Why doesn't anyone give this game credit??

[daggertrepe]

Seriously, this is my FAV ff game...and no one gives it credit! I like it a bit better thatn 7 even, and whta do you see? They are making all these sequals to 7? I think they should give this great game more credit and a sequel with more Beatrix! (And Steiner as the cherry on top!)

I mean even a cruddy game like 8 gets more acclaim, and that is SAD!

[NeoCracker]

While I agree, a sequal might ruin it.

[daggertrepe]

True...let's just leave it to fanfictions.

[LunarWeaver]

Is this a positive thread, talking about how good the game is? I've never seen one before... So this is what positive looks like in a forum. *Pokes it* Feels like a peep... Pink and sugary.

IX came out at the end of the Ps1's lifetime, so that probably had something to do with it... Plus all the character models were 110% cute and some people couldn't handle that much adorable all at once, it gave them seizures.

[Zeromus_X]

It was marketed poorly in NA, that's for sure. That, and the newer fans who'd never played the older games were kinda in for a surprise. Still, anyone who doesn't like this game shouldn't ever call themselves an FF fan. :cat:

[boys from the dwarf]

every time someone starts anything like a "why does everyone hate" thread their always completely proven wrong. FF9 is my favourite game and i like it so much that im going to buy a memory card and fill it all with FF9 data at all of the different locations so i can play all of those fantastic part again whenever i choose. FF9 is a bit of a "you either love it or hate it" game but the majority of FF fans absoloutely love it and have it in their top FF list.

[Cid Vicious]

I love it.
:up:

[Twilight Edge]

Second that.It's the first I ever played and I will never say that FFIX is a bad game.NEVER.

[Zellmfh]

ff7 was the beginning of a new generation in the ff series. The only obvious choice for game that should have a sequel was ff7. it broke all the sales records at that time. and none of the games past ff7 have more credit. I agree too, I find ff9 the best game in the series. But its all about about money, and square cound not be sure if people were thrilled to hear that ff9 has sequel. but with 7, they did. if only all these individual wishes could be granted :p

[daggertrepe]

True, all of this...but it's just that more ppl like 7 and 8, and I don't know why. Especially 8. :mad:

FFIX IS the best game, I'm sure everyone in here would agree. It's a masterpiece for sure, and it's the first one I beat...so it will always have a special place in my heart. I NEVER get sick of this game! It just makes me feel all warm and fluffy inside. None of the other games did that.

[Mr.Red]

Seriously, this is my FAV ff game...and no one gives it credit! I like it a bit better thatn 7 even, and whta do you see? They are making all these sequals to 7? I think they should give this great game more credit and a sequel with more Beatrix! (And Steiner as the cherry on top!)

I mean even a cruddy game like 8 gets more acclaim, and that is SAD!


I could'nt agree more, when I saw the subtitle before going into this section I wondered too why no one gave it credit, FF7 has about 4 0r 5 other games/movies to the accual game, but this one has nothing...at least make something for it:(

[LunarWeaver]

I'm not sure if it it's a new/ old Final Fantasy fan deal. I'm only 20, so when VII came out I was 11. It was the first Final Fantasy I played, and I didn't even understand half of it at the time.

But I became a fan of RPGs, not the number attached to the game, so 'the first one I played', or art direction, or combat system (where's my materia la la la etc.), or all that hoobla boobla doesn't really matter to me... IX is still one of the best games ever devised, and I played VII first ^.^; Gamers are just notorious for being highly critical of everyone and everything. Must be because we're all such hipsters :choc2:

[Slim]

I was 6 years old and briefly tried FF7 on my friends computer. I did not yet own a PSX, so I would play it as often as possible. At the ripe old age of 9 I finally purchased my first PSX (out of about 3) from my local used video game dealer (I happen to work for that exact dealer now!). I went out looking for FF7 and happened to come across FF9. Well, it wasn't seven, but it was new and different, and I was 9, so I bought it (for thirty dollars from the same exact used video game dealer). I was overjoyed with the amazing game I had purchased and could not believe the luck that I must have come across. I played it constantly, non-stop, whenever smurfing possible! (Just so you know, I actually typed smurfing, it's not the default F-WORD censor.) When I got stuck (I was NINE), I went out and bought FF8. I almost lost all respect for the FF series (...I was nine). It was horrifying (I'm sure the fact that they weren't the loveable characters I had remembered had something to do with that....remember, I was at a young age). I guess what I am trying to say is, I am 15 years old and playing, probably my third copy of FF9 and still think it is my favourite. I blows all those damn PS2 versions out of the water. I will never stop playing FF9. Final Fantasy 7 is second only to FF9, but by a whole helluva lot. FF7 was amazing, but FF9 was extraordinary.



FF8 sucked man parts.

[Cless]

FF9 doesn't get the credit it deserves because the protagonist quite clearly has a huge wang hanging out of his arse.

Good game though.

