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The Fat Bioware Nerd
05-01-2006, 04:42 AM
What's the difference between rap and hip-hop? Or are they the same thing?:confused:

Zeromus_X
05-01-2006, 04:44 AM
I always assumed they are, though I'd hazard to guess that there's some sort of difference between them. :cat: You'd have to ask somebody who's knowledgable on that subject, and I'm sure someone here knows...:cat:

Roto13
05-01-2006, 04:46 AM
Hip hop is urban pop. Rap is talking, except there don't necissarily need to be any words involved.

escobert
05-01-2006, 08:55 AM
Hip hop is urban pop. Rap is talking, except there don't necissarily need to be any words involved.
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To tell you the truth, I don't know what the difference between them is. I think Hip-hop is the more clubish studd with singing and all that jazz, where as rap is more lyrical not so much beat oriented.

DK
05-01-2006, 01:05 PM
I always thought of Rap being the more aggressive of the two, with aggressive lyrics and the worse music out of the two. It's hard to explain, I don't know. (Some Rap music has really fucking crap music.) I'd class a lot of mainstream stuff under rap. Hip Hop I always thought had more upbeat music and messages, and generally old school stuff and pretty cool, a lot better. Stuff like De La Soul, that's what I think of as Hip Hop.

Cz
05-01-2006, 03:53 PM
I always thought that rap was a broad style of music, whereas hip-hop was something far more specific (much like rock has its divisions of metal, punk etc.). Hip-hop tends to be quite upbeat, and tends to be something you can dance to. Rap covers everything from the commercial stuff you hear on the radio to the UK Grime scene.

So yeah, all hip-hop is rap, but not all rap is hip-hop.

Rocket Edge
05-01-2006, 04:31 PM
I always thought that rap was a broad style of music, whereas hip-hop was something far more specific (much like rock has its divisions of metal, punk etc.). Hip-hop tends to be quite upbeat, and tends to be something you can dance to. Rap covers everything from the commercial stuff you hear on the radio to the UK Grime scene.

So yeah, all hip-hop is rap, but not all rap is hip-hop.
It is quite this discription.

Hip-Hop is something to listen to in a club and everyone going crazy, something like 50 cents candy shop or something, rap more concentrates on the lyrics, such as a song from 2pac or whatever.

Dreddz
05-01-2006, 04:55 PM
Hip Hop and Rap are the same thing :eep:

Mirage
05-01-2006, 08:11 PM
Hip Hop is a musical genre, while rap is a certain way of talking. You can rap in a hip-hop song, and you can make hip hop without rapping in them.

Shoeberto
05-01-2006, 10:30 PM
Hip Hop is a musical genre, while rap is a certain way of talking. You can rap in a hip-hop song, and you can make hip hop without rapping in them.
Yeah, that's what I thought.

Hip-hop is a type of music that specializes in a very particular type of steady, heavy percussion, usually digitally generated for regularity. Rap is the method of talking.

Dark God-Emperor
05-08-2006, 03:38 PM
Hip hop is a culture...Rap is the music owned by this culture(sorry for my impossible-to-understand english...)

Chris
05-08-2006, 03:43 PM
Hip hop is a culture...Rap is the music owned by this culture(sorry for my impossible-to-understand english...)
That is 100 percent correct. Hip Hop is not a music genre, it's a culture. Rap/ Proto rap/ r'n'b/ soul and so on are a part of the Hip Hop culture.

Shiny
05-08-2006, 10:05 PM
There are different types of rap. Generally speaking, there is really only one type of hip-hop. Rap is when people rhyme usuing melodic tones and what not. It's mostly urban poetry. Some of it is crap and repetitive. If done right though it can turn out to be very meaningful poetry. Hip-hop is when a soloist, or group of singers sing to an urban beat. It doesn't include the smooth rythmic jazz feeling that R & b entails. However, Hip-hop is also the music itself. Hip-hop is harder to explain, because it means so many things. But mostly only to people who can aprreciate the greatness that is the Hip-Hop culture. They are NOT the same. Personally Hip-Hop is better, because it has a more positive image and requires more talent.

Rap: 50 cent, Eminem, Kayne West, Snoop Dog
Hip-Hop: 112, Amerie, Mary J. Blige, Namie Amuro (foreign Hip-Hop):D

chaos_ghost
05-08-2006, 11:55 PM
There are different types of rap. Generally speaking, there is really only one type of hip-hop. Rap is when people rhyme usuing melodic tones and what not. It's mostly urban poetry. Some of it is crap and repetitive. If done right though it can turn out to be very meaningful poetry. Hip-hop is when a soloist, or group of singers sing to an urban beat. It doesn't include the smooth rythmic jazz feeling that R & b entails. However, Hip-hop is also the music itself. Hip-hop is harder to explain, because it means so many things. But mostly only to people who can aprreciate the greatness that is the Hip-Hop culture. They are NOT the same. Personally Hip-Hop is better, because it has a more positive image and requires more talent.

Rap: 50 cent, Eminem, Kayne West, Snoop Dog
Hip-Hop: 112, Amerie, Mary J. Blige, Namie Amuro (foreign Hip-Hop):D

Exactly.

What causes all the confuision is people with no knowledge of either just calling it one or the other

Ya Boy Alex
05-10-2006, 03:15 AM
There are different types of rap. Generally speaking, there is really only one type of hip-hop. Rap is when people rhyme usuing melodic tones and what not. It's mostly urban poetry. Some of it is crap and repetitive. If done right though it can turn out to be very meaningful poetry. Hip-hop is when a soloist, or group of singers sing to an urban beat. It doesn't include the smooth rythmic jazz feeling that R & b entails. However, Hip-hop is also the music itself. Hip-hop is harder to explain, because it means so many things. But mostly only to people who can aprreciate the greatness that is the Hip-Hop culture. They are NOT the same. Personally Hip-Hop is better, because it has a more positive image and requires more talent.

Rap: 50 cent, Eminem, Kayne West, Snoop Dog
Hip-Hop: 112, Amerie, Mary J. Blige, Namie Amuro (foreign Hip-Hop):D
While mostly correct the artist's you listed actually fall under other spectrums.
Kanye West actually belongs under Hip Hop. 112, Amerie, and Mary J would actually be considered R n' B artists. Hip Hop is when a an artist group or machine record to an urban beat using a rhyming scheme as the base of the lyrics. Same goes for rap. People also have to remember that rap is Hip Hop but Hip Hop is not Rap.

-N-
05-10-2006, 04:30 AM
Mirage's definition is correct. You win!