View Full Version : Can FF7 have a hidden story???
childroland
05-16-2006, 03:43 AM
http://www.angelfire.com/yt2/zforce6455/lit/ff7.html this has made me believe that there might be more to FF7 then meets the eye.
Kawaii Ryűkishi
05-16-2006, 04:05 AM
And here I thought no one would ever bring up that stupid thing ever again.
I don't know what it is but there's no way in hell i'm reading all that.
Could you just summarize it for us...Im not reading that whole damn thing, lol.
Kawaii Ryűkishi
05-16-2006, 05:53 AM
It's just a lot of meandering crap that attempts at length to draw some nonexistent meaning from things like the colors of Sephiroth's wing and the fact that you can only have three characters in a party at once.
childroland
05-16-2006, 08:13 PM
Maybe so but I believe that there is somthing to it I mean it seems weird that everything in the games comes to 10, 3, or 9.
Emerald weapon
05-16-2006, 09:58 PM
please summirise couldnt be jibbed reading all that!!!
childroland
05-16-2006, 10:04 PM
I caouldnt explain it like that site does. i always mess things up when i repeat them.
TheSpoonyBard
05-16-2006, 11:14 PM
It's just a lot of meandering crap
That sums it up quite nicely.
If there's something that doesn't conform his/her number theory they simply dismiss them with a very poor excuse as to why.
Captain Maxx Power
05-17-2006, 12:09 AM
The true meaning of FF7 is so vast your minds would explode just to see it! If you're feeling particularly suicidal, read on;
It's about a bloke with a big sword what's angry at a guy with a long sword. They fight, big sword guy wins, end of line.
Griff
05-17-2006, 01:50 AM
The true meaning of FF7 is so vast your minds would explode just to see it! If you're feeling particularly suicidal, read on;
It's about a bloke with a big sword what's angry at a guy with a long sword. They fight, big sword guy wins, end of line.
my life no longer has a meaning, i can't live on with this knowledge. I have to go find my knife.
gyaku_zuki
05-17-2006, 10:29 AM
Well, I sat and read that whole thing...
The guy who wrote this document is either insane, deluded, has too much time, or is an absolute genius and puts the rest of us to shame.
Personally, I don't think its that last one :p
To be honest, the document made a crazy kind of sense until he started with all the numbers and kabbalah stuff, which I think ruined the credibility of the document.
I wanted to try to summarise the thing for those too lazy :p to read it all, but really, its too sporadic and touches too many subjects to really summarise well.
dŁv!l'$ ph0Łn!x
05-17-2006, 01:00 PM
u read it! christ how long did it take u!?
i'll go with the insanity. he's probably sat in a padded room with and all-in-one monitor and PC :D
Neo_Bahamut
05-17-2006, 02:46 PM
I've read it all and i've wasted one precious hour of my life :eep:
Mirage
05-17-2006, 11:36 PM
I read it, didn't take me more than 15 minutes~.
Anyway, some of it made sense, but all the stuff about random numbers kinda made it lose its credibility. It relied too much on highly random and/or things that had to do with technical limits. Some of it does not work with AC either.
Laugh at face of Danger
05-18-2006, 09:35 PM
it looks as bad as reading the cheat to revive Aeris *stares at 99 tissues*
lady yunalesca
05-19-2006, 11:19 PM
i doubt if they researched it that in depth before they made they game!!! it does make me wonder however, that if in 5oo years time kids will study this in school!!! it reminds me of desperately analysing Macbeth for hidden meaning!!!!!
meaning is meaningless if it is hidden!!!!
gyaku_zuki
05-21-2006, 05:42 PM
i doubt if they researched it that in depth before they made they game!!! it does make me wonder however, that if in 5oo years time kids will study this in school!!! it reminds me of desperately analysing Macbeth for hidden meaning!!!!!
meaning is meaningless if it is hidden!!!!
i agree! i hated how there was SO much analysis into things like Shakespeare, I highly doubt he planned ALL the stuff they CLAIM is in there!
DarkLord
05-23-2006, 04:10 PM
What it says seems unlikely, but it does explain things that I didn't understand.
No, FF7 does not have a hidden story. It's a game.
Halenite
05-23-2006, 07:17 PM
*looks at the angelfire link*
nope, not even gonna read it. I don't even like nor trust angelfire.
