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I Am Stoner
10-23-2006, 11:39 PM
I know who gets my vote instantly.

Lamb Of God.

But beer is better. ;)

Crushed Hope
10-23-2006, 11:46 PM
Lamb of God is better, but both are absolutely HORRIBLE.

MecaKane
10-23-2006, 11:48 PM
No. Fucking. Contest.

A bunch of guys in masks banging on their instruments or the new gods of metal? Come on!

escobert
10-24-2006, 12:11 AM
Beer is better than all of them!!! BEER!!!

Crushed Hope
10-24-2006, 12:27 AM
No. smurfing. Contest.

A bunch of guys in masks banging on their instruments or the new gods of metal? Come on!

Haha, you have GOT to be kidding me.

NorthernChaosGod
10-24-2006, 12:30 AM
Slipknot is a <img src="/xxx.gif"><img src="/xxx.gif"><img src="/xxx.gif"><img src="/xxx.gif">ty excuse for a band.

Lamb of God rocks.

o_O
10-24-2006, 12:43 AM
Lamb of God is better, but both are absolutely HORRIBLE.

Yeah, I'm with you on this one. :p

Lamb of God is better.

Roto13
10-24-2006, 12:59 AM
Lamb of God Gouging my eardrums with a needle is better, but both are absolutely HORRIBLE.

Mythra
10-24-2006, 01:57 AM
How anyone can go from crazy masks to "Looking at you through the glass" (see lead singer of Slipknot/Stonesour) is waaaaaaaaaay beyond me. So yeah my vote is definetly for Lamb of God who I think are a hell of a lot better than Slipknot.

Black Mage FF1
10-24-2006, 03:32 AM
LOG is an ok band. Slipknot just plain sucks.

And I don't know anyone who considers these two to be the new gods of metal. That thought makes me laugh.

Avarice-ness
10-24-2006, 03:43 AM
These two are in two different ball parks.

One plays T-ball.

The other plays semi-professional baseball.

*likes Lamb of God*

GooeyToast
10-24-2006, 03:48 AM
They're both pretty horrible.

Khaotic
10-24-2006, 04:11 AM
Too many biased opinions here. Music isn't based solely off a guy screaming into a microphone. If their music is so horrible, why don't you pick up a guitar and play like the guitarist? or how about grab some sticks and start hitting a drum like their drummer? This goes for both bands, and they're both good in their own ways. This isn't "do you like rock or do you like britney spears" its Lamb of God Vs Slipknot. I'd say, if you don't like either, don't post. That one post count won't kill you.


As for the topic, I'd go with old school slipknot, although I haven't listened to much metal lately, but I do think LoG is more skilled.

Black Mage FF1
10-24-2006, 04:18 AM
Too many biased opinions here. Music isn't based solely off a guy screaming into a microphone. If their music is so horrible, why don't you pick up a guitar and play like the guitarist? or how about grab some sticks and start hitting a drum like their drummer? This goes for both bands, and they're both good in their own ways. This isn't "do you like rock or do you like britney spears" its Lamb of God Vs Slipknot. I'd say, if you don't like either, don't post. That one post count won't kill you.


As for the topic, I'd go with old school slipknot, although I haven't listened to much metal lately, but I do think LoG is more skilled.


So your telling me that you never heard a song before and thought to yourself "Wow, this is really bad"? Bull.

It doesn't matter if I can play their music or not. Why would I listen to this crap when I can listen to much better bands (and I like screaming bands).

And I never said they were talentless. I just don't like how they sound. There are many other screaming or metal bands that do what they do but 100X better.

Khaotic
10-24-2006, 04:25 AM
Too many biased opinions here. Music isn't based solely off a guy screaming into a microphone. If their music is so horrible, why don't you pick up a guitar and play like the guitarist? or how about grab some sticks and start hitting a drum like their drummer? This goes for both bands, and they're both good in their own ways. This isn't "do you like rock or do you like britney spears" its Lamb of God Vs Slipknot. I'd say, if you don't like either, don't post. That one post count won't kill you.


As for the topic, I'd go with old school slipknot, although I haven't listened to much metal lately, but I do think LoG is more skilled.


So your telling me that you never heard a song before and thought to yourself "Wow, this is really bad"? Bull.

