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Ultima Shadow
02-12-2006, 08:02 PM
"Oh my! It's Sephiroth! I better level up to level 100, get all the best equipments and a couple of elexirs (Sin Harvest is such an un-interruptible attack after all)! Then, I'll read a Sephiroth guide on Games FAQ's that tells me to not bother avoiding Sephiroth's attacks but just heal myself whenever I get hit! After all, my MP-recovering abilities will prevent me from ever running out of MP so I'll always be able to fully recover myself with Curaga! :)"

...

Ok, sorry. Let's just get to the point. I've never ever in my entire life seen an "advanced" Sephiroth guide that tells you about, for example, the "p0wnage-combos" that you can pull off on Sephy. For example, during Sephy's final phase, you can "combo Sephy to death" withou having him run/teleport away or anything to iterrupt the combo. Anyways... I'll explain all that later.


This is a guide that tells you how to beat Sephiroth at any time, at any level and with just about no preperation at all. You really don't even need to heal yourself even once.

Note: This is no newbie strategy guide. If you're about to fight Sephiroth for your very first time, it's not recomended that you use this guide.


Step 1: Preperation!

Make sure that you don't have any elexirs or other lame items. Then, just grab a keyblade with long reach and you're good to go!

Step 2: Enter the battle with Sephiroth!

This is a pretty tough part! First, you must walk up to Phil and select "Talk" in the command list. Press "X" to confirm, and Phil will ask you you if you know the rules. But instead of answearing "Yes, I know the rules" or "No, I don't", you will be forced to choose between a bunch of lame answears that doesn't make sense at all, like, for example "Pegasus Cup" and "Gold Match". The correct answear, however, is "Platinum Match", so pick that. Congratulations! You've just entered a battle with Sephiroth!

Step 3: p0wning Sephiroth!

Phase 1: This is Sephiroth's easiest phase and you should not have any trouble with it at all. Just do the old, basic jump approach and slice away until you reach the 2nd phase. Even my blind grandpa could make it trough this phase. If you seriously have trouble with this phase, you'll probably never make it through this battle alive. It's so easy and basic that you should be able to make it trough this phase without taking a singel hit. You can even do a p0wnage-combo (the same as the one used it phase 2, except it's much easier to pull off in this phase).

Phase 2: This is, usually, Sephiroth's hardest phase. However... if you manage to pull off a "p0wnage-combo", he won't even get a chanse to touch you. First, Sephiroth will jump to one of the corners of the battlefield and say "Come". Don't run after him. Run in the opposite direction to the opposite corner... and wait. Sephiroth will charge towards you, and then teleport... right in front of you! Oh no! Sin Harvest!!! No need to hurry. You should never get hit by Sin Harvest as long as you've got a faster responsetime than a dead beaver. Do a basic 4-hit combo, and he'll teleport-counter. This is where you'll be able to pull off the p0wnage-combo! Once Sephy teleport, activate the lock-on and roll towards the location where Sephy is about to show up. After a 4-hit combo, Sephy will always counter with a "jump forth, jump back sweep" out of his teleport. If you roll towards him right before he does this so-called "counter", he will miss... and when he "jumps back", he will be right in front of you... which means you'll be able to do another 4-hit combo! Obiviously, he will "counter" again, and all you need to do is repeat the process. If you successfully pull off a "p0wnage-combo", then Sephy should enter his 3th phase in no time and without ever getting a chanse to do his "Omnislash". If you screw up, however (p0wnage-combo requires good timing so it's not as easy and simple as it may sound), then you'll just have to avoid Sephiroth until he teleports. When he teleports, it's the same as the "counter", so just punish him with a new attempt on a shorter p0wnage-combo.

Phase 3: Sephy becomes invurnable and begins to glow. He will, once again, say "come" and then teleport away. But this time, you will be surrounded by a ring of glowing balls. Just jump away to avoid getting hit by them. Sephy teleports to the center of the battlefield and summons a swarm of meteors. Just make sure that you're close to the "walls", as far away from Sephy as possible and jump>glide as soon as the first meteor hits the ground. Once all the meteors has hit the ground, stop gliding and start avoiding the meteors as they begin to move around. This phase is usually pretty easy, but don't let your guard down and don't relax just because it's easy, or you may end up screwing up just because of that (watch video below). After a while, the meteors will explode and a big, glowing meteor thingy will be sent your way. Super Glide to dodge it, but make sure you do it SERIOUSLY, and DON'T screw up by gliding straight into the invisible walls just because you feel this part is too "easy".

