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MecaKane
04-02-2006, 09:57 PM
Threads about people and events that go on in the world, are deligated to Eyes on Eachother, correct?
Threads that are about specific final fantasy games are deligated to that Final Fantasy forum, correct?
A thread questioning who we think the best looking boy in final fantasy ten is, in the <a href="http://forums.eyesonff.com/showthread.php?t=81960">ffx forum</a>.
A thread questioning who we think the best looking girl in the world is, in the replacement for eyes on the world, <a href="http://forums.eyesonff.com/showthread.php?p=1611128#post1611128">eoeo.</a> Maybe it'd be better in gen chat for it to get spammed up with 90 pictures of chun-li in about 20 seconds. :eek:

Sexism? I've seen 'girls only' or whatnot, on many threads that deal with subjects boys would have no interest in!

Del Murder
04-02-2006, 10:05 PM
I'm not really following you. What's your beef exactly?

MecaKane
04-02-2006, 10:07 PM
thread closed.
sexism listed as reason.
arg.

NeoCracker
04-02-2006, 10:07 PM
Leeza closed a Guys only thread in EoEO about hot girls and she called it sexist

Psychotic
04-02-2006, 10:12 PM
I'm going to save us all a big long thread here.

The staff will find a minute difference in thread A from thread B, and keep pointing it out again and again, refusing to even consider the possibility that they might actually be wrong in any way. Someone will question why Kane cares so much about this issue, and then we all spam 'til closure.

Nothing is changed.

Del Murder
04-02-2006, 10:13 PM
thread closed.
sexism listed as reason.
arg.
Oh ok. Well, sexism aside, pics of hot girls don't go in the serious forum. We apologize for not posting that in the rules anywhere. I guess

we.

were.

wrong.

Thank you Kane for bringing this up. We appreciate your caring for this site and issue.

If anyone has any comments on this specific issue, feel free to make them. All other posts will be deleted.

MecaKane
04-02-2006, 10:14 PM
Someone will question why Kane cares so much about this issue,
Sexy girls obviously.

Oh ok. Well, pics of hot girls don't go in the serious forum.
But in the unserious forum it leads to being retarded!

NeoCracker
04-02-2006, 10:14 PM
Oh ok. Well, pics of hot girls don't go in the serious forum.
Sounds like serious business to me


Edit: Quick question, does Leeza hold the record for most anti-specific staff member threads?

Del Murder
04-02-2006, 10:19 PM
Yes, and that's because she does a good job.

Kawaii Ryûkishi
04-02-2006, 10:22 PM
I think you missed the point. Leeza's citation of sexism didn't refer to the "males only" aspect so much as it referred to the "base objectification of the opposite sex" aspect.

NeoCracker
04-02-2006, 10:26 PM
Hey, women can objectify us men if they want, I don't think we'd complain.

MecaKane
04-02-2006, 10:28 PM
Oh that's just silly!
Objectification is where you oggle some chick dressed moderately, miding her own business. Not modles/actresses/whatever!

Leeza
04-02-2006, 10:32 PM
<i>sex·ism
1. Discrimination based on gender, especially discrimination against women.
2. Attitudes, conditions, or behaviors that promote stereotyping of social roles based on gender.
sexist

sexism

n : discriminatory or abusive behavior towards members of the opposite sex</i>

I think the word fit the thread. :cat:

NeoCracker
04-02-2006, 10:34 PM
So tell me, did this thread have a point to begin with?

Also who is the signature patrol suppose to be?

I'll also take this opprotunity to mention Linus's name is still under the artist forum description

MecaKane
04-02-2006, 10:46 PM
<i>sex·ism
1. Discrimination based on gender, especially discrimination against women.
2. Attitudes, conditions, or behaviors that promote stereotyping of social roles based on gender.
sexist

sexism

n : discriminatory or abusive behavior towards members of the opposite sex</i>

I think the word fit the thread. :cat:

You might want to use a definition that isn't sexist itself.

But still, I don't follow how saying which women you find attractive and then posting pictures proving yourself, fit into any of those definitions.

Leeza
04-02-2006, 10:48 PM
Argue with dictionary.com. That's their definition. They did not say <i>only</i> against women. And sexism, in my experience, usually does refer generally to women.

