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Ethanol Dreams
10-07-2006, 08:15 PM
Sorry if this has been asked before, but who do you prefer, Dagger or Eiko? This is for abilities only, looks and personality and such don't really matter. :) I just made it to Terra and I have to choose between the two.
I was kinda addicted to Chocobo Hot & Cold, so Dagger has all her spells and Eiko only has a few more to get. Who do you prefer and why?

I Am Stoner
10-07-2006, 08:19 PM
Dagger I would say.

LunarWeaver
10-07-2006, 08:19 PM
At first, I thought Eiko was all that with her fancier white magic and fancy Holy and Haste. But really, when you can buy the summon gems and power up Garnet's summons, I ended up liking her much better. And I like her Trance a lot more as well. Overall, I prefer Garnet. Curaga is really the only white magic spell I give too much of a crap about. Though Esuna is certainly nice sometimes :eep:

boys from the dwarf
10-07-2006, 08:22 PM
garnet has more powerful summons but eiko has phoenix but you dont really need phoenix unless your doing some low level challenges and feel lucky.

so id say garnet is the better summoner.

eiko is the stronger white mage but they can both use curaga and my dagger heals nearly 3,000HP to everyone when she uses curaga and thats all i need. eiko has some higher and lower stats than garnet and they are both good characters but for storyline and battle i'd still say garnet.

f f freak
10-07-2006, 08:28 PM
I prefer Garnet. She is a better summoner and has a wider variety of summons. Eiko is the better white mage but only because of holy. I found Garnet to be better at Terra. However sometimes I use them both. If you pair them up they can be a powerful force.

Reles
10-07-2006, 08:48 PM
I've always prefered Eiko's summons and white magic over Garnet, she just seemed....stronger. In any case, I'm not saying that she was stronger because she was at a higher level, she was usually at a lower level and seemed to get the job done better. But this is just an opinion.

Sefie1999AD
10-07-2006, 08:58 PM
I prefer Dagger because I think she's a more interesting character with better character development. I also found her Eidolons more useful than the ones Eiko had. However, I think Eiko's White Magic is still better than Dagger's.

Ethanol Dreams
10-07-2006, 09:47 PM
I use Dagger more than Eiko when possible, it's just that Dagger can't get Dispel or Esuna, and Eiko can. I can't decide whether it's worth having things like Blind, Beserk etc. instead of some extra healing.

Saku
10-07-2006, 11:43 PM
Eiko.... cause Esuana is my friend. Mind you... Dagger was ok... as a summoner, but I like white mages

Rantz
10-07-2006, 11:45 PM
In my opinion, Dagger is a more all-round character. She can deal damage in all elements, as far as I can recall, while she still can heal good.

Eiko on the other hand is an exceptional healer and party supporter. While her summons are useful in certain situations, as Endless Twilight says, they are very limited in other.

If you go with Dagger in your party, my advice would be to include someone else with decent curative/supportive abilities as a backup healer, for example Amarant.

If you go with Eiko in your party, you should only need to be able to revive her in the case that she dies, and she should be able to handle the rest of the healing. Quina with Auto-life to cast on her could be a good complement.

As for the thread's original question, "Who is the best summoner?", I'd say Dagger. She is pretty clearly meant to be primarily a summoner and secondarily a healer, and the other way around for Eiko, as suggested by the order in their respective command lists, their Trance and the difference in amount of summons.

Xurts
10-08-2006, 02:41 AM
Eiko is much better than Dagger. Eiko doesn't rely on Eidolons because she has Holy, and that does as much damage as any Eidolon Dagger has. Dagger is nice in the beginning of the game, but once you have a chance to train Eiko she becomes much more useful.

You don't really need a white mage if you have Auto-Regen and Auto-Haste, though. That depends on your level. If it's around 70-80 then you shouldn't even need a main white mage, but instead just a secondary one like Quina.

eestlinc
10-08-2006, 02:44 AM
I like watching Ark, but otherwise I stick with Eiko usually.

DarkLadyNyara
10-08-2006, 03:03 AM
Dagger. As a fighter, I don't have a real preferance, but as a character, Eiko just annoys me.

My_car_is_faster_than_you
10-08-2006, 03:14 AM
I was on better terms with Eiko because when I got her, she was at a much higher level than Garnet. Garnet had a tendency to always die.

