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Elpizo
08-05-2006, 02:43 PM
I bought the GBA version two weeks ago (Europe version) and finished it like 10 days later. Not counting Lunar Ruins of course, I've done some trials, but I didn't have enough HP for Lunar Odin and no Lunar Curtains for Lunar Bahamut.

But eh, is it me or is Zeromus kinda too much Big Bangish in the European version? I mean, I was lv 55 with everybody (or higher) and I still couldn't beat him! I trained to lv 60 and still no luck! Why, you ask? Because... He... BIG BANGS EVERY TURN! I mean, I played a ROM of the American version of IV Advance and Zeromus was not that impossible, his Big Bang was strong but he didn't do it so much. He didn't act that much. But in the European version??? Every turn! Big Bang, Big Bang, Big Bang after Big Bang. So fast Rosa can't even Cure. He doesn't even shake when he's going to use Big Bang. He just Big Bangs you, than uses Black Hole or Flare or something, but he does Big Bang every turn and slaughters you. Is this only in my game? Is this a glitch? Or is this completely normal? And my battle speed is on its slowest speed, but still it took my quite some turn before I could finally beat him.

Sorry guys, but this Big Bang experience ruined a part of the coolness of Zeromus for me. He's like Dark Cloud now, just one attack which he uses over and over... :(

I also did not like the fact that he sinks out of the screen rather than in the universe, like in the SNES version, or that he doesn't crumble, like Chaos or Emperor in DoS... They nerfed Zeromus for me... Too bad, he was one of my fav End Bosses untill now...

Even his music isn't as cool... Way too... techno? The SNES version had a more... Dark atmosphere, but this one? Maybe I'm just being negative... But still... Where's the Final Boss I loved so much in the SNES version? And not because he was easy, because I hated that... It's just... Something is missing... I don't have this "This is the Final Boss, let's beat him up and finish the game!" feeling, like I had when facing Chaos or Emperor.

I don't know... It's probably me... Maybe you'll want my head for this but... I think Dawn of Souls stands above IV Advance... The ATB still was a bit glitched in the European version, like Curaja or damage numbers appearing too slow on the screen while selecting your next move...

But I'm happy I have it, even if Zeromus is nerfed, I still have those awesome Lunar Ruins and Zeromus EG.
Yet, I want to ask, does anybody feel like I feel? Or is it just me? Is it normal for Zeromus to Big Bang the crap out of me?
I would like to know...
Most of these things are details of course, but quite important details, if you ask me...

Znake
08-05-2006, 03:35 PM
Zeromus used Big Bang on me quite a bit, but it never did any major damage, about 1800 - 2200 HP. It never killed any of the party instantly, and I was always able to use Rosa's Curaja. I never had a problem beating him either, I did It on the first attempt at around lv 55 - 63. Whenever I could I had Rydia Summon Bahamut, which alway's resulted in Zeromus using Flare Instead of Big Bang, It would do alot of damage to whoever It hit, but spare the rest of them. Then I'd just have Cecil, Kain, and Cid attack. I had more trouble defeating the earlier Bosses.

Paul
08-06-2006, 02:10 PM
i really liked FFIV advance. i didn't notice any glitches or anything that you are talking about. zeromus DOES use big bang a /xxx.gif/xxx.gif/xxx.gif/xxx.gifload... i beat him first time i met him, but then my GBA ran out of battery before i could save it. since then i have levelled up about 5 levels and tried to beat him about 4 times, to no avail...

but other than this i don't have any problems!

cecil+rosa
09-03-2006, 03:39 PM
10 days i know you must be lieing

lunar bahamut?
i thought bahamut was just normal bahamut?

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Crossblades
09-03-2006, 05:08 PM
lunar bahamut?
i thought bahamut was just normal bahamut?

Lunar Bahamut is one of the bosses you fight in the Lunar Ruins. He's appears in Kain's trial

undnce
09-04-2006, 03:12 PM
ur a noob dude, I beat it in 7 days includong the Lunar Ruins with all my characters 70+....this game was not dissapointing, u just suck at it

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boys from the dwarf
09-04-2006, 04:21 PM
id imagine the GBA version would be easier than the other versions. did you guys find it easier than the PS1 and snes version? ive always liked snes style music and making the music modern isnt always a great thing. i'll judge for myself when i hear it.