I believe the term used was <i>hot</i>. Not <i>attractive</i>. There is a sexist difference there.

NeoCracker
04-02-2006, 10:49 PM
Its just more common towards women, except those stupid femanists. There sexist. The extreme ones anyway.

Shlup
04-02-2006, 10:53 PM
So would a "Post people you find attractive whether they be male or female!" thread be acceptable to you?

faster skating penguin
04-02-2006, 10:55 PM
Argue with dictionary.com. That's their definition. They did not say <i>only</i> against women. And sexism, in my experience, usually does refer generally to women.

I believe the term used was <i>hot</i>. Not <i>attractive</i>. There is a sexist difference there.

No there isn't. Maybe if it was "lets post pictures of those creatures that ammuse our penises, as there is nothing else they're good for" rather than "HEY LETS POST HOT GURLZ!!!!" or whatever, it would have possibly been sexist.

McLovin'
04-02-2006, 10:56 PM
What is the big problem?

EDIT: I see.

NeoCracker
04-02-2006, 10:57 PM
Or how about the exact same thread in general chat with Attractive instead of hot?

Del Murder
04-02-2006, 10:59 PM
fsp, it would probably be wise of you not to get involved in these discussions anymore.

Shlup
04-02-2006, 10:59 PM
As I understand it it's not up to the staff to say whether or not a thread is appropriate for EoEO versus GC; it's up to how serious the poster would like to be. If I were to make a similar thread I'd make it in EoEO so I could report nik when he posts that retard in the car picture.

faster skating penguin
04-02-2006, 11:00 PM
Didn't people stop caring about sexism in the 90's anyway?

Raistlin
04-02-2006, 11:02 PM
So would a "Post people you find attractive whether they be male or female!" thread be acceptable to you?
This is what I want to know.

EDIT:

As I understand it it's not up to the staff to say whether or not a thread is appropriate for EoEO versus GC; it's up to how serious the poster would like to be. If I were to make a similar thread I'd make it in EoEO so I could report nik when he posts that retard in the car picture.
omg, Shlup made TWO good points in a row. I think quitting staff allowed her brain cells to flourish for the first time in years. :p

MecaKane
04-02-2006, 11:02 PM
Didn't people stop caring about sexism in the 90's anyway?
In situations such that this, it's more like the 70s. Now being unable to climb the corperate ladder, that's a horse of a different color!

NeoCracker
04-02-2006, 11:08 PM
I would like to take this time to bid farewell to FAIL, who was banned before his name was no longer on the news member list.

Back on topic, why havn't me or SHclups questions been answered?

Shlup
04-02-2006, 11:11 PM
I think quitting staff allowed her brain cells to flourish for the first time in years. :p
I'm inclined to agree with you. Though I do try to keep my mouth shut for fear of feeling like a traitor.

Del Murder
04-02-2006, 11:13 PM
If your desire to discuss the attractiveness of celebrities is really that large (or, probably more accurately, your desire to 'stick one to the staff' [precious, precious pride, we must let you soar]), please do so in GC, and tastefully.

Leeza felt that that thread was not in conjunction with the tasteful and serious tones of the eoeo forum, and I agree with her, and that is why it was not allowed.

Leeza
04-02-2006, 11:16 PM
As I understand it it's not up to the staff to say whether or not a thread is appropriate for EoEO versus GC; it's up to how serious the poster would like to be.
Up to a point almost all subjects are permitted in EoEO, yes. However, the final say does come from Staff.

If I were to make a similar thread I'd make it in EoEO so I could report nik when he posts that retard in the car picture.
The thread was posted in EoEO, but I do agree about nik. Although I don't think that he'll be posting that pic ever again. :)

Nick Schovitz
04-02-2006, 11:16 PM
Hmmm, I understand what you all are saying and I don't understand why Leeza's trying to boast around with the argument of the dictionary, do you not havce a mind of your own and the dictionary was created by people so as in that it is simply what the people want to make out of the word which means that really all words don't really have a true meaning and as my final statement I think that it was wrong they weren't showing porn or saying sexist things about them right and it was boys only too correct?

Shlup
04-02-2006, 11:18 PM
The thread was posted in EoEO, but I do agree about nik. Although I don't think that he'll be posting that pic ever again. :)
I realize it was posted in EoEO. I'm agreeing that it should be posted in EoEO, if the poster wishes to avoid "funny" [read: not funny] posts. You skipped my first question.