Phase 4: Time for the "death-combo"! After the meteor phase, just make sure to dodge Sephiroth's new attacks and hit him with a 4-hit combo. A good way to do this is to roll away just as Sephiroth does his "dark whirl" and then quickly run towards him before he land and hit him with the 4-hit combo just as he land. The "death-combo" shouldn't be any hard to perform, because it's a lot more simple than the p0wnage-combo. As soon as you've hit Sephy with a 4-hit combo, roll away. Don't bother with the lock-on, just roll away. Sephy will counter with dark whirl, and he will counter faster than he did before. However... dark whirl has so much lag time that you'll be able to run back and hit him with another combo. Just repeat until he dies. It's really that simple.


And now, here's a video of me beating Sephiroth on level 71 on expert: ShadsVSephy (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XSQe345Ebl8)

An important thing to notice is that if you don't time the "p0wnage-combo" correctly, Sephy might not be stunned, or in the middle of a new move. If this happens, you may either just attack him again, or roll away depending on the situation. This is shown in the video during the first phase of the battle.

During the second phase, I miss the first teleport-counter... but I p0wnage-combo the rest of Sephy's HP all the way to the 3th phase.

During the 3th phase, I'm playing far too relaxed. I was orginally planning on not getting hit even once trough the entire battle, but because of my self-confidence, I got hit once. Oh well... such is life. I'll make another "no dammage" video another day. I don't have a video camera, but my friend who lives about 7 miles away does. When he visited me and we recorded this video, he couldn't stay for long though, so I didn't get the time to make another video where I beated Sephy without doing any stupid misstakes. But the next time he visits and brings his video camera, I'll do a new "no dammage" video. And in a way, I actually find it funny that I took dammage from once of those things that most people don't have any trouble with. :p

4th phase is just death-combo... except the fact that I don't finnish the death-combo. I felt like finnishing the battle in a weird and unusual way, so I used "Sonic Blade" instead. I had to use Sonic Blade twice, though since the first didn't hit enough times, but that only makes it more exciting. :cool:


Edit: No-Dammage Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ClCVw53FCZk


That's all, have a nice day. :greenie:

Zeromus_X
02-12-2006, 08:56 PM
well, alot of people already knew this, but still, it's a nice guide. :) (i let him hit me for mp...)

btw, it is not sin harvest. he is saying "descend, heartless angel". even though sin harvest sounds alot cooler.:cool:

The Summoner of Leviathan
02-12-2006, 09:18 PM
I will keep this in mind this summer when I am finally reunited with my PS2...Wait I need to get my KH game back frist...DAMNIT!

Ultima Shadow
02-12-2006, 09:22 PM
well, alot of people already knew this, but still, it's a nice guide. :) (i let him hit me for mp...)

btw, it is not sin harvest. he is saying "descend, heartless angel". even though sin harvest sounds alot cooler.:cool:But why let him hit you for MP if you don't need the MP? :greenie:

Everyone (or atleast most people) calls it "Sin Harvest" though, so I go by that. :p

Hambone
02-12-2006, 09:43 PM
Wow. What is your strength stat, Ultima Shadow? You do a lot more than me and I have a strength of 82... and I'm on level 100.

Ultima Shadow
02-12-2006, 09:50 PM
Wow. What is your strength stat, Ultima Shadow? You do a lot more than me and I have a strength of 82... and I'm on level 100.Hmmm... I don't know. I'll check it out tomorrow. But I'm sure it's less than 82. I use the "Ultima Weapon" keyblade, however. Do you use a weaker keyblade?

Hambone
02-12-2006, 09:53 PM
nope. I use Ultima Weapon. pm me when you find out.

Tavrobel
02-12-2006, 10:32 PM
One could have chosen a different Stats build up at the beginning of the game. Or, one of you used the Strength UP consumables.

