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Devourment
10-03-2006, 03:19 PM
Brutal, technical, melodic [even though it is not considered to be connected with DM], extreme, blackened & progressive death metal are all welcome to be talked about here aswell.

*I can't be bothered with all that "Just call it death metal, there's no point in all these genres.." and such. I've never heard more rubbish than somehting like that.

So putting aside that rabble who here on this forum listens to death metal / any of the fused genres / subgenres above? & what do you most like about it?

Also:
What are your favourite bands of this genre? Or the ones you enjoy listening / headbanging to most? :D
Any particular musicians from DM you really like?
Are you thinking of getting into a DM band?
Are you in a DM band?

Here are a few bands I really like from the above subgenres of DM:

[*=Favourites]

*Malavolent Creation
Hate Eternal
Insision
Bloodbath
*Cannibal Corpse
*Death
Nile
*Decapitated
*Cryptopsy
Ackercocke
*At the Gates
Children of Bodom
Arch Enemy
Behemoth
Decide
*Immolation
Necrophagist
Six Feet Under
Suffocation

I don't mind people who don't like DM coming in here & putting their opinion in the thread as to why they don't like it, but only if you back up your opinion. No point in having an opinion if you can't back it up...

jrgen
10-03-2006, 05:02 PM
I love death metal. Probably my favourite metal genre.

Favourite bands include: (in alphabetical order and if nothing else is specified, it's regular death metal)

Aborted (grindcore/death)
Aeon
Amon Amarth (melodic death)
Anata (technical death)
At the Gates (melodic death)
Atheist (jazzy thrash/death)
Atrocity (lots of stuff)
Behemoth (the later material is death)
Bloodbath (Swedish death)
Brujeria (grindcore/death)
Carnage (Swedish death)
Chthonic (black metal/melodic death metal/Taiwanese folk)
Cynic (progressive/jazzy death)
Dan Swanö (prgressive death)
Dark Suns (progressive rock/death)
Dark Tranquillity (melodic death)
Death (old school death/post-thrash)
Deicide (generally pretty dull, but some stuff is cool, like Legion)
Demonoid (death/thrash)
Deranged (brutal death) (Plainfield Cemetary is one of the most brutal albums ever created)
Die Apokalyptischen Reiter (good experimental death/new random crap)
Dismember (Swedish death)
Dorn (symphonic/gothic death)
Edge of Sanity (progressive death)
Eisblut
Eisenvater (death metal/doom metal/grindcore)
Eisregen (some deathish material)
Entombed (Swedish death/death 'n roll)
Exhale (death/grindcore)
God Among Insects (brutal death)
Grave (Swedish death) (Into the Grave and all their demo material was probably the most brutal of its time)
Haggard (classical music/folk music/symphonic death/thrash)
Hollenthon (symphonic death)
Hypocrisy (death/melodic death)
Infestdead
Insision (brutal death)
Intestine Baalism (melodic death) (unusually brutal for the genre)
Killaman
Kimaera (melodic doom/death)
Kranium (folk/traditional metal with death vocals)
Luciferion
Morbid Angel
Mortician (really bad, but also kind of fun)
Murder Corporation (brutal/Swedish death)
Necrophagist (technical death)
Nihilist (Swedish death)
Nile (technical/brutal death)
Oathean (folk/melodic death)
Opeth (progressive death)
Orphaned Land (doom/death/progressive death/Arabic and Hebrew folk)
Pan.Thy.Monium (experimental progressive death)
Pandemonium (melodic doom/death)
Pavor (technical death)
Rebaelliun
Ribspreader (Swedish death)
Rudra (Indian folk/death)
Runemagick (doom/death)
Skyfire (melodic death)
Soils of Fate (brutal death)
Sordid (brutal death)
Spawn of Possession (technical/brutal death) (mainly technical)
Stabwound (brutal death)
Suffocation
The Amenta (industrial death)
The Firstbord (Nepalese/Indian folk/death)
The Project Hate MCMXCIX (industrial death)
Theory in Practice (technical death)
Therion (early material was experminental death)
Totenmond (doom/death/punk)
Uncanny (Swedish death)
Unleashed (Swedish death)
Unmoored (progressive death)
Vader (thrash/death)
Visceral Bleeding (brutal death)
Wombbath (brutal death)
Vomitory (brutal death)
Wormed (experimental brutal death)

Note: Swedish death is not the same as melodic death/gothenburg metal.

