, because I would really like to know what's so special about it.

[Alexander]

...That's basically the only thing you've said in this entire thread!!! :eep: You were annoyed at people in the begining of this thread for just saying "FFVIII is the best!!!" and giving no reasons, and yet you're doing it now for FFVII. Why don't you give us some actual reasons why you think it's so better, because I would really like to know what's so special about it.

Even though I don't really love VIII, I agree with her. What's so good at VII? For me, it is just a piece of cheese.

[Relena]

There will never be a game that's perfect. We all like different things, and different kinds of games. The only perfect game for you would only be if you made it yourself perfectly how you want it. Both games had flaws. Like I typed before: No game is perfect. Sadly.:(

[Lost Number]

FF8 had some of the most inovative ideas in FF since ATB. However, so did FF XI and XII. These are being critisiced for being different or inovative in some way. XI for bein online, XII for removing the random battle.

[*~Angel Wing~*]

There will never be a game that's perfect. We all like different things, and different kinds of games. The only perfect game for you would only be if you made it yourself perfectly how you want it. Both games had flaws. Like I typed before: No game is perfect. Sadly.:(
We know no game is perfect...:rolleyes2 Final Fantasy VIII is my favorite game, but no, it's not perfect. (close to it though...:D ) This is a matter of which one you liked more, not which one was perfect. Nobody ever metioned that either was "perfect".

[a nirvana fan]

I personally think FF7 is better than FF8, but FF8 is just as good as 7 but FF7 just has something that FF8 does not.

[Shiny]

I personally think FF7 is better than FF8, but FF8 is just as good as 7 but FF7 just has something that FF8 does not.
I agree, both a great games. 7 is just better and I've already stated my reasons why in the above post.

[*~Angel Wing~*]

I personally think FF7 is better than FF8, but FF8 is just as good as 7 but FF7 just has something that FF8 does not.
I personally thought FFVIII had A LOT more than FFVII...I'm sorry but the whole thing was WAAAY too predictable!!! :eep: Especially the ending...come on, it's obvious that the meteor would be destroyed, and Sephiroth would be defeated. But what I REALLY hated was that Cloud & Tifa never confessed their love for each other!!! :mad2: I mean, I was never really into the game, but that is what made me dislike it even more...

ALL YOU NEED IS LOVE!!! :kaolove2: :kaolove:

[Alexander]

Also, the "CLoud blasts Sephy with Omnislash" thing in the end is CHEESY. WAY CHEESY.

Plus, even in FFVIII you feel attached to some characters. Even I, that used to hate this game deeply (well, I still hate Squall o_o) got pretty emotional after you defeat Raijin and Fujin by the first time. The whole "Seifer has followers, but we are his only friends" thing.

In FFVII, I can't feel attached to anyone. I can't really cry about Aeris' death (actually it is the opposite), or when Cait Sith blasts himself to help the party. Or any emotional scene at that game. FFVII is just like a bad movie: you watch, you want to know the ending, even if it is bad, and etc, you watch it until the very end. After the ending, you don't care about the movie anymore. It is same with FFVII, IMO.

[audsley]

Sorry..I didn't know...:(

lol I was kidding

[audsley]

...That's basically the only thing you've said in this entire thread!!! :eep: You were annoyed at people in the begining of this thread for just saying "FFVIII is the best!!!" and giving no reasons, and yet you're doing it now for FFVII. Why don't you give us some actual reasons why you think it's so better, because I would really like to know what's so special about it.

ANGEL WING AND NOJ R RULE!!!
your thoughts on ff8 beat everyone else's!

[audsley]

I dont have a GF...:rolleyes2

You don't have a Guardian Force or a Girlfriend?
lol when I read that I thought you were completely lost in ff8 caus' you had no Guardian Force.
LOLZZZ!!!

[Noj_R]

ANGEL WING AND NOJ R RULE!!!
your thoughts on ff8 beat everyone else's!

Yeah, but you rock too Audsley... :)


You don't have a Guardian Force or a Girlfriend?
lol when I read that I thought you were completely lost in ff8 caus' you had no Guardian Force.
LOLZZZ!!!

A FF8 pro like me lost? No way! :cool:
And no, I do not have a girlfriend...:cry:

[Lychon]

...Okay then....7 is better end of discussion. On topic enough?

I like comedy. But seriously, 8 is the best game ever made and best "fictional" work of all-time. Since the truth is out, we can NOW end the discussion. :D

[Setzer Gabianni]

My arse. Let's take this outside. FFVII is victoriouso! However...FFVIII > CC + X2 ;P

[jorge]

FF8 PC has the best graphics, sounds, and cheats. I don't care about story, gameplay. Cheats will solve the battle system problem.

FF8 PC is better
FF7 graphics and sounds are ..... FF7 focus on stories. I really hate and tired of Reading, Books, TV, and other crap. This is just a game, we want more gameplay and fight more bosses, enemies

[Alexander]

FF8 PC has the best graphics, sounds, and cheats. I don't care about story, gameplay. Cheats will solve the battle system problem.

FF8 PC is better
FF7 graphics and sounds are ..... FF7 focus on stories. I really hate and tired of Reading, Books, TV, and other crap. This is just a game, we want more gameplay and fight more bosses, enemies

No, we want history. This is an RPG. History is much more important tha graphics.

And if you slove problems with cheating, so your statment is worth nothing... cheater @_@;

[Death Penalty]

This question is stupid the real question is will there be a tape of the
Audsley and Angel~Wing cat-fight looming in the future.:jokey:

[*~Angel Wing~*]

ANGEL WING AND NOJ R RULE!!!
your thoughts on ff8 beat everyone else's!
THANK YOU!!! :grinpink: I really appreciate that. I'm just posting how I really feel, and I think everyone here has good thoughts. (well...maybe most people...:D ) And as Noj_R has also stated...YOU ROCK TOO!!! :kaocheer:


I like comedy. But seriously, 8 is the best game ever made and best "fictional" work of all-time. Since the truth is out, we can NOW end the discussion. :D
lol yes, the discussion is over. :D


This question is stupid the real question is will there be a tape of the
Audsley and Angel~Wing cat-fight looming in the future. :jokey:
Stay tuned folks...you never know what can happen...:D ;) We're not releasing that tape to the public anyway, only Noj_R can see it cause he's part of the fight. And let me tell you, it's pretty hot!!! Right Noj_R? :D :laugh: ;)

[Emery]

Man, my first Final Fantasy was FFVII, and I looooved it, I played it till the end and all and I still loved it. Then I wanted to get into the series, so next I bought FFVIII, and I have to say I liked it more. Just the fact that I could connect to the characters more than in FFVII, and even tho FFVII is still one of my favorites, FFVIII is just like my ultimate favorite. Also true, about the fact that Cloud doesnt admit his love for Tifa, its just like. OMFG DUDE ADMIT IT ALREADY. And also the grpx are a wayy bigger improvement in FFVIII, and it seems more realistic. I basicly just connected with the FFVIII characters, and in my opinion they actually showed emotions, not that FFVII didnt, but I would say it didnt show as much. Whatever anyways FFVIII ROCKS !!!:love: :love: :love: :love:

[Noj_R]

Stay tuned folks...you never know what can happen...:D ;) We're not releasing that tape to the public anyway, only Noj_R can see it cause he's part of the fight. And let me tell you, it's pretty hot!!! Right Noj_R? :D :laugh: ;)

Yeah, and I win! :p

[Lychon]

Yeah, and I win! :p


I'll give you $50 for it. And another $50 if you can get me the original tape of One Night in Paris :cool: ....:D

[Noj_R]

I'll give you $50 for it. And another $50 if you can get me the original tape of One Night in Paris :cool: ....:D

oooh....money! :excited:

[Setzer Gabianni]

My arse. Let's take this outside. FFVII is victoriouso! However...FFVIII > CC + X2 ;P

I will quote myself again! Stand up to me and fight!

