Metallica suing fans

[fantasyjunkie]

I read a post somewhere saying that Metallica sued it's fans. Did they really do that? Man, if it's true that's really sad because I like their music. What happened?

[Rostum]

I think that was run by Lars Ulrich, over some Napster thing.

Edit: You can read more here (http://www.disinfo.com/archive/pages/dossier/id374/pg1/).

[Orion Zero]

I read that it was soley Lars Ulrich who took care of this dispute, this was while James was in rehab, Jason was gone, Rob wasn't there yet and Kirk didn't take part. Only few fans were actually sued. I know not if there actually were any. They just got banned from Napster and Napster itself got a kick in the ass from Lars and other bands in that dispute. this was in 2001/2002 though. We all know Lars lurves deh munneh. I don't know much on this, I'm more into Dio and W.A.S.P. Than Metallica.

[bipper]

Metalica sucks; either way.

[I Am Stoner]

<!--Actually time to smack that self loving assholes over the head really hard many times with a golf club. First Metalica sell out, then they produce songs that, quite frankly are worse the <img src="/xxx.gif"><img src="/xxx.gif"><img src="/xxx.gif"><img src="/xxx.gif"> I flush in the morning, now they sue thier fans????? You know what, fuck metalica, bunch of motherfuckers anyway. Fucking pricks.-->*snip*

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[tailz]

Metalica sucks; either way.


you sir, fail

[Orion Zero]

This was 4-5 years ago, before Newsted left. Lars Ulrich alone launched the campaign like I said before. I don't even know if any fans were sued. Napster sucks anyway so there's a good reason to support Moneybagz Lars Ulrich in suing Napster all those years back. Their music archives are on itunes and myspace now. I don't mean to be a Metallica fanboy here but let me just say, Stoner, you're going to get yourself flamed to hell, hated and more in this thread, usernotes, PMs and more if you make comments like that on bands. Metallica have made many great songs, from Kill 'em all to St. Anger. You'll likely get into trouble for posting like that so edit it out before the moderators see, quick, make haste while there is still time. Don't worry, like I said this event happened years ago, don't get conufsed.

[boris no no]

It was a while ago, and they're not sueing people anymore... not that I can tell anyways.
They're great live, go see them.

[fantasyjunkie]

Ahhh ok, it's clear now. Thanks guys for the info! :)

[theundeadhero]

It's really pretty retarded anyway. Twenty years ago people were taking blank tapes and then recording their favorite Metallica cassettes that their friends had. What's the difference?

[Araciel]

there is no difference...but the fact that it's less personal makes it a bit more dangerous to the income of the band...at least in the case of someone borrowing his friend's metallica tape the friend actually BOUGHT it in the first place. with napster, you could download the whole metallica discography for free...i guess it irked the millionaire

[bipper]

If it was cost effective for a person to mail out these blank tapes for free to anyone whom wanted them, it would have been a big deal.

I am against the pirating of music, simply because it is the exact intellectual property that we should pay for. When you buy the CD, and want to back it up, that should be fine to. Either way, fuck the music industry. I hardly buy any albums anymore, because the the bull<img src="/xxx.gif"><img src="/xxx.gif"><img src="/xxx.gif"><img src="/xxx.gif"> that has been comming out of thier greed pig snouts over the last years. I think I bought a total of 3 CDs in the past 3 years. Where as I used to buy like 4 a month. I just lost interest.

And sorry tailz, if a man failz for expressing his opinon, or in my case a fact, I do indeed fail :)

bipper

[Reine]

I like Metallica, but I respect what others think of them. Although I get insulted more by Metallica fands than by peopol who dont like them. Mainly because I like my Reload album, which most fans dont like.

[Rostum]

And sorry tailz, if a man failz for expressing his opinon, or in my case a fact, I do indeed fail :)

While I agree they suck now, they were good back in the day. And yes, you do fail just from this statement. Opinion is fine and all, but actually being arrogant enough to call it a fact, makes you absolutely fail. :)

I think it wasn't that great of a move by Lars. But just because they are famous doesn't really make them smart or anything...

[Moon Rabbits]

Metallica still had fans after they did that? :confused:

[Venom]

Metallica still had fans after they did that? :confused:

Unfortunately.:(

[Roto13]

And sorry tailz, if a man failz for expressing his opinon, or in my case a fact, I do indeed fail :)Opinion is fine and all, but actually being arrogant enough to call it a fact, makes you absolutely fail.When did he ever call it a fact?

[Rostum]

When did he ever call it a fact?

Re-read the thread. -_-; Incase you still don't get it, tailz said bipper failed for saying Metallica suck, and bipper said he can't fail because it's fact.

[Roto13]

Oh.

*backs away slowly*

You're on your own, bip

[Fuego]

Old metallica music is so much fun to play when you have your guitar and amp and a cd player playin' really loud ... i tried playing king nothing and aint my bitch ... its not the same as fight fire with fire or damage inc. or blackened. (well nothing off their newer albums is)


Well either way it (Lars's lawsuit(s)) has tainted my view of them as a band and their (IMO) lack of effort for like 3 Cd's doesn't make me run back to a defensive position for them. Kirk doesn't really even play solos anymore.
He just turns on his wahwah and maybe a couple of other effects and trills a few notes and throws a scale picked like sanitarium or fade to black. What happened ?

[Crushed Hope]

What happened ?

They realized they didn't have to put effort into their music to suck?

[Fuego]

What happened ?