It doesn't matter if I can play their music or not. Why would I listen to this crap when I can listen to much better bands (and I like screaming bands).

And I never said they were talentless. I just don't like how they sound. There are many other screaming or metal bands that do what they do but 100X better.
You missed my point bud. Most of you are like "Slipknot sucks and LoG sucks." and yet they're actually quite skilled musicians. I wasn't referring to you liking them or not, that itself would be biased, which I claimed most of the people in this thread to be, so why would I do it myself.

You can't possibly say a band is complete trash when they're skilled, if anything, you simply don't like their music, but saying they completely suck is just over the edge, and quite immature, or as I put it before, biased.

To YOU there is better bands, yet to others, the better bands are LOG or slipknot, or both, but you can't force your opinion on them.

Samuraid
10-24-2006, 07:31 AM
While I'm not a fan of the genre, Lamb of God definitely wins the contest.

fantasyjunkie
10-24-2006, 08:41 AM
How can you possibly compare anything up against BEER???? :whoa: :irked: :nonono: :screwy:

The Devil Man
10-24-2006, 08:51 AM
Heretic Anthem, Before I Forget, Disasterpiece, Iowa...

Just on those 4 tracks alone I think SlipKnot is a helluva lot better then Lamb of God.

Most people these days hate SlipKnot because it is 'cool' to hate SlipKnot when just 5 or 6 years ago the vast majority of people loved 'em.

And why do so many people make a big deal of them wearing masks anyway? They weren't the first band to do it and for their live shows the masks work brilliantly. They are just awesome live.

NorthernChaosGod
10-24-2006, 08:54 AM
Too many biased opinions here. Music isn't based solely off a guy screaming into a microphone. If their music is so horrible, why don't you pick up a guitar and play like the guitarist? or how about grab some sticks and start hitting a drum like their drummer? This goes for both bands, and they're both good in their own ways. This isn't "do you like rock or do you like britney spears" its Lamb of God Vs Slipknot. I'd say, if you don't like either, don't post. That one post count won't kill you.

Well, judging from all of the music I've heard from Slipknot, and it is a lot, I can play guitar, bass, and drums better. Sure, they may be talented musicians in their own right, but their music definitely doesn't reflect it.

Does my opinion count now?


Heretic Anthem, Before I Forget, Disasterpiece, Iowa...

Just on those 4 tracks alone I think SlipKnot is a helluva lot better then Lamb of God.

Most people these days hate SlipKnot because it is 'cool' to hate SlipKnot when just 5 or 6 years ago the vast majority of people loved 'em.

And why do so many people make a big deal of them wearing masks anyway? They weren't the first band to do it and for their live shows the masks work brilliantly. They are just awesome live.

WTF? Why doesn't this post look anything like your other posts?

The Devil Man
10-24-2006, 09:00 AM
Heretic Anthem, Before I Forget, Disasterpiece, Iowa...

Just on those 4 tracks alone I think SlipKnot is a helluva lot better then Lamb of God.

Most people these days hate SlipKnot because it is 'cool' to hate SlipKnot when just 5 or 6 years ago the vast majority of people loved 'em.

And why do so many people make a big deal of them wearing masks anyway? They weren't the first band to do it and for their live shows the masks work brilliantly. They are just awesome live.

WTF? Why doesn't this post look anything like your other posts?

You know...

I am looking at it myself...

And I have no idea! :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused:

RiseToFall
10-24-2006, 09:14 AM
Heretic Anthem, Before I Forget, Disasterpiece, Iowa...

Just on those 4 tracks alone I think SlipKnot is a helluva lot better then Lamb of God.

Most people these days hate SlipKnot because it is 'cool' to hate SlipKnot when just 5 or 6 years ago the vast majority of people loved 'em.

And why do so many people make a big deal of them wearing masks anyway? They weren't the first band to do it and for their live shows the masks work brilliantly. They are just awesome live.

WTF? Why doesn't this post look anything like your other posts?

Just be happy that it's a straight up answer with no 3rd person speaking. Oh and for one of the first times ever, I agree with Devil Man.

NorthernChaosGod
10-24-2006, 09:38 AM
I actually like his posts with him talking in 3rd person. :(

Venom
10-24-2006, 12:06 PM
Neither, both of them give me huge fucking headaches.