Kawaii Ryűkishi
10-08-2006, 03:53 AM
Neither. I use Quina.

Squall_Cannon
10-08-2006, 07:14 AM
I didn't like either character Amarant was where it was at. Or what about General Beatrix she tore up.

My name is...something..?
10-08-2006, 08:16 AM
I prefer Dagger over Eiko.
She got all the healing I needed done and she had better summons enough said.
Edit: Except for that whole part where she got all depressed and wouldn't listen half the time. :mad2:

(Though, nowadays when I play I use a gameshark code to put Beatrix in and totally neglect both of them.;))

Quindiana Jones
10-08-2006, 12:01 PM
In my opinion, Dagger is a more all-round character. She can deal damage in all elements, as far as I can recall, while she still can heal good.

Eiko on the other hand is an exceptional healer and party supporter. While her summons are useful in certain situations, as Endless Twilight says, they are very limited in other.

If you go with Dagger in your party, my advice would be to include someone else with decent curative/supportive abilities as a backup healer, for example Amarant.

If you go with Eiko in your party, you should only need to be able to revive her in the case that she dies, and she should be able to handle the rest of the healing. Quina with Auto-life to cast on her could be a good complement.

As for the thread's original question, "Who is the best summoner?", I'd say Dagger. She is pretty clearly meant to be primarily a summoner and secondarily a healer, and the other way around for Eiko, as suggested by the order in their respective command lists, their Trance and the difference in amount of summons.

You quote yourself? OMG how big-headed do you wanna get? :love:

I want Eiko to die.

f f freak
10-08-2006, 12:08 PM
I want Eiko to die.

Me too.

Rantz
10-08-2006, 12:12 PM
You quote yourself? OMG how big-headed do you wanna get? :love:
Hehe, I just did that to show that I still stick to the opinion I held in the last thread about this :)

Quindiana Jones
10-08-2006, 12:18 PM
I know, I just wanted you to notice me....:(

Rantz
10-08-2006, 12:25 PM
Oh, but writing in big pink text is quite enough...

LoKuS
10-08-2006, 06:53 PM
Eiko starts off with Auto-Regan....

Bolivar
10-08-2006, 10:07 PM
I like Dagger alot better because she seems to be the better healer, better selection of Eidolons, plus a White Mage needs Scan. Out in the field, it makes a difference.

and who needs Esuna if you have Remedy's?

Although a party w/ 2 white mages ain't bad.

yuno
10-09-2006, 09:23 AM
dagger ftw.i like the eidolon trance than the whitex2 trance.

Rocket Edge
10-09-2006, 02:29 PM
Most defionitely Dagger.

Saku
10-09-2006, 05:20 PM
I like Dagger alot better because she seems to be the better healer, better selection of Eidolons, plus a White Mage needs Scan. Out in the field, it makes a difference.

Scan?? What's that? *sarcasm*


and who needs Esuna if you have Remedy's?

Items... oh... yeah... I guess you could use those too. Ummm... I think I used item command like twice all game. FF7 with the infamous Yuffie incident remains the only time I use a whole lot of items...


Although a party w/ 2 white mages ain't bad.

This is true... very very true.

rubah
10-09-2006, 10:15 PM
Eiko is much more useful, but I can't stand her very much.

Crossblades
10-10-2006, 02:11 PM
Dagger has the best Summons, but Eiko has the best White Magic

Elemental Alchemist
10-11-2006, 02:41 AM
I will stand by my original choice which I stated in another thread.
I prefer Eiko, mainly because her white magic abilities surpass Garnet's and also because I'd rather have better white magic and decent summons instead of the other. I do not require so many summons. Eiko has enough of them, and the white magic skills more than make up to make her useful.

boys from the dwarf
10-11-2006, 07:40 PM
i believe garnet has higher HP and also, eiko may be the better white mage, but curaga with garnet cures enough. if it cures 3000 to all with garnet and 4000 to all with eiko, it still isn't really to important a difference because 3000 is a huge amount.

raknarock
10-20-2006, 07:26 AM
Dagger!!!!

10-Breaker
10-20-2006, 10:58 AM
Dagger. Shes stronger than Eiko and Dagger can summon BAHAMUT.:D