Ramza Beoulve
10-03-2006, 05:10 PM
I love death metal. Probably my favourite metal genre.

Favourite bands include: (in alphabetical order and if nothing else is specified, it's regular death metal)

Aborted (grindcore/death)
Aeon
Amon Amarth (melodic death)
Anata (technical death)
At the Gates (melodic death)
Atheist (jazzy thrash/death)
Atrocity (lots of stuff)
Behemoth (the later material is death)
Bloodbath (Swedish death)
Brujeria (grindcore/death)
Chthonic (black metal/melodic death metal/Taiwanese folk)
Cynic (progressive/jazzy death)
Dan Swanö (prgressive death)
Dark Suns (progressive rock/death)
Dark Tranquillity (melodic death)
Death (old school death/post-thrash)
Deicide (generally pretty dull, but some stuff is cool, like Legion)
Demonoid (death/thrash)
Deranged (brutal death) (Plainfield Cemetary is one of the most brutal albums ever created)
Die Apokalyptischen Reiter (good experimental death/new random crap)
Dismember (Swedish death)
Dorn (symphonic/gothic death)
Edge of Sanity (progressive death)
Eisblut
Eisenvater (death metal/doom metal/grindcore)
Eisregen (some deathish material)
Entombed (Swedish death/death 'n roll)
Exhale (death/grindcore)
God Among Insects (brutal death)
Grave (Swedish death) (Into the Grave and all their demo material was probably the most brutal of its time)
Haggard (classical music/folk music/symphonic death/thrash)
Hollenthon (symphonic death)
Hypocrisy (death/melodic death)
Infestdead
Insision (brutal death)
Intestine Baalism (melodic death) (unusually brutal for the genre)
Killaman
Kimaera (melodic doom/death)
Kranium (folk/traditional metal with death vocals)
Luciferion
Morbid Angel
Mortician (really bad, but also kind of fun)
Murder Corporation (brutal/Swedish death)
Necrophagist (technical death)
Nihilist (Swedish death)
Nile (technical/brutal death)
Oathean (folk/melodic death)
Opeth (prgressive death)
Orphaned Land (doom/death/progressive death/Arabic and Hebrew folk)
Pan.Thy.Monium (experimental progressive death)
Pandemonium (melodic doom/death)
Pavor (technical death)
Rebaelliun
Ribspreader (Swedish death)
Rudra (Indian folk/death)
Runemagick (doom/death)
Skyfire (melodic death)
Soils of Fate (brutal death)
Sordid (brutal death)
Spawn of Possession (technical/brutal death) (mainly technical)
Stabwound (brutal death)
Suffocation
The Amenta (industrial death)
The Firstbord (Nepalese/Indian folk/death)
The Project Hate MCMXCIX (industrial death)
Theory in Practice (technical death)
Therion (early material was experminental death)
Totenmond (doom/death/punk)
Uncanny (Swedish death)
Unleashed (Swedish death)
Unmoored (progressive death)
Vader (thrash/death)
Visceral Bleeding (brutal death)
Wombbath (brutal death)
Vomitory (brutal death)
Wormed (experimental brutal death)
Yup, it is also my opinion :p

Venom
10-03-2006, 07:40 PM
Out of the Death metal Genre I only like Morbid Angel and Death.

Crushed Hope
10-03-2006, 07:50 PM
Opeth (progressive death)

Commonly made mistake. Opeth is progressive metal with harsh vocals, hardly any other death metal influence aside from that.

Amazing subgenre of metal, certainly the most physically demanding. I absolutely love Stargazer mostly. Best band from the style.

I tend to prefer black metal though.

Bloodline666
10-03-2006, 09:16 PM
To me, the death metal bands that really stand out are Arch Enemy and Children Of Bodom. Melodic Death Metal really stands out from Death Metal as a whole, which is why it's my favorite form of Death Metal.

I also like Six Feet Under, Cannibal Corpse, and Morbid Angel.

Kappy
10-03-2006, 09:21 PM
Yeah. Opeth are Doom Metal. Apparently.