And is this KH1, or KH 2? KH1 's Seph is just as easy to beat on Expert as he is on Normal. And Sin Harvest can be interrupted.

Ultima Shadow
02-12-2006, 10:52 PM
And Sin Harvest can be interrupted.http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e373/photobucketamazingness/orly.jpg

Tavrobel
02-12-2006, 10:58 PM
Yes. As much as one would not like to believe it. If you think I'm wrong, go use Ars Arcanum just as he says the words that begin the attack. I forget if Strike Raid makes you immune to Sin Harvest also, but it does interrupt.

Tifa's Real Lover(really
02-12-2006, 11:02 PM
didnt u do one b4?

Ultima Shadow
02-12-2006, 11:06 PM
Yes. As much as one would not like to believe it.You didn't read the first post, right? Yes, I already knew that you can interrupt Sin Harvest. That's basically what I tried to explain when I said this:

No need to hurry. You should never get hit by Sin Harvest as long as you've got a faster responsetime than a dead beaver. Do a basic 4-hit combo


didnt u do one b4?A Sephiroth guide? Nope.

Tavrobel
02-12-2006, 11:14 PM
Oops. I missed that part.

Chocobo King
02-12-2006, 11:30 PM
Dude wat is your guide to??

The Summoner of Leviathan
02-13-2006, 01:15 AM
Chocobo King, did you even read it, or the title? Anyways, if you have you would have realized it is a guide to beat Sephiroth, who many find hard to beat.

Tifa's Real Lover(really
02-13-2006, 01:36 AM
dude i loved the youtube clip tht guy has skills

RaidenWeb17
02-13-2006, 02:28 AM
dude i loved the youtube clip tht guy has skills
Yep, he really beat the crap out of Sephy.

Skyblade
02-13-2006, 02:00 PM
btw, it is not sin harvest. he is saying "descend, heartless angel". even though sin harvest sounds alot cooler.

I've always thought he said "Sin Harvest Angel", myself, and I have listened to hear precisely what he said on several occasions.

Ultima Shadow
02-13-2006, 03:51 PM
dude i loved the youtube clip tht guy has skillsHeh, thanks. :p

Just in case anyone, like lulu's moogle, wants to know my stats in that video, here they are:

HP: 90
MP: 11
STR: 62
DEF: 43

Note: These stats includes equipment.


As for the whole "Sin Harvest" thingy... maybe he doesn't say the same in the PAL versions of the game?

Zeromus_X
02-14-2006, 01:03 AM
just out of curiousity, ultima shadow, what did you pick at the beginning of the game? i picked shield, and gave up sword...and i still have higher attack then my defence :eep: i'm guessing it's because i put all my "ups" on sora or something...

i first beat him at level 79 with the lady luck keyblade (before knowing about the mystery goo trick, so i didnt have ultima weapon...)

i also beat phantom with oblivion...i dont know how i did it either...:eep:

then again, it was on normal mode :p

but anyway, yeah, that video is pretty amazing:eek: if you go behind sephiroth , you can dodge the big ass meteor...just so you know. i think you did know, but you just screwed up, like you said in the message.

i didnt know you could jump over the meteors at the edge of the screen!:eek: i must try that sometime!

anyhoo, just listen to it carefully. "descend, heartless angel!" i read about that on A l e x's guide to kingdom hearts, and i can hear it that way now.

(btw, i have the NA version of the game...but would it make a difference? they use the same voice actors dont they? i have no clue...)

Ultima Shadow
02-14-2006, 03:52 PM
I picked the sword and gave up the sheild.

Psydekick
02-14-2006, 09:09 PM
SAme as me:)

Tifa's Real Lover(really
02-14-2006, 09:31 PM
Heh, thanks. :p
tht could nvr b u:rolleyes2

Rocket Edge
02-14-2006, 11:13 PM
hehe, that was a massacre.

Zeromus_X
02-14-2006, 11:59 PM
I picked the sword and gave up the sheild.

everybody does that! :rolleyes2: sigh...i guess people dont like defence? :confused:

Lost Number
02-15-2006, 12:01 AM
I always pick shield!