~Setzer Gabianni

[Lost Number]

Anytime.

[Death Penalty]

Anytime.
Thats an ass whoopin setzer ya scurred.

[Setzer Gabianni]

Thats an ass whoopin setzer ya scurred.

Translation please, not sure what that meant!

~Setzer Gabianni

[Death Penalty]

You challenged anyone to a fight Quartermain took up the offer and I said you are gonna get yourASS wooped. You understand now or do I have to draw it out and make graphs.

[Lost Number]

You challenged anyone to a fight Quartermain took up the offer and I said you are gonna get yourASS wooped. You understand now or do I have to draw it out and make graphs.
Quartermaster.

[Noj_R]

Im a gunblade specialist, so I automatically wipe you guys off the map. FF8 rules! :cool:

[*~Angel Wing~*]

Man, my first Final Fantasy was FFVII, and I looooved it, I played it till the end and all and I still loved it. Then I wanted to get into the series, so next I bought FFVIII, and I have to say I liked it more. Just the fact that I could connect to the characters more than in FFVII, and even tho FFVII is still one of my favorites, FFVIII is just like my ultimate favorite. Also true, about the fact that Cloud doesnt admit his love for Tifa, its just like. OMFG DUDE ADMIT IT ALREADY. And also the grpx are a wayy bigger improvement in FFVIII, and it seems more realistic. I basicly just connected with the FFVIII characters, and in my opinion they actually showed emotions, not that FFVII didnt, but I would say it didnt show as much. Whatever anyways FFVIII ROCKS !!!:love: :love: :love: :love:
EXACTLY!!! :kaohappy2 I felt the same way!!! :kaolove2:


I'll give you $50 for it. And another $50 if you can get me the original tape of One Night in Paris :cool: ....:D
LOL :laugh: That one is X rated though...;) :D

[Noj_R]

LOL :laugh: That one is X rated though...;) :D

Yeah, but I want some money... ::looks around with greedy intentions::

[*~Angel Wing~*]

Yeah, but I want some money... ::looks around with greedy intentions::
Hey, I won't tell if you don't...;) :D

[Noj_R]

Hey, I won't tell if you don't...;) :D

Ok, we'll start our own " under the table-selling videos-club thing". It will be secret of course...:shifty:

[Dreddz]

FFVII > FFVIII

Reasons :
Better main cast, Better OST, Materia brought alot more stratergy, Didnt have a daft system ( monsters leveling with you ), FFVII had a better story, sure FFVIII's did have a pretty good story but FFVII's brought plot twists and such makiing you want to play more, also FFVII's over all world has more story with all the sequels FFVII is getting.

[*~Angel Wing~*]

Ok, we'll start our own " under the table-selling videos-club thing". It will be secret of course...:shifty:
That sounds great!!! :kaohappy2 I need a few extra bucks...:D

FFVII > FFVIII

Reasons :
Better main cast, Better OST, Materia brought alot more stratergy, Didnt have a daft system ( monsters leveling with you ), FFVII had a better story, sure FFVIII's did have a pretty good story but FFVII's brought plot twists and such makiing you want to play more, also FFVII's over all world has more story with all the sequels FFVII is getting.
FFVII had a stinky main cast, materia was a pain in the ass, sucky story that was WAAAY too predictable, and hardly interested me that I had to force myself to play it!!! :kaodizzy: All the Final Fantasy games are all over the world, and FFX was the first FF game to get a sequel so I guess FFVII wasn't the most special then. ;) And lastly, FFVIII DIDN'T need a sequel, it was PERFECT the way it was. :kaolove2:

[GreenTea]

FFVIII.

Cos' I suck under those timer conditions. And the 10 minutes thing in the very, very first section of Disc 1 of FFVII was a total killer (for my characters and my will to continue the game). And my fingers haven't even warmed up during those 10 minutes yet.

[Setzer Gabianni]

That sounds great!!! :kaohappy2 I need a few extra bucks...:D

FFVII had a stinky main cast, materia was a pain in the ass, sucky story that was WAAAY too predictable, and hardly interested me that I had to force myself to play it!!! :kaodizzy: All the Final Fantasy games are all over the world, and FFX was the first FF game to get a sequel so I guess FFVII wasn't the most special then. ;) And lastly, FFVIII DIDN'T need a sequel, it was PERFECT the way it was. :kaolove2:

1. Stinky main cast? At least they werent rejects who practically from the same damn orphange.

2. Way too predictable? FFVIII was also, as with every other FF! ZOMG, HEROES GO AND FIGHT TEH EVILNEESSS LAWL. *coughs* I'm right.

3.They made a fuck up with that sequel, x-2. It was about Yuna complaining about not having her Tidusy with her :cry: /sarcasm

4.The only reason why FFVIII doesn't get a sequel is because it's not worth it - FFVII still had a lot of stuff to be cleared up - BC is sorting out the whole Turk history, I think, LO was mostly about Zack, AC...let's skip that, that was just fanservice for cloud fans. DC is uncovering more about Vincent Valentine, because his story was very important, and for some God for saken reason, he was made a secret character.

5.I'm done, come on come on give me some trashtalking :love:

~Setzer Gabianni

[Noj_R]

1. Stinky main cast? At least they werent rejects who practically from the same damn orphange.

2. Way too predictable? FFVIII was also, as with every other FF! ZOMG, HEROES GO AND FIGHT TEH EVILNEESSS LAWL. *coughs* I'm right.

3.They made a smurf up with that sequel, x-2. It was about Yuna complaining about not having her Tidusy with her :cry: /sarcasm

4.The only reason why FFVIII doesn't get a sequel is because it's not worth it - FFVII still had a lot of stuff to be cleared up - BC is sorting out the whole Turk history, I think, LO was mostly about Zack, AC...let's skip that, that was just fanservice for cloud fans. DC is uncovering more about Vincent Valentine, because his story was very important, and for some God for saken reason, he was made a secret character.

5.I'm done, come on come on give me some trashtalking :love:

~Setzer Gabianni

Haha! I will be the one trashtalking! :D

1. Rejects? FF8 has real people with real problems to face, thats what makes them some of the most real characters in an FF. Cloud was just as "cold" as Squall ever was, "As soon as this job is over, Im gone!" wow, :rolleyes2 and people complain that Squall is rude. Plus, FF8 doesnt have an indian tiger thing and a robot cat riding a stuffed moogle ( how weird is that ). I dont want to diss the FF7 cast, but cmon quit dissin my favorite characters first. They arent rejects :eep:

2. I have to agree that all FF's are predictable, but what FF8 did was take the primary focus off of the bad guy and to focus on the love between Squall and Rinoa.

