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Uhanimar
04-06-2006, 12:26 AM
I read about the way to kill emerald weapon by using 8 mimes and 8 counter attacks. I have a triple growth weapon, and i've heard about the world famous magics pots, but where are they? I've looked in quite a few walkthroughs, but all they say is "Northern cavern", and if the northern cavern is that place just before the whirlwind maze, well, ugh, i can't get there. Weh. And if it isn't, well, where is it? :confused:

Artificial Hallucination
04-06-2006, 01:15 AM
The northern Cave is the North Crater. It's the final area of the game and is a little hard to miss.
The Magic Pots themselves are in a specific area of the Crater.
The first time you have to split your party choose to go left. At the next junction choose the route towards the top of the screen, or the north.
You will find yourself in a swamp-like area with lots of earthy brown colours and lots of weeds or vines snaking through water; the Magic Pots can be found here.
What you think they have to do with defeating Emerald WEAPON I can't fathom, the only notable features of these monsters are the facts that they are completely invulnerable until you give them an Elixir, after which you can kill them.
They do offer lots of AP, which is useful for advancing your Materia but, again, I don't see what this has to do with Emerald WEAPON.

Your theory about defeating Emerald with eight Mimes and eight Counters is a new one to me and I don't see how or why it could work.
I won't go into detail explaining how to defeat Emerald; but equipping so much materia would be a bad move.
Emerald's signature attack - Aire Tam Storm - does damaged based on the amount of materia you have equipped.
If a character has (for example) three Materia Aire Tam Storm will do 3333hp damage to that character, so you can see it's best to be as economical as possible with your Materia when attacking this WEAPON.

Uhanimar
04-06-2006, 01:43 AM
The northern Cave is the North Crater. It's the final area of the game and is a little hard to miss.
The Magic Pots themselves are in a specific area of the Crater.
The first time you have to split your party choose to go left. At the next junction choose the route towards the top of the screen, or the north.
You will find yourself in a swamp-like area with lots of earthy brown colours and lots of weeds or vines snaking through water; the Magic Pots can be found here.
What you think they have to do with defeating Emerald WEAPON I can't fathom, the only notable features of these monsters are the facts that they are completely invulnerable until you give them an Elixir, after which you can kill them.
They do offer lots of AP, which is useful for advancing your Materia but, again, I don't see what this has to do with Emerald WEAPON.

Your theory about defeating Emerald with eight Mimes and eight Counters is a new one to me and I don't see how or why it could work.
I won't go into detail explaining how to defeat Emerald; but equipping so much materia would be a bad move.
Emerald's signature attack - Aire Tam Storm - does damaged based on the amount of materia you have equipped.
If a character has (for example) three Materia Aire Tam Storm will do 3333hp damage to that character, so you can see it's best to be as economical as possible with your Materia when attacking this WEAPON.

Yes i've heard about that. I'm talking about a thread that i saw about having barrett use ungermax a total of 8 times in a row, along with a hero drink. Doing enough damage to kill him. I found it here:

http://forums.eyesonff.com/showthread.php?t=78777&highlight=Emerald+weapon


Also, appearently i go to the northern crater on disc three? Because i was sure that when you go that you wouldn't be going back out. I guess if i can go back i'll just proceed.:D

Artificial Hallucination
04-06-2006, 01:54 AM
It's not possible to Mime a Limit Break, so using Ungarmax eight times in a row is not possible, unless you wait for the Limit to charge in the conventional manner before using it.
The simplest way to kill Emerald weapon is to equip KoTR linked to MP Turbo, W-Summon and Mime on your other two (or even all three) characters. This should allow you to get a good chain going.
You might also think about Final Attack liked to Phoenix or Life, with a second Life Materia linked to All.

Regarding the North Crater - You do go there on disc 3, yes, and even though Cloud mentions that there's no going back you can leave whenever you like. Simply run back up and you'll see a hole in the wall of the crater, run through and you'll find yourself back at the Highwind.

Uhanimar
04-06-2006, 02:20 AM
It's not possible to Mime a Limit Break, so using Ungarmax eight times in a row is not possible, unless you wait for the Limit to charge in the conventional manner before using it.
The simplest way to kill Emerald weapon is to equip KoTR linked to MP Turbo, W-Summon and Mime on your other two (or even all three) characters. This should allow you to get a good chain going.
You might also think about Final Attack liked to Phoenix or Life, with a second Life Materia linked to All.

While usually i would agree with you, did you watch the movie? That guy definetly did it. With both barrett and cloud. The second one with cloud is probably more trust worthy. It had something to do with counter attacking a counter attack. And somehow attaching mime like it was a support materia. Not to mention, with me, it would be really really hard to beat emmy with the whole KoTR Bahamut zero thing that everyone talks about. Seeing as how i am never able to figure things out that fast. Icky.