[Darth Cid]

Zidane: It's a tail...this is the greatest game in the world, bar none. Thank you!

[NeoCracker]

Zidane: It's a tail...this is the greatest game in the world, bar none. Thank you!
While I disagree with that its the greatest final fantasy ever.

[Quindiana Jones]

Still, anyone who doesn't like this game shouldn't ever call themselves an FF fan. :cat:

Amen.

[Chris]

I've always considered FFIX my favourite. I love every little thing about it, and I don't really care what people have to say about it.

[Vivisteiner]

According to Wilpedia FFVII sold something like 8 million copies and FFVIII roughly 7 million. Whereas FFIX only sold 5 million which I think didnt do the game justice. I think it may have been because of the slightly cartoonish characters.

[LunarWeaver]

5 Million x 50$ = 250,000,000 dollars :O Sounds good enough to me >_< Not that every copy is sold for 50 dollars I know.

Yeah IX is severely less popular then it's two playstation predecessors, but it's not like it bombed either like a certain Final Fantasy movie.

The director of IX is a cinematic cutscene director for XII I think ^.^

I love VIII and VII and IX all equally though... No need to go hatin' now >_>;

[Slim]

FF9 doesn't get the credit it deserves because the protagonist quite clearly has a huge wang hanging out of his arse.

Good game though.

A completely uncalled for comment. Not in any way does his tail look like a 'wang.'

[Darth Cid]

FF9 doesn't get the credit it deserves because the protagonist quite clearly has a huge wang hanging out of his arse.

Good game though.

A completely uncalled for comment. Not in any way does his tail look like a 'wang.'

Zidane: I agree.

[Fantasy Fan]

Seriously, this is my FAV ff game...and no one gives it credit! I like it a bit better thatn 7 even, and whta do you see? They are making all these sequals to 7? I think they should give this great game more credit and a sequel with more Beatrix! (And Steiner as the cherry on top!)

I mean even a cruddy game like 8 gets more acclaim, and that is SAD!
well, I think they're going to make 7 FFVIIs. But I'm not sure about a sequal to 9. Maybe a film wqould do. ;)

What I use in an areguement is, "FFVII was so porely designed the only kind thing was to do it all again" no offense to any 7 fans ;)

[Slim]

What I use in an areguement is, "FFVII was so porely designed the only kind thing was to do it all again" no offense to any 7 fans ;)

No offense taken, however, consider the timeframe in which it was built. Never mind the fact that it was released in 1997, note that it must have been in production for years beforehand.

[Yuffie514]

1) Tetra Master
i usually hate mini-games, but as long as i can win and win some more, then i'll be happy.

2) Chocobo
sure, it's a lot of work, but worth it. if i could do the same thing in MMO, why should i need an airship pass :tongue: ?

3) Music
if Final Fantasy VIII is first, then this is second...

[Dagger666]

Not even the newest ff games can come close to being as awsome as 9.

[Cless]

A completely uncalled for comment. Not in any way does his tail look like a 'wang.'

Zidane: I agree.
Oh come on, lighten up people! My comment was clearly tongue in cheek. In no way was it intended as a thinly veiled insult towards FF9, nor do I believe that Zidane's tail resembles a phallus. I apologise if my sarcasm didn't come through. I do believe, however, that the tail, and the chibi graphical style in general, did perhaps make some gamers take this game less seriously, and wrongly so.

FF9 is one of my favourite FF's. I practically cried tears of joy at the ending!

[daggertrepe]

Beatrix rocked, and I do think this was the best game of the series, also with the best music!

[~SapphireStar~]

Seriously, this is my FAV ff game...and no one gives it credit! I like it a bit better thatn 7 even, and whta do you see? They are making all these sequals to 7? I think they should give this great game more credit and a sequel with more Beatrix! (And Steiner as the cherry on top!)

I mean even a cruddy game like 8 gets more acclaim, and that is SAD!
Yes it may be your fav, but it isnt everyones. I guess a reason it doesnt get credit is because of its style and characters. FF7 & 8 stood up and made people take notice of the series, when 9 appeared, maybe because it didnt have the sci fi theme of the last 2 games it was shunned? I dont know. IMO its the worst and I love 8 mainly because it was the first FF I experinced.

[Slim]

A completely uncalled for comment. Not in any way does his tail look like a 'wang.'

Zidane: I agree.
Oh come on, lighten up people! My comment was clearly tongue in cheek. In no way was it intended as a thinly veiled insult towards FF9, nor do I believe that Zidane's tail resembles a phallus. I apologise if my sarcasm didn't come through. I do believe, however, that the tail, and the chibi graphical style in general, did perhaps make some gamers take this game less seriously, and wrongly so.

FF9 is one of my favourite FF's. I practically cried tears of joy at the ending!

Okay, I will apologize for my aggressive reply. I thought you were being serious. IX kicks the 'crap' out of VIII. VIII sucked monkey ballsack. (Not Zidanes, an actual monkey. Like chimp and everything.)


