My lowest level possible challenge

[aquatius]

Currently I am doing a challenge to beat FF1 DoS with the lowest levels possible, I will upload videos of boss fights to my youtube account: http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=aquatius and will only level if it is completely necessary, also I am running from all escapable battles.

[Martyr]

Cool.

With F/F/T/RM, I beat the NES version at lv 7. (Apparently, some nutcase beat it at 6. But after lv 11, 9, and not 7, I doubt I'm going to be ablt to do it at 5, and I'm tired of trying. I'll take second place and be happy.)

But I'll be excited to see how you do. Beating games at low levels is one of my favorite things to do. ( I, unlike most RPG gamers, see absolutely NO need to max out levels and slide through an easy game. The harder the better, I say.)

[aquatius]

I hardly ever see people doing FF1 at low levels, it normally single character challenges and stuff like that, so that's why I did this.

[Black Mage FF1]

Cool.

With F/F/T/RM, I beat the NES version at lv 7. (Apparently, some nutcase beat it at 6. But after lv 11, 9, and not 7, I doubt I'm going to be ablt to do it at 5, and I'm tired of trying. I'll take second place and be happy.)

But I'll be excited to see how you do. Beating games at low levels is one of my favorite things to do. ( I, unlike most RPG gamers, see absolutely NO need to max out levels and slide through an easy game. The harder the better, I say.)


Level 7 eh? Ahahahaha. Sorry but you did not complete that unless you used cheats. Because the amount of experience points that the required bosses give you levels you up to level 10 at the end of the game. That is the lowest possible level for a 4 character team.

[Martyr]

Level 7 eh? Ahahahaha. Sorry but you did not complete that unless you used cheats. Because the amount of experience points that the required bosses give you levels you up to level 10 at the end of the game. That is the lowest possible level for a 4 character team.

Really? Then I've been lied to.

Truth is, I made it to the ToF at lv 11, but couldn't run from enough enemies so that by the time I hit Chaos I was actually at lv. 14.

Thank you for bursting that bubble, ratbag.

The other confession, then, is that I only did it once, and I haven't played Final Fantasy since. Should I go for lv. 10 now? I dunno.

[Zeromus_X]

How in god's name do you go through Final Fantasy with levels like those? 0_O;

[Martyr]

How in god's name do you go through Final Fantasy with levels like those? 0_O;


Thief can run from pretty much anything except for bosses, Wizards, ZombieDragons & Bulls etc.

So the basic idea is to run through the game, and restart dungeons when you hit foes you can't run from.

Having 2 fighters (who will become knights) is the real key. You don't have to level them in order to gain magic points, (or strength like with the bb), and they're best weapons and armors are free. In the end, a lv. 10 knight with Xcalibur is almost as nice as lv. 35. The hit points are lacking, but the ninja/thief is running from every fight anyway.

Other than that, RM can use fire2 in the beginning, when it's necesary. Etc..

Ultimately, the hardest thing to do is beat the marsh Cave at as low a level as possible. I think that my failure came when I leveled to 6 to beat the marsh cave. I doubt the masters of beating the game at low levels would have that kind of patience.

[Black Mage FF1]

Level 7 eh? Ahahahaha. Sorry but you did not complete that unless you used cheats. Because the amount of experience points that the required bosses give you levels you up to level 10 at the end of the game. That is the lowest possible level for a 4 character team.

Really? Then I've been lied to.

Truth is, I made it to the ToF at lv 11, but couldn't run from enough enemies so that by the time I hit Chaos I was actually at lv. 14.

Thank you for bursting that bubble, ratbag.

The other confession, then, is that I only did it once, and I haven't played Final Fantasy since. Should I go for lv. 10 now? I dunno.


oh oh name calling! um um your dumb! hahaha....... -_-


Seriously, know your info before you try to lie.

[aquatius]

Well, on DoS he marsh cave is easier, I beat it at level 4, but the piscodemons were hella hard.

[Zeromus_X]

oh oh name calling! um um your dumb! hahaha....... -_-


Seriously, know your info before you try to lie.

You can also just not reply so that this stops.

[Black Mage FF1]

oh oh name calling! um um your dumb! hahaha....... -_-


Seriously, know your info before you try to lie.

You can also just not reply so that this stops.

Nah.

I like it how you point me out of the two of us. All I did was point out a lie. But whatever.:blahblah:

[Zeromus_X]

If it were him instead of you, I would have warned him as well. Maybe I should have been more specific. Regardless, the childish pointless bickering stops now.

Obligatory on-topic: Those are some nice videos, gyrus! And thanks for the info Thieforever, but I don't think I'll plan a FF1 challenge like that anytime soon...:cat:

[Znake]

I tried this challenge myself a few weeks ago. It was fun during the boss fight's, but a little tedious while getting there.

If your playing the GBA version, you should have no problem successfully fleeing from battle, even without a Thief. The hardest part of it is without doubt the fight's with Lich, especially the second one (you'll only get through this if he dosen't use Flare, otherwise you've got no chance). The second battle with Kraken can be quite difficult too. On the battles you can't avoid there's only two that I can remember, Vampire and Evil Eye. You can also pick up most of the treasure in the game, just open the chests from the side or behind to avoid the battles.

Are you doing this challenge by keeping all the party alive after battle, or just whoever's left?
Keeping them all alive will definitly add to the challenge.

Good luck with it. ;)

[Kirr]

Wow you are one crazy guy. I can hardly beat it at all.(mabye its cause i suck, i dunno) good luck with that

[Nerevarine]

did you give up on this cuz i thought it would be cool to see some more vids

[aquatius]

I had to wipe my computer and I lost my progress. Soorry.

[Omega weapon123]

never thought about doing this, I'll try this, im always up for a challenge

[canercoop]

With 4 characters, level 9 is the lowest possible level to beat FF1 at. I know because I have done it. My only "cheat" was that I used a save state right before starting the battle with Chaos because it ended up taking me 25 fights to beat Chaos at such a paltry level.

The only experience you absolutely HAVE to get is by fighting the bosses and if you do the math you will find that that only gets you to level 9. However, without EXTREMELY careful planning you will meet enemies you can't run from and killing them will level you up to level 10 as Black Mage mentioned.

There is a method to avoiding these enemies. Final Fantasy picks a "random" number 1 through 8 every time you meet an enemy and it matches that number with a table that depends on which section of the overworld or dungeon floor you are in to determine EXACTLY what type of enemy you will meet. The trick is , these encounter numbers aren't actually random... there is a known sequence of 256 of these numbers that repeats over and over as you play the game. I came upon this 256-number sequence in a walkthrough and using it (and a lot of trying different routes through dungeons) was able to plan out a way to walk through the entire game such that I would never have to fight any battles that I couldn't run from. Very difficult, but possible. It took a lot of work but, considering this is my favorite video game of all time, it was well worth the effort.

If any of you would like to attempt it, I will happily provide further advice. YouTube didn't exist when I completed this challenge, but now that it does maybe I will make a video showing my characters beating Chaos at level 9.

[aquatius]

So is it like the Random Number Generator from Golden Sun?

[canercoop]

I'm not familiar with Golden sun... I'm pretty old school when it comes to video games.

For FF1, I have attached the information I used to figure out my strategy for winning at level 9. The .txt file has EVERYTHING about how the game works and the .doc file is my pared down version of what you really need for this challenge.

Good luck!