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The Fat Bioware Nerd
04-07-2006, 06:15 AM
Has anybody here noticed that Garnet is kind of like a female version of Squall? I mean Garnet pushes Zidane away a lot during FFIX and Squall and does the same with Rinoa in FFVIII. I know this for a fact because I read a post in another message board that said-"I hate Garnet for the way she treated Zidane in FFIX! Poor Zidane..."-or something along those lines.

YTDN
04-07-2006, 08:44 AM
Personally, I think she's acting like a normal girl, as in, just because this guy is hitting on her, it doesn't mean she has to fall head over heels in love with him. And if a guy was permantantly hitting on me, I wouldn't be falling in love with him anytime soon.

Quindiana Jones
04-07-2006, 11:03 AM
You would if it was me ;)

Darth Cid
04-07-2006, 06:02 PM
*Zidane moves away from the keyboard and gives Garnet a signal for the right of way, Garnet bows and sits down at the computer and cranks her knuckles*

Garnet: Garnet a female Squall, that's grade A chocobo /xxx.gif/xxx.gif/xxx.gif/xxx.gif! Garnet is a believable person, first off, she's not a Squall or Cloud, why, she doesn't say "I don't care." or "Whatever..." she was mostly preoccupied with the situation at hand, what her foster mother Brahne is up to, and when Brahne dies how to stop Kuja from destroying Alexandria. She had way too much on her mind considering her age. The reason she pushed Zidane away at first is simple, it's natural for a girl of her kind to want to be respected and I don't mean that because of her social status, in times of undevelopment, women want to be respected as they respect other people, she doesn't play the part of a wild girl, she wants to be the goody two-shoe classy lady she was raised to be. She's also mature for her age, and as a person in her position, a princess durning the events of FFIX, she has a right to be shy. And Zidane was just being a teenage guy, a believable teenage guy because he's hitting on her, not the other way around. As we've posted several times, what makes the love story believable is because guy hits girl because he finds her cute, it kinda starts getting to her, at the same time guy is loving in love with who is she, and she is falling in love with him as he's changing, both sides of the relationship change in personality and develop, and feelings grow deep between them. It's a new friend by chance, one-thing-lead-to-another, and it evolved into a passionate relationship. By all means, Rinoa can take lessons from Garnet on how a woman acts her gender.

Twilight Edge
04-07-2006, 06:24 PM
She's still a teen,natural puberty shyness.(I think I'm talking nonsense)

The Fat Bioware Nerd
04-07-2006, 06:34 PM
*Zidane moves away from the keyboard and gives Garnet a signal for the right of way, Garnet bows and sits down at the computer and cranks her knuckles*

Garnet: Garnet a female Squall, that's grade A chocobo /xxx.gif/xxx.gif/xxx.gif/xxx.gif! Garnet is a believable person, first off, she's not a Squall or Cloud, why, she doesn't say "I don't care." or "Whatever..." she was mostly preoccupied with the situation at hand, what her foster mother Brahne is up to, and when Brahne dies how to stop Kuja from destroying Alexandria. She had way too much on her mind considering her age. The reason she pushed Zidane away at first is simple, it's natural for a girl of her kind to want to be respected and I don't mean that because of her social status, in times of undevelopment, women want to be respected as they respect other people, she doesn't play the part of a wild girl, she wants to be the goody two-shoe classy lady she was raised to be, and Zidane was just being a teenage guy, a believable teenage guy because he's hitting on her, not the other way around. As we've posted several times, what makes the love story believable is because guy hits girl because he finds her cute, it kinda starts getting to her, at the same time guy is loving in love with who is she, and she is falling in love with him as he's changing, both sides of the relationship change in personality and develop, and feelings grow deep between them. It's a new friend by chance, one-thing-lead-to-another, and it evolved into a passionate relationship. By all means, Rinoa can take a hint from Garnet on how to ACT YOUR GENDER.