Slim, please try to use some language that is less on the crude side. ~ Leeza

[daggertrepe]

Does that mean you hate IX?, SapphireStar?

[LunarWeaver]

Must it always be love or hate, yin or yang, good or bad, happy or sad, ninjas or pirates. Can't we all just live in the yucky gray area between the absolutes like me. I built a cabin there ^_^

[FF_crazy]

Must it always be love or hate, yin or yang, good or bad, happy or sad, ninjas or pirates. Can't we all just live in the yucky gray area between the absolutes like me. I built a cabin there ^_^ it has to be NINJAS:D and FF9 is awesome but the one i like the most is 7 FF8 and 9 are equal with me

[RyanML]

i never used to like 9, before a week or so ago, i only played the 1st few hours of it and could never get into it... but then i started playing it and have really gotten into it... its not as good as 7 or 8 (8s my fave game of all time) but it still is a seriously good game

[Lakenbelle]

I love FF8. 7's my favorite, but 8's my second favorite. FF9 would be my fourth, after FFX. Sorry. But, still, it's an awesome game. I love everything about it. I just like everything about FF7, 8 and 10 more.

[~SapphireStar~]

Does that mean you hate IX?, SapphireStar?
Yes it does.

[Quindiana Jones]

Egad!

[Slim]

Egad, Indeed.

[daggertrepe]

Then why are you posting here just to tell us how much you hate this game?

Go join your FF8 groupies or whatever. :mad: I respect your opinion, but if you hate the game then don't post. :mad: But then again, I did ask the question of why people hate it.

And besides if you ask me, FFIX is much better than VIII in every way. Remember, this was the first FF game I beat, and VIII was the last one I experienced, so what can I say.

Sry if I offended anyone!

And by the way, FFIX is NOT the worst game, its the best! :D

[~SapphireStar~]

Because there isnt anywhere that says you cant. The mods have said its ok to post your opinions here. Plus that question was aimed at both parties.

Go join your FF8 groupies or whatever. I respect your opinion, but if you hate the game then don't post. But then again, I did ask the question of why people hate it.
If you repsect my opinion, why post that? You have contradicted yourself twice in that statemment. You ask the question, people answer. You dont like it, have a go yet respect our opinions. If that contiunes, the mods will be informed.

[daggertrepe]

Hasn't anyone ever noticed how the FFIX fans hate the FFVIII fans and vice versa?

And I wasn't trying offend you...jeez.

[~SapphireStar~]

And I wasn't trying offend you...jeez
Im sorry, but dont jeez me. That line:

Go join your FF8 groupies or whatever.
Did offend me because you have no right to label somone into a cateorgy. Dont post such things if you dont mean to offend others. And who said FF8 fans hate FF9 fans? We hate the game, not the fans.

[daggertrepe]

Ok this is stupid. I'm sry for offending you. Let's respect each other for our opinions, k? :D You just came off a little hard...and I got a little offended. I know you did too. I'm sry.

[~SapphireStar~]

Hard? Please did i heck. I never said I didnt respect your opinion. I answered your question and got grief.
Move on now. No more crap.

[Quindiana Jones]

Saph Star, I think you took Sakura's comment too personally. Also, if you say FFVIII is your favourite game, you should expect to be categorised.

Sakura: You didn't ask why people hate this game. You asked why it didn't get credit. Small change, big difference. As you can tell by FF9 haters responses... :D

[daggertrepe]

Yes, sapphirestar would have done the same thing if I had posted that on her topic in FFVIII, and she did take it too personally, but thats all behind us! :D What can I say? I will stand up for my fav game ANY DAY against ANYONE!!

[Slim]

Go join your FF8 groupies or whatever.
you have no right to label somone into a cateorgy.

Easy, buddy. That sounds WAY to professional. Quite frankly, do you even know 'rights?' You are obviously a groupie. I'm not trying to offend, I'm pointing out facts. Posting a hate post about FF9, in a FF9 thread, and posting how much better 8 is, makes you an FF8 groupie. And, all of us who protect 9 are FF9 groupies. I know I am.

[daggertrepe]

Ditto...thx for backin me up guys!

I AM a FFIX groupie...and I love the ones around me!

But really...just stay out if you don't like FFIX!!! And I'm talkin to all FFIX haters! I asked the ppl who love it with ME, not the ppl who despise it.

If I wanted haters to review, I would have posted it somewhere else.

The line "Why doesn't anyone give this game credit?" Is something I asked the luvas becuz WE love it. I wanted to know the opinion of them why OTHERS hated it becuz I couldn't figure out why. And when haters answer, the answer is never valid becuz they hate the game, of course they are going to say bad things about it. Not TRYING to offend, just expressing my opinion. If you hate this game, you hate it, and if you love it, you love it and that's that. Not trying to label people, it's the truth.

Peace out.

[Slim]

....and if you have the drive to defend the game of your choice, of in Saphy's case, be offended by someone liking another game better, then you are definately a groupie. LIKE ME!

[daggertrepe]

True dat! :p

[Miriel]

Hey guys, please don't attack people for having opinions that are different from yours.

And this goes both ways. If you hate the game, don't attack people for liking it. If you like the game, don't bash people who didn't like it. Everyone has a right to post their opinions here as long as they do it in a respectful manner. Please, no more bickering.



The line "Why doesn't anyone give this game credit?" Is something I asked the luvas becuz WE love it. I wanted to know the opinion of them why OTHERS hated it becuz I couldn't figure out why. And when haters answer, the answer is never valid becuz they hate the game, of course they are going to say bad things about it. Not TRYING to offend, just expressing my opinion. If you hate this game, you hate it, and if you love it, you love it and that's that. Not trying to label people, it's the truth.

Peace out.
Wouldn't someone who disliked the game have more insight into the reasons why they didn't give the game any credit rather than people who already love the game? I would think that the fans would have less validity in this matter than the people who aren't fans of the game.

[Jimmy Dark Aeons Slayer]

How this seemed more like a conflict instead of a good old fashion debate...
Take me for example i played FFs from VI to X, and i liked them all a lot...to this day i still think that the story doesn´t get old and the different types of batle systems and command options are always inovative.
Of course if i had to say my favorite FF i would probably select FFVIII, followed by FFVII,FFVI,FFIX and lastly FFX.
But that doesn´t mean i despise FFIX or FFX it just means that the other three FFs i played were more cativating acording to my standards of course:)
In fact let me tell you something that i have hated from FFVII to FFX:
Why the hell is every main male character BLOND???????????

Gezz that´s lack of ideias why couldn´t it be a brown hair guy or a black dude...

[~SapphireStar~]

In fact let me tell you something that i have hated from FFVII to FFX:
Why the hell is every main male character BLOND???????????
Squall had brown hair, guess he was a breakthrough.

[Jimmy Dark Aeons Slayer]

Well ok i´ll give you that Squall does have light brown hair...that´s another bonus for FFVIII

But a monkey tail that was also something new...point for FFIX there;)

[daggertrepe]

Hey SS, I like yr signatures...how'd you make them? Is it possible that u could make 1 for me? :)

[Psychotic]

Hey SS, I like yr signatures...how'd you make them? Is it possible that u could make 1 for me? :)Please make this kind of a request in the Signature Service Thread (http://forums.eyesonff.com/showthread.php?t=77901) and not in this thread.

Now really, let's all get back to talking about Final Fantasy IX's lack of credit.

[rubah]

I give ff9 no credit because I got incredibly bored playing it.

[Levian]

Hey SS, I like yr signatures...how'd you make them? Is it possible that u could make 1 for me? :)Please make this kind of a request in the Signature Service Thread (http://forums.eyesonff.com/showthread.php?t=77901) and not in this thread.

Now really, let's all get back to talking about Final Fantasy IX's lack of credit.

First of all; oh my god. xD

Man, it's weird to see you like this. :D still nice though. I've always meant you'd make an excellent knight.

Anyway, I'll follow your command and discuss FFIX's credit receiving. :tonberry: FFIX does get credit, a lot of people like it. People are just influenced by the millions of "omg why does everyone hate FFIX?!" threads. :tonberry:

[klipkloper]

when i saw my sister playing it all i thought was wtf, why is that girl a mouse

lol,my sis made me play it and after the first 3 minutes of the game it was and still is my favorite game.

so the rat-girl might be making like people reluctant to play it.

or it might be rare
even though like all ps1 ff games are it might be one of the most?

[Ace14]

The first time I played FF9 was because of FF7. I like both games its just FF9 is better.:D It wasn't that boring, if it was for some people games tend to take a while to get better.

[NeoCracker]

And besides if you ask me, FFIX is much better than VIII in every way.

I agree except on one point, VIII's main Female was much sexier than IX's.

[Ace14]

I think Dagger looks better than... whoever that girl is in FFVIII( Forgot her name):D

[NeoCracker]

Rinoa, though yes, I do like Dagger.

[Ace14]

Oh yeah I remember Rinoa, she wasn't that bad.:D

[J.Raven]

Seriously, this is my FAV ff game...and no one gives it credit! I like it a bit better thatn 7 even, and whta do you see? They are making all these sequals to 7? I think they should give this great game more credit and a sequel with more Beatrix! (And Steiner as the cherry on top!)

I mean even a cruddy game like 8 gets more acclaim, and that is SAD!It took me a while to decide whether to join this forum or not. For a FF9 fan like myself, I thought this was a gold mine because asking around I found many so called FF fans thinking FF7 was better.
I stuck to what I believed because I thought FF9 had the storyline going for it and the character design was great. Body proportion is a poor factor to be used to determine how good a game is or not, especially in FF9.

