Stayin Dizzy
03-03-2006, 09:58 AM
I read ff8 ending: your opinion and the ending (spoiler) and not all my questions are still answered so here goes. Just 5 minutes ago I saw the ending of ff8 for the first time. The first four times I've played this game I got to 1/2 way thorugh Ultmecias castle and quit (Why I dunno, I did the same thing with FF5 and I'll play them till near the end and start over later to keep the story fresh).
So anyways here are some thoughts/questions of my own
1: Why is it that that ugly skeez Ultimecia gets to summon Griever. Sure Eden is awesome too, but it defeat the purpose of naming the ring early in the game (does this affect name at end of game...say if I named the ring poopey pants, would I fight said name in the final battle?)
2: So I win the game with ZERO effort (well, one guy died once) and squall ends up on at Edea's Crib. So he's talkin to her and to ME it's as if hes stepped into one of the time holes Quis warns you about right after you beat Ultimecia final form (when they're runnin around). When she said that I figured time must have actually been compressed or very near so, as all times were one, or at least accessable from the plain of existence they were on.
Furthermore Matron recognized Squall from the future and tells him he doesn't belong. He mentions being a SeeD and the Garden and he has no clue. Based on the belief that FF8 operated on one timeline (vs CT's manny different worlds timeline) this scene suggested to me that it was someone of the future would defeat Ultimecia in the future causing her to go to Edea's time to give her powers to Edea at the exact same time meeting future Squall (based agian on the one timeline because Ultimecia was defeated she went back therefore Edea got her power therefore tried to bring future Ultimecia back therefore started whole game sending Squall ultimately into the future to be brought to that time during compression....make sense????)who TELLS HER to start the SeeD's and build the Garden (he say at this scene to her "the Garden trains SeeD's, SeeD's train to defeat the sorcerous(sp??)") and she tells him to go back to his own time.
Then he ends up in this crappy island. Other posts mentioned it being a plain of existence based solely on his desperation( he says I'm not alone then gives up and questions it and bam wish and though shalt recieve), but it also looked like the desert where the Ragnorok landed after saving Rinoa. Then it looks like his whole life flashes before his eyes but I'm guessing they were trying to imply that it all happened in like one second (thus the blur and jumpin around) as time was all at once. Then Rinoa who was smart and went to the right place grew wings out of her back (Possible because Ultimecia had given her power to Edea-who gave her power to Rinoa thus Rinoa had Ultimecia's powers still...this is saying she had her powers not was her. I've seen somethin about an R=U theory and I think just powers were there.)
she saves him and brings him back then it shows Laguana...again I was confused. He's with Raine (Is this where he went during time compression??) gettin the ring business on then it shows him at her grave with Elle and homies. Confused me. Then Seifer and co fishing was this showing that he was back to normal ???(he laughs when Fujin gets kicked in water)then sky (still grey like in compression but when Rinoa brings Squall back sky cleared like this) clears and then the video tape. Irvine hits on everyone, Zell eats, girls wave, Rinoa holds up finger, tape dies---credits. At first I thought I got the super secret crappy ending but I hung on to see Rinoa and Squall lovin showin he made it apparently. One thing I saw though was they made a point to show Rinoa's back...the wings were imprinted on her shirt (never like that the rest of the game) did this signify that she still had the ultimate powers of all the sorceresses?? Were the wings a marking showing she had spanned time to save Squall...very confusing indeed.
Great ending...Left me with some questions but great ending.
So anyways here are some thoughts/questions of my own
1: Why is it that that ugly skeez Ultimecia gets to summon Griever. Sure Eden is awesome too, but it defeat the purpose of naming the ring early in the game (does this affect name at end of game...say if I named the ring poopey pants, would I fight said name in the final battle?)
2: So I win the game with ZERO effort (well, one guy died once) and squall ends up on at Edea's Crib. So he's talkin to her and to ME it's as if hes stepped into one of the time holes Quis warns you about right after you beat Ultimecia final form (when they're runnin around). When she said that I figured time must have actually been compressed or very near so, as all times were one, or at least accessable from the plain of existence they were on.
Furthermore Matron recognized Squall from the future and tells him he doesn't belong. He mentions being a SeeD and the Garden and he has no clue. Based on the belief that FF8 operated on one timeline (vs CT's manny different worlds timeline) this scene suggested to me that it was someone of the future would defeat Ultimecia in the future causing her to go to Edea's time to give her powers to Edea at the exact same time meeting future Squall (based agian on the one timeline because Ultimecia was defeated she went back therefore Edea got her power therefore tried to bring future Ultimecia back therefore started whole game sending Squall ultimately into the future to be brought to that time during compression....make sense????)who TELLS HER to start the SeeD's and build the Garden (he say at this scene to her "the Garden trains SeeD's, SeeD's train to defeat the sorcerous(sp??)") and she tells him to go back to his own time.
Then he ends up in this crappy island. Other posts mentioned it being a plain of existence based solely on his desperation( he says I'm not alone then gives up and questions it and bam wish and though shalt recieve), but it also looked like the desert where the Ragnorok landed after saving Rinoa. Then it looks like his whole life flashes before his eyes but I'm guessing they were trying to imply that it all happened in like one second (thus the blur and jumpin around) as time was all at once. Then Rinoa who was smart and went to the right place grew wings out of her back (Possible because Ultimecia had given her power to Edea-who gave her power to Rinoa thus Rinoa had Ultimecia's powers still...this is saying she had her powers not was her. I've seen somethin about an R=U theory and I think just powers were there.)
she saves him and brings him back then it shows Laguana...again I was confused. He's with Raine (Is this where he went during time compression??) gettin the ring business on then it shows him at her grave with Elle and homies. Confused me. Then Seifer and co fishing was this showing that he was back to normal ???(he laughs when Fujin gets kicked in water)then sky (still grey like in compression but when Rinoa brings Squall back sky cleared like this) clears and then the video tape. Irvine hits on everyone, Zell eats, girls wave, Rinoa holds up finger, tape dies---credits. At first I thought I got the super secret crappy ending but I hung on to see Rinoa and Squall lovin showin he made it apparently. One thing I saw though was they made a point to show Rinoa's back...the wings were imprinted on her shirt (never like that the rest of the game) did this signify that she still had the ultimate powers of all the sorceresses?? Were the wings a marking showing she had spanned time to save Squall...very confusing indeed.
Great ending...Left me with some questions but great ending.