NeoCracker
04-02-2006, 11:18 PM
Hmmm, I understand what you all are saying and I don't understand why Leeza's trying to boast around with the argument of the dictionary, do you not havce a mind of your own and the dictionary was created by people so as in that it is simply what the people want to make out of the word which means that really all words don't really have a true meaning and as my final statement I think that it was wrong they weren't showing porn or saying sexist things about them right and it was boys only too correct?
IF words had no meaning then nothing you said has meaning, which is Ironic since it really doesn't make sence to me any. Some clarification please?

Shlup
04-02-2006, 11:19 PM
Don't bother asking Nick to clarify. It'll only hurt your brain to try and read it.

NeoCracker
04-02-2006, 11:20 PM
A little brain pain builds character

Del Murder
04-02-2006, 11:20 PM
Thank you Nick. Your comments about the discredibility of the meaning of all worrds and Leeza's conformity to the dictionary are now on the record.

Leeza
04-02-2006, 11:22 PM
So would a "Post people you find attractive whether they be male or female!" thread be acceptable to you?
Yes, this would be acceptable, if done maturely - in EoEO or GC.

NeoCracker
04-02-2006, 11:23 PM
So would a "Post people you find attractive whether they be male or female!" thread be acceptable to you?
Yes, this would be acceptable, if done maturely - in EoEO or GC.
Oh yeah, you answer hers but not mine, a mans!:mad2: I demand equal treatment!

Shlup
04-02-2006, 11:25 PM
So would a "Post people you find attractive whether they be male or female!" thread be acceptable to you?
Yes, this would be acceptable, if done maturely - in EoEO or GC.
Fair enough.

Leeza
04-02-2006, 11:25 PM
So would a "Post people you find attractive whether they be male or female!" thread be acceptable to you?
Yes, this would be acceptable, if done maturely - in EoEO or GC.
Oh yeah, you answer hers but not mine, a mans!:mad2: I demand equal treatment!
Yours I would be hesitant about because it again would be only about women, but it would have lasted longer than this one did, I'm sure.

NeoCracker
04-02-2006, 11:26 PM
Im watching you now Leeza, and as soon as you slip up I'll be there. I'll show everyone the truth.

Del Murder
04-02-2006, 11:29 PM
Yeah, that's what this is all about, isn't it?

Shlup
04-02-2006, 11:29 PM
Yours I would be hesitant about because it again would be only about women, but it would have lasted longer than this one did, I'm sure.
I would say a thread only about women would be fair only because there's still equal opportunity for a male-only thread to be made; whether or not the female (or gay male) members take advantage of that doesn't make the women-only thread sexist.

NeoCracker
04-02-2006, 11:29 PM
That and I'm feeling a little extra bitter today, but mostly the truth.

Leeza
04-02-2006, 11:35 PM
Yours I would be hesitant about because it again would be only about women, but it would have lasted longer than this one did, I'm sure.
I would say a thread only about women would be fair only because there's still equal opportunity for a male-only thread to be made; whether or not the female (or gay male) members take advantage of that doesn't make the women-only thread sexist.
You speak true, Shlup.

Shlup
04-02-2006, 11:38 PM
Good. So everyone can stop picking on Leeza now just 'cause that thread wasn't mature enough to make the cut.

NeoCracker
04-02-2006, 11:43 PM
Yours I would be hesitant about because it again would be only about women, but it would have lasted longer than this one did, I'm sure.
I would say a thread only about women would be fair only because there's still equal opportunity for a male-only thread to be made; whether or not the female (or gay male) members take advantage of that doesn't make the women-only thread sexist.
I believe a thread for only Women pictures is a good thing because women are beautiful, men are hair and lumpy.

Yamaneko
04-02-2006, 11:44 PM
I can see why not be able to discuss "hot gurlz" in a serious discussion forum is a big enough deal to warrant a feedback thread in which attacks directed at the actions of a moderator are made. Good job, comrades.

Shlup
04-02-2006, 11:45 PM
Suck an egg, Yams.

At this rate this forum is going to end up with one big long thread about the staff's increasing habit of belittling the members' concerns, along with some very pissy Raistlin's.