Put it simply, bad timing, bad sale methods on Square Enix's part, and others you can find in Wikipedia on FF9 explain why FF9 as a game had its great potential wasted. One reason mentioned in there which I found ridiculous was because Zidane's cheerful character was a break from the moodiness of the main characters of FF7 and FF8. I think that is crap because Zidane's personality reminds us that those who look on the bright side of things go a long way. In his case, he got Queen Garnet's heart at the end. Could a guy ask for more?

Or how about where the new generation of players not exposed to the first few FF games thought the modern style of FF7 and 8 were the way to go. So when FF9 came out, its medieval feel disappointed them. Talk about suffering from 'closed mind' disease.

If there was a movie to be made of FF9, it needs to be done carefully to reclaim what was lost. Though I doubt it. I was so impressed by the gripping storyline I have tried doing a fanfic about it as well, but I doubt it will see the light of day.

Oh yeah and I always believed that General Beatrix is the most beautiful female character of any console game ever. I first saw her in two FMVs using music from U2: Elevation and Tal Bachman's: She's So High where she opens the door for Garnet, and she just blew me away.

[Quindiana Jones]

Rinoa, though yes, I do like Dagger.


Ooh yeah I did prefer Rinoa. Though I guess she, and the other FF8 characters, looked more human than the old-school cartooniness of FF9.

Still, if they were real, I wouldn't say no to either ;)

[J.Raven]

The hands of the FF9 characters, agreeably, were a little too big, so I guess its up to the Doujinshis to set them right.

[Fantasy Fan]

The hands of the FF9 characters, agreeably, were a little too big, so I guess its up to the Doujinshis to set them right.

I kinda thought that too. But if they remake it for the PS2/3 then they'll notice that mistake and make the game look a whole lot better! Graphic and Sound wise.

[Quindiana Jones]

Can't really get much better with music though...and voice-overs, I reckon, would ruin the game. *thinks of FF10, shudders*

[Slim]

*shudders*

[Lakenbelle]

I love Garnet. She's my second favorite FF female after Rinoa. I love them both so much.

[SiberianKiss]

Um....maybe it's just me, but I found the music in FFIX to be the weakest in the series (next to FFV). Only a handful of tunes are truly memorable. In my opinion, it doesn't come close to the music of VI or VII.

And Tetra Master is.....really annoying. I prefer the simplistic Triple Triad over Tetra MAster, which seems to have no real logic to it. More powerful cards losing to piss poor weak ones for no reason? Exactly how does that work? Thanks, Square.

Those are really my only problems with the game, though. This is my favorite entry in the series. The story is amazing, and it hooked me like no other had (well, FFX came awfully close).

[~SapphireStar~]

I prefered Tetra Master in 9 to it in FF8, although Ive been ripped at by people saying they are the same game. OK! Ive just had more wins in Tetra Master then the card game for 8! Thats all.

[LunarWeaver]

Use the LunarStrategy to win at Tetra Master:

1)Get some cards
2)Randomly place cards everywhere
3)Win the game

Works everytime for me *smokes pipe of wisdom*

[Sjorn]

I seriously love Final Fantasy IX.

I even remember the first day I got it; I even thought Zidane was a girl and changed his name to a girl's name. It wasn't till Dali that I realised that he was a boy and I restarted the game. XD

Good times...

[~SapphireStar~]

Use the LunarStrategy to win at Tetra Master:

1)Get some cards
2)Randomly place cards everywhere
3)Win the game

Thats what I did :D

[Quindiana Jones]

Ooh I've pretty much figured it out. Though sometimes the 0P00 Goblin beating the FAFF Odin does confuse me...(0P00 is one of the worst, FAFF is the best)

[Slim]

I seriously love Final Fantasy IX.

I even remember the first day I got it; I even thought Zidane was a girl and changed his name to a girl's name. It wasn't till Dali that I realised that he was a boy and I restarted the game. XD

Good times...

Exactly the same thing happened to me!

[J.Raven]

I seriously love Final Fantasy IX.

I even remember the first day I got it; I even thought Zidane was a girl and changed his name to a girl's name. It wasn't till Dali that I realised that he was a boy and I restarted the game. XD

Good times...I thought the same thing too, but I just went with the flow. It would get worse when going to Bran Bal. That's why cloning is not nice.

[daggertrepe]

Zidane is hott...how could you mistake him for a GIRL, lol?

[Darth Cid]

Does that mean you hate IX?, SapphireStar?
Yes it does.

Zidane: Here we go again with the fanpeople who only like their first game and go through the stage where they find flaws in everything else. Have you even played the first five games? It's FFVI, FFVII, and FFVIII that Square should be a shamed of, they were doing great with the fairytale style. I can go on forever about how FFIX throughly pwns FFVIII. Oh, and before you consider me hypocritical, my first FF was IV(released II here in the states at the time.).