Well Garnet is quiet and she didn't like Zidane sometimes because he wouldn't take any of the situations in the game seriously at first. I'd bet Garnet would probaby like Squall if he was in FFIX because he took every situation in FFVIII seriously.LOL!!!:D

Darth Cid
04-07-2006, 06:57 PM
*Zidane moves away from the keyboard and gives Garnet a signal for the right of way, Garnet bows and sits down at the computer and cranks her knuckles*

Garnet: Garnet a female Squall, that's grade A chocobo /xxx.gif/xxx.gif/xxx.gif/xxx.gif! Garnet is a believable person, first off, she's not a Squall or Cloud, why, she doesn't say "I don't care." or "Whatever..." she was mostly preoccupied with the situation at hand, what her foster mother Brahne is up to, and when Brahne dies how to stop Kuja from destroying Alexandria. She had way too much on her mind considering her age. The reason she pushed Zidane away at first is simple, it's natural for a girl of her kind to want to be respected and I don't mean that because of her social status, in times of undevelopment, women want to be respected as they respect other people, she doesn't play the part of a wild girl, she wants to be the goody two-shoe classy lady she was raised to be, and Zidane was just being a teenage guy, a believable teenage guy because he's hitting on her, not the other way around. As we've posted several times, what makes the love story believable is because guy hits girl because he finds her cute, it kinda starts getting to her, at the same time guy is loving in love with who is she, and she is falling in love with him as he's changing, both sides of the relationship change in personality and develop, and feelings grow deep between them. It's a new friend by chance, one-thing-lead-to-another, and it evolved into a passionate relationship. By all means, Rinoa can take a hint from Garnet on how to ACT YOUR GENDER.

Well Garnet is quiet and she didn't like Zidane sometimes because he wouldn't take any of the situations in the game seriously at first. I'd bet Garnet would probaby like Squall if he was in FFIX because he took every situation in FFVIII seriously.LOL!!!:D

Garnet: Quite the opposite, I...-er...Garnet wouldn't be able to stand Squall and his "crap on the world, it's not my problem, whatever..." additude as compared, Garnet's "I blame myself." additude. And Zidane did take things seriously even at the beginning, but he knows when to give a joke or two to liven people's spirits. Of course, Garnet was quiet, she's lead a quiet life, do you expect a quiet person to leave their home and suddenly be all loud-mouth and flirtish? No at least I don't. Garnet needed time to get to know Zidane, likewise, Zidane needed time to get to know Garnet. Comparing Garnet to Squall is wrong, because Garnet as I said before, acts her gender, Squall acts his gender if his gender had periods. :D

TheAbominatrix
04-07-2006, 07:09 PM
It's hard for someone as sheltered and as serious as Garnet to deal with someone so straight-forward and almost pushy as Zidane. At least that's how I saw it.

Zidane was quite clearly attracted to Garnet... but I think Garnet was smart enough to know that, at the beginning, that could be no more that physical attraction. Eventually he gets to know her and genuinely likes her... and I think that's what she starts to respond. I think if she'd given into him easily (like I assume most girls did), he'd have lost interested. But then again, I could just be relating that to guys I know.

If anything, I'd say Zidane acted like Rinoa, but he doesnt... much.

Darth Cid
04-07-2006, 07:21 PM
It's hard for someone as sheltered and as serious as Garnet to deal with someone so straight-forward and almost pushy as Zidane. At least that's how I saw it.

Zidane was quite clearly attracted to Garnet... but I think Garnet was smart enough to know that, at the beginning, that could be no more that physical attraction. Eventually he gets to know her and genuinely likes her... and I think that's what she starts to respond. I think if she'd given into him easily (like I assume most girls did), he'd have lost interested. But then again, I could just be relating that to guys I know.

If anything, I'd say Zidane acted like Rinoa, but he doesnt... much.

