Car 4 Moi

[Shlup]

I need a second and third and fourth and fifth and etc opinion. Which of these cars should I get?

Option 1
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v54/ShlupQuack/prius.jpg
-SITE (http://www.toyota.com/prius/)-

Pros:
-Hybrid
-Pretty
-Other stuff that's probably over my head.

Cons:
-Expensive

Approximate cost: $22,755


Option 2
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v54/ShlupQuack/yaris.jpg
-Site (http://www.toyota.com/yaris/)-

Pros:
-More affordable
-Still pretty

Cons:
-Not a hybrid
-It's new so there's not much info on it

Approximate cost: $15,015

[Yamaneko]

What's your budget?

[Rye]

Prius, because if it is Hybrid like you said, you end up saving money on gas so it kind of works out after a while. :)

[Yamaneko]

To save the money she would probably have to keep the car for ten years.

[Psychotic]

"Pretty" is not a pro for either of those cars.

[o_O]

'67 Mustang.

[mooglebunni608]

Scion. Duh ^_^

[DK]

"Pretty" is not a pro for either of those cars.

QFT

edit: Looking at the sites, the Yaris seems to be the better car overall, so I'd say that.

[Shlup]

I say my budget is for the Prius, BJ says my budget is for the Yaris. Really, I could afford either.

"Pretty" is too a pro. They're both adorable! The Yaris hatchback is actually way cuter, but I need a four-door.

I hate Scions. xP

[Yamaneko]

You could buy two Kia's with that money!

[Roto13]

They're both ugly as sin, but the first one's a hybrid, so yay.

[Psychotic]

"Pretty" is too a pro. They're both adorable!I've sneezed things more adorable than those cars.

[oddler]

You could buy two Kia's with that money!

And end up paying four times as much.

[Shlup]

My dad has a Kia. I hate it.

[Christmas]

http://www.canole.com/images/Batmobile1.jpg

[Rengori]

If you live anywhere near the mountains (mainly the Rockies), forget these and get something like a Jeep or a pickup truck.

EDIT: Oh, California. Than go with the exact opposite of what I said.

[Rye]

http://www.canole.com/images/Batmobile1.jpg

Christmas can drive my car. :bigsmile:

[Lynx]

i like the yaris looks more but the prius is a hybrid which means itll make up for its cost in the end go with the prius

[Rusty]

I'd go with the Yaris - for the time it'll take you to get your money back on a Hybrid anyway. I'm all for Hybrids - but yea.

I can't believe how cheap those cars are! You can't find a Hybrid in Australia for under $40, 000 from what I've seen and Toyote Yaris Sedans would be around $25, 000.

[Shlup]

http://www.canole.com/images/Batmobile1.jpg

I prefer the 1970's version, but Batmobile is my first choice. ;_;

[NorthernChaosGod]

'67 Mustang.

Wins.

[Strider]

I can't stand driving sedans. :p

[Miriel]

I say the Yaris is slightly less ugly than the Prius. So... go with the Yaris!

[Shlup]

I can't stand driving sedans. :p

It has to fit babies in it without being a minivan or SUV. xP

I say the Yaris is slightly less ugly than the Prius. So... go with the Yaris!

You know they're freaking adorable!

[Strider]

The Yaris looks less ugly. I'd go with that.

[Levian]

You can pick the Prius if you want. I'll just have to double my pollution to make up for you. :cool:

[Shlup]

Levian, I hate you.

This is the third time I've checked the poll and it's been a three-way tie. ;_;

[Jess]

They're both ugly! :jess:

I say the Yaris, though.

[Shlup]

What is wrong with you people?? They're both adorable!

[Christmas]

I personally think that a horse will be better than any cars. :bigsmile:

[Resha]

My dad has a Kia. I hate it.

Kias are so cute, though! And they come in pretty colours. Go for a Mini Cooper. Awesome car.

(Yaris)

[Polaris]

Defenelty the Prius... That car is hot... :)

[Shlup]

It's been 2-2-2, then 3-3-3, then 4-4-4, now 5-5-5. :aimmad:


I personally think that a horse will be better than any cars. :bigsmile:

If I could fit three carseats on a horse I totally would.

[Christmas]

http://www.therhythmsystem.com/Carriages/Carriage_-_white_with_horse_and_driver.jpg

:bigsmile:

[RSL]

I've never even heard of those cars! They are both indeed ugly. I'd say go with the hybrid one if you think you can afford it!

[Rye]

Shlup, I think they're both cute too, so I guess we're just the odd ones out. xD

[Raistlin]

They both look ugly. Get a Camry.