[~SapphireStar~]

Ive played all the FFs, except 3 because it hasnt had a UK release. This has been settled already. We have moved on, do the same.

[Azure Chrysanthemum]

ZidaneAndGarnet you don't need to jump on everybody who says they dislike FFIX. People are entitled to their own opinions on games, and those opinions won't always match.

[Slim]

ZidaneAndGarnet you don't need to jump on everybody who says they dislike FFIX. People are entitled to their own opinions on games, and those opinions won't always match.

As I agree that he doesn't need to go around accusing members of being fanpeople, I would say in this case that he is absolutely correct. Still, no need to make confrontation.

[J.Raven]

Zidane is hott...how could you mistake him for a GIRL, lol?I think its the hair and the ponytail, but I think just at the beginning when they discuss how to capture the princess it was obvious that he was a guy who knew how to kick ass.

[Darth Cid]

Ive played all the FFs, except 3 because it hasnt had a UK release. This has been settled already. We have moved on, do the same.

Zidane: Excuse me for replying something you said late. I wanted to state my opinion, that's all.


ZidaneAndGarnet you don't need to jump on everybody who says they dislike FFIX. People are entitled to their own opinions on games, and those opinions won't always match.

Zidane: My apologies for confrontation. I thought I was just stating I feel as well.


I think its the hair and the ponytail, but I think just at the beginning when they discuss how to capture the princess it was obvious that he was a guy who knew how to kick ass.

Zidane: I still fail to see it. Zidane never looked like a girl to me. Kuja sure as heck looked like one to me at first, but not Zidane.

[Quindiana Jones]

I didn't even think Kuja looked like a girl.

[Setzer Gabianni]

This is the only FF where I actually liked a female character a LOT - Beatrix. Man, she kicked ass. <3

~Setzer Gabianni

[daggertrepe]

Agreed!

[Fantasy Fan]

Oh yeah I remember Rinoa, she wasn't that bad.:D
you probably just stare at her ass when she's dancing. I do :D

[Slim]

For 1, infatuation with a video game character is disgusting, and 2, I just started playing this game again.

[Ya Boy Alex]

There are forum descriptions for a reason.

"There was no IX! They skipped a Final Fantasy!" "Was too. The guy had a tail." "Was it a sword tail?"

[Slim]

I...I don't get it?

[Psychotic]

It's a Penny Arcade reference. (And so are the FFVII, FFVIII and FFX forum descriptions for that matter)

[Quindiana Jones]

I like pennies. Shiny shiny pennies.

[daggertrepe]

Wow it's funny how this can get so off topic so easily...

[Holy Lancer]

Seriously, this is my FAV ff game...and no one gives it credit! I like it a bit better thatn 7 even, and whta do you see? They are making all these sequals to 7? I think they should give this great game more credit and a sequel with more Beatrix! (And Steiner as the cherry on top!)

I mean even a cruddy game like 8 gets more acclaim, and that is SAD!

You're my hero, but a sequel would ruin it. This game gets put down so much when it has the most side quests, mini games, and secrets (which made it even better). This game was by far the best. I really liked Tetra Master too, it was a lot better than FF8's weird confusing card game. :mog:

[daggertrepe]

Yeah I wrote that when I was like 11. :)

[Bolivar]

I see this game get its due from plenty of people. Me being one of them.

[speedemon35]

SO lets see adding to the original discussion:

FF9 was quite clearly a good game. I doubt anyone ever understood how to really play tetra master. If they did they're some sort of genius:P I just collected the cards with the most arrows on them as possible(thats probably the reason why i played over 1500 tetra master games really) and then i'd rely on cards such as the invincible and the chocobo cards to win:P Somehow that got me through without any problems.

Probably for me the best thing is FF9: their improvement to the chocobo part of the game, the way hidden treasures were set up and the whole map thing and running around using your chocobo as some hacksaw. Definitely hilarious and made those little side quest things a must. Also the fact that he evolves with smoke and you can actually go around some parts of the game inside those special zones getting points and upgrading your beak lvl. Not to mention by doing all this you got access to the real part of the game: getting those weapons as rewards was a must. All the people i know that didn't bother with these could never finish the game and claimed Ark was possibly the strongest thing in the game. Heck using Ragnarok and Excalibur(only weapon names i recall atm) and using those nice techniques for constant 9999 damage owned any enemy badly:P

Besides that getting and keeping all weapons and whatnot just to get the different endings seemed like something interesting( and the mere fact the beating the hell out of hades gave me some pleasure too and getting his play card was also godly when you had the one with all the arrows).

Another thing that was quite enjoyable was your treasure hunting rank. Getting those coffee beans and the zodiac coins and the little dolls and miniature models was a thing simply too good to be missed

Apart from that the gfx were more cartoonish like which was something new. Personally i enjoyed it since it made the game more life like for me( i could never get over how FF7 was polygon style and ff8 had still bizarre shapes).