Zidane: What do you mean by "given into him"? Because that's something else I want to touch on, Zidane. Everyone debates on whether or not, Zidane was a virgin during the FFIX events, we think he was a virgin, and I'll tell you why, first off, he's a bit young wouldn't you say? Seond on, I think he's like Irvine from FFVIII, he claims to be a ladies' man, but you never see him with a girl in the scene of the past. The way I see it, yes, Zidane was a hopeless romantic, everytime he would ask a girl out it would be the same scenario every single time, the girl would lose interest after realizing he's just big-talking, or instantly pours a drink to his lap after his second sentence. He claims to be everywhere where there's beautiful women, does he ever say he's with one? He was a hopeless romantic, not a ladies' man, and that's the truth.

The Fat Bioware Nerd
04-07-2006, 07:22 PM
*Zidane moves away from the keyboard and gives Garnet a signal for the right of way, Garnet bows and sits down at the computer and cranks her knuckles*

Garnet: Garnet a female Squall, that's grade A chocobo /xxx.gif/xxx.gif/xxx.gif/xxx.gif! Garnet is a believable person, first off, she's not a Squall or Cloud, why, she doesn't say "I don't care." or "Whatever..." she was mostly preoccupied with the situation at hand, what her foster mother Brahne is up to, and when Brahne dies how to stop Kuja from destroying Alexandria. She had way too much on her mind considering her age. The reason she pushed Zidane away at first is simple, it's natural for a girl of her kind to want to be respected and I don't mean that because of her social status, in times of undevelopment, women want to be respected as they respect other people, she doesn't play the part of a wild girl, she wants to be the goody two-shoe classy lady she was raised to be, and Zidane was just being a teenage guy, a believable teenage guy because he's hitting on her, not the other way around. As we've posted several times, what makes the love story believable is because guy hits girl because he finds her cute, it kinda starts getting to her, at the same time guy is loving in love with who is she, and she is falling in love with him as he's changing, both sides of the relationship change in personality and develop, and feelings grow deep between them. It's a new friend by chance, one-thing-lead-to-another, and it evolved into a passionate relationship. By all means, Rinoa can take a hint from Garnet on how to ACT YOUR GENDER.

Well Garnet is quiet and she didn't like Zidane sometimes because he wouldn't take any of the situations in the game seriously at first. I'd bet Garnet would probaby like Squall if he was in FFIX because he took every situation in FFVIII seriously.LOL!!!:D

Garnet: Quite the opposite, I...-er...Garnet wouldn't be able to stand Squall and his "crap on the world, it's not my problem, whatever..." additude as compared, Garnet's "I blame myself." additude. And Zidane did take things seriously even at the beginning, but he knows when to give a joke or two to liven people's spirits. Of course, Garnet was quiet, she's lead a quiet life, do you expect a quiet person to leave their home and suddenly be all loud-mouth and flirtish? No at least I don't. Garnet needed time to get to know Zidane, likewise, Zidane needed time to get to know Garnet. Comparing Garnet to Squall is wrong, because Garnet as I said before, acts her gender, Squall acts his gender if his gender had periods. :D

LOL!!!:D

TheAbominatrix
04-07-2006, 07:25 PM
Like I said, I was touching a bit upon guys I know, who constantly flirt and then get tired of the girls who give in too easily. That's how Zidane seemed to me, and really if anything, I see him as a failed ladies man and not a true romantic. That's how he always came across to me.

Darth Cid
04-07-2006, 07:25 PM
Garnet: John, I fail to see the humor, that's the truth.

The Fat Bioware Nerd
04-07-2006, 07:32 PM
Garnet: John, I fail to see the humor, that's the truth.

Well I don't know why but...I just thought that it was funny when you accidentally called yourself Garnet then you corrected yourself.:D

Darth Cid
04-07-2006, 07:38 PM
Garnet: John, I fail to see the humor, that's the truth.

Well I don't know why but...I just thought that it was funny when you accidentally called yourself Garnet then you corrected yourself.:D

Zidane: Well, we're very distingished rpers, at times my wife and I take on the personalities of THE characters we protray and sooner or later, forget we're just normal Earthlings.

The Fat Bioware Nerd
04-07-2006, 07:44 PM
Garnet: John, I fail to see the humor, that's the truth.