The Yaris is a lot cheaper and still gets 35 mpg. I'd say it's the better deal. And it looks slightly less ugly.

EDIT: I voted "something else." Oh, and a Camry hybrid is like $3,000 more. And the non-hybrids are cheaper.

[Roto13]

http://www.therhythmsystem.com/Carriages/Carriage_-_white_with_horse_and_driver.jpg

:bigsmile:

:bigsmile:

[fire_of_avalon]

'67 Mustang.
I love you.


They're both ugly as sin.



I can't stand driving sedans. :p

It has to fit babies in it without being a minivan or SUV. xP
Babies are pretty small.

I typically don't trust incredibly different technology when it's this new. If you know of a mechanic shop or anyone else outside the dealership who can handle working on a hybrid vehicle, then go for the hybrid. If not, I go with the Yaris.

But the Solara is the Toyota hot car.

[Jojee]

Hybrid cos' it's cooooool :love:

[Khaotic]

I say neither, why go for a 2007 car? 2005 or lower is better, not only is it cheaper, but you don't lose a few grand for driving it off the original property. Plus, seeing as its brandnew, you need to deal with all the problems and failures that company may have had.

[Jojee]

Yeah, PS I'd like to add, Shklup, you're rich! :O

[NorthernChaosGod]

What is wrong with you people?? They're both adorable!

Both of those cars are uglier than Osama's mama.

Get a Honda Civic Si.

[Cz]

My mother drove a Yaris for a while when her car was in for servicing, and she hated it. I couldn't honestly say that the Prius is any better, but I imagine the build quality would be slightly better (an assumption that I'm basing on nothing in particular). Still, I'd shop around a bit more if I were you.

Oh, and both cars are ugly. :cool:

[Shlup]

I want a hybrid 'cause it's liek super cool. "I just want to be like, uh, part of the solution. THAAAAANKS!"

'67 Mustangs are tits though. But not good mommy cars.

Camry is too much of a mommy car.


Yeah, PS I'd like to add, Shklup, you're rich! :O

BJ and I are both just good with money. We have two incomes and in January we're moving into a house with another couple so we'll be saving about $300 a month on rent.

[Araciel]

i would say go with whichever is bigger

[Raistlin]

The Camry hybrid comes in a 6-cylinder version, I believe, whereas that hybrid is only 4-cylinders. Therefore, performance-wise, the Camry is <i>less</i> of a mommy car. :p

[My_car_is_faster_than_you]

(I am a car FREAK and know my cars inside and out.) I have an 89' Phantom R/T, (good luck finding someone on this forum that knows what that is).

So, on with the advice, IT'S LONG....

No go with the Prius. The hybrids batteries die, and then have to be replaced, which means $4000 down the drain, and all your gas "savings" is gone. Besides, the Prius gets about 44.6 MPG with average driving instead of the 60-70-80 MPG you hear about. Not much of an improvement over the 38 MPG that the Yaris or Echo gets. So, the Prius is not an effective alternative to a regular sole gas engined car. Neither is the Honda Insight.

BUT, that does NOT MEAN THAT I SUGGEST THE YARIS either. The Yaris incorperates the 1.5 Liter engine that is used in the Tercel and the Echo, which isn't exactly Toyota's strong point. The 1.5 liter cars are okay for durability and decent for gas savings. Usually they wear out around 100K, (if they haven't already had their share of problems), and just get worse over time. The Echo, Yaris, Tercel 1.5 cars are not the typical indestructable Toyotas. That's why their resale value is low.

I really suggest (sticking with Toyota) the Corolla. 37 MPG (not a huge difference form the Prius or Yaris), better resale value, better power, more features, more car, and best of all, it's a hell of a lot more reliable than the 1.5 cars. Corollas do have the track record for going 150, 200 and 250,000 miles, and they use a much better built 1.8 liter which gives off more power and torque.

Other suggestions, Mazda 3i or 3s (2nd best), Pontiac Vibe or Toyota Matrix. Ford Focus are solid cars but the MPG suffers from a powerful engine. Hyundai Accents (or Kia Rios) are decent cars for the money, but are unproven. Hyundai Elantras (Kia Spectras) are only acceptable with a Manual, but the MPG is subpar. Subaru Imprezas get only 26 MPG, but they have a lot of power for the car.

Do not get the: Honda Civic 06' (too many changes, so first year reliablility is poor), Volkswagen anything (horrible reliability), Nissan Sentra (below average reliability), Dodge Caliber (no resale value), or Chevy Cobalt (unreliable). That's just off the top of my head.

