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Slayer53
03-04-2006, 11:51 PM
where can i get the pink tail to get adament armor plzzzzzzz helpppp??????????

Rase
03-05-2006, 01:32 AM
The enemy Pink Puffs are found on the Moon, in the underground. They are found on B5 in a far right room (where there's a treasure chest with a CABIN). Good luck encountering one, as the odds are only 1 in 64 unless you use an Alarm item. If you do encounter one, chances are you're NOT going to win (1/64) a Pink Tail from them. The overall odds are 1/4096. If by some miracle you do, you can take the Pink Tail to that tiny Miner guy that you had to reach by hovercraft near Silveria. He'll take the Pink Tail and give you some more Adamant ore. Take the Adamant ore to Kolkol (that Blacksmith in the Earth Underground) and he'll make you the Adamant armor.Good luck.

Cruise Control
03-05-2006, 02:20 AM
XD You make it sound so hard. If he has found them and not sold them, he should have 3 alarms. Giving him a 3/64 chance of getting it. Then, they come in goups of 5, which gives him a 15/64 chance.

So your chances of getting it are slightly better than1/5.

Necronopticous
03-05-2006, 02:32 AM
He'll take the Pink Tail and give you some more Adamant ore. Take the Adamant ore to Kolkol (that Blacksmith in the Earth Underground) and he'll make you the Adamant armor. That's inaccurate, actually the tail collector will give you the Adamant Armor right off the bat, you don't have to go back to Kokkol.

Slayer53
03-05-2006, 02:35 AM
well i got like 20 sirens so wat the odds now lol

Cruise Control
03-05-2006, 10:22 PM
20/64
Take into account they come in groups of 5, 100/64.

You have a 25/16 chance of getting one before you run out of sirens.

Captain Maxx Power
03-05-2006, 11:03 PM
20/64
Take into account they come in groups of 5, 100/64.

You have a 25/16 chance of getting one before you run out of sirens.

This is not how probabilities work. Each group of five has a 1% chance to drop at least one Pink Tail on average. This means that you need to fight about 100 or so battles to gain a Pink Tail. Note that as with all things in FF4 nothing is truly random, so chances are attempting to calculate such things is wasted effort.

Slayer53
03-05-2006, 11:36 PM
LOL

Cruise Control
03-06-2006, 03:59 PM
This is not how probabilities work. Each group of five has a 1% chance to drop at least one Pink Tail on average. This means that you need to fight about 100 or so battles to gain a Pink Tail. Note that as with all things in FF4 nothing is truly random, so chances are attempting to calculate such things is wasted effort.This is the odds he'll get it before he runs out of sirens. Not the odds of it being dropped.

Captain Maxx Power
03-06-2006, 06:32 PM
This is the odds he'll get it before he runs out of sirens. Not the odds of it being dropped.

First off when applying probabilities for indepedant events, you multiply the odds, not add them. Since each Pink Tail has a chance to drop it, and is in no way affected by it's fellow Pink Tail's, then you have to consider the absolute bare minimum for it to occur. In this case, the chance for one Pink Tail to drop is 1/64 * 63/64 * 63/64 * 63/64 * 63/64. These are the chances that a single Pink Tail will drop from one monster (1/64), and not drop/something else drop from the others (63/64). This comes up with 0.0146710882... whatever, which equated to around 1.4% chance to drop. Anything beyond that (two tails dropping, three tails dropping etc.) could be added on this, but the numbers become so astronomically small that they're not even worth mentioning. The chances of five dropping in one battle are 1/1073741824. Back on topic, fighting with 20 sirens, you have a 28% chance on average for at least one pink tail to drop. Mathematically speaking you need to fight at least 72 battles to guarantee one to drop. However as I have previously mentioned this is all irrelevant in the face of FF4's "unrandom-random" number scheme.

(CECIL120X
03-06-2006, 10:30 PM
How do you get sirens other than monsters dropping them because I only gotten 6 sirens in total> I didn't know how to do the chances math thing before i read the last post. i just learned something.

Reyen
03-13-2006, 07:04 PM
To get more Sirens, I plunder them. In the Trials area on the moon, There is one of the areas that have the searcher. I can plunder usually 2 with Edge. I have 36, and then go back to the Pink Tail Room. I save the game on Sub Level 7, then go back to Sub Level 5. I have been able to get one Pink Tail so far. If I use them all up, I just open my save game and do it again. The armor has saved Rosa from all but Globe 199. Everything else has either healed her 9999, or only caused about 2-3 K damage.

Zeromus_X
03-13-2006, 07:10 PM
Um..well, what about the original? Is it impossible once you've gone through the Tower and Giant of Babel? (Since I recall there being those "Searcher" monsters that drop them...) :cat:

Reyen
03-13-2006, 08:04 PM
Once you finish the game and open the Cave of Trials, one of the areas you are taken to is inside the Tower of Babel. That is where I plundered mine from.

Zeromus_X
03-13-2006, 11:22 PM
No...I mean, in the original FFIV. Not Advance. No secret dungeons. So is there any way to get them in the original? Or no? Just a yes or no answer. :cat: