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Comet
09-02-2006, 06:45 PM
Write what Criminals you hate the most.

My opinion:

Ted Bundy. Confessed to killing 30 women but the actual number of killings is unknown. Police are certain that he has killed more women. Died in 1989.

Jon Venables and Robert Thomson: Two 11 year old boys brutally killed a 3 year old boy and dumped him on train tracks to look like an accident.

And obviously Osama Bin Laden

oddler
09-02-2006, 06:51 PM
Seeing as your signature implies a criminal offense, I'll say you. :)

Psydekick
09-02-2006, 07:07 PM
Old Manus or Levian

Dignified Pauper
09-02-2006, 07:08 PM
http://www.vegalleries.com/misccels/38carmen02.jpg

aquatius
09-02-2006, 07:27 PM
CURSE YOU CARMEN SANDIEGO!

Resha
09-02-2006, 07:28 PM
http://www.vegalleries.com/misccels/38carmen02.jpg

OH MY GOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! YEEEEGHA!

Carmen Sandiego is like my HEROINE. She has been ever since I was little. She is seriously the coolest woman EVER. Where in the world is Carmen Sandiego!?!? >:O

aquatius
09-02-2006, 07:29 PM
Ahh, those games were so fun...

Resha
09-02-2006, 07:30 PM
Ahh, those games were so fun...

YES they were. I LOVED the computer games and I used to play 'em like a maniac. The TV shows owned too, but "Where In Time is Carmen Sandiego" was the best game ever made.

To be on topic etc, uhm, worst criminal...Hitler.

Odaisé Gaelach
09-02-2006, 07:32 PM
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/8/81/Shipman.jpg (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dr_Harold_Shipman)

Sylvie
09-02-2006, 08:32 PM
Jon Venables and Robert Thomson: Two 11 year old boys brutally killed a 3 year old boy and dumped him on train tracks to look like an accident.

Don't forget that they shoved a battery up his anus. :barf:

I would probably say either them or... The Wiggles.

LUKEJAKE17
09-02-2006, 08:47 PM
my choice for worst criminal is pshychotic for shutting down anaisas thread such as anaisas welcome thread and behold the void for shutting down ken is a ponce

Dignified Pauper
09-02-2006, 09:39 PM
http://www.openheaven.org/data/openheaven/images/2004_Judas_2_small.jpg

he freakin' betrayed, lol, Jesus.

http://www.wga.hu/art/b/bernini/gianlore/sculptur/1630/longinus.jpg

he freakin' killed, lol, Jesus.

Tavrobel
09-02-2006, 09:59 PM
Cid for making EoFF.

Jojee
09-02-2006, 10:18 PM
Ahh, those games were so fun...

YES they were. I LOVED the computer games and I used to play 'em like a maniac. The TV shows owned too, but "Where In Time is Carmen Sandiego" was the best game ever made. Not to mention the monthly comic in National Geographic Kids before they replaced it with those weird warping kids! <3

Worst Criminal: ... Oh geez,I dunno, there's so many. Those sick people that torture people while eating them slowly or kill them and freeze their heads in their fridge really creep me out. :(

Nominus Experse
09-02-2006, 10:26 PM
Before any of you read this, I want to give fair and stern warnings:
Albert Fish was sick, very very sick. He ate those that he killed, and he described it in sickening detail. Young children were he victims. He cut them up, basically. I have put all of the trulygruesome details in text so as not to have anyone feel sick after reading something you didn't want to.

Just know that it's gross.

Also, if a Mod or Admin. deems that Albert Fish is far too graphic, feel free to simply pull out all the explanations and such, but be sure to place in the following sources so that poeple can, if they so wish, learn more about this horrific murderer.

Sources:
http://www.crimelibrary.com/serial_killers/notorious/fish/index.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albert_Fish
http://www.prairieghosts.com/fish.html
http://www.carpenoctem.tv/killers/fish.html


Albert Fish

He was a stooped, frail-looking old man about 130 pounds and 5 feet 5 inches tall. He was nicknamed The Grey Man or the Brooklyn Vampire.

His manner was that of one with a polite, genteel, kind and seemingly constant benevolence.

And this is what the man did:

On May 28, 1928, Fish, then 58 years old, visited the Budd family in Manhattan, New York City. He was responding to a work wanted ad placed by 18-year-old Edward Budd. At the Budd's apartment, Fish found Edward perfect, but then met his younger sister, ten-year-old Grace. Fish promised to hire Edward and send for him in a few days, and in the meantime he convinced Mr. and Mrs. Budd to let Grace accompany him to a party that evening at his home. Fish left with Grace Budd that day, but never came back.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/0/02/Grace_budd.gif

In November of 1934, an anonymous letter was sent to the girl's parents which led the police to Albert Fish. Here is what is pertinent about the letter:

...On Sunday June the 3, 1928 I called on you at 406 W 15 St. Brought you pot cheese—strawberries. We had lunch. Grace sat in my lap and kissed me. I made up my mind to eat her. On the pretense of taking her to a party. You said yes she could go. I took her to an empty house in Westchester I had already picked out. When we got there, I told her to remain outside. She picked wildflowers. I went upstairs and stripped all my clothes off. I knew if I did not I would get her blood on them. When all was ready I went to the window and called her. Then I hid in a closet until she was in the room. When she saw me all naked she began to cry and tried to run down the stairs. I grabbed her and she said she would tell her mamma. First I stripped her naked. How she did kick—bite and scratch. I choked her to death, then cut her in small pieces so I could take my meat to my rooms. Cook and eat it. How sweet and tender her little ass was roasted in the oven. It took me 9 days to eat her entire body. I did not smurf her tho I could of had I wished. She died a virgin.


According to his confession to Detectives, this is what Fish did with Gracie's body after strangling her to death:

He propped up her head on an old paint can and decapitated her, catching most of the blood in the paint can. Afterwards he threw the bucket of blood out into the yard. He undressed the headless child, then he went back to her body and cut it in two with the butcher knife and cleaver.

Parts of her body he took with him wrapped in newspaper. The rest he left there until he returned several days later when he threw the portions of her body over a stone wall in the back of the house. He disposed of his tools in the same fashion.

However, Gracie was not the only child to have been murdered and mauled by The Grey Man.

Fish confessed the unspeakable things he did to Billy Gaffney, another of the children to have been mutilated and killed by Fish.

As said by Fish in his interrogation:

"I brought him to the Riker Ave. dumps. There is a house that stands alone, not far from where I took himI took the boy there. Stripped him naked and tied his hands and feet and gagged him with a piece of dirty rag I picked out of the dump. Then I burned his clothes. Threw his shoes in the dump. Then I walked back and took the trolley to 59 St. at 2 A.M. and walked from there home.

"Next day about 2 P.M., I took tools, a good heavy cat-of-nine tails. Home made. Short handle. Cut one of my belts in half, slit these halves in six strips about 8 inches long. I whipped his bare behind till the blood ran from his legs. I cut off his ears -- nose --slit his mouth from ear to ear. Gouged out his eyes. He was dead then. I stuck the knife in his belly and held my mouth to his body and drank his blood.

"I picked up four old potato sacks and gathered a pile of stones. Then I cut him up. I had a grip with me. I put his nose, ears and a few slices of his belly in the grip. Then I cut him through the middle of his body. Just below the belly button. Then through his legs about 2 inches below his behind. I put this in my grip with a lot of paper. I cut off the head -- feet -- arms-- hands and the legs below the knee. This I put in sacks weighed with stones, tied the ends and threw them into the pools of slimy water you will see all along the road going to North Beach.

"I came home with my meat. I had the front of his body I liked best. His monkey and pee wees and a nice little fat behind to roast in the oven and eat. I made a stew out of his ears -- nose -- pieces of his face and belly. I put onions, carrots, turnips, celery, salt and pepper. It was good.

"Then I split the cheeks of his behind open, cut off his monkey and pee wees and washed them first. I put strips of bacon on each cheek of his behind and put them in the oven. Then I picked 4 onions and when the meat had roasted about 1/4 hour, I poured about a pint of water over it for gravy and put in the onions. At frequent intervals I basted his behind with a wooden spoon. So the meat would be nice and juicy.

"In about 2 hours, it was nice and brown, cooked through. I never ate any roast turkey that tasted half as good as his sweet fat little behind did. I ate every bit of the meat in about four days. His little monkey was a sweet as a nut, but his pee-wees I could not chew. Threw them in the toilet."

Fish was also tied to the 1932 murder of a fifteen-year-old girl named Mary O'Connor in Far Rockaway. The girl's mauled body was found in some woods close to a house that Fish had been painting.