Anyway, I don't like strict Death Metal, although Black Metal is good. Dimmu Borgir are amazing. How can a fat guy drum so fast?

jrgen
10-03-2006, 09:22 PM
Commonly made mistake. Opeth is progressive metal with harsh vocals, hardly any other death metal influence aside from that.
I hear clear death metal influences on the Deliverance album and they are there on most albums, just not as prominently. I am perfectly aware of what death metal is, I am well acquainted with Opeth's music and I certainly did not write "progressive death" by mistake.

Mythra
10-03-2006, 09:57 PM
I like Children of Bodom alot. Not really sure what else I listen to that would be considered death metal, I usually don't pay attention to genre's. I just listen to it and if it sounds good, all the better ;)

jrgen
10-03-2006, 10:36 PM
Children of Bodom is not death metal.

Paro
10-03-2006, 10:52 PM
I love Death Metal.

Vital Remains
Six Feet Under
Deicide
Amon Amarth

the list goes on and on...

Captain Maxx Power
10-03-2006, 11:14 PM
I do a killer Death Grunt, I should front a Death Metal band.

Mythra
10-03-2006, 11:35 PM
Children of Bodom is not death metal.

My bad, told ya I really don't pay attention to genres ;). I just try listening to it and if I like it then I get into it. Genres just really matter that much to me.

Crushed Hope
10-04-2006, 12:10 AM
Commonly made mistake. Opeth is progressive metal with harsh vocals, hardly any other death metal influence aside from that.
I hear clear death metal influences on the Deliverance album and they are there on most albums, just not as prominently. I am perfectly aware of what death metal is, I am well acquainted with Opeth's music and I certainly did not write "progressive death" by mistake.

Progressive death still is wrong. They are progressive metal with harsh vocals. Even ask the UM people about it. :p


To me, the death metal bands that really stand out are Arch Enemy and Children Of Bodom. Melodic Death Metal really stands out from Death Metal as a whole, which is why it's my favorite form of Death Metal.

Yeah, as stated before CoB isn't death metal, however Arch Enemy isn't death metal either. Melodic Death as you are refering to it is called melo-death, and is closer in relation to power metal than death metal. True melodic death metal is death metal bands with more apparant melodies than typical death metal, i.e. Stargazer, Kronos, Anata, etc.

BardTard
10-04-2006, 12:20 AM
I make my neighbors and my sims listen to death metal, cus it's that good.

Jack
10-04-2006, 06:09 AM
I like metal. Not fussed really.

My only problem is all these sub-systems. I just don't see a need to but everything in a catagory.

Crushed Hope
10-04-2006, 09:05 PM
I like metal. Not fussed really.

My only problem is all these sub-systems. I just don't see a need to but everything in a catagory.

Sub-genres? And of course we run into the typical "no need for categorization sheep/drone" :rolleyes2

There is a need to categorize metal into subgenres because each of them sounds entirely different from the others. That is why there is a need for it.

NorthernChaosGod
10-05-2006, 01:32 PM
I loves me some death metal. :cool: Tie for my favorite genre of music.

My favorite bands would be:

Cannibal Corpse (#1 death metal band ever!)
Necrophagist
Amon Amarth
Nile
Deicide

Pure Strife
10-05-2006, 09:30 PM
I'm a big fan of Death. Chuck was friggin awesome, I particularly like his voice on later recordings, as well as the prog elements they introduced. Great band. DOn't mind a bit of Malevolent Creation or Deicide either.

Devourment
10-07-2006, 10:05 AM
*List of bands*
Note: Swedish death is not the same as melodic death/gothenburg metal.Oooh. Quite a nice list you have there. There are quite a few from your list that I like, but I don't really have time to write them down.


Commonly made mistake. Opeth is progressive metal with harsh vocals, hardly any other death metal influence aside from that.


"Opeth is a progressive death metal band"

"Vocalist Mikael Åkerfeldt performs both clean singing and death vocals."
:p :D


Sub-genres? And of course we run into the typical "no need for categorization sheep/drone" :rolleyes2

There is a need to categorize metal into subgenres because each of them sounds entirely different from the others. That is why there is a need for it.That I agree with. I was going to rant about that at the start, but I couldn't be arsed to moan for a few paragraphs. Thank you. :D


I'm a big fan of Death. Chuck was friggin awesome, I particularly like his voice on later recordings, as well as the prog elements they introduced. Great band. DOn't mind a bit of Malevolent Creation or Deicide either.Heh. Me too. Though I like the latter Death moreso than the earlier Death. But I still love them on the whole, & Chuck was a great songwriter & had a good voice.