Well I don't know why but...I just thought that it was funny when you accidentally called yourself Garnet then you corrected yourself.:D

Zidane: Well, we're very distingished rpers, at times my wife and I take on the personalities of THE characters we protray and sooner or later, forget we're just normal Earthlings.

Rpers?:confused:

Darth Cid
04-07-2006, 08:46 PM
Garnet: rper = role player, there are rp message boards, where people role play as characters, check the writer's corner for anything with [RP] in the title, you'll see what we're talking about.

Heero Yuy NWZC
04-07-2006, 09:10 PM
Naw dude. She's just going through a hard time thinking about her feelings for Zidane and going through puberty while doing this whole journey. Lots of stress.

Darth Cid
04-08-2006, 12:40 AM
Garnet:...That's a very good way of putting it, why didn't I think of that?

The Fat Bioware Nerd
04-08-2006, 12:53 AM
Garnet:...That's a very good way of putting it, why didn't I think of that?

Well were you angry when you posted your response? If so that's probaby why it's difficult to do something when you're angry. I know that this is true because when my mom tried cleaning her car when she was angry she couldn't focus on the task at hand and she accidentally put a dent in one of the car doors.

Darth Cid
04-08-2006, 01:30 AM
Garnet:...That's a very good way of putting it, why didn't I think of that?

Well were you angry when you posted your response? If so that's probaby why it's difficult to do something when you're angry. I know that this is true because when my mom tried cleaning her car when she was angry she couldn't focus on the task at hand and she accidentally put a dent in one of the car doors.


Zidane: Um...John...what does that have to do with this thread?

The Fat Bioware Nerd
04-08-2006, 01:55 AM
Garnet:...That's a very good way of putting it, why didn't I think of that?

Well were you angry when you posted your response? If so that's probaby why it's difficult to do something when you're angry. I know that this is true because when my mom tried cleaning her car when she was angry she couldn't focus on the task at hand and she accidentally put a dent in one of the car doors.


Zidane: Um...John...what does that have to do with this thread?

I was asking you if you were angry when you posted your response. You see some people have a hard time thinking when they're angry and they react by instinct.

auhin
04-08-2006, 04:30 AM
Needless, to say, John was pwnd. Squall is nothing like Garnet. The female counterpart of Squall would be Aeris. She's just as boring as he is.

The Fat Bioware Nerd
04-08-2006, 04:58 AM
Needless, to say, John was pwnd. Squall is nothing like Garnet. The female counterpart of Squall would be Aeris. She's just as boring as he is.

Pwnd? I'm sorry but I'm still slightly new at this message board thing so I don't know what you're talking about...And I wasn't comparing Squall to Garnet it was the other way around I'm not sure about Aeris being Squall's female counterpart...If she was there would probaby be a ton Squall/Aeris fanfiction pairings but there isn't! In fact it's the same thing over and over again in the Kingdom Hearts fanfiction Squall(Leon)XYuffie and CloudXAeris(Aerith).:rolleyes2 Jesus Christ!!! I wish those fricking authors would try something different!!! Also I've heard one author say-"Squall and Aeris have this dynamic I just can't picture them getting together."-or something along those lines. I really can't remember because I'm pissed off at myself...Because I have fricking writer's block right now...So I can't think of a new chapter for my god damn current story or another story!!!:mad2:

Vivi123
04-08-2006, 05:32 AM
Dagger look like Sqaull No way!!

here is some pics!

Darth Cid
04-08-2006, 05:54 AM
Needless, to say, John was pwnd. Squall is nothing like Garnet. The female counterpart of Squall would be Aeris. She's just as boring as he is.

Zidane: No, auhin, John didn't get pwned, he got wtfpwned, there's a difference, anyway, I have much pity for whoever said that on your other message board, John, he or she apparently doesn't grasp who Garnet is.

The Fat Bioware Nerd
04-08-2006, 06:02 AM
Dagger look like Sqaull No way!!

here is some pics!