3.The only REAL reason FF8 doesnt have a sequel, is because there is nothing else to tell. FF8 ended perfectly, there was no plot holes, whining characters ( name some in FF7 ), everything wrapped up perfectly. Why mar a tightly finished masterpiece with a second rate sequel. The reason FF7 needs sequels is because the character development was so poor in FF7 that they need two more games and two more movies to explain them.

5. enguard! :fencing:

[Death Penalty]

Haha! I will be the one trashtalking! :D

1. Rejects? FF8 has real people with real problems to face, thats what makes them some of the most real characters in an FF. Cloud was just as "cold" as Squall ever was, "As soon as this job is over, Im gone!" wow, :rolleyes2 and people complain that Squall is rude. Plus, FF8 doesnt have an indian tiger thing and a robot cat riding a stuffed moogle ( how weird is that ). I dont want to diss the FF7 cast, but cmon quit dissin my favorite characters first. They arent rejects :eep:

2. I have to agree that all FF's are predictable, but what FF8 did was take the primary focus off of the bad guy and to focus on the love between Squall and Rinoa.

3.The only REAL reason FF8 doesnt have a sequel, is because there is nothing else to tell. FF8 ended perfectly, there was no plot holes, whining characters ( name some in FF7 ), everything wrapped up perfectly. Why mar a tightly finished masterpiece with a second rate sequel. The reason FF7 needs sequels is because the character development was so poor in FF7 that they need two more games and two more movies to explain them.

5. enguard! :fencing:
1 They were a bunch of idiots who couldnt even remember they went to the same orphanage. Yeah I am sure theyr real popular NEXT
2 Worst romance game I have ever played. Quistis who I have to say is much sexier gets thrown away and The Slut Rinoa gets the angsty bishonen NO I DONT THINK SO NEXT
3 Dont make me laugh. FF8 was so bad they had to end it otherwise fanboys like Future Esthar would be demanding a sequel. The charachters in that game whined so much it made me puke FF7 needed a sequel cus it was made for one. NEXT
5 Touche NEXT:cool:

[Shiny]

1. Stinky main cast? At least they werent rejects who practically from the same damn orphange.

2. Way too predictable? FFVIII was also, as with every other FF! ZOMG, HEROES GO AND FIGHT TEH EVILNEESSS LAWL. *coughs* I'm right.

3.They made a smurf up with that sequel, x-2. It was about Yuna complaining about not having her Tidusy with her :cry: /sarcasm

4.The only reason why FFVIII doesn't get a sequel is because it's not worth it - FFVII still had a lot of stuff to be cleared up - BC is sorting out the whole Turk history, I think, LO was mostly about Zack, AC...let's skip that, that was just fanservice for cloud fans. DC is uncovering more about Vincent Valentine, because his story was very important, and for some God for saken reason, he was made a secret character.

5.I'm done, come on come on give me some trashtalking :love:

~Setzer Gabianni
Oh my eventhough I loved FFX and most of it's characters I have to admit Square was high when they were making X-2...it was horrible. I couldn't help but laugh everytime one the characters opened their mouth. The characters for 7 didn't suck (cept' Yuffie) some of them could have been more developed but then again that's what Advent Children is for. Which by the way (I'm addressing several people now) is a sequel and 7 has many other games coming out for it, because it's so popular. Neither 10 or 8 can touch that. Oh by the way Noj_R the characters in 8 aren't real. ;)

[Noj_R]

I didnt say the characters in FF8 were real. I said they were the MOST real characters.

1. They couldnt remember the orphanage cause they were 6 when it happened and the GFs erase their memory. FF8 characters whining? Yeah maybe but what about Cloud. He was whining the whole beginning of FF7! " Dont tell me your names!:mad: " " When this jobs done, im gone!:mad: " Waah! Dont even start on saying FF8 characters are idiots, the characters in FF7 are just as bad if not worst.

2. How many other romance games have you played? I have no idea where people get the idea that Quistis is better, she was the biggest offender when it comes to whining in FF. " im not a good teacher", " maybe I should quit..." totally emo, and totally pathetic. What makes you think Rinoa is a slut, that is the lamest excuse, she doesnt sleep around or anything. Flirting isnt being a slut either if thats what you mean ( that would be ridiculous ).

3.FF7 needed a sequel cause the ending sucked. honestly, seeing holy take out meteor and everyone going " oooo" "aaaw", was just lame, plus the characters were way underdeveloped and needed to be explored more. FF8 doesnt need a sequel cause the ending tied EVERYTHING together perfectly.

4. AYE! landlubbers, avast! :fencing:

[Shiny]

I didnt say the characters in FF8 were real. I said they were the MOST real characters.
Incase you didn't notice (which you didn't) I was joking about that. Thus why I put the ;) .


1. They couldnt remember the orphanage cause they were 6 when it happened and the GFs erase their memory. FF8 characters whining? Yeah maybe but what about Cloud. He was whining the whole beginning of FF7! " Dont tell me your names!:mad: " " When this jobs done, im gone!:mad: " Waah! Dont even start on saying FF8 characters are idiots, the characters in FF7 are just as bad if not worst.
That wasn't whining that was a statement. He was simply telling them I don't want to work with you guys again. Here's a dictionary. *gives* :D


2. How many other romance games have you played? I have no idea where people get the idea that Quistis is better, she was the biggest offender when it comes to whining in FF. " im not a good teacher", " maybe I should quit..." totally emo, and totally pathetic. What makes you think Rinoa is a slut, that is the lamest excuse, she doesnt sleep around or anything. Flirting isnt being a slut either if thats what you mean ( that would be ridiculous ). Agreed, Quistis was a crappy character. They could have done better. Should have made her stand up to Squall. And Rinoa is...*ahem* how should I put this "special" with her "talent". She was with Seifer then turns around and dates his rival. That's ridiculous. Both are horrible characters. Quistis is just worst, because she lacked a personality.


3.FF7 needed a sequel cause the ending sucked. honestly, seeing holy take out meteor and everyone going " oooo" "aaaw", was just lame, plus the characters were way underdeveloped and needed to be explored more. FF8 doesnt need a sequel cause the ending tied EVERYTHING together perfectly.
People loved 7 so much they wanted more, but Square wanted to give 8 such a long ending, because they did not want to waste anymore time on it, or a sequel. That's my story and I'm sticking to it. :cool:

[Noj_R]

TIME OUT!

ok im not switching sides, but www.squaresound.com has the advent children version of "one winged angel" which is completely awesome! GO GET IT! its on the left side, right click and save. :D

TIME IN!

FF8 is just plain kickass, had a way better weopons. Cmon gunblades are WAY better than buster swords... : P

[Shiny]

FF8 is just plain kickass, had a way better weopons. Cmon gunblades are WAY better than buster swords... : P
I dunno...the bigger the better.:jokey:

[Noj_R]

I dunno...the bigger the better.:jokey:

The bigger the projectiles the better.... :jokey:

[*~Angel Wing~*]

1. Stinky main cast? At least they werent rejects who practically from the same damn orphange.

2. Way too predictable? FFVIII was also, as with every other FF! ZOMG, HEROES GO AND FIGHT TEH EVILNEESSS LAWL. *coughs* I'm right.