Nice to see there are a few underground music fans here. :D You know what is good for you. :D

DM isn't called underground in America most likely, well perhaps not Florida & so.

Crushed Hope
10-07-2006, 02:04 PM
Commonly made mistake. Opeth is progressive metal with harsh vocals, hardly any other death metal influence aside from that.


"Opeth is a progressive death metal band"

"Vocalist Mikael Åkerfeldt performs both clean singing and death vocals."
:p :D

Wikipedia knows <img src="/xxx.gif"><img src="/xxx.gif"><img src="/xxx.gif"><img src="/xxx.gif"> about metal. Vocals do not determine a genre, Opeth are progressive metal. Not prog. death, because the core of their music isn't death metal.

jrgen
10-07-2006, 11:59 PM
It is true that most of Opeth's material is not progressive death metal. However, they have material that is (parts of the Deliverance album being the most obvious), which is why I put them in my list. They are also occasionally death influences on some other albums aswell. You can claim that songs like Master's Apprentices and Wreath are not progressive death metal, I will just not agree with you and my disagreement won't be a mistake.

Xander
10-08-2006, 12:07 AM
I don't really know what "death metal" is *exactly* but it sounds scary.... xD I imagine it being quite heavy and maybe screamy/shouty although I don't really know. It seems to me like it would be angry music, and I don't often feel angry these days. But I'm just assuming, I've probably never really listened to any....

Faris
10-08-2006, 06:38 AM
Arch Enemy, Thine Eyes Bleed :heart:

Crushed Hope
10-08-2006, 02:01 PM
Arch Enemy, Thine Eyes Bleed :heart:

Neither are death metal.

jrgen
10-08-2006, 05:46 PM
I don't know Thine Eyes Bleed, but Arch Enemy are melodic death metal.

Crushed Hope
10-08-2006, 08:08 PM
I don't know Thine Eyes Bleed, but Arch Enemy are melodic death metal.

Melodeath more so, which is much more power metal than it is death metal.

Melodic death, such as Quo Vadis though is truely death metal.

jrgen
10-08-2006, 08:30 PM
Melodeath = melodic death. I have never seen any distinction between the two. Many of the modern melodic death bands have striven away from the genre, but if you listen to what the bands sounded like when genre formed, you'll hear that the main influence was death metal (perhaps some thrash here and there, but hardly any power metal).

Crushed Hope
10-08-2006, 08:49 PM
Melodeath = melodic death. I have never seen any distinction between the two. Many of the modern melodic death bands have striven away from the genre, but if you listen to what the bands sounded like when genre formed, you'll hear that the main influence was death metal (perhaps some thrash here and there, but hardly any power metal).

Melodeath SHOULD mean melodic death, but it doesn't. Melodeath refers to the Gothenburg sound, which is basically Iron Maiden melodies downtuned more, and with harsh vocals over it.

When I listen to Anata, I hear melodic death metal. I hear death metal with a great focus on melody. When I hear In Flames, I hear Iron Maiden with harsh vocals.

jrgen
10-08-2006, 10:14 PM
Most of the Gothenburg scene is indeed not particulary death metal, but there's still some material, like some At the Gates, which is more melodic death than power or thrash metal.

And I'm not sure I'd call Anata melodic death metal. Good band though, but their former drummer was being quite rude when I bought their second demo from him.

Crushed Hope
10-08-2006, 10:17 PM
Most of the Gothenburg scene is indeed not particulary death metal, but there's still some material, like some At the Gates, which is more melodic death than power or thrash metal.

And I'm not sure I'd call Anata melodic death metal. Good band though, but their former drummer was being quite rude when I bought their second demo from him.

Well yeah, At The Gates is indeed death metal. Fucking Slaughter of the Soul is horrible though D:

The Infernal Depths Of Hatred is pretty damned melodic, it focuses alot of the melodies anyways.

Twisted Tinkerbell
10-08-2006, 11:40 PM
I love arch enemy

Faris
10-09-2006, 02:37 AM
Arch Enemy, Thine Eyes Bleed :heart:

Neither are death metal.

Oh well, close enough.

Thine Eyes Bleed (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tGtWLi0fRQk) Wiki says Melodic Death Metal

abrojtm
10-09-2006, 03:02 AM
I don't really like the screaming and such, but I like the music.