But sadly ff9 has its flaws:

For starters i never really understood that character Quina. To be honest i never really needed him nor his blue magic skills. I only used him when i was forced to. It did make that personal aim to get all the blue magic by myself rather interesting but besides that he seldom had any real part in the game. Didn't require him for any boss battle what so ever, not even the battle against Ozma.

Another fairly poor thing is that the game was simply too easy to beat. There was no real challenge in any fight to be honest. Kuja was full of wimp attacks And quite frankly The first time i played through and beat the living hell out of Necron I though he was like some preliminary boos before i went up against some absurdly high HP monster with deadly attacks. You can imagine how disappointed i was when after killing it nothing else shows up besides the ending and the credits. I even witnessed my at the time 10 year old sister who had no gaming experience what so ever beat the living hell out of Kuja and Necron without me even opening my mouth to tell her what to do. I just showed her what each attack did beforehand and how to select stuff and did the rest on her own. Same thing went for Ozma. For a thing that was supposed to be the ultimate challenge in FF9 simply having staff of Zeus mastered and armor that absorbed shadow damage was enough to kill it in around 7 or less minutes made me quite sad too. Only thing i never really managed to do was to eat him with Quina ability(probably the hardest thing to do so leaving him with low hp was quite challenging without dealing a final blow) So i never really found out if i could really eat him or not. To add on to this you didn't require to even train your characters. First time i finished the game Zidane was almost lvl 60 and therest were still low 50s. There was never the need to go beyond that point besides the mere curiosity of how much damage i could do with their initial weapons if they were leveled all the way to 99. SO basicly this game required very little strategy. You didn't even need to use limit breaks at any point to kill anything although they were pretty cool to watch.


Moving on to FF8:

Possibly the game i enjoyed the least because i wasn't able to finish it completely the first time i played. Some of the little side quests were quite possibly unthinkable of for me and i only learned about them after following an extensive giude the second time around. needless to say i only learned on my second play about how to get the characters ultimate weapons and how to kill Omega and Ultima weapon without having to rely on converting time after time my Gilgamesh card and using summons after summons to deal the damage. The first time i played the game i had to get Eden via the cheap way. Surprisingly enough i didn't seem to have any actual problem killing Ultimecia since i did have my summons at high lvls and my magic junctions seemed to be flawless for killing her:P

Only the second time around was I able to get full limit breaks, ultimate weapons and maxed out ammo for them as well as being able to make perfect limit breaks with the trigger thing.

Possibly the FF that took me the longest to complete. The fact that i became a TT addict(triple triad) also helped a bit with getting the full collection of cards and turning them into valuable items for though battles played a role in it. Getting summon and character cards was a big part of the game and a quite fun thing too.

There were also a few new added things into ff8 that other FFs don't have: the fact that you could actually boost your summons str and if it were high enough you could flush them out of the screen or make them vanish in a tornado appealed to me. Sucks though when I tried to send bosses away and almost managed but they always resisted by an inch or 2. Also the fact that the way you received the summons in FF8 was completely different. Having to draw them from boss battles most of the times was definitely a very good addition.

Last but not least lest not forget about how simply amazing the Ragnarok was:P Flying that thing around the globe was one of my favorites

But a few things were a bit off: the characters in FF8 were a bit:S
They were more human like that in any other FFS up till that day but still they looked like squares and rectangles moving at some point. If they were more cartoonish like i would have preferred it that way but i guess thats just me:P


That and the whole thing about that dream world where Laguna and friends take over. For some reason i never enjoyed those part. I enjoyed the Laguna TT card thats for sure as well as Kiros but going through the game as them and all the party dreaming about them all of a sudden just seemed like possibly the dumbest thing to me. Their involvement in the entire story is too weak up till the end of the 3rd cd and i guess i never really liked them in the first place.

Although i'd easily play FF8 again just for the battle system and how all the junction thing works. Not to mention now that i suddenly recalled how to get Doom Train i had to go through hell to get it but it was things like those that made it worth it:P


On to FF7:

I'll say his at the very start: my favorite FF of all times. I bought the PS just for this and I've beaten the game over 20 times now. I suppose i was easily influenced by my friends older brothers who also had the game and showed me how to play it.
I quite simply loved the storyline even though you just go around sephiroth most of the game that didn't bother me. I remember the thrill of killing the weapons, mastering the summons, finding out on your own how to get the red submarine and how to unlock bahamut zero and how to get th e characters best weapon and limits. It was also the introduction of the chocobos thing(for me at least since i had never played any FF before), the breeding them, racing them, mating them for the gold and finding out about the ultimate summon KOTR:P

Another great thing about it was not that obvious unless you read about side quest for the master materias. Getting them was definitely something. Mastering all the regular materias on your own, killing the emerald and ruby weapons with carefully planned tactics and scoring big in the battle arena were some of the best challenges around. I don't remember ever playing any FF which had so many different options materia use wise or as many hidden little things as FF7 does. Also the fact that it took several hours to master all the materia even with using the W-item trick and killing those pots in the north Crater and also quite challenging. And another fairly hard thing to accomplish would be getting your enemy skill materia complete. Killing sephiroth without KORT even at lvl 99 on all the characters was also quite the accomplishment at the time before learning how to always hit 7777 on him or being able to Mime one characters limit break indefinitely. At some points it would take several tries just to come up with a strategy to beat the final boss in the game or how to beat those weapons still lurking around.
This is the kind of thrill that you only get from FF7 or FF8. FF9 lacked that big time.

