The self-proclaimed "King of Pop".

[Breine]

Obviously this thread is about none other than Michael Jackson. I've heard recently that he's working on making a comeback - something about him looking for producers and such. What do you think his chances are of getting a comeback? Will he ever be "The King of Pop" again, or are those days just over?

Discuss.

[*ETERNAL FANTASY*]

whoever, wherever he is i will always love and respect the stuff he produced during the thriller days and even with jackson 5 his music was pretty awesome! I dont really see where he'll go (musically) but i dunno i think those days have already passed but you never know!

[Lilliputian Hitcher]

Michael Jackson is a singer?

[Captain Maxx Power]

He's got a lot of effort to go to. The major majority of kids today consider him to be that wierd white guy who was arrested for child molestation, as oppose to his self-designated "King of Pop" title. I imagine his main reason for doing this is his apparent Bankruptcy.

[Odaisé Gaelach]

He's got a lot of effort to go to. The major majority of kids today consider him to be that wierd white guy who was arrested for child molestation, as oppose to his self-designated "King of Pop" title. I imagine his main reason for doing this is his apparent Bankruptcy.

His music is brilliant though, and I hope that the comeback goes well for him. :)

[Arrianna]

I hope his life is straightened out before he tries or it will be a short attempt.

[Rocket Edge]

His music is brilliant though, and I hope that the comeback goes well for him. :)
Same.

[Elite Lord Sigma]

If he does, hopefully it won't be all ruined by the molestation charges. I hear that he's living in Bahrain since he was found innocent.

[Moon Rabbits]

I like his music alot, but I really think he was guilty so I have conflicting feelings about a comeback.

[Miriel]

Yeah... don't you people remember? He already tried to make a comeback a few years ago with a new CD. It flopped

He will never again be "the king of pop" for as long as he's alive. He's done.

[MJN SEIFER]

He's got a lot of effort to go to. The major majority of kids today consider him to be that wierd white guy who was arrested for child molestation, as oppose to his self-designated "King of Pop" title. I imagine his main reason for doing this is his apparent Bankruptcy.

Actually they don't. I was passing my old primary school a few days ago and all the kids we discussing him positivly.

The Kids are on his sides and we should be as he didn't do what they say he did.

I think I Should know a child molester if I see one thank you!!!

[Jimmy Dark Aeons Slayer]

His a mutant with flashy clothes and girly voice...

I don´t know about the "King of Pop" but i always had my suspecions since he i listened to that "Who´s bad?" song...:choc2:


The guy belongs in jail.

[Shiny]

If Madonna was able to make a comeback, he'll be able to.

[Mirage]

His music can be good at times, but I doubt he'll be able to make a good comeback.

[Breine]

Yeah... don't you people remember? He already tried to make a comeback a few years ago with a new CD. It flopped


Actually, the "Invincible" album you're talking about debuted at #1 on the Billboard Top 200 chart, sold 5.4 million copies in the US and 8 million copies worldwide - and only one worldwide single was released from the album. In comparison Justin Timberlake's album "Justified", which is widely considered as a big succes, never got the #1 spot on the Billboard Top 200 chart, sold 3.5 million copies in the US and 7 million worldwide - and 4 worldwide singles were released from that album... Not to be rude, but I don't know who told you that the "Invincible" album flopped - it just didn't sell as much as he had anticipated.

[Captain Maxx Power]

Thriller: Around 51 million copies
Bad: 28 million copies
Dangerous: 32 million copies
Invincible : 8 million copies

The problem isn't the album doing badly per say, it's the fact that it's sold a fraction of the copies expected of a Jackson release. In that sense, it is very much a flop.

[daggertrepe]

Haha. I thought this was about Janice, considering the world's "Self Proclaimed..."

[NorthernChaosGod]

I don't know if he'd have the time to put out a record inbetween all of his romps touching little boys.

[Miriel]

Yeah... don't you people remember? He already tried to make a comeback a few years ago with a new CD. It flopped


Actually, the "Invincible" album you're talking about debuted at #1 on the Billboard Top 200 chart, sold 5.4 million copies in the US and 8 million copies worldwide - and only one worldwide single was released from the album. In comparison Justin Timberlake's album "Justified", which is widely considered as a big succes, never got the #1 spot on the Billboard Top 200 chart, sold 3.5 million copies in the US and 7 million worldwide - and 4 worldwide singles were released from that album... Not to be rude, but I don't know who told you that the "Invincible" album flopped - it just didn't sell as much as he had anticipated.
I'd consider it a flop when it most critics basically panned Invincible for being a sucky CD.