3.They made a smurf up with that sequel, x-2. It was about Yuna complaining about not having her Tidusy with her :cry: /sarcasm

4.The only reason why FFVIII doesn't get a sequel is because it's not worth it - FFVII still had a lot of stuff to be cleared up - BC is sorting out the whole Turk history, I think, LO was mostly about Zack, AC...let's skip that, that was just fanservice for cloud fans. DC is uncovering more about Vincent Valentine, because his story was very important, and for some God for saken reason, he was made a secret character.

5.I'm done, come on come on give me some trashtalking :love:

~Setzer Gabianni
Okay, here's my trash talk...:D

1. No, the FFVII cast were people with no personality. I wouldn't even call them people...they were SOOO emotionless. (except maybe Tifa) FFVIII cast weren't rejects. Just cause they came from the same orphanage doesn't mean that the FFVIII cast were rejects. Honestly, if you think FVIII cast was rejects, then FFVII cast is the dirt we walk on. I have never seen stinkier cast than them. There are a few exceptions though.

2. FVIII kept you guessing, with Ultimecia pocessing people and stuff, and Rinoa in a coma, and lots of other things. FFVII was all over the place, and when there was a problem, the answer to it was too predictable.

3. Doesn't matter if X-2 was a mess up or not. Square obviously thought it was good. It is 1st FF sequel whether it was bad or not. End of story.

4. FFVIII didn't need a sequel because IT WAS TERRIFIC THE WAY IT WAS!!! :kaohappy2 I feel sequels ruin the feel of the game. I thought FFVII was fine the way it was. They could have easily added some of the answers to the unanswered questions in the game. There really was no need for a sequel.

Heheheh...I'm ready for your trash talk now...;)

...I also want to say that NOJ_R IZ THE BEST PERSON ON THIS THREAD!!! :kaocheer: ...I love you Noj_R...:kaolove2:

[Shiny]

The bigger the projectiles the better.... :jokey:
Oh my my...:eek: that right there is adult talk. I was just talking about the swords ofcourse. ;) :angel:

[Noj_R]

Oh my my...:eek: that right there is adult talk. I was just talking about the swords ofcourse. ;) :angel:

I was just talkin about the concussive wave that eminates from the gun when the it is fired. Scouts honor...:cool:

[Shiny]

I was just talkin about the concussive wave that eminates from the gun when the it is fired. Scouts honor...:cool:
You mean the stuff that a fondly call swordmen?

[Noj_R]

You mean the stuff that a fondly call swordmen?

huh? :confused:


...I also want to say that NOJ_R IZ THE BEST PERSON ON THIS THREAD!!! :kaocheer: ...I love you Noj_R...:kaolove2:

Thank you, but you I think you are the best person on the thread, not me... :D

[Shiny]

huh? :confused:
I'm afraid to go deeper into that on this thread since it's been filled with spam and BS by most of the people already.

[Noj_R]

I'm afraid to go deeper into that on this thread since it's been filled with spam and BS by most of the people already.

lol, agreed.

[Setzer Gabianni]

1. No, the FFVII cast were people with no personality. I wouldn't even call them people...they were SOOO emotionless. (except maybe Tifa) FFVIII cast weren't rejects. Just cause they came from the same orphanage doesn't mean that the FFVIII cast were rejects. Honestly, if you think FVIII cast was rejects, then FFVII cast is the dirt we walk on. I have never seen stinkier cast than them. There are a few exceptions though.

Squall- Emo until he became a loser once he got with Rinoa
Selphie - OMG, I'm so hypppppppeeeeeeer!
Zell- He's cool
Irvine- Um..yeah. Ok I guess
Quistis-Quistis who?
Rinoa-BURN

They had no character, no personality - their background histories made everything so dull and boring. Even FFII > FFVIII characters

2. FVIII kept you guessing, with Ultimecia pocessing people and stuff, and Rinoa in a coma, and lots of other things. FFVII was all over the place, and when there was a problem, the answer to it was too predictable.

No it didn't. We all you knew you had to eventually defeat a sorceress! *rolls eyes*

3. Doesn't matter if X-2 was a mess up or not. Square obviously thought it was good. It is 1st FF sequel whether it was bad or not. End of story.

3.Mok

4. FFVIII didn't need a sequel because IT WAS TERRIFIC THE WAY IT WAS!!! I feel sequels ruin the feel of the game. I thought FFVII was fine the way it was. They could have easily added some of the answers to the unanswered questions in the game. There really was no need for a sequel.

Thank God they didn't do any sequels. It had a shoddy ending. I agree with you on the FFVII thing somewhat. Some of these sequels make me think -WTF? >.>

Come on..hit me with your answers! >;3

[Noj_R]

Come on..hit me with your answers! >;3

::SLAP:: ::SLAP:: :cool:

There is really no point in this whole arguement. There is no right or wrong answer, there is only everyone's seperate opinion. So how bout this. Instead of dissin eachother's favorite FF. how bout we say something we like about it and something we didnt like. I guess Ill go first:

The characters were really fleshed out in FF8.

The draw system was kind of annoying.

Now, state something you liked and disliked in your favorite FF. :) We can get along

[Shadow The Red XIII Thing]

1. They couldnt remember the orphanage cause they were 6 when it happened and the GFs erase their memory. FF8 characters whining? Yeah maybe but what about Cloud. He was whining the whole beginning of FF7! " Dont tell me your names! " " When this jobs done, im gone! " Waah! Dont even start on saying FF8 characters are idiots, the characters in FF7 are just as bad if not worst.
And thats the worst reason for amnesia I have ever heard. Dont tell me your names and when this jobs done I am gone is whining? Okay then I am guessing emo bishy over there is a god. At least they werent gay :cough: Zell:cough:

[escobert]

ha Zell was the only good character in VIII :p VII all the way for me, although VIII is my third favorite FF behind Tactics then VII

[Setzer Gabianni]

::SLAP:: ::SLAP:: :cool:

There is really no point in this whole arguement. There is no right or wrong answer, there is only everyone's seperate opinion. So how bout this. Instead of dissin eachother's favorite FF. how bout we say something we like about it and something we didnt like. I guess Ill go first:

The characters were really fleshed out in FF8.

The draw system was kind of annoying.

Now, state something you liked and disliked in your favorite FF. :) We can get along

Bad things in FFVII: Emerald Weapon, Ruby Weapon, Chocobo Breeding and Yuffie

Good things in FFVII: Everything else :D

~Setzer Gabianni

[The Devourer Of Worlds]

3 of the 4 negatives you just mentioned were some of the sole reasons I played FFVII...

[Shadow The Red XIII Thing]

Okay I disliked Tifa
I like Yuffie.
I wanna go home and turn on my playstation. Yuffies a sex machine just waiting to be turned on

[Noj_R]

I have to admit that I am replaying FF7 to get a second take on it. Im sure it will be better than the first time.:cool:

[Shadow The Red XIII Thing]

Noj-r just wants to turn on the sex machine I mean Playstation.

[Noj_R]

Noj-r just wants to turn on the sex machine I mean Playstation.

psych

[Death Penalty]

psych
double psych

[XxSephirothxX]

Zell was pretty much the only part of FFVIII I liked. I would even go so far as to say he was the only thing I didn't despise. FFVII, though not my favorite, was a very fun and quality game. I'd pick it in a heartbeat.