[Yamaneko]

Shlup's going to be a mommy?!

[Dr Unne]

The Prius and Yaris are two cars I was considering getting myself.

The Yaris has the spedometer right in the middle of the dashboard, over top of the radio. EDIT: better picture: http://a332.g.akamai.net/f/332/936/12h/www.edmunds.com//media/roadtests/firstdrive/2007/07.toyota.yaris/07.toyota.yaris.liftback.dsh.500.jpg This is one reason I would not get a Yaris. I think it would be difficult to drive like that. The 2007's may be different though.

I would be hesitant to get a Prius because it's so new, I'd be afraid it would break. But that's based on no research or hard data whatsoever. It may be worthwhile to do some actual research on reliability etc.

I'd probably drive them both and see which is more comfortable. If there's no noticeable difference, I'd get the cheaper one, or else the one that is smaller.

Neither car is ugly. What is wrong with you people?

[My_car_is_faster_than_you]

C'mon the Yaris snout is grotesque.

But anyway, about the Prius reliability, it's very reliable and many of them already have 140,000 miles plus. The conjunction of the electric motor and the gas motor is a very simple device, and the electric motor takes away the force initial that the gas engines usually have to deal with. It's a very reliable car, and more reliable than most.

[Shoeberto]

Be careful about hybrids. I remember GM making some sort of press release about how, since the technology is so expensive still on them, that the gas advantage doesn't really make much of a difference in the end, as far as money goes. Though, if you're some kinda hippy and just don't want to use as much oil all-around, then go for it.

[Roto13]

Neither car is ugly. What is wrong with you people?

We have these terrible growths on our faces that project the images in front of us into our brains.

[My_car_is_faster_than_you]

Hybrid technology is not expensive (really), but everyone likes to think that it is. It's a generator, CV transmission, and an engine. It's so simple how it works, that it's not really revolutionary or a breakthrough at all.

Remember, the Prius CLAIMS 60-51 MPG, but they really get 40 to 45. I drove one for a few months, and it never got 50 mpg. If you be really nice to them, then maybe, but if you like to keep up with traffic, they're not too great on gas.

[Raistlin]

Neither car is ugly. What is wrong with you people?

I find it amusing that the girls and Brian like the looks of those cars, whereas the guys realize that those are ugly cars.

My car, for the record, is sexy.

[o_O]

If it's fuel economy you want, go for the <a href="http://www.wrightspeed.com/x1.html">Wrightspeed X1</a>.

It's completely electric, and compared with a regular car, it gets the equivalent of 169mpg.
It also outperforms Modenas and Carerra GTs, amongst other supercars.

http://www.wrightspeed.com/images/IMG_4001.jpg

[Shlup]

Now this thread is getting useful. The Yaris's dumpy little snout is adorable though! But only on the hatchback. Which I can't get 'cause I need four doors. Damn.

My husband's trying to convince me to get a Corolla, but they're not dumpy and cute. :(

Shlup's going to be a mommy?!

Yeah. In like... five-ish years.

[Dr Unne]

I find it amusing that the girls and Brian like the looks of those cars, whereas the guys realize that those are ugly cars.

My car, for the record, is sexy.

Yes, as we all know cars reflect directly upon the state of your penis. I'm glad to hear that you're sexually attracted to your car and I'm sure you two make a lovely couple. Thanks for sharing.

[Shlup]

I lol'd. xD

[Yamaneko]

Well, we all know the "stories" about Mini owners. ;)

[Raistlin]

Yes, as we all know cars reflect directly upon the state of your penis.

Exactly. And mine's sexy rather than, and I quote Shlup, "dumpy."


My husband's trying to convince me to get a Corolla, but they're not dumpy and cute.

Gas and price-wise, the Corolla is probably the best buy. It's not as good as a Camry in performance or looks, but it does have the benefit of not being ugly as sin.

[My_car_is_faster_than_you]

If you want the cute dumpy nose (no offense, but I don't like it), and you are only going to get a new car just after the warranty expires, then the Yaris is probably okay. The only thing to consider is resale value, which the 1.5 cars don't have a lot of.

[Raistlin]

Shlup: have you considered Hondas?

<a href="http://automobiles.honda.com/models/model_overview.asp?ModelName=Civic+Hybrid">Civic Hybrid</a>

<a href="http://automobiles.honda.com/models/model_overview.asp?ModelName=Civic+Sedan">Civic Sedan regular</a>

It has a little dumpiness and similar prices. And they're not as ugly (still nothing great, though).

[Shlup]

Yes, Toyotas, Hondas, and the Mazda3 are on my okay list. My top choices have been Prius and Yaris but I can be swayed.