Devourment
10-09-2006, 12:42 PM
Commonly made mistake. Opeth is progressive metal with harsh vocals, hardly any other death metal influence aside from that.


"Opeth is a progressive death metal band"

"Vocalist Mikael Åkerfeldt performs both clean singing and death vocals."
:p :D

Wikipedia knows <img src="/xxx.gif"><img src="/xxx.gif"><img src="/xxx.gif"><img src="/xxx.gif"> about metal. Vocals do not determine a genre, Opeth are progressive metal. Not prog. death, because the core of their music isn't death metal.No need for that. ;) I was just saying. Well, I'm not going to argue it over & over. You have your opinion & I have mine. *Sits on fence*


I don't really know what "death metal" is *exactly* but it sounds scary.... xD I imagine it being quite heavy and maybe screamy/shouty although I don't really know. It seems to me like it would be angry music, and I don't often feel angry these days. But I'm just assuming, I've probably never really listened to any....DM was created by Death. [Not Possessed.. Although they helped a bit]
It [was] formed / evolved from thrash metal & has influences from classical & jazz. The theme for DM is obviously suggested by the title of the genre. Most DM bands tend to sing about death, gore blah blah & this can put most people off the genre completly. But not all bands sing about that. The band Nile base their lyrics & music around Eygptian Mysticism & religion & such, & a band called Decapitated sing about very dark themes.

You could say DM is aggressive. Most of it includes fast tempos, & heavy riffs. It is most notabable for its technicallity - Different time signatures, key changes, tempo changes, structure & the like. Which would explain why some bands have jazz, classical influences. Also a lot of DM bands downtune their instruments. Quite alot of bands tune in baritone, whereas others tune 1 step down which enables fast playing. The drumming in DM will most usually include blast beats, & some bands have drummers who include jazz beats into their music [Death, Cryptopsy, & Immolation to name a few] The vocals are sung in a deep death grunt / growl. Which is more from the stomach than from the throat. Immolation & Nile's singers show a good example of a death grunt. A good example would be "Cookie Monster" style vocals. Imagine the cookie monster singing a song.. & there you have it. They are extremely low, but still the words that are said are hearable. DM is much heavier than heavy metal. A DM band would make Metallica sound like a rock band. Listen to Nile - Sacrifice Unto Sebek, & then Metallica & you'll notice the difference.

If you want to listen to some, listen to some late work by Death. A good reccomendation I'd say.

Rather than me write anymore inane babble, just have a look at wikipedia & you'll find a good description.

jrgen
10-09-2006, 04:02 PM
Death metal is a musical movement that was started by many bands from various locations that emerged around the same time in the mid-late 80s. It wasn't created by one single band, like Death. Death was one of the many transition bands between thrash and death metal.


EDIT: I just realized three essential classics are missing in my list. Corpse and Morbid who were among the first death metal bands ever, as well as Carbonized who made the earliest recordings I've heard that I would class as brutal death metal.

Devourment
10-09-2006, 04:57 PM
Aye. But Death more than most. Though certain thrash metal bands helped quite a bit.

EDIT: Corpse as Cannibal Corpse & Morbid as in Morbid Angel?

Yeah. Corpse's first demo was pretty early.

jrgen
10-09-2006, 06:28 PM
No, Morbid as in Morbid and Corpse as in Corpse.

Although Morbid Angel were really early too. Cannibal Corpse less so.

Novaris
10-09-2006, 09:42 PM
usually the case with death metal is I cannot pay attention and understand what is being sung. My question is "Are you even meant to listen to the lyrics if they're so fast alot of the time?" Strange yes, nonsense, 'fraid not. Once yar brains haf gone tuh scrambuld eggz git bak to meh. I end this post with a nice :) smilie!

jrgen
10-09-2006, 10:18 PM
"Are you even meant to listen to the lyrics if they're so fast alot of the time?"
My guess would be that your average DM listener doesn't pay that much attention to lyrics. A vocalist in death metal is essential, but I couldn't care less what he sings about (although that goes for all forms of music). I never understand why people dislike bands because they sing in a language or a manner that they cannot understand. If they want lyrics, they can go read a poem.

Crushed Hope
10-09-2006, 10:33 PM
DM was created by Death. [Not Possessed.. Although they helped a bit]


Possessed released Seven Churches while Death was still putting out thrash metal demos.