FallenAngel411
05-24-2006, 07:55 AM
My eyes started bugging out from the tiny font about four lines in. This further proves my extremely involved theory on why FF is best played while tripping. I had a link to that theory somewhere, but I lost it. Oh well.
solidusoul
05-24-2006, 06:22 PM
Summary:
-summary of the game, not bad, could be used for people who didn't read through the game enough and were confused, but I didn't think it was that confusing as long as you actually read
-the real hero was Aerith and the real villian was Jenova. Sephiroth was just a puppet and so was Cloud until he found himself, but in the end Aeris saved the day, Cloud helped. I kinda thought of that on my own though. Also it was Jenova who controlled Shinra into draining the life out of the planet, Shinra was a puppet. Thats iffy, but it could very well be.
-Everything in FFVII is comprised of a apparent, but false truth and a hidden but true truth. Cloud thinking he was a SOLDIER, but who was only a regular and just thought he was Zack. Cid realizing that Shera saved his life instead of just crushing his dreams. Red XIII's father being a hero instead of a coward. That kind of stuff.
-Hence it was thought that man destroyed the planet, but man was only controlled by Jenova. Again iffy, how does this is what the writers meant?
-Numbers, blah, blah , blah. Total BS. With enough effort anyone can relate something to anything.
Overall, I think this guy is a little conceited for thinking that because he came to this conclusion, its right. FFVII was vague so it could allow the reader to come to their own conclusions on some things, as he did, but that doesn't mean thats what was meant as.
boys from the dwarf
05-24-2006, 07:38 PM
i reckon the person who wrote that was just thinking too hard. its not that good. some o.k points but its all a bit dodgy.
Emerald weapon
05-24-2006, 09:47 PM
Summary:
-summary of the game, not bad, could be used for people who didn't read through the game enough and were confused, but I didn't think it was that confusing as long as you actually read
-the real hero was Aerith and the real villian was Jenova. Sephiroth was just a puppet and so was Cloud until he found himself, but in the end Aeris saved the day, Cloud helped. I kinda thought of that on my own though. Also it was Jenova who controlled Shinra into draining the life out of the planet, Shinra was a puppet. Thats iffy, but it could very well be.
-Everything in FFVII is comprised of a apparent, but false truth and a hidden but true truth. Cloud thinking he was a SOLDIER, but who was only a regular and just thought he was Zack. Cid realizing that Shera saved his life instead of just crushing his dreams. Red XIII's father being a hero instead of a coward. That kind of stuff.
-Hence it was thought that man destroyed the planet, but man was only controlled by Jenova. Again iffy, how does this is what the writers meant?
-Numbers, blah, blah , blah. Total BS. With enough effort anyone can relate something to anything.
Overall, I think this guy is a little conceited for thinking that because he came to this conclusion, its right. FFVII was vague so it could allow the reader to come to their own conclusions on some things, as he did, but that doesn't mean thats what was meant as.
thanks for summarising!!!yeah the guys a nutjob:) :D
Cloud_Reno_
05-25-2006, 09:22 PM
I will not take this as canon( i think cloud and aeris were the heros, but they all did their part), this guy can get lost...:mad2:
Uhanimar
05-25-2006, 09:28 PM
Well, this is quite interesting. However, it's too easy to find things like this in anything.
One thing that i did find somewhere that was cool was this:
Aire Tam Storm
maT eriA Storm
Cool eh? A hidden word to give you a clue as to how to avoid being killed by it.(Probably old isn't it?)
~Megalixir~
05-26-2006, 12:48 AM
Yes, it is old
I think ive read this somewhere, now ive wasted about 45 minutes of my life. Dont read it, it is the same old crap we dealt with six years ago. It has some relevance, but the rest is BS.
Cyberdemon
06-07-2006, 01:44 AM
Hm, this has really opened my eyes to a lot of the deeper things in FF7... Aeris and Jenova the real hero and villain, while cloud and sephiroth are puppets until a point? And Jenova manipulating Shinra for power? The beginning is very good, but later on it looks like he got desperate for something to write, as this inspiring story turned into a massive load of BS that destroyed its credibility. To me, the 3,9,10 thing is absolutely ridiculous. Not like he mentions the hundreds of multiples of 2 in the game. But the beginning and end of it were very well written and thought provoking. Good job on finding it.:tongue:
Cloud Strife Dude
06-07-2006, 11:46 AM
no, theres no story behind ff7.
y'see...i've studied that game in the 12 times ive beaten it...
DarkLord
06-15-2006, 12:36 PM
I agree, it's kinda like the Da Vinci code, someone who didn't like Jesus took coincidental stuff and put it together, it's not true, although it sounds clever.
I think what he's done is clever, and could be seen as true, but without any real, legitimate, official proof, I'm not gonna go believing it.
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