All in all, every FF is still pretty good in many aspects and obviously have some flaws in others ( heck running around almost looking like a polygon in FF7 is something i'd rather not do but i can overcome the poor graphics in the game simply because of everything else it offers) but no FF will ever pass FF7 is sales:P so from a certain point of view it can be considered the best FF ever(especially money wise) but neither FF8 or FF9 stay ahead or behind in general FF quality

[Bolivar]

^good breakdown on the PSX generation

[Namelessfengir]

question: why doesn't anyone give this game credit??
answer: because nobody gives a rats ass about it!!!!

[Ashley Schovitz]

Beatrix was badass the whole game was a peice of art and i don't agree with you saying that FFVIII is bad no Final Fantasies are bad in general except for spin offs.

[daggertrepe]

That was a while ago. I love FFVIII now, as you can see by my username.

[Vivisteiner]

question: why doesn't anyone give this game credit??
answer: because they're fucking idiots!!!!
Thats a given.

[IpwnUthisMuch|------|]

If you make a thread about why nobody gives credit to FFIX in an FFIX forum then your obviously going to get comments like "I love this game its the best!" It was a good game I'll give it that but I'm unsure if it was the best FF.

The cutscenes in this FF were much less moving than in the other Final Fantasies. FFX had some great parts, for instance, the ending, in macalania forest, and at Yuna's wedding. FF8 also had some touching moments where Squall rescues Rinoa, or when they are on the Ragnarok, or when Edea throws the snowball at Squall. FFIX had a few decent cutscenes but the game in general lacked some moving parts.

Also the sidequests were worse than other FF's. The card game was annoying, even if your card had higher stats your opponents card can flip it? The FF8 card game is much more straightforward (aside from the regional rules part). And the chocobo mini-games in this version were all luck and grinding. Just hitting buttons and trying to find treasure in the same forest for hours straight and then going and finding chocographs. The breeding and raising and racing system in FFVII was much better.

Also the way characters learn abilities was kind of annoying. You might have to equip weak armor/weapon in order to learn an ability if you missed it and this would make it difficult to win battles and gain AP.

By all means, this is a great game. But VII, VIII, and X are all better imho. At least we can all agree that X-2 is still the worst game :P.

[darksword12]

question: why doesn't anyone give this game credit??
answer: because nobody gives a rats ass about it!!!!

Most everyone on this thread loves FF9. I believe this contradicts your statement that "nobody" cares about the game.

You just got LOGICED!!!

[Vivisteiner]

^I think its called rounding down to the nearest % of the people in the world. Therefore 0% of people in the world give this credit. XD.




The cutscenes in this FF were much less moving than in the other Final Fantasies. FFX had some great parts, for instance, the ending, in macalania forest, and at Yuna's wedding. FF8 also had some touching moments where Squall rescues Rinoa, or when they are on the Ragnarok, or when Edea throws the snowball at Squall. FFIX had a few decent cutscenes but the game in general lacked some moving parts.

Thats ridiculous. What about the ending, the dialogue is all brilliant. What about when Alexandria is getting destroyed and then Alexander come? What about Kuja!?

Look at this scene. It creates an atmosphere IMO that no other FF Ive played creates. And its by no means my favourite.

YouTube - Final Fantasy IX FMV - 1-18 Kuja (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KGSrPtVnICg)


Also the sidequests were worse than other FF's. The card game was annoying, even if your card had higher stats your opponents card can flip it? The FF8 card game is much more straightforward (aside from the regional rules part). And the chocobo mini-games in this version were all luck and grinding. Just hitting buttons and trying to find treasure in the same forest for hours straight and then going and finding chocographs. The breeding and raising and racing system in FFVII was much better.
FFVII and FFIX have the best chocobo side quests IMO. Tetra Master is simple and addictive. You need less than half a brain to play it (although its hard to understand it fully). The flying chocobo is awesome.


Also the way characters learn abilities was kind of annoying. You might have to equip weak armor/weapon in order to learn an ability if you missed it and this would make it difficult to win battles and gain AP.
Uggh, better than hours of drawing magic in FFVIII.


At least we can all agree that X-2 is still the worst game :P.
Thats a given. :p

[licence]

That was a while ago. I love FFVIII now, as you can see by my username.

Glad you came over to the Light side, young padawan.

[Psychotic]

Don't post in threads which have been dead for a year. It just aint cool.