[Lychon]

VIII. Dear God, Final Fantasy VIII all the way...Why is this even a question? L o l

[Shiny]

I have to admit that I am replaying FF7 to get a second take on it. Im sure it will be better than the first time.:cool:
:rolleyes2 Wow. And after all that debate about how 8's all perfect (not) *gag* you decide to replay 7. Not to mention absoulutey love 7's music. Just admit it you know they both rule. (And no don't be smart and say yeah but one rules more that's not how this is going to go down). :p

[Thoughtless]

I like 8 better I think one of the main reasons is becuase I played it first. It was really the first RPG i played :P.
I do really like 7 but I think 8 wins.

[Setzer Gabianni]

VIII. Dear God, Final Fantasy VIII all the way...Why is this even a question? L o l

Because both games are big? L O L

~Setzer Gabianni

[DMKA]

Both are excellent games, but I don't think VIII compares to VII.

[*~Angel Wing~*]

Thank you, but you I think you are the best person on the thread, not me... :D
Aw...THAT'S SOOO SWEET!!!:kaolove2: I really appreciate that....:) But seriously, you're just as good as me. :cool:

[Death Penalty]

Thank you, but you I think you are the best person on the thread, not me...
WRONG I am

[cloud_doll]

I think FFVII is totally the best game ever, why? because the story was great, the music was great, the graphics were incredible when the game was made, and it really was the starting point for all the great games out there today! i dont think its overrated either. and if you really wanted to know some reasons, you should've put this in the FFVII threads.

[reynolth]

I gotta say that my first RPG and my favorite is FFVII. I didnt knew anything about RPGs since then. A friend of mine told me that I had to play an FF. So he ask me which one did I wanted to played first. He has every FF and he recommended FF7. For that time I had a brand new PS2. I didnt care for the graphics, it was just awesome, I had it for a long time, I beated Emerald weapon and Ruby weapon, I got a Golden Chocobo, and even had all the strongest weapons and all summons, so I played for a lot of time, I didnt even care for new PS2 releases. Then, one day, my friend came home a take away his:cry: FF7, but he gave FF8. After playing FF7, FF8 was extremely boring, but what I hated the most was that once you got to the last level you didnt had anything to do. I remember cursing the game for not letting me go back to the world map, then the game must have heard me. I finally founded the way out and I was like"Yeah, now Im going to______ city and make my adamantium weapons, Yeayha". Then the game said "You told me that I sucked, now take this!!" and when I got to ________ city, they were shield that didnt let me go in, I said "&*#@, lets try in the next one".

So, what I wanted to say was that FF7 was better no for graphics, nor music, and maybe not for the story, but because, even after beating the game, you could come back for more and DO things like trying to beat Emerald and ruby weapon, getting a Golden Chocobo, etc.

Plus, for me, Cloud>Squall, Sephiroth>Ultimecia, Materia>Junction system, FF7>FF8

[Noj_R]

:rolleyes2 Wow. And after all that debate about how 8's all perfect (not) *gag* you decide to replay 7. Not to mention absoulutey love 7's music. Just admit it you know they both rule. (And no don't be smart and say yeah but one rules more that's not how this is going to go down). :p

Hey, Im giving it a chance unlike you, who probably never beat FF8 :rolleyes2 . Im reevaluating my opinion on FF7 instead of being hypercritical of it. I suggest everybody do the same, because there really is something good in every FF if you look at from an unbiased position and you quit badmouthing it like a little newb fanboy. FF8 is my favorite, but im not going to childishly bash FF7 anymore cause its not. FF7 has some good stuff in it, its just that I like FF8 better. :cool:


WRONG I am

triple psych :p


I think FFVII is totally the best game ever, why? because the story was great, the music was great, the graphics were incredible when the game was made, and it really was the starting point for all the great games out there today! i dont think its overrated either. and if you really wanted to know some reasons, you should've put this in the FFVII threads.

FF8 has all those elements if you are unbiased and appreciate for what it is and not say " its not FF7 so it sucks ", then youll see it.


Aw...THAT'S SOOO SWEET!!!:kaolove2: I really appreciate that....:) But seriously, you're just as good as me. :cool:

lol

[Shiny]

Hey, Im giving it a chance unlike you, who probably never beat FF8 :rolleyes2 . Im reevaluating my opinion on FF7 instead of being hypercritical of it. I suggest everybody do the same, because there really is something good in every FF if you look at from an unbiased position and you quit badmouthing it like a little newb fanboy. FF8 is my favorite, but im not going to childishly bash FF7 anymore cause its not. FF7 has some good stuff in it, its just that I like FF8 better. :cool:



triple psych :p



FF8 has all those elements if you are unbiased and appreciate for what it is and not say " its not FF7 so it sucks ", then youll see it.



lol
WTF? Personal attack! Besides you've basically repeated what you've said. On the flip side this thread seriously needs to be moved to general final fantasy thread. Make up your mind man, either you like the games or you don't. They're both different so you can't compare them. Also, how can you say to people don't say "FF8 sucks" when you've bashed FF7 this whole thread?

[Noj_R]

WTF? Personal attack! Besides you've basically repeated what you've said. On the flip side this thread seriously needs to be moved to general final fantasy thread. Make up your mind man, either you like the games or you don't. They're both different so you can't compare them. Also, how can you say to people don't say "FF8 sucks" when you've bashed FF7 this whole thread?

Personal attack?! Didnt you read anything I said. Im not going to bash FF7 anymore. Im going to appreciate it for what it is, not what it isnt. I like the music, the magic system, and sephiroth, etc. Just not as much as FF8. Im sorry I bashed FF7, Im sorry! AH! Happy? Good. Your right, they are both different, thats why we should appreciate them for what they are and not what they arent. Im merely changing my attitude toward the whole debate since an attitude like i had before gets nowhere and is very immature.

Whats so wrong with reevaluating your opinion anyway?

[*~Angel Wing~*]

Squall- Emo until he became a loser once he got with Rinoa
Selphie - OMG, I'm so hypppppppeeeeeeer!
Zell- He's cool
Irvine- Um..yeah. Ok I guess
Quistis-Quistis who?
Rinoa-BURN

They had no character, no personality - their background histories made everything so dull and boring. Even FFII > FFVIII characters


No it didn't. We all you knew you had to eventually defeat a sorceress! *rolls eyes*


3.Mok


Thank God they didn't do any sequels. It had a shoddy ending. I agree with you on the FFVII thing somewhat. Some of these sequels make me think -WTF? >.>

Come on..hit me with your answers! >;3
1.
Cloud - wimpy, confusing, irritating

Aeris - just a pain in the ass (thank GOD she died!!!)

Tifa - she was okay

Barret - had a pissed off attitude, but mostly no personality

RedXIII - was cool but again, hardly any personality

Cait Sith - was kinda just there

Yuffie - theif, annoying, especially when she stole our materia

Cid - cursed a lot, I guess he had some personality...

Rufus - eh...