Fish confided in Dr. Wertham a long history of preying on children -- "at least a hundred." Fish would bribe them with money or candy. He usually chose African-American children because he believed that the police did not pay much attention when they were hurt or missing.

He never went back to the same neighborhood. He said that he had lived in at least 23 states and in each one he had killed at least one child. Sometimes, he lost his job as a painter because he was suspiciously connected to these dead or mutilated children.


http://www.crimelibrary.com/graphics/photos/serial_killers/notorious/fish/5a.jpg
Initially, Dr. Wertham(a psychiatrist called to determine if Fish was insane or not) had some concerns about whether Fish was lying to him, especially when he told the psychiatrist that he had been sticking needles into his body for years in the area between the rectum and the scrotum: "He told of doing it to other people too, especially children. At first, he said, he had only stuck these needles in and pulled them out again. Then he had stuck others in so far that he was unable to get them out, and they stayed there." The doctor had him X-rayed and sure enough, there were at least twenty-nine needles in his pelvic region.


About the age of fifty-five, Fish started to experience hallucinations and delusions. "He had visions of Christ and His angels....he began to be engrossed in religious speculations about purging himself of iniquities and sins, atonement by physical suffering and self-torture, human sacrifices....He would go on endlessly with quotations from the Bible all mixed up with his own sentences, such as 'Happy is he that taketh Thy little ones and dasheth their heads against the stones."

Fish believed that God had ordered him to torment and castrate little boys. He had actually done so a number of times.

Wertham was amazed as Fish described the horrible cannibalism of Billy Gaffney's body. "His state of mind while he described these things in minute detail was a peculiar mixture. He spoke in a matter-of-fact way, like a housewife describing her favorite methods of cooking....But at times his voice and facial expression indicated a kind of satisfaction and ecstatic thrill. I said to myself: However you define the medical and legal borders of sanity, this certainly is beyond that border."


Ultimately, Albert Fish was tried and found guilty of the murders, and was also announced to be "perfectly sane". As such, he recieved the death penalty.

When it was announced that he was to recieve the death penalty via electric chair, Albert Fish turned to the jury and thanked them, for he had never once experienced such a thing before.

On January 16, 1936, Albert Fish was executed.

starseeker
09-02-2006, 10:31 PM
I think I'm gonna be sick now.

Goldenboko
09-02-2006, 10:37 PM
Soon I will be when my armies of Tonberries take over the world!
Muhahahaha!- See I even have a good evil laugh, any good criminal needs a good evil laugh!

YTDN
09-02-2006, 10:46 PM
I think I'm gonna be sick now.

Kuroshima
09-02-2006, 10:48 PM
F f freak she's evil!!!

Odaisé Gaelach
09-02-2006, 10:48 PM
Albert Fish...

Wonderful. :whaaa:

McLovin'
09-02-2006, 10:50 PM
The guy from Chainsaw massacre.

Breine
09-02-2006, 11:42 PM
... That Albert Fish gets my vote... brrr... And I thought that Manson was bad. Creepy.

Dreddz
09-03-2006, 12:10 AM
I'd say the BTK killer was also pretty bad, he was pretty disturbed, and the follow up with his arrest nearly 30 years after all his killings was crazy...

And Ed Gein, the man who influenced the Texas Chainsaw Masscre and Silence Of The Lambs.


Ted Bundy. Confessed to killing 30 women but the actual number of killings is unknown. Police are certain that he has killed more women. Died in 1989.

He also ate someone's ear I believe.

Bart's Friend Milhouse
09-03-2006, 12:38 AM
Since when did people in the 30's use slang terms like 'smurf'?, unless you did a bit of tinkering with your sources. That story is gross

CelloRosin
09-03-2006, 12:42 AM
Let us not forget the arocities of Jeffrey Dahmer. It in sad how people can become this screwed up.....

rubah
09-03-2006, 12:57 AM
mobiletype-- the censor still picks up text in spoiler tags :p

http://www.crimelibrary.com/notorious_murders/famous/bell/index_1.html

fantasyjunkie
09-03-2006, 01:24 AM
Joseph Stalin. I'm not sure that even Hitler could match what that guy did.