[Araciel]

Neither car is ugly. What is wrong with you people?

We have these terrible growths on our faces that project the images in front of us into our brains.

dude...i want to have your baby for that comment

[My_car_is_faster_than_you]

I would stick with Toyota or Mazda 3, but no Hondas. Honda's reliability has declined steadily since 2000 (whew, I have a 99'), and has had a lot of problems, especially with the Accords and Civics. The performance side of Honda is okay, such as the Prelude and S2000, but I assume that's not what you're looking for. The new 2006 Civic is bound to be a load of problems since it's brand new redesign for this year. If you check out www.carsurvey.org, there are hundreds of reviews that people have written about their cars and whether they'd buy another one. Honda is covered with dissatisfied reviews and mad customers.

[Rusty]

If Mazda's are okay with - go for the Mazda 6. But don't forget Mazda's are pricey to repair, their parts are expensive.

[Decessus]

Go for the Peel Trident. (http://www.automotoportal.com/media/images/vijesti/060818005.11_mn.jpg)
It has a great design and gives plenty of room for the kids.

[My_car_is_faster_than_you]

No, no go with the Mazda 6 for reliability reasons. This one is tricky cause only the Mazda 3 is made in Japan along with the 5. But the 6 is a Ford Fusion chassis with a the euro 3.0 V6 or the duratec 2.3, so the reliabilty is below average for the 6. Not bashing anyone, just felt that I needed to speak up.

[NorthernChaosGod]

Neither car is ugly. What is wrong with you people?

I find it amusing that the girls and Brian like the looks of those cars, whereas the guys realize that those are ugly cars.

Yup.

Get an Ariel Atom.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VdkEV-t9jg0

[DK]

Neither car is ugly. What is wrong with you people?

We have these terrible growths on our faces that project the images in front of us into our brains.

I lol'd.

[Quindiana Jones]

Why don't you wanna buy a good car?

[Shlup]

What's your definition of "good car"?

[Quindiana Jones]

A Renault is easily better than a Toyota.

[Raistlin]

Toyotas are very good cars.

[Roto13]

Get a Chevy Malibu.

[My_car_is_faster_than_you]

Toyotas make some of the best cars in the world today, so unless Renault has picked up the production standards since last I drove them, I doubt they'd match a Toyota. (I'm no Toyota freak, I own nothing but Dodges) But about the Renaults anyway, we don't have them here in the U.S. in terms of new ones. We do have the Eagle Renault Medallions that were utterly useless pieces of crap, and they are 17 years old at the newest. However, I'd sure like to get my hands on a Clio V6 24V, if I could. Thems be sweet.

And about the Malibu, why? Okay, they're nice looking, but that's it. I'm surprised they still make them, cause the 1st gens were subpar cars, and the 2nd gen are just unreliable. According to the official studies, JD power and Consumer Reports stated that the Malibus were "Way below average" in terms of problems per 100 vehicles. Then, there's the repairs that I've seen them go through. I'm a former GM service technician, and I saw a lot of Malibus come in, and not just for oil changes.

But if you mean a 67' Malibu SS convertible 327, hell yes!!

[Roto13]

And about the Malibu, why?

Because it's the only car I've ever driven. :P

[My_car_is_faster_than_you]

Okay, didn't mean any offense. See, I'm coming from owning 23 different cars and having driven or used over 150 different cars as demos, so I've driven a ton!

Malibus are nice riding, I'll admit.

[Quindiana Jones]

I love Renaults :love:

Out of the 2 I'd go Prius, because I hate the Yaris adverts :bigsmile:

[Rusty]

Okay, didn't mean any offense. See, I'm coming from owning 23 different cars and having driven or used over 150 different cars as demos, so I've driven a ton!

Malibus are nice riding, I'll admit.

You musta picked some bad lemons to own 23!

[My_car_is_faster_than_you]

Nope, only the following of the list were lemons. The rest of them I just would buy and horde them in my driveway until the neighbors got mad.

99' and 85' Honda Civic #1 and #2. (Third was okay)
05' Ford...something Star 823 miles (needed new engine)
and the Detomaso Panterra (caught fire on the way home)

The: Ford Thunderbird 94' V8, Mazda 626 89', Acura Legend 92', Toyota Tacoma 85', Toyota Corolla 96', Geo Metro 96', Honda Accord 83', Ford Taurus 95', Jeep Cherokee 88', Mercury Sable 99', Triumph TR7 77', Honda C series (78', 79' and 77'), Honda Euro 76', Mitsubishi Galant 01', Chrysler Phantom R/T 89', Acura RSX 02', and VW Corrado were all okay. Whew!!