Scarlet - hated her guts, more than Aeris

Sephiroth - was cool until he turned into a psycho killer

Turks - only characters I actually liked aside from Tifa, especially Reno

A GIGANTIC prercentage of the FFVII characters had NOTHING, there was NOTHING to them, they were just BARELY ALIVE!!!:nonono: :eep: Ha, FFVII cast had basically NO background history!!! Just admit it, FFVIII HAD SO MUCH MORE!!! :D

2. I said Ultimecia pocessing people was surprising. No kidding we had to defeat a sorceress...:rolleyes2

4. Come on...the FFVIII ending was the best ending out of ALL THE FF GAMES!!!:kaocheer: FFVII was one of my least...it was alright, extremely predictable...:kaoindif: I guess it was the best they could do with such a weak story. :D

Heheheh...I waiting for you to thrash me...:D

[Shiny]

Personal attack?! Didnt you read anything I said. Im not going to bash FF7 anymore. Im going to appreciate it for what it is, not what it isnt. I like the music, the magic system, and sephiroth, etc. Just not as much as FF8. Im sorry I bashed FF7, Im sorry! AH! Happy? Good. Your right, they are both different, thats why we should appreciate them for what they are and not what they arent. Im merely changing my attitude toward the whole debate since an attitude like i had before gets nowhere and is very immature.

Whats so wrong with reevaluating your opinion anyway?
Actually nothing because I like you new opinion better anyway. I just think you shouldn't really tell people that they shouldn't bash one of the games when you've been bashing the other. And you gave me a personal attack...:eep:



Turks - only characters I actually liked aside from Tifa, especially Reno
Wait a minute since when was Tifa a Turk?:confused: Also, the characters DID have a backgroud history...now you're just making things up.

[Noj_R]

I said I was sorry about bashing FF7, and I am going to playt it again before passing final judgement, but in the meantime, I have bigger things to worry about:

Future Esthar is back :eek:
in his final form...Safer Future Esthar!!

[DMKA]

1.
Cloud - wimpy, confusing, irritating

Barret - had a pissed off attitude, but mostly no personality

RedXIII - was cool but again, hardly any personality

Cait Sith - was kinda just there

Yuffie - theif, annoying, especially when she stole our materia

Cid - cursed a lot, I guess he had some personality...

Rufus - eh...

Scarlet - hated her guts, more than Aeris

Sephiroth - was cool until he turned into a psycho killer

Turks - only characters I actually liked aside from Tifa, especially Reno

A GIGANTIC prercentage of the FFVII characters had NOTHING, there was NOTHING to them, they were just BARELY ALIVE!!!:nonono: :eep: Ha, FFVII cast had basically NO background history!!!
Wow, I have no intetion of thrashing you, because you didn't play FFVII.

[Lychon]

1.
Cloud - wimpy, confusing, irritating

Aeris - just a pain in the ass (thank GOD she died!!!)

Tifa - she was okay

Barret - had a pissed off attitude, but mostly no personality

RedXIII - was cool but again, hardly any personality

Cait Sith - was kinda just there

Yuffie - theif, annoying, especially when she stole our materia

Cid - cursed a lot, I guess he had some personality...

Rufus - eh...

Scarlet - hated her guts, more than Aeris

Sephiroth - was cool until he turned into a psycho killer

Turks - only characters I actually liked aside from Tifa, especially Reno

A GIGANTIC prercentage of the FFVII characters had NOTHING, there was NOTHING to them, they were just BARELY ALIVE!!!:nonono: :eep: Ha, FFVII cast had basically NO background history!!! Just admit it, FFVIII HAD SO MUCH MORE!!! :D

2. I said Ultimecia pocessing people was surprising. No kidding we had to defeat a sorceress...:rolleyes2

4. Come on...the FFVIII ending was the best ending out of ALL THE FF GAMES!!!:kaocheer: FFVII was one of my least...it was alright, extremely predictable...:kaoindif: I guess it was the best they could do with such a weak story. :D

Heheheh...I waiting for you to thrash me...:D



I COMPLETELY AGREE. As far as I am concerned, Final Fantasy VIII was the best in the series and quite possibly the greatest creation in the department of fiction. For me, this is FACT, not opinion, IMO. :D

Good call Angel, we can't let these people bashing VIII all the time! Fight the good fight! l o l

[Lost Number]

1.
Cloud - wimpy, confusing, irritating

Aeris - just a pain in the ass (thank GOD she died!!!)

Tifa - she was okay

Barret - had a pissed off attitude, but mostly no personality

RedXIII - was cool but again, hardly any personality

Cait Sith - was kinda just there

Yuffie - theif, annoying, especially when she stole our materia

Cid - cursed a lot, I guess he had some personality...

Rufus - eh...

Scarlet - hated her guts, more than Aeris

Sephiroth - was cool until he turned into a psycho killer

Turks - only characters I actually liked aside from Tifa, especially Reno

A GIGANTIC prercentage of the FFVII characters had NOTHING, there was NOTHING to them, they were just BARELY ALIVE!!!:nonono: :eep: Ha, FFVII cast had basically NO background history!!! Just admit it, FFVIII HAD SO MUCH MORE!!! :D

2. I said Ultimecia pocessing people was surprising. No kidding we had to defeat a sorceress...:rolleyes2

4. Come on...the FFVIII ending was the best ending out of ALL THE FF GAMES!!!:kaocheer: FFVII was one of my least...it was alright, extremely predictable...:kaoindif: I guess it was the best they could do with such a weak story. :D

Ill just say I disagree.

[Trumpet Thief]

chaos: I sort of like Final Fantasy VIII better. It really doesn't start off as depressing, so you can feel more into it.

Rubedo: Storyline wise though, they're either tied, or FFVII takes the ball.

[Setzer Gabianni]

1.
Cloud - wimpy, confusing, irritating

Aeris - just a pain in the ass (thank GOD she died!!!)

Tifa - she was okay

Barret - had a pissed off attitude, but mostly no personality

RedXIII - was cool but again, hardly any personality

Cait Sith - was kinda just there

Yuffie - theif, annoying, especially when she stole our materia

Cid - cursed a lot, I guess he had some personality...

Rufus - eh...

Scarlet - hated her guts, more than Aeris

Sephiroth - was cool until he turned into a psycho killer

Turks - only characters I actually liked aside from Tifa, especially Reno

A GIGANTIC prercentage of the FFVII characters had NOTHING, there was NOTHING to them, they were just BARELY ALIVE!!!:nonono: :eep: Ha, FFVII cast had basically NO background history!!! Just admit it, FFVIII HAD SO MUCH MORE!!! :D

2. I said Ultimecia pocessing people was surprising. No kidding we had to defeat a sorceress...:rolleyes2

4. Come on...the FFVIII ending was the best ending out of ALL THE FF GAMES!!!:kaocheer: FFVII was one of my least...it was alright, extremely predictable...:kaoindif: I guess it was the best they could do with such a weak story. :D

Heheheh...I waiting for you to thrash me...:D


I don't mind debating with FFVIII fans, but no way am I responding to that if you aren't even going to argue properly.

At least FFVII characters had different backgrounds, while FFVIIIs cast were virtually the same.

Eh..just reword what you say and calm down =/

~Setzer Gabianni

[Shiny]

Things that just aren't true...

FF8: Crap ending (well one of the three endings), Horrible music, medicore FMV graphics

FF7: Anything except the graphics are horrible

Things that are true...

The Turks: Reno, Rufus, Elena, Tseng and Rufus was their boss (NOT Tifa!)

FF7's character Vincent had a whole secret background which proves right there that atleast one character had a background, but it wasn't just one. Sephiroth, Cloud, Marlene's real father, Barret, Red XII, Hojo, Lucrecia just to name a few all had backgrounds.