Christmas
09-03-2006, 01:30 AM
http://img220.imageshack.us/img220/6383/untitlednz5.png

Also, let's not forget the notorious LITTLE MANUS too. :(

ff7+ff10 gurl 100
09-03-2006, 01:46 AM
Oh my god..I think Albert Fish is disgusting. Im gonna be sick...:barf:

Madame Adequate
09-03-2006, 02:19 AM
The worst criminals ever are the ones who record their crimes on their mobile phone cameras and distribute them to their friends.

Seriously.

How fucking retarded can you get?

I usually find myself more dismayed that someone could be stupid enough to categorize their crime with hard evidence than the crimes they actually commit.

I will presume, however, that you do not mean worst in the sense of most incompetent, but rather in terms of most evil/prolific.

Let me tell you; it's not some nutjob cannibal.

Evastio
09-03-2006, 02:19 AM
The worst criminals are these two guys that were raiding a bank. One robber said "No one move!" His partner moved so he shot him down.

Croyles
09-03-2006, 02:47 AM
The people who hanged Guy Fawkes!

Odaisé Gaelach
09-03-2006, 02:52 AM
I will presume, however, that you do not mean worst in the sense of most incompetent, but rather in terms of most evil/prolific.

Let me tell you; it's not some nutjob cannibal.

Harold Shipman gets my vote. A nice, middle-class doctor, very caring and kind, listening and supportive, loved his patients, frequently made house calls, killed 250 people deliberately and carefully, with morphine injections that he knew would never cure them...

Venom
09-03-2006, 02:52 AM
http://photo-origin.tickle.com/image/141/6/2/O/141628099O451983801.jpg

Madame Adequate
09-03-2006, 03:06 AM
I will presume, however, that you do not mean worst in the sense of most incompetent, but rather in terms of most evil/prolific.

Let me tell you; it's not some nutjob cannibal.

Harold Shipman gets my vote. A nice, middle-class doctor, very caring and kind, listening and supportive, loved his patients, frequently made house calls, killed 250 people deliberately and carefully, with morphine injections that he knew would never cure them...

Against, as deplorable as it is, he doesn't even come close. Serial killers are both evil and terrifying, but they are a very far cry from the worst criminals in Human history.

Odaisé Gaelach
09-03-2006, 03:16 AM
Against, as deplorable as it is, he doesn't even come close. Serial killers are both evil and terrifying, but they are a very far cry from the worst criminals in Human history.

How would yours be then?

theundeadhero
09-03-2006, 03:32 AM
I don't know why but I read this as worst Christmas in history.

nik0tine
09-03-2006, 04:01 AM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v380/nik0tine/shodenwithareallylongarm.jpg

Dignified Pauper
09-03-2006, 04:27 AM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v380/nik0tine/shodenwithareallylongarm.jpg


just think of the devestation he can do with that really long arm.

rubah
09-03-2006, 04:30 AM
I don't know why but I read this as worst Christmas in history.

last christmas;_;

Dell
09-03-2006, 08:19 AM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v380/nik0tine/shodenwithareallylongarm.jpg


just think of the devestation he can do with that really long arm.

And with that large nostril. Plus an evil smile!

Quindiana Jones
09-03-2006, 10:55 AM
GOD.

Madame Adequate
09-03-2006, 12:35 PM
Against, as deplorable as it is, he doesn't even come close. Serial killers are both evil and terrifying, but they are a very far cry from the worst criminals in Human history.

How would yours be then?

Jo Stalin, Mao Tse-tung, Adolf Hitler, Pol Pot, Pinochet, Idi Amin, Saddam Hussein, plenty of people like that.

Oh, and what Pure Quin said.

KentaRawr!
09-03-2006, 01:38 PM
The Count and Countess of a mansion in Transylvania. They hired hitmen to cut off people's heads. They kept the heads and drank their blood. n_n Then some random people made up "Vampires". Zomg.

licence
09-03-2006, 01:40 PM
I agree with all the evil dictators and such. But seriel killers are just as bad IMO. If you take people's lives you're all in the same boat and should be shot. (Not soldiers that are fighting for their country, unless they commit war crimes)

Kentarou, I thought people made up vampires because of Vlad the Impaler?

KentaRawr!
09-03-2006, 01:44 PM
Oh yeah! That's the part I forgot! I remember my father saying SOMETHING about an impaler, but I only remembered the drinking blood/count and countess/hitmen part.