NeoCracker
04-02-2006, 11:45 PM
I can see why not be able to discuss "hot gurlz" in a serious discussion forum is a big enough deal to warrant a feedback thread in which attacks directed at the actions of a moderator are made. Good job, comrades.

Any time Yams

Yamaneko
04-02-2006, 11:49 PM
At this rate this forum is going to end up with one big long thread about the staff's increasing habit of belittling the members' concerns, along with some very pissy Raistlin's.
Please then bring up something that does not deserve belittling. I just don't see the big deal here.

Shlup
04-02-2006, 11:51 PM
It's not a big deal. Something disagreeable happened, it was brought up, and it was dealt with. Look, there aren't even any LJ entries about it!

Leeza
04-02-2006, 11:53 PM
...yet. :)

NeoCracker
04-02-2006, 11:53 PM
With the two Shlupquack posts you can set it so you see two dancing dino's. Its quite entertaining

Shlup
04-02-2006, 11:54 PM
...yet. :)
I'm keeping my fingers crossed.

Zell's Fists of Fury
04-03-2006, 12:00 AM
I don't understand why things like this are such hot-button issues around here. My biggest argument to the matter is "Who the fuck cares?"

Shlup
04-03-2006, 12:04 AM
Some members are bitter little turds and some staff members are snotty little piddle-drinkers. It's a downward spiral. Piss and vinegar.

Yamaneko
04-03-2006, 12:05 AM
It's better to be a frog than a turd. :foot:

Psychotic
04-03-2006, 12:06 AM
Is it spam time yet, or should I come back later?

EDIT: Thanks for answering my question, Yammy.

Yamaneko
04-03-2006, 12:08 AM
The big boy talk isn't over yet, Psychotic.

Psychotic
04-03-2006, 12:11 AM
I am a big boy! I can criticise Leeza as good as anyone! Leeza is...definitely...not...adventurous. See? I think she's going to be in intensive care for weeks after that BURN!

Shlup
04-03-2006, 12:11 AM
I fixed it then.

rubah
04-03-2006, 12:24 AM
I'm an adventure buddy! or rather I will be!

[edit- frogs drink piddle?

I don't want to be a frog:(]

Del Murder
04-03-2006, 12:33 AM
Look, there aren't even any LJ entries about it!
I made one!

I don't belittle everyone's concerns. Just a select few people who have cried wolf one too many times.

Zell's Fists of Fury
04-03-2006, 12:52 AM
Look, there aren't even any LJ entries about it!
I made one!

I don't belittle everyone's concerns. Just a select few people who have cried wolf one too many times.
Don't you have stuff to do? :nonono:

Dignified Pauper
04-03-2006, 03:02 AM
Does this mean Leeza is a feminist? If so,




ROCK ON SISTA!

Raistlin
04-03-2006, 04:30 AM
Bah, another example of staff and their double-standards.

edczxcvbnm
04-03-2006, 04:30 AM
I think General Chat should just be renamed the Dumbass forum and EoEO should be name the Dumbass Emo forum. This might clear up where people think they should make their dumbass threads.

Big D
04-03-2006, 05:06 AM
I think General Chat should just be renamed the Dumbass forum and EoEO should be name the Dumbass Emo forum. This might clear up where people think they should make their dumbass threads.Damn right.
I've got no problem with staff closing threads that are in poor taste, and don't contribute anything really useful except a further degredation of the overall tone and quality.

eestlinc
04-03-2006, 07:15 AM
Bah, another example of staff and their double-standards.
There is more to life than is dreamt of in your philosophy.

NeoCracker
04-03-2006, 10:15 AM
I think General Chat should just be renamed the Dumbass forum and EoEO should be name the Dumbass Emo forum. This might clear up where people think they should make their dumbass threads.Damn right.
I've got no problem with staff closing threads that are in poor taste, and don't contribute anything really useful except a further degredation of the overall tone and quality.
OF course you don't mind, your staff. Your opinion doesn't count.

Del Murder
04-04-2006, 03:50 AM
It's posts like those that make us think your opnion doesn't count either. Please don't make them.

NeoCracker
04-04-2006, 12:08 PM
It's posts like those that make us think your opnion doesn't count either. Please don't make them.
My bad, it it helps any I agree with him