[eestlinc]

buy a Toyota Corolla. It's infinitely reliable and I thinkt he cheapest car to own since it rarely has problems, the parts are cheap, it gets good gas mileage, and it doesn't have too many frills.

[Raistlin]

I will concur with eesty's selection. Corolla's as cheap as the Yaris and a well-known reliable car. It gets ~35 mpg (same as the Yaris), and has the benefit of <a href="http://www.toyota.com/corolla/index.html?s_van=GM_TN_COROLLA_INDEX">not being nearly as ugly</a>.

[Peegee]

I drive a corolla and while I hate it in theory (All chinese drive corollas), I can't argue against fuel efficiency.

30 L per week (30 L = 7.92516154 US gallons) is what I spend on it. And I drive a 2003 model.

[My_car_is_faster_than_you]

I drive a corolla and while I hate it in theory (All chinese drive corollas), I can't argue against fuel efficiency.

30 L per week (30 L = 7.92516154 US gallons) is what I spend on it. And I drive a 2003 model.

That depends on how much a week you drive. If you drive 280 km a week, then that's not great gas mileage at all. I only use 20 L per week, but I drive only 190 km a week.

But I know Corollas get good mileage. I had one, and it was a 6L car (6L/100 km) 38-41 MPG

[Peegee]

I drive a corolla and while I hate it in theory (All chinese drive corollas), I can't argue against fuel efficiency.

30 L per week (30 L = 7.92516154 US gallons) is what I spend on it. And I drive a 2003 model.

That depends on how much a week you drive. If you drive 280 km a week, then that's not great gas mileage at all. I only use 20 L per week, but I drive only 190 km a week.

But I know Corollas get good mileage. I had one, and it was a 6L car (6L/100 km) 38-41 MPG

I forgot to put in how much I drive.

About 500 KM a week.

[SammieBabe]

Someone mentioned Mazda's earlier in the thread. I test drove a Mazda 3 and a 6 before I bought my car. They're both awesome. My Sister-in-law bought a 6 and adores it.
I didn't end up buying either car, but it wasn't because I didn't like them. Hubbie works for Ford, which owns Mazda, but his discount on Fords was better at the time. :D
And Mommy car? Already?! You guys aren't wasting any time! ;)
And foa, babies are small yes, but car seats and diaper bags and strollers take up alot of room...;)

[Shlup]

Okay, I may conceed to get a Corolla but I'm gonna still look at a Prius and Yaris and Mazda 3. And RAV4. I want a RAV4 but we already have a truck so I should get a small car... But taller cars are easier to load carseats in and out of!

And Mommy car? Already?! You guys aren't wasting any time! ;)

Not yet, but it's gotta last that long.

[eestlinc]

Mazdas break down a lot and have tons of little problems.

[XxSephirothxX]

One of my friends just got a new Corolla. It's a very nice car, and considering the typical reliability of Toyota, I'd bet money that it's a very good investment. Really, with Toyota or Honda, you can't go wrong, but I think the Corolla's a great buy.

[My_car_is_faster_than_you]

Check out the Mazda 5. I don't know anything about reliability, but they sure are nice for the "can't quite get an SUV" but "don't want a little car" people.

Most Mazdas are crap, but the 3, Miata and supposedly the 5 are good cars that are built in Japan. The 6, Tribute, MPV and RX-8 all suck.

[SammieBabe]

Mazdas break down a lot and have tons of little problems.

My husband drove a Mazda Protege for 5 years and had minimal problems. And he also made tons of aftermarket modifications to the car and it never really had a problem. He only sold it because he wanted a faster car.
Also, if you are swayed to Mazdas Shlup, I can talk to hubbie to see if he can get you a discount...:)

[Raistlin]

Even the occasional Ford can go through life without many problems. That doesn't mean it's the standard. :p

[My_car_is_faster_than_you]

I had a Taurus with 162,000 miles, and a Mercury Sable 213,400 miles with the original engine and tranny. But that was a Ford pushrod V6, not the flimsy DOHC belt driven euro imitation. Every company has their good and bads.

[Shlup]

Mazda 5 looks like a minivan. *gag*

I'm leaning towards the Corolla though. Even though I don't really want one. *pout*

[Raistlin]

You're such a baby.

[Shlup]

I'm making headway in convincing BJ to go for the RAV4 though. Muahahaha

[Drift]

Mazdas break down a lot and have tons of little problems.

only cause of the rotary engine

[Melkor_]

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