I meant to say that their behavior is slightly similar...Because they're both quiet and they're both easily embarrassed.:choc2:

Darth Cid
04-08-2006, 06:05 AM
Garnet: I'm...-er...Garnet's a lady young, but mature. I can't explain Squall for you, he's a couple feathers short of a chocobo.

TheAbominatrix
04-08-2006, 06:06 AM
Naw dude. She's just going through a hard time thinking about her feelings for Zidane and going through puberty while doing this whole journey. Lots of stress.

While that's a good theory, it doesnt seem true. If I'm right, Garnet is 16 in the game, yes? Puberty is usually done by 14, and that's late.

What she is going through, however, is a process of maturing... she's growing up, seeing the world for the first time, and learning awful things about the woman she believes to be her mother. So yeah, the stress factor has to be there.

Miriel
04-08-2006, 06:12 AM
Naw dude. She's just going through a hard time thinking about her feelings for Zidane and going through puberty while doing this whole journey. Lots of stress.

While that's a good theory, it doesnt seem true. If I'm right, Garnet is 16 in the game, yes? Puberty is usually done by 14, and that's late.

What she is going through, however, is a process of maturing... she's growing up, seeing the world for the first time, and learning awful things about the woman she believes to be her mother. So yeah, the stress factor has to be there.
A lot of girls I knew didn't even get their periods until they were 15 or 16. So it's not that much of a stretch to think that she might have been going through puberty at the time. It's not likely, but it is possible. But I do agree with you that it was probably more about growing up in general rather than specifically puberty related.

Darth Cid
04-08-2006, 06:14 AM
Naw dude. She's just going through a hard time thinking about her feelings for Zidane and going through puberty while doing this whole journey. Lots of stress.

While that's a good theory, it doesnt seem true. If I'm right, Garnet is 16 in the game, yes? Puberty is usually done by 14, and that's late.

What she is going through, however, is a process of maturing... she's growing up, seeing the world for the first time, and learning awful things about the woman she believes to be her mother. So yeah, the stress factor has to be there.
A lot of girls I knew didn't even get their periods until they were 15 or 16. So it's not that much of a stretch to think that she might have been going through puberty at the time. It's not likely, but it is possible. But I do agree with you that it was probably more about growing up in general rather than specifically puberty related.

Garnet: I agree with these statements, there's a lot of reasons Garnet kept to herself and they've pretty much all been mentioned theorical and true, Garnet has been known in FFIX as the tortured heart for all these reasons.

The Fat Bioware Nerd
04-08-2006, 06:22 AM
Hey!!! You guys didn't answer my god damn question what does pwnd mean? I understand what wtf it means what the /xxx.gif/xxx.gif/xxx.gif/xxx.gif/xxx.gif...But what does PWND mean come on answer my question I don't want to go to that artist's corner or whatever it's called just to learn what that term means because I'm going to a little busy this month because I'm moving.

Twilight Edge
04-08-2006, 06:32 AM
Yeah I see 'pwn' everywhere but i have no idea what it means.Unless it means 'pawned'.

Darth Cid
04-08-2006, 06:32 AM
Hey!!! You guys didn't answer my god damn question what does pwnd mean? I understand what wtf it means what the /xxx.gif/xxx.gif/xxx.gif/xxx.gif/xxx.gif...But what does PWND mean come on answer my question I don't want to go to that artist's corner or whatever it's called just to learn what that term means because I'm going to a little busy this month because I'm moving.

Zidane: OWNED, the evolution of owned is pwnd, because people were too lazy to correct their typing, the o and p keys being so close together, so pwnd became a common word for internet lengo, meaning you got owned! You don't know rper, you don't know IMHO, are you new to the Internet? I'm sorry, I shouldn't insult you like that, my apologies.

Twilight Edge
04-08-2006, 06:34 AM
I know IMHO,IN MY HUMBLE OPINION(LIKE YOU TOLD ME),BUT NOT RPER.