Paris Hilton sold a couple million copies of her new CD but that doesn't change the fact that most people consider her album to be trash.

[Raebus]

LOL

The "Michael jackson = MONSTER TO KIDS, BURN IT" thing is still being kicked?

I hope he eventually makes a come back, his music was so darn catchy.

[Dreddz]

However much I'd like him to make a comeback, its very unlikely. With all the reception hes got recently, he might as well stay locked indoors as he'll get nothing but harassment if he comes out. Hes got all the money he'll ever need anyway, I say he should lay back and chill for the remainder of his life...

[Roto13]

If Madonna was able to make a comeback, he'll be able to.

You actually have to go away before you can come back.

[KentaRawr!]

I forgot Michael Jackson was a man. o_o

Anyway, it would be cool if he made a come-back, just as long as he doesn't get involved with certain crimes I don't think I need to mention specifically. I listened to a few songs of his, and it actually sounds very good. To me, anyway.

[Cz]

While he might attempt to make a comeback at some point in the future, his reputation has been damaged by the accusations of child molestation, not to mention his eccentric behaviour in recent years. After all that, his popularity could never be restored to the kind of level it was at the peak of his career. It's a shame, since he's made some great music in the past, but people simply don't respect him any more, and when the public's image of you is so negative it's almost impossible to recover.

[Shiny]

I'd consider it a flop when it most critics basically panned Invincible for being a sucky CD.

Since when are critics always right? I didn't find Invincible bad, but it wasn't as good as his other CD's. However, he's set the bar pretty high. He can't always live up to that bar. But, he has a huge worldwide fanbase and I doubt that any music he'll release will flop money wise.



You actually have to go away before you can come back.
You have a point there. :shifty: I guess I wasn't paying attention to her that much.

[Mr. Graves]

Yeah... don't you people remember? He already tried to make a comeback a few years ago with a new CD. It flopped

He will never again be "the king of pop" for as long as he's alive. He's done.

Although I wouldn't go by other's opinions (as that's what reviews are), I agree that he'll never be nearly as popular as he was, at least in a positive way. He's dug himself a pretty steep hole.

[Miriel]

I'd consider it a flop when it most critics basically panned Invincible for being a sucky CD.

Since when are critics always right? I didn't find Invincible bad, but it wasn't as good as his other CD's. However, he's set the bar pretty high. He can't always live up to that bar. But, he has a huge worldwide fanbase and I doubt that any music he'll release will flop money wise.


And since when are critics always wrong? I listened to a few songs on the CD and thought it sucked. Bad.

[MJN SEIFER]

Besides it's not really "Self Proclaimed" as other people do use the term, Infact I've never heard HIM say he was the "King Of Pop".

[udsuna]

Uh, Seifer, that's the thing about child predators. They blend in. The creepy guys are very rarely the real dangers. Ok, to be fair, they might very well be serial killers or "normal" rapists. But child molesters learn how to blend in real quick. Don't for a second believe you can spot them for what they are. Plus child molesters usually target people close to them. The kids of friends and relatives. Or get into a pediatric field like preschool teacher or pediatrician. Disturbing, ain't it. Which makes Jackson too creepy to be a child molester. Insane, on the other hand, is perfectly likely.


As for Jackson's career, he's been surprisingly low-key about his music. Compared to other 80s pop stars (*cough* madonna *cough*), his ego is pretty low. As for a comeback, I don't think it'll happen. Could be entirely wrong. But his reputation is pretty much devestated for all time.

[DarkLadyNyara]

Meh. I don't think he'll ever reclaim the level of success he once had. His early music was brilliant, but the later stuff just, in my opinion, sucks.

[MJN SEIFER]

I’ve danced with every girl
And I'm here to save the world
You can't stop me 'cause I'm
Michael Jackson
There is nothing I can't do
Do when danger calls
Just know that I am on my way (know that I am on my way)

It doesn't matter where or when there's trouble
If you just call my name
Michael Jackson

Call me, beep me if you wanna reach me
When you wanna page me it's okay
I just can't wait until I hear my cell phone ri-i-ing
Doesn't matter if it's day or night
Everything is gonna be alright
Whenever you need me baby
Call me, beep me if you wanna reach me

Doesn't matter where
Doesn't matter when (doesn't matter when)
I will be there for you 'til the very end ('til the very end)
Danger or trouble
I'm there on the double
You know that you always can call
Michael Jackson

Yeaah-hey yeaah-hey

Call me, beep me if you wanna reach me
When you wanna page me it's okay
I just can't wait until I hear my cell phone ri-i-ing
Doesn't matter if it's day or night
Everything is gonna be alright
Whenever you need me, whenever you need me baby

Call me, beep me if you wanna reach me
When you wanna page me it's okay
Call me, beep me if you wanna reach me

[chrisfffan]

he was the prince of pop when he was black but now hes sick why would anyone want to do that to them selves? i love his music the though! the old stuff Billie Jean and Thriller quality!