Of course, in the end, it might be a little rarer, but the easiest and fastest way to kill emmy would be the world famous Cait Sith slots attack thing, hehe.:)

Zeromus_X
04-06-2006, 02:23 AM
Of course, in the end, it might be a little rarer, but the easiest and fastest way to kill emmy would be the world famous Cait Sith slots attack thing, hehe.:)
Like I've done. :love: :cat:

Anyway, you can mime Limit Breaks, as long as it's a Limit belonging to the mime. :cat: Here's the Barret video, btw: :cat:

http://n.ethz.ch/student/wmartin/videos/FFVII%20(JP)%20Beating%20Emerald%20Weapon%20(in%201.18%20min).rmvb

Counter uses the attached Materia whenever the equipped character recieves damage. Linked to Mime, that means you mime the last thing that one of your party members did. With eight Counter and Mime materias...well...yeah. :cat:

Uhanimar
04-06-2006, 02:35 AM
Of course, in the end, it might be a little rarer, but the easiest and fastest way to kill emmy would be the world famous Cait Sith slots attack thing, hehe.:)
Like I've done. :love: :cat:


It can be quite tricky, i still don't have the trick yet. I found that theres a certain rythum too pressing the slots. One time i'm pretty sure that i got it, but emmy decided to be a dork and kill me JUST before i was about to find out. :cry:

Zeromus_X
04-06-2006, 03:06 AM
Well, I think I just got lucky. For all we know, it's just rigged like Setzer's slots in FFVI due to a 'Random Number Generator', or it actually depends on skill, which I doubt. I usually get it if I get a first cat, and then I'll just press it without care, and I get two more cats. So I think it's predetermined. :cat::love:

Uhanimar
04-06-2006, 06:22 AM
Well, I think I just got lucky. For all we know, it's just rigged like Setzer's slots in FFVI due to a 'Random Number Generator', or it actually depends on skill, which I doubt. I usually get it if I get a first cat, and then I'll just press it without care, and I get two more cats. So I think it's predetermined. :cat::love:


Yes, most likly. There will be times when i press the buttons at a certain pace but never get the same thing. Hehe:choc:

Uhanimar
04-06-2006, 09:58 PM
Eee. I just thought of something else. Where can i get lots of elixers. Seeing how magic pots ask for them, and you can't kill them untill you give them one. Or can you also give them megalixers? If so, no biggy, since they give you those when you kill them.:choc2:

gyaku_zuki
04-06-2006, 10:09 PM
use the W-Item trick to clone em, thats what i do when im feeding magic pots

Uhanimar
04-06-2006, 11:00 PM
use the W-Item trick to clone em, thats what i do when im feeding magic pots

Oh yeah, W-item and then press X. I forgot about that. I should try that.

Captain Maxx Power
04-07-2006, 01:46 AM
Well, I think I just got lucky. For all we know, it's just rigged like Setzer's slots in FFVI due to a 'Random Number Generator', or it actually depends on skill, which I doubt. I usually get it if I get a first cat, and then I'll just press it without care, and I get two more cats. So I think it's predetermined. :cat::love:

It has some skill, but it's all rather complicated. The main factor is whether or not the "evil" tag is set. This is an invisible value that rigs the second and third slots. It makes the second slot stop immediately as oppose to rolling on to the next one, whereas the third slot not only skips forward one from the icon you would have got normally, it also stops you from getting three in a row. The chances of the evil tag being set are based on the first slot's face value (the "higher" it is the more likely the evil tag is set) and your current play time in seconds.

Uhanimar
04-13-2006, 11:44 PM
Ugh, i just thought. Is it possible to still get AP after you level up to 99? I've only got 4 of the 8 mimes i need, and my cloud is like, level 87 i think.



P.S. These guys are annoying: :tonberry:

Zeromus_X
04-14-2006, 01:56 AM
Yes, AP is still gained even after you've reached Level 99.

The mountain of Magic Pots grows further...:cat:

Wait, Tonberries are annoying? Get Yuffie in there and Morph 'em! Unless you never use her...meh. :cat:

Uhanimar
04-15-2006, 11:58 PM
I don't have yuffie. She freakin' steals your materia. Icky. Not to mention i don't know how to get it back. :P Of course, i could get her, and just not go to wutai.:p

Zeromus_X
04-16-2006, 12:20 AM
Yeah, that's not a required thing to do, just a sidequest. Get Yuffie, if only to be able to Morph Tonberries into Ribbons and Cactuars into Tetra Elementals. :cat: Her Conformer Ultimate Weapon (found in the crashed Gelnika) has some high damage formula related to the enemies level (don't know what exactly), but at any rate, you can easily to 9,999 damage morphing. :cat:

Uhanimar
04-16-2006, 12:28 AM
Yeah, that's not a required thing to do, just a sidequest. Get Yuffie, if only to be able to Morph Tonberries into Ribbons and Cactuars into Tetra Elementals. :cat: Her Conformer Ultimate Weapon (found in the crashed Gelnika) has some high damage formula related to the enemies level (don't know what exactly), but at any rate, you can easily to 9,999 damage morphing. :cat:

Yeah see, ether i sold yuffies weapons or couldn't find it. Also, she only does about 250 hp damage when morphing.:eek:

Zeromus_X
04-16-2006, 12:38 AM
And as I just said in the last post, with her Ultimate Weapon Conformer, damage when Morphing is increased to a point where it can do 9,999 at higher levels.

If you sold it though, then it really wouldn't matter anyway. :cat:

purplepenguin
04-16-2006, 02:07 PM
Just a quick thing if you can't find it the box in the crashed ship with yuffie's weapon in is not visible cos it's in the very far top left corner of the room.

Uhanimar
04-17-2006, 02:59 AM
Yay! Using Ultima weapon, and a lot of time, i was able to get a ribbon. That should make my battle square life much easyer.

Zeromus_X
04-17-2006, 04:24 AM
You might want to try weakening the Tonberries before Morphing them, just a thought. :cat:

Edit: Well, if you don't have Conformer.

Uhanimar
04-17-2006, 01:11 PM
You might want to try weakening the Tonberries before Morphing them, just a thought. :cat:

Edit: Well, if you don't have Conformer.


Thats what i did. I hurt him just enough so that i could morph him the rest of the way. Of course, Since i couldn't sense him, it still took a while. :p