The Fat Bioware Nerd
04-08-2006, 06:37 AM
Hey!!! You guys didn't answer my god damn question what does pwnd mean? I understand what wtf it means what the /xxx.gif/xxx.gif/xxx.gif/xxx.gif/xxx.gif...But what does PWND mean come on answer my question I don't want to go to that artist's corner or whatever it's called just to learn what that term means because I'm going to a little busy this month because I'm moving.

Zidane: OWNED, the evolution of owned is pwnd, because people were too lazy to correct their typing, the o and p keys being so close together, so pwnd became a common word for internet lengo, meaning you got owned! You don't know rper, you don't know IMHO, are you new to the Internet? I'm sorry, I shouldn't insult you like that, my apologies.

No I'm not new to the net but I am new to this message board /xxx.gif/xxx.gif/xxx.gif/xxx.gif!:D

Darth Cid
04-08-2006, 06:42 AM
Garnet: *bangs her head on the keyboard* bnhjyu7hj7hjyuhjy(what was typed when she banged her hand on the keyboard) *turns to Zidane and turns back to screen*, that lengo is used all over the Internet. Back on topic, Garnet is no female Squall, Aerith is. It's crystal clear, FFVIII, Squall is the main character for crying out loud, he adds nothing to the story. Garnet, FFIX, she's the lead female, her troubled past, her foster mother, going mute because of Alexandria's destruction, her personality of maturity, you get it.

The Fat Bioware Nerd
04-08-2006, 06:46 AM
Garnet: *bangs her head on the keyboard* bnhjyu7hj7hjyuhjy(what was typed when she banged her hand on the keyboard) *turns to Zidane* Zidane, did we really come to Earth for this, *turns back to screen*, that lengo is used all over the Internet. Back on topic, Garnet is no female Squall, Aerith is. It's crystal clear, FFVIII, Squall is the main character for crying out loud, he adds nothing to the story. Garnet, FFIX, she's the lead female, her troubled past, her foster mother, going mute because of Alexandria's destruction, her personality of maturity, you get it.

Well I never bothered to learn that stupid-ass lengo until now.LOL:D

Darth Cid
04-08-2006, 06:49 AM
Garnet: *bangs her head on the keyboard* bnhjyu7hj7hjyuhjy(what was typed when she banged her hand on the keyboard) *turns to Zidane* Zidane, did we really come to Earth for this, *turns back to screen*, that lengo is used all over the Internet. Back on topic, Garnet is no female Squall, Aerith is. It's crystal clear, FFVIII, Squall is the main character for crying out loud, he adds nothing to the story. Garnet, FFIX, she's the lead female, her troubled past, her foster mother, going mute because of Alexandria's destruction, her personality of maturity, you get it.

Well I never bothered to learn that stupid-ass lengo until now.LOL:D

Zidane: zomg, u haven't heard da lengo, omgwtflolz, back on topic plz. Otherwise, I am going to have to ask a Cid Knight to close this thread, you keep going off-topic, about internet lengo, instead of posting on topic in your own thread, it doesn't look good on you.

The Fat Bioware Nerd
04-08-2006, 07:12 AM
Alright I'll stay on topic! The reason why I've started this thread is because Garnet reminds me of Squall when she isn't enjoying herself at her birthday party because Squall wasn't enjoying himself either at his SeeD graduation party. The only difference is Garnet has better entertainment IMHO.:choc2:

Fantasy Fan
04-08-2006, 11:30 AM
Has anybody here noticed that Garnet is kind of like a female version of Squall? I mean Garnet pushes Zidane away a lot during FFIX and Squall and does the same with Rinoa in FFVIII. I know this for a fact because I read a post in another message board that said-"I hate Garnet for the way she treated Zidane in FFIX! Poor Zidane..."-or something along those lines.
It's because it's funny that way. Zidane is hitting on Garnet and Garnet makes him look a fool. Who wouldn't like that? She's playing with Zidane, duh.

Quindiana Jones
04-08-2006, 11:45 AM
Teasing's fun.

Darth Cid
04-08-2006, 03:55 PM
Zidane: Garnet's acts like a girl, what a concept. And Zidane acts like a guy, what a concept.