The Summoner of Leviathan
02-15-2006, 05:29 AM
I pick the shield and sacrifice the sword, sometimes the wand too.

Psydekick
02-15-2006, 08:12 AM
I leave the wand, but maybe i should give it up. You hardly ever need to use magic and against Sephy and Ansem its very unaffective:)

Ultima Shadow
02-15-2006, 11:38 AM
tht could nvr b u:rolleyes2Oh, so you don't belive that video was mine? Fine then. Feel free to search the entire internet for that very same video. You won't find it anywhere else.

But I guess I'll have to walk in front of the screen and say "I'm Ultima Shadow from EoFF" in order to prove it to people like you. :p


I always pick the sword simply because attack power, in my opinion, is the most important stat. In KH, I hardly care about defense.

Skyblade
02-15-2006, 02:54 PM
Oh, so you don't belive that video was mine? Fine then. Feel free to search the entire internet for that very same video. You won't find it anywhere else.

But I guess I'll have to walk in front of the screen and say "I'm Ultima Shadow from EoFF" in order to prove it to people like you. :p


I always pick the sword simply because attack power, in my opinion, is the most important stat. In KH, I hardly care about defense.

Walking in front of the camera and saying "hi" to everyone from EoFF would be kinda cool... :D

I pick sword too, but I'm wondering if I should maybe pick the staff. I need to check how it affects your MP at the end. After all, you can synth however many Strength Pluses that you want. But you can't increase your MP that way. If you end up with higher MP with the staff than you do with the sword (by level 100), then the staff will result in a stronger Sora.

Ultima Shadow
02-15-2006, 04:24 PM
Walking in front of the camera and saying "hi" to everyone from EoFF would be kinda cool... :D

I pick sword too, but I'm wondering if I should maybe pick the staff. I need to check how it affects your MP at the end. After all, you can synth however many Strength Pluses that you want. But you can't increase your MP that way. If you end up with higher MP with the staff than you do with the sword (by level 100), then the staff will result in a stronger Sora.Sure, I'll try to remember to do that next time. :D

Hmmm, yeah, that may be true. I think you get about 2-3 more MP or so by level 100 if you pick the staff...

Psydekick
02-15-2006, 05:37 PM
Why do you need MP you don't use magic against any tough bosees:)

Skyblade
02-15-2006, 05:40 PM
Why do you need MP you don't use magic against any tough bosees:)

Maybe you don't. I like MP. And it's not just for magic. Strike Raid and other abilities use it too.

Tifa's Real Lover(really
02-15-2006, 07:36 PM
and curaga comes in handy


Oh, so you don't belive that video was mine? Fine then. Feel free to search the entire internet for that very same video. You won't find it anywhere else.
if tht was u then..................ur better than me in kh :rolleyes2 which is alot of skill, and yes u do have to go in the camera

Don't double post, use the edit/delete button instead.

~Void

Hambone
02-15-2006, 08:24 PM
I chose the sword and gave up the the staff.

Ultima Shadow
02-15-2006, 09:13 PM
if tht was u then..................ur better than me in kh :rolleyes2 which is alot of skill, and yes u do have to go in the cameraSure. :p

Well... you could look at it this way: SOMEONE made that video, right? SOMEONE must have played and defeated Sephiroth, only taking 1 singel hit, right? Then, why would you find it so hard to belive that this "someone" would be me?

You know that there's a guy out there who's better at beating Sephiroth than you, so why is it so hard for you to belive that this guy would be "me"? But oh, well... I guess I have no other choise than making another video where I walk in front of the camera in the end. :rolleyes2 I'll try to get my friend who has the video camera over here next weeksend, so that I can make another one. :greenie:

Tifa's Real Lover(really
02-15-2006, 09:34 PM
plze do :D

Hambone
02-16-2006, 12:52 AM
Sure. :p

Well... you could look at it this way: SOMEONE made that video, right? SOMEONE must have played and defeated Sephiroth, only taking 1 singel hit, right? Then, why would you find it so hard to belive that this "someone" would be me?