Goldenboko
09-04-2006, 04:31 PM
ur a noob dude, I beat it in 7 days includong the Lunar Ruins with all my characters 70+....this game was not dissapointing, u just suck at it

That was the most unnecassary remark on this entire thread be ashamed of yourself

I beat him in the 50s (Like 50-52) with the party your suppose to face him with in the old one (Kain, Rosa, Egde, Rydia, Cecil)


Of course my strategy was awesome (if I do say so myself)

Big Bang weakened my party I let Rydia stay dead then I quickly healed everyone but Kain, Big Bang killed him. From there Curaja would heal 2,000+ because only 3 party members where left so Rosa used Curaja every turn fully healing my party Edge and Cecil (My two strongest at the time) would attack, or heal Rosa's MP when necessary worked like a charm.

Also I believe the hardest version is the PS1 version (GBA was too easy)
I can't wait for my PS1 Version to arrive :D

boys from the dwarf
09-04-2006, 06:31 PM
ive played the PS1 version and the disk still works. in fact im planning to start a new game soon because ive never got around to beating the final dungeon and FF4 is the only FF i own and havent completed. i enjoy FF4 because of its difficulty. i already reported that post to the moderators. ive heard the final boss is a good one and have heard te black mages version of the tune so im looking forwards to the battle.

Sephex
09-04-2006, 07:14 PM
ur a noob dude, I beat it in 7 days includong the Lunar Ruins with all my characters 70+....this game was not dissapointing, u just suck at it

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leik OMG U R so rite he shluodt paly FFIV cuz he is teh sux neway!!!11

Reine
09-04-2006, 07:15 PM
I finished the main game in three days, but that was playing nearly non-stop...

Zeromus I rarely ever have trouble with, but a random screw up and delays left me with a double Big Bang or something...

Zeromus EG on the other hand... (lol most unoriginal secret boss name ever)

Elpizo
09-04-2006, 08:24 PM
ur a noob dude, I beat it in 7 days includong the Lunar Ruins with all my characters 70+....this game was not dissapointing, u just suck at it

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Hey, little n00b, I never said the game was disappointing, I said Zeromus was, kinda. Mainly because of his Big Bang-ish behavior and secondly his music, which was nerfed and worse than the original SNES music, which I loved.

And I beat the game in 12 days, playing only an hour or two each day.
Ah well, FF V Advance at least looks better than IV advance... IV felt just too rushed. Well, I don't regret buying it, (I till VI on my DS Lite, the ultimate goal of every portable gamer!)

Zeromus_X
09-04-2006, 08:27 PM
Don't worry, I beat the game in two days. I did the Lunar trials in another.

The glitches were noticeable (get two turns in a row), and the Grimoires on Zeromus EG. But overall, the game was really easy. The music is of course downgraded, the GBA doesn't really have great sound quality (makes me fear for FFVI Advance).

Paul
09-05-2006, 02:13 AM
grimoires on zeromus EG? what are you on about? (srry for off topic-ness)

Evastio
09-05-2006, 02:15 AM
grimoires on zeromus EG? what are you on about? (srry for off topic-ness)
They're additional bonus features in FFIV Advance.

Zeromus_X
09-05-2006, 02:18 AM
My friend had to clue me in on this, as I had never used the Grimoires on Zeromus EG before. Using them will result in a strange bug (for some of them) that just performs a seemingly random spell animation (that is not the animation for the Grimoire), and may turn ZEG into a toad, then have him take 9,999 damage after awhile and turn back to normal, or just have no effect. It's too bizarre to have been intentional.

Thankfully (and I hope this is true), most of the bugs have been fixed for the European versions.

feioncastor
09-05-2006, 02:47 AM
Is FF4Advance the Easy Type or Hard Type?

Even in FF4 Easy Type, which we call FF2 over here, even in that game, Zeromus was a ridiculous challenge. You could get all the way to him and still be about 15 levels short of being ready for him. I mean, with other FF games, by the time you made it to the final boss, you could probably take him, just because you take all the guys leading up to him. Yes, he does use Big Bang almost every turn, even on the SNES cartridge that I have. Every now and then he'll use.... Black Hole, I think... Something like that, but it's almost always Big Bang. I just have Rosa do Cure 4** every turn, and I hold off on her turn until he does it.