The only FF8 characters who had a background besides the story with the ophranage was Squall, Rinoa, Laguna, Ellone and Raine.

[Noj_R]

I think Vincent is Sephiroth's father...

[Lychon]

Things that just aren't true...

FF8: Crap ending (well one of the three endings), Horrible music, medicore FMV graphics

FF7: Anything except the graphics are horrible

Things that are true...

The Turks: Reno, Rufus, Elena, Tseng and Rufus was their boss (NOT Tifa!)

FF7's character Vincent had a whole secret background which proves right there that atleast one character had a background, but it wasn't just one. Sephiroth, Cloud, Marlene's real father, Barret, Red XII, Hojo, Lucrecia just to name a few all had backgrounds.

The only FF8 characters who had a background besides the story with the ophranage was Squall, Rinoa, Laguna, Ellone and Raine.


1.)The FF8 characters were ALL developed, including Cid, Ellone, Edea, Seifer, Squall, Rinoa, Laguna, Raine, Julia, Adel, and many more. You are obviously biased in this regard and are contradicting the FACT that FF8 was a better game than FF7, or any other Final Fantasy for that matter.

2.) Laguna also had a secret background, as well as Raine, Ellone and some others.

Just admit that this is the superior game and you'll feel better, trust me:D.

-LYCHON


Note: All statements above, including statements designated as FACT are actually opinions of Lychon.

[Setzer Gabianni]

I was actually going to say something..but when I saw the note by Lychon, I thought, nah, what's the point, because no-ones opinions overrule anyones.

;p

~Setzer Gabianni

[Shiny]

1.)The FF8 characters were ALL developed, including Cid, Ellone, Edea, Seifer, Squall, Rinoa, Laguna, Raine, Julia, Adel, and many more. You are obviously biased in this regard and are contradicting the FACT that FF8 was a better game than FF7, or any other Final Fantasy for that matter.

2.) Laguna also had a secret background, as well as Raine, Ellone and some others.

That's basically what I said, so I guess you agree with me then. :grinpink: I already stated that Ellone, Laguna, etc. had backgrounds so do most of the characters in 7 get over it. 8 is not superior. By the way that isn't called contridiction. *Hands dictionary* It's fact. People and Square decided that 7 was the best. I just liked it and I happen to like 8 too. I just like 7 more, because it has more to offer and it's a groundbreaking rpg. That's why Square is spending their money trying to milk all the success (7 has brought them) dry.

[Thoughtless]

Their both awesome some people like one more and some people bash the other for some reason that I don't reallly get.

*END*

[Shadow The Red XIII Thing]

I am gonna replay 8 because of Nojs inspirational replay of 7.
I had a dream that ff8 fans and f7 fans could live together in perfect harmony- Square reprasentative

[The Devourer Of Worlds]

And after that, maybe you could convince people to play other, better games like FFIX...

[*~Angel Wing~*]

I COMPLETELY AGREE. As far as I am concerned, Final Fantasy VIII was the best in the series and quite possibly the greatest creation in the department of fiction. For me, this is FACT, not opinion, IMO. :D

Good call Angel, we can't let these people bashing VIII all the time! Fight the good fight! l o l
OH YEAH!!! You know it!!! :D You've been making some great calls yourself. :)


I don't mind debating with FFVIII fans, but no way am I responding to that if you aren't even going to argue properly.

At least FFVII characters had different backgrounds, while FFVIIIs cast were virtually the same.

Eh..just reword what you say and calm down =/

~Setzer Gabianni
WTF!?!? Argue properly...?:confused: What has everyone else on this thread been doing then?

[Shiny]

I don't mind debating with FFVIII fans, but no way am I responding to that if you aren't even going to argue properly.

At least FFVII characters had different backgrounds, while FFVIIIs cast were virtually the same.

Eh..just reword what you say and calm down =/

~Setzer Gabianni
:laugh: :thumb: I agree, where are some plausible and true reasons people?

[Shadow The Red XIII Thing]

And after that, maybe you could convince people to play other, better games like FFIX...
but FF9 sucks
Oh well I am gonna replay it again and se if it still sucks

[Llednar Twem]

It sucks.

[Evolavas]

I would have to say the FFVII story line was in some ways depressing, like cloud, barret, and the others characters background. But FFVIII was a litttle bit less depressing, but.........i dunno, i think them both the same. There still my favorite games though.

[Noj_R]

I am actually enjoying FF7 a lot more this time through. Like I said before, there isnt really a " bad " FF, or " best " one for that matter. I agree with Shadow, why cant we get along. I mean, we all have our favorite FF, but there really is anything wrong with the other ones. Its all a matter of preference.

[Setzer Gabianni]

I am actually enjoying FF7 a lot more this time through. Like I said before, there isnt really a " bad " FF, or " best " one for that matter. I agree with Shadow, why cant we get along. I mean, we all have our favorite FF, but there really is anything wrong with the other ones. Its all a matter of preference.

That would be a great quote to end this thread once and for all :love:

~Setzer Gabianni

[Shiny]

I am actually enjoying FF7 a lot more this time through. Like I said before, there isnt really a " bad " FF, or " best " one for that matter.
Yay! Maybe I'll replay FF8 since I just finished Metal Gear Solid 3.

[Noj_R]

Glad everybody is on good terms now :D

I am just about to go save Sector 7 from Shin-Ra's trap ;)

[Princess Dagger]

I prefer FF7 over FF8. ^^ But that's just my opinion. I think FF7 is more magical and fantasy-ish, whereas FF8 is a little ummm too "life-like" if you get what I mean. :)

[Slade]

I prefer FF7 over FF8. ^^ But that's just my opinion. I think FF7 is more magical and fantasy-ish, whereas FF8 is a little ummm too "life-like" if you get what I mean. :)
I actually found it the opposite way, to me VIII was more magical and fantasy like.
To each his own I guess :)

[Twilight]

Daaannngg it...well, since FFVII:AC came out, and i think back to FFVII, all the story mode and graphics of the past FF7 got better and badder!! lol its not fair....
bUT Still .... i like FF8 better...
maybe Nomura can do FF8 this time...lol

[Noj_R]

Tis true. FF7 is getting a ton of hype right now. I like the stuff comin out ( FF7:AC and FF7 Last Order ), but I would like to see some other FFs getting some attention too. Two new games and two new movies seems a little much...

[Setzer Gabianni]

Only the old FF's deserve some attention. Newer ones do not

~Setzer Gabianni

[DMKA]

I think Vincent is Sephiroth's father...
Finally, an intellegent, relevant, well thought out post.

[*~Angel Wing~*]

Wow, I have no intetion of thrashing you, because you didn't play FFVII.
Actually, I finished the game. Wasn't too crazy about it as you can tell. :nonono:


:laugh: :thumb: I agree, where are some plausible and true reasons people?
Um...it's called OPINION. Why don't you try looking that up in the dictionary. ;)


I am actually enjoying FF7 a lot more this time through. Like I said before, there isnt really a " bad " FF, or " best " one for that matter. I agree with Shadow, why cant we get along. I mean, we all have our favorite FF, but there really is anything wrong with the other ones. Its all a matter of preference.
Noj_R, you are an inspiration to all!!! :kaohappy2


Tis true. FF7 is getting a ton of hype right now. I like the stuff comin out ( FF7:AC and FF7 Last Order ), but I would like to see some other FFs getting some attention too. Two new games and two new movies seems a little much...
I agree, you can only go so far with a game. People start to get tired of it, and when you have too many sequels and stuff it ruins the feel for the game. I was never really into FFVII to begin with, but with all this extra stuff they're doing with it makes me dislike it even more.