You know that there's a guy out there who's better at beating Sephiroth than you, so why is it so hard for you to belive that this guy would be "me"? But oh, well... I guess I have no other choise than making another video where I walk in front of the camera in the end. :rolleyes2 I'll try to get my friend who has the video camera over here next weeksend, so that I can make another one. :greenie:
Wow. You used a lot of green smilies.

Psydekick
02-16-2006, 08:11 AM
Maybe you don't. I like MP. And it's not just for magic. Strike Raid and other abilities use it too.
Oh yeah i din't think of that:cool:

Pheesh
02-16-2006, 10:11 AM
the word 'p0wn' does not sit right with me....can't we stick to pwn....like normal people.

Stay Super
GG

_yeojina_
02-16-2006, 10:28 AM
PWNAGE! PWNAGE! PWNAGE! I always choose Staff and give up the Shield. But I should've chosen Staff and given up the Sword. Then all the stats are evenly spread out. But they ruined the Ultima Weapon for me! I was hoping that it was blue!:cry:I saw this one which was played by this user called SquareGamer. Yes, he sucked. Yes, you pwned my day. And yes, I saw it all over and over again.

Ultima Shadow
02-16-2006, 05:15 PM
Wow. You used a lot of green smilies.Greenies for the win. :D

the word 'p0wn' does not sit right with me....can't we stick to pwn....like normal people.Eh, sure, whatever. :p

Also, here's the "proof" video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HFd5I3VRpWM

No, sorry. I forgot to say "Hi!" to everyone on EoFF. I just state the obivious: that I'm Ultima Shadow. I'll try to come up with some more intressting and witty line next time, though. :greenie:

My friend, Jakob aka "Jöffemo"<(not a member of EoFF) who also is the person that I borrowed the video camera from, wanted some credit for making the awesome intro. This time around, I don't really pwn-combo Sephy trough his 2nd phase and I almost think the last one was a bit cooler. However... this time around it's really "No Dammage"... so yeah... that probably still makes this one better, I guess.

Note: Later, I will upload a "No Dammage" video without that short scene with me in it.

Tifa's Real Lover(really
02-19-2006, 11:06 PM
Also, here's the "proof" video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HFd5I3VRpWM

OHMYGOD NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO ;______;, ok ill admit it, ur unstoppable in kingdom hearts, better than me ;__;, and wow in tht video u got hit 0 times, impressed, really, now if only u can beat me in SSBM

Ultima Shadow
02-20-2006, 10:54 AM
OHMYGOD NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO ;______;, ok ill admit it, ur unstoppable in kingdom hearts, better than me ;__;, and wow in tht video u got hit 0 times, impressed, really, now if only u can beat me in SSBMHeh! :p

Maybe I should get some videos of me playing SSBM against some of my friends as well? :greenie:

Tifa's Real Lover(really
02-20-2006, 02:56 PM
ur friends probably suck:rolleyes2

Ultima Shadow
02-20-2006, 07:33 PM
ur friends probably suck:rolleyes2Well, yeah... all my friends except 1 really does suck at SSBM. :p

But the one who doesn't is pretty good, actually. :greenie:

Tifa's Real Lover(really
02-20-2006, 11:12 PM
amateurs

Ultima Shadow
02-21-2006, 08:09 AM
amateursI'm not sure if you're much better yourself. :tongue:

Lost Number
02-21-2006, 01:52 PM
Hmm, nice skills! That is one good match! Im goin for ultra low level now. That also means no good equipment. But that is skillful. I salute you!

Tifa's Real Lover(really
02-21-2006, 08:50 PM
I'm not sure if you're much better yourself. :tongue:
well see wen the revolution comes out:rolleyes2

Azure Chrysanthemum
02-21-2006, 10:18 PM
Let's try to keep on topic please.

Ultima Shadow
02-26-2006, 10:56 PM
Oh yeah... I forgot to add the No-Dammage video without the "proof" thing in the end. Here it is: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ClCVw53FCZk

:greenie:

_yeojina_
02-27-2006, 11:44 AM
Ultima Shadow, you have absolutely no idea how jealous I am of you. Well, maybe a HINT of it.

KH-Cloudy
03-01-2006, 05:49 AM
do a ssbm one :P

Cruise Control
03-01-2006, 11:30 AM
DAMN. That is skill I always get hit by the big meteor.