I got FF Chronicles and played FF4 Hard Type and it was much harder and more complicated. No more "Heal" potions :(. But I had more fun because it was challenging. And I didn't find Zeromus to be anymore difficult in either version. In fact, the only boss that seemed to have gotten harder between the two types was Dark Elf, in his snakey form, with his new fangled super snakey breath.

**I refuse to ever call it "Curaja" or "Blizzaga" or "Thundara" because that's way too lame for my taste. I mean, it's not like you're attacking the guy with Thunder! You're attacking him with Lightning! It should be Lit 2, or at least Lightningara or something.


i didn't notice any glitches

Except that thing that happened in almost every fight where after a person execute their command, the command box immediately popped up with the ATB gauge even filling up. I mean, it made the fights easier, but still bothered me. I felt like I was cheating or something.

abrojtm
09-05-2006, 02:50 AM
The Grimoire thing is intentional.

Also, I was not disappointed by Zeromus in the revamp of FFIV.

Zeromus_X
09-05-2006, 02:55 AM
How is it intentional? Making the game's superboss who isn't even very 'super' a joke is intentional?

feioncastor, the Advance version is based off of the Hardtype version, though it did seem alot easier than any version to me. I guess I've just played it alot of times.

Reine
09-05-2006, 03:17 AM
Most superbosses these days have uber cheap methods to beat them, so the dumb gamers can cheaply beat them and feel special for doing so...

Its so disheartening seeing 14 year old noobs going "I beat Penancce with Zanmato! :D:D YOU SUCK NOOB"

abrojtm
09-05-2006, 04:16 AM
Zeromus EG isn't the superboss, Brachioradialus is.
The Grimories serve pretty much no other purpose other than this and to kill Zeromus before he transforms into a bettle.

Zeromus_X
09-05-2006, 04:51 AM
They're both superbosses, though Brachioraidos is more of a 'super-enemy'. Just because Brachy is more tedious than ZEG doesn't disqualify ZEG from superboss status, you might as well consider the Lunar Summons normal bosses in that case.

The Grimoires do a summon animation, and deal 9,999 damage. They don't make random spell animations and mess with ZEG's appearance. This is obviously a bug of some sort. Nor were they 'meant' to be anything other than a reward for beating the Lunar Summons that you can use to fry unsuspecting baddies.

As for killing blue spaghetti Zeromus, that's most likely an oversight by the developers. Though it is nice to have the one 'Crystal' in your inventory...

abrojtm
09-05-2006, 06:30 AM
When you enter the Lunar Ruins, Zeromus EG says something about you having to do your characters' trials, but you actually don't have to do them. It's pretty impossible to mistakenly program the effects that the Grimoires have on EG.

Defeating blue-spaghetti was probably an oversight though, yea.

Znake
09-05-2006, 09:36 AM
I completed the game first time around in 7 days, about 25 gameplay hours. The only bosses I had any trouble with, were Caganazzo and Barbariccia.

I don't know how important Grimoires are, or how pointless this tip is, but you can pick up a load of Grimoires after you complete the main game. Just go around all the Town and Caves (Summons, Sylph), and check the Bookshelves.

Paul
09-05-2006, 12:28 PM
okay cool. i didn't know about that zeromus EG grimoire thing. i beat him once, but i haven't really figured out grimoires yet.



i didn't notice any glitches

Except that thing that happened in almost every fight where after a person execute their command, the command box immediately popped up with the ATB gauge even filling up. I mean, it made the fights easier, but still bothered me. I felt like I was cheating or something.
yeah i've got the european version, and there are no noticeable glitches i can think of. i've heard people talking a lot about characters getting two turns and things like that. never happened in my one.

robfinalfantasy
01-03-2007, 01:28 AM
More than anything I'm really disappointed with the slowness of the battles. I was looking so forward to this game. The original character commands, full spell list, trials, ability to change characters at the end, and most of all UNABBREVIATED weapon/armor/item/spell names. I didn't mind most of the glitches though, but the slowness is way worse.

lufia
01-03-2007, 08:48 PM
i killed this guy at level 41. hated leveling up and never did, its more challenging this way. finished the game in 17 hrs with no training

The big bang isn't tough at all if you steal the dark matter before he transforms - the part where you use the cystal on him but first steal the dark matter since this powers up his big bang . his big bang wasn't so tough after taking that away :choc2: .

i can imagine vsing Zeromus without doing that, full hard