[Fuego]

I pitty mikey jackson now, he just lost everything and all because he either

1.) likeee the little boys or
2.) the little boys mommy and daddy likeee mikey's $$$$......

either way its pretty tragic. i can't see him ever regening his title back. and i love thriller and the music he put out in that time period ...

[fantasyjunkie]

He's finished. Done with.

[Araciel]

i totally could not care less...he made a lot of good music, most of it before he turned 21 in my opinion...but that was an age ago

[Rusty]

Waaay past his used by date. He made some awesome music and he had some of the best dance moves, but the things he has done outside music made him famous for the wrong things.

[Mirage]

That's only if you believe he is guilty. I don't.

[NorthernChaosGod]

That's only if you believe he is guilty. I don't.

I really hope that was a joke or sarcasm.

[Beyond]

The jury in Jackson's child molestation case found him not guilty. That's however many jury in the case (somewhere between 8 and 12, I believe) found him unanimously innocent. These people were shown more evidence than anyone else in the world.

If there's any possible way that he did it, the proof would have been in that trial. You can ignore that fact if you want to, but it's your loss.

[chrisfffan]

or the jury were paid off! think about it their is something very weird about him

[Beyond]

So what if the guy's eccentric? That doesn't automatically make him guilty.

[Miriel]

Not guilty does not equal innocent. Not guilty just means there wasn't enough evidence to get a guilty conviction. ^_^

[Raistlin]

Not guilty does not equal innocent. Not guilty just means there wasn't enough evidence to get a guilty conviction. ^_^

It equates to innocent, though, by a lot of other standards (presumption of innocence and double jeopardy are two that come to mind). They only say "not guilty" instead of "innocent" because the standard of proof is on the prosecution. However, after a not guilty verdict, under the law the defendant is innocent (unless one of the few loopholes to double jeopardy - such as new evidence - comes up).

You all can go back to your discussion now. :D

[Beyond]

Not guilty does not equal innocent. Not guilty just means there wasn't enough evidence to get a guilty conviction. ^_^

Not enough evidence to get a guilty conviction does not equal guilty.

I can play this game too.

[Miriel]

It equates to innocent, though, by a lot of other standards (presumption of innocence and double jeopardy are two that come to mind). They only say "not guilty" instead of "innocent" because the standard of proof is on the prosecution. However, after a not guilty verdict, under the law the defendant is innocent (unless one of the few loopholes to double jeopardy - such as new evidence - comes up).

You all can go back to your discussion now. :D

It doesn't always equate to innocent in my book! Case clooooosed. :p

[NorthernChaosGod]

Not guilty does not equal innocent. Not guilty just means there wasn't enough evidence to get a guilty conviction. ^_^

Exactly.

The guy did it, OJ did it too.

[Raistlin]

I love how people make legal decisions based on watching a bit of the trial on TV or hearing about it on the news that they consider better than decisions made by a jury who had to sit through the entire trial, hear all of the evidence, and then deliberate for days.

[Dreddz]

Jackson was hassled because Mums knew Jackson paid 4 million to a family who took him to court accusing him of child molestation. Being the bitches that they were, they claimed that Jackson molested there child, thinking Jackson would willingly give more money away.

I do think Jackson is innocent for the charges that were put against him, but I do think he was troubled in some way. His obvious addiction to plastic surgery, and the fact he has a <img src="/xxx.gif"><img src="/xxx.gif"><img src="/xxx.gif"><img src="/xxx.gif"> load of porn in his house. Oh, and dangling his baby out of a window :greenie:

I still love him though, its sad to see him labeled as the pedophile instead of the king of pop. Back in the days of Thriller (http://youtube.com/watch?v=-8vA30ELuXY), he was kicking so much ass it was untrue.

[chrisfffan]

im glad in a way he didnt get banged up because i dont think i would play his music any more at the discos i do