Lost Number
03-01-2006, 06:46 PM
Takes a lot of practice, but if you remember that there is no reason why you should take a single hit, it gets easier.

Tifa's Real Lover(really
03-01-2006, 10:45 PM
so u can do it too right?

Lost Number
03-01-2006, 11:17 PM
Theoretically. I still get killed eventually. I cant beal a lot o damage, so the fight drags alot.

Ultima Shadow
03-01-2006, 11:21 PM
I wonder if I'll be able to do the same to the super bosses in KH2. We'll just have to wait and see, I guess. :greenie:

Off topic: And yes, I'll make some SSBM videos soon.


Theoretically. I still get killed eventually. I cant beal a lot o damage, so the fight drags alot.In your low-level Sephy thing?

Lost Number
03-01-2006, 11:26 PM
Yes. Worse is the fact its initial equipment too. It is literally a no damage match. 1 hit kill, see?

KH-Cloudy
03-02-2006, 02:46 AM
w00h00 i finally beat him XD just when he did sin harvest i did 4hit combo on him :D
now to get ultima weapon somehow........

Ultima Shadow
03-02-2006, 06:53 AM
Yes. Worse is the fact its initial equipment too. It is literally a no damage match. 1 hit kill, see?What about second chanse? :greenie:

Lost Number
03-02-2006, 04:42 PM
Second chance would be nice, but I never have enough AP. It still deadly with it though. I get p w n e d completely. I might as well make it no second chance, cos its harder.

Tifa's Real Lover(really
03-02-2006, 08:46 PM
w00h00 i finally beat him XD just when he did sin harvest i did 4hit combo on him :D
now to get ultima weapon somehow........
cheers on the 4 yrs later

Lost Number
03-02-2006, 08:47 PM
He will get it just before KH3 comes out.

Ultima Shadow
03-03-2006, 03:35 PM
Second chance would be nice, but I never have enough AP. It still deadly with it though. I get p w n e d completely. I might as well make it no second chance, cos its harder.Then just un-equip less important abilities. How much AP do you have anyway? And exactly how do you spend it? I find it pretty hard to belive that there would be any abilities, except Dodge Roll, that could be more useful than Second Chanse in a low-level Sephiroth challange...

As long as you can take more than 1 hit and have a few elexirs, you should be able to take a couple of hits without dying.

Lost Number
03-03-2006, 06:29 PM
How do I put this...it is theoretically possible to beat Sephitoth without healing, or taking a SINGLE hit. This has been proven. So, therefore all I have to do is survive for longer. I am trying to make this as hard as possible for myself, thats the entire point.

Tifa's Real Lover(really
03-03-2006, 08:50 PM
He will get it just before KH3 comes out.
ha ha good one



ne wayz it is possible to b beating him without taking a hit, havent u seen ultimate shadow play?

Lost Number
03-03-2006, 08:59 PM
Thats the bloody point. BUT I deal MUCH less damage.

KH-Cloudy
03-04-2006, 07:00 PM
whats ur str?
EDIT:also keyblade?

Lost Number
03-04-2006, 09:16 PM
I picked shield, which is USELESS now, so very low...25 or something, ive given up over the last day or two...so thats probably wrong.

KH-Cloudy
03-05-2006, 09:05 PM
so..did you finish kingdomhearts.
EDIT:i also have ultima keyblade after i beat sephrioth 22 times= level 100 on each character

Lost Number
03-05-2006, 09:07 PM
Yes...not Sephy though.

KuRt
03-06-2006, 12:21 AM
US, u sick son of a submariner... I watched the video and i'm so amazed by those dodges.. wow

KH-Cloudy
03-08-2006, 05:26 AM
try to uhh..synthesis alot of Str Up! XD may take awhile but hey you might actaully make it

Lost Number
03-08-2006, 04:21 PM
Synth means killing.
Killing means exp.
Exp means levels.
That defeats the point!

Tifa's Real Lover(really
03-08-2006, 08:00 PM
more star wars quotes?

Lost Number
03-08-2006, 08:08 PM
No...eejit.