[Setzer Gabianni]

^ Finally, something we can both agree on :D

~Setzer Gabianni

[*~Angel Wing~*]

^ Finally, something we can both agree on :D

~Setzer Gabianni
Yay!!! :kaohappy2

[Noj_R]

Yay! Finally, we can all agree! :D


Finally, an intellegent, relevant, well thought out post.

Out of curiousity, were you being sarcastic? Cause I wasnt...

[Lychon]

If by agree you mean that FF8 pawns FF7 and everything else, then yes, I agree. L o l, God, I'm such a little troublemaker with all my freedom crap....


-LYCHON

[Shiny]

Actually, I finished the game. Wasn't too crazy about it as you can tell. :nonono:


Um...it's called OPINION. Why don't you try looking that up in the dictionary. ;)

That wasn't specifically directed at you. Stop being so self-centered. I was simply agreeing with Sezter, because he is right. ;) Haha, finished the game... opinoin and fact are two different things. *Hands dictionary back*

P.S. L.O.L

[Hearts]

Curious, how many of you have actually played & completed both games?

I played both many times, and both things have the pros and the cons- as does everything.

Final Fantasy VII has a unique storyline and great characters with such personalities, and it has the humorous parts...I especially like how you're in a way putting pieces together in a puzzle in a way. There are plenty of outcomes for almost everything you do, and it was a stupendous game overall. With chocobo racing and the motorcycle game, it was very fun. Although, I was disappointed to see one of my favorite characters die in the end. This is a very emotional game, that is also one of my favorites.

However, Final Fantasy VIII seemed to be more appealing to me. The characters are, too, very interesting and all well put together. I easily fell in love with Squall, and easily hated Seifer. The plot of the game is exciting and it all twines together so well. All of the side-quests made the game all that more interesting, and with a background story of Laguna that made me love it all even more. It featured great graphics for the year that it was made, even though the whole walking in a line beside eachother got quite annoying sometimes. I really loved Eyes on Me, it is to this day one of my absolute favorite songs. The dance in the beginning was beautiful, and you can see the relationship forming from the beginning. Anyway, I shouldn't babble too much..straight to the point...

In my opinion, I think that Final Fantasy VIII is the best.

[Lost Number]

I have played both many times. I like them both for their merits, and play both still. They are in my mind, almost equal. To me 7 comes out, probably for sentimental reasons. But they are both good, nay, great games.

[Roxas_kingdom]

to me ff7 takes the cake it just seems so much better than ff8 i still luv them both but I just like ff7 better

[*~Angel Wing~*]

That wasn't specifically directed at you. Stop being so self-centered. I was simply agreeing with Sezter, because he is right. ;) Haha, finished the game... opinoin and fact are two different things. *Hands dictionary back*

P.S. L.O.L
I was just saying the dictionary thing for humor, and you know I finished it. The Vincent scene WAS NOT required. Ask me anything about FFVII, go on try me. ;) I guarantee I can anwser it. :D

[Shiny]

I was just saying the dictionary thing for humor, and you know I finished it. The Vincent scene WAS NOT required. Ask me anything about FFVII, go on try me. ;) I guarantee I can anwser it. :D
I wasn't not talking about the Vincent scene...get off of that. It doesn't matter what you know about both games, because everyone here seems to be somewhat informed of both of them. But the fact that your making up some things that just aren't true "characters have no background etc." is false. Pretty much all the characters had background. So regardless of whether you can answer trivia questions about 7 you still won't get the point which is that whether you like 8 the best (which is fine) 7 is the most popular. I like 8 as well, but as you know I liked 7 because it was more emotional and made room for a sequel. I wanted 8 to have a sequel as well but I knew that wouldn't be possible, because they pretty much screwed up the ending. There's no way you can say anything about 7 unless you appreciate it as a great rpg and can give the correct cons of the game instead of just making something up. This is why I agreed with Sezter. Also, 8 is very cliche which is why I was turned off by it while I playing it. 7 had a more shocking storyline that made it all the better. So I guess it's just prefence but I'm not going to take back the statement that 8 is obvoiusly somewhat inferior to 7 because it is. I suggest you play the game again without rushing through it and then if you still don't like it that's you. But then atleast you'll hopefully have actual cons to the game. Instead of saying "7 sucks" without any plausible reasons.

[*~Angel Wing~*]

I wasn't not talking about the Vincent scene...get off of that. It doesn't matter what you know about both games, because everyone here seems to be somewhat informed of both of them. But the fact that your making up some things that just aren't true "characters have no background etc." is false. Pretty much all the characters had background. So regardless of whether you can answer trivia questions about 7 you still won't get the point which is that whether you like 8 the best (which is fine) 7 is the most popular. I like 8 as well, but as you know I liked 7 because it was more emotional and made room for a sequel. I wanted 8 to have a sequel as well but I knew that wouldn't be possible, because they pretty much screwed up the ending. There's no way you can say anything about 7 unless you appreciate it as a great rpg and can give the correct cons of the game instead of just making something up. This is why I agreed with Sezter. Also, 8 is very cliche which is why I was turned off by it while I playing it. 7 had a more shocking storyline that made it all the better. So I guess it's just prefence but I'm not going to take back the statement that 8 is obvoiusly somewhat inferior to 7 because it is. I suggest you play the game again without rushing through it and then if you still don't like it that's you. But then atleast you'll hopefully have actual cons to the game. Instead of saying "7 sucks" without any plausible reasons.
I don't like the characters, and wasn't crazy about the game. That's just MY opinion. All that stuff you said about FFVIII is YOUR opinion. Okay? The whole point of this thread is what everyone's opinion is. Also, I don't need to replay FFVII because 1st off I have no desire to, and 2nd, I JUST BEAT IT 4 WEEKS AGO!!! :rolleyes2 :p And I never said FFVII sucks without any reasons. ;)

[Shiny]

I don't like the characters, and wasn't crazy about the game. That's just MY opinion. All that stuff you said about FFVIII is YOUR opinion. Okay? The whole point of this thread is what everyone's opinion is. Also, I don't need to replay FFVII because 1st off I have no desire to, and 2nd, I JUST BEAT IT 4 WEEKS AGO!!! :rolleyes2 :p And I never said FFVII sucks without any reasons. ;)
It's not opinion it's fact. The only thing that's opinion is that you don't like 7. And you did say 7 sucks many times. :rolleyes2

[Lychon]

It's not opinion it's fact. The only thing that's opinion is that you don't like 7. And you did say 7 sucks many times. :rolleyes2


You're right about things not being opinion. It's all fact. Except, the fact is that Final Fantasy VIII is the GREATEST FINAL FANTASY OF ALL TIME!!! And VII trails in darkness after the setting sun....


-LYCHON

[Death Penalty]

You're right about things not being opinion. It's all fact. Except, the fact is that Final Fantasy VIII is the GREATEST FINAL FANTASY OF ALL TIME!!! And VII trails in darkness after the setting sun....


-LYCHON
Fact- FF7 is the best FF ever
Opinion-Ff 8 is the best of all time