They realized they didn't have to put effort into their music to suck?ROFLMFAO !!!!! i think maybe after And Justice that is a totaly true statement ;)

Its funny because the whole band wrote St. Anger together and it sux the most ... /sigh !

[Bloodline666]

I was not surprised by Lars' decision to sue these fans over the use of Napster.

Metallica's road to "selling out" began with the Black Album, when they went from pure, no-BS, fast-paced tempo, insanely brutal, radio-unfriendly thrash metal, to watered-down, slowed-down tempo, radio-friendly metal that's essentially borderline pop-metal. That road continued with Load and ReLoad, when they went in a bluesy direction, but during that period, what pissed the fans off more than that was the fact that they cut their hair, which was a stupid reason to accuse them of selling out. That particular reason to call Metallica sell-outs is also contradictory and hypocritical in a sense, because Kerry King of Slayer and Scott Ian of Anthrax, both of whom had long hair during the 80s, shaved their heads bald. Did any of their fans accuse them of selling out for cutting their hair? Absolutely not. I mean, after all, shaving your head bald DOES count as cutting your hair, doesn't it? Bruce Dickinson of Iron Maiden cut his hair.

Metallica's first mistake was hiring Bob Rock to produce the Black Album. If I'm not mistaken, Bob Rock is associated with the production of pop-metal, such as Bon Jovi's "Slippery When Wet", and glam-metal albums, such as Motley Crue's "Dr. Feelgood." That decision to have Bob Rock produce the Black Album has led Metallica down the road to making radio-friendly albums and songs for the purpose of financial gain.

Fortunately for the disenfranchised Metallica fans who have been betrayed by the band, such as myself, Bob Rock, who produced every Metallica album from the Black Album onward, will NOT be producing Metallica's next album. Instead, it will be Rick Rubin behind the soundboards. Rubin's claim to fame among metal's inner circles is having produced what is perhaps the heaviest and most aggressive metal album of all time (and my personal favorite album): Slayer's 1986 album, Reign In Blood. I'm hoping this will set Metallica back on the right track musically.

[bipper]

And sorry tailz, if a man failz for expressing his opinon, or in my case a fact, I do indeed fail :)Opinion is fine and all, but actually being arrogant enough to call it a fact, makes you absolutely fail.When did he ever call it a fact?

Heh it was a Joke; prehaps mellodrama sacrasm tags next time? :)
I so pass :mad:

I do agree with thier decline; I liked them a bit slightly after loaded, but the polotics and assfaceness left a skidmark on any intrest I could muster. Alomst like Green Days political banter now.

[Venom]

What happened ?

They realized they didn't have to put effort into their music to suck?

Seconded.:)

[Fuego]

I was not surprised by Lars' decision to sue these fans over the use of Napster.

Metallica's road to "selling out" began with the Black Album, when they went from pure, no-BS, fast-paced tempo, insanely brutal, radio-unfriendly thrash metal, to watered-down, slowed-down tempo, radio-friendly metal that's essentially borderline pop-metal. That road continued with Load and ReLoad, when they went in a bluesy direction, but during that period, what pissed the fans off more than that was the fact that they cut their hair, which was a stupid reason to accuse them of selling out. That particular reason to call Metallica sell-outs is also contradictory and hypocritical in a sense, because Kerry King of Slayer and Scott Ian of Anthrax, both of whom had long hair during the 80s, shaved their heads bald. Did any of their fans accuse them of selling out for cutting their hair? Absolutely not. I mean, after all, shaving your head bald DOES count as cutting your hair, doesn't it? Bruce Dickinson of Iron Maiden cut his hair.

Metallica's first mistake was hiring Bob Rock to produce the Black Album. If I'm not mistaken, Bob Rock is associated with the production of pop-metal, such as Bon Jovi's "Slippery When Wet", and glam-metal albums, such as Motley Crue's "Dr. Feelgood." That decision to have Bob Rock produce the Black Album has led Metallica down the road to making radio-friendly albums and songs for the purpose of financial gain.

Fortunately for the disenfranchised Metallica fans who have been betrayed by the band, such as myself, Bob Rock, who produced every Metallica album from the Black Album onward, will NOT be producing Metallica's next album. Instead, it will be Rick Rubin behind the soundboards. Rubin's claim to fame among metal's inner circles is having produced what is perhaps the heaviest and most aggressive metal album of all time (and my personal favorite album): Slayer's 1986 album, Reign In Blood. I'm hoping this will set Metallica back on the right track musically.I never heard that whole because metallica cut their hair that they were automatically sell outs ... i always used the term sell out and metallica in the same sentence when i was talking about their music ... Load came out right before i went to military boarding school ... this album was supposed to be better than black (which was when i started calling them sell outs). It wasn't and i was sooo pissed because i went and bought tickets to the concert (when they toured load -of crap-) for a celebration of completing a year of hell !

I was sooo let down but the fact that they were like "we do what we do and if anybody says that were sell out than F*** 'em, just because we don't play a million miles a second" (then) and st. anger now ... :tumble: As far as i am concerned Metallica died with Cliff ... they cut one wicked album, after (i think of it as a tribute to cliff) but AJFA was the last thing (if i were in the band) i would put my name on.

I am not saying i could write "and nothing else matters" or "struggle within" or maybe be more technical or faster or whatever. I'm just saying it looks like metal is going down the poop chute if we allow metallica to lead the front lines of "Metal" as they are now ... maybe old and over the hill, maybe they just don't give a F**k ...

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