I Am Stoner
10-24-2006, 12:11 PM
Neither, both of them give me huge smurfing headaches.

Beer does that to me too, but I love it.:p

Crushed Hope
10-24-2006, 08:22 PM
Too many biased opinions here. Music isn't based solely off a guy screaming into a microphone. If their music is so horrible, why don't you pick up a guitar and play like the guitarist? or how about grab some sticks and start hitting a drum like their drummer? This goes for both bands, and they're both good in their own ways. This isn't "do you like rock or do you like britney spears" its Lamb of God Vs Slipknot. I'd say, if you don't like either, don't post. That one post count won't kill you.


As for the topic, I'd go with old school slipknot, although I haven't listened to much metal lately, but I do think LoG is more skilled.


So your telling me that you never heard a song before and thought to yourself "Wow, this is really bad"? Bull.

It doesn't matter if I can play their music or not. Why would I listen to this crap when I can listen to much better bands (and I like screaming bands).

And I never said they were talentless. I just don't like how they sound. There are many other screaming or metal bands that do what they do but 100X better.
You missed my point bud. Most of you are like "Slipknot sucks and LoG sucks." and yet they're actually quite skilled musicians. I wasn't referring to you liking them or not, that itself would be biased, which I claimed most of the people in this thread to be, so why would I do it myself.

You can't possibly say a band is complete trash when they're skilled, if anything, you simply don't like their music, but saying they completely suck is just over the edge, and quite immature, or as I put it before, biased.

To YOU there is better bands, yet to others, the better bands are LOG or slipknot, or both, but you can't force your opinion on them.

Anyone who thinks Slipknot and Lamb of God are good bands needs new musical taste.

Khaotic
10-24-2006, 08:32 PM
Too many biased opinions here. Music isn't based solely off a guy screaming into a microphone. If their music is so horrible, why don't you pick up a guitar and play like the guitarist? or how about grab some sticks and start hitting a drum like their drummer? This goes for both bands, and they're both good in their own ways. This isn't "do you like rock or do you like britney spears" its Lamb of God Vs Slipknot. I'd say, if you don't like either, don't post. That one post count won't kill you.


As for the topic, I'd go with old school slipknot, although I haven't listened to much metal lately, but I do think LoG is more skilled.


So your telling me that you never heard a song before and thought to yourself "Wow, this is really bad"? Bull.

It doesn't matter if I can play their music or not. Why would I listen to this crap when I can listen to much better bands (and I like screaming bands).

And I never said they were talentless. I just don't like how they sound. There are many other screaming or metal bands that do what they do but 100X better.
You missed my point bud. Most of you are like "Slipknot sucks and LoG sucks." and yet they're actually quite skilled musicians. I wasn't referring to you liking them or not, that itself would be biased, which I claimed most of the people in this thread to be, so why would I do it myself.

You can't possibly say a band is complete trash when they're skilled, if anything, you simply don't like their music, but saying they completely suck is just over the edge, and quite immature, or as I put it before, biased.

To YOU there is better bands, yet to others, the better bands are LOG or slipknot, or both, but you can't force your opinion on them.

Anyone who thinks Slipknot and Lamb of God are good bands needs new musical taste.

Thats like saying whoever likes RPG's needs a new gaming genre taste from a FPS type player. Just because you don't like it, doesn't give you the right to tell others they're wrong, or they "need a new taste". Simply don't listen to it, and move on.

Crushed Hope
10-25-2006, 12:29 AM
Too many biased opinions here. Music isn't based solely off a guy screaming into a microphone. If their music is so horrible, why don't you pick up a guitar and play like the guitarist? or how about grab some sticks and start hitting a drum like their drummer? This goes for both bands, and they're both good in their own ways. This isn't "do you like rock or do you like britney spears" its Lamb of God Vs Slipknot. I'd say, if you don't like either, don't post. That one post count won't kill you.


As for the topic, I'd go with old school slipknot, although I haven't listened to much metal lately, but I do think LoG is more skilled.


So your telling me that you never heard a song before and thought to yourself "Wow, this is really bad"? Bull.

It doesn't matter if I can play their music or not. Why would I listen to this crap when I can listen to much better bands (and I like screaming bands).

And I never said they were talentless. I just don't like how they sound. There are many other screaming or metal bands that do what they do but 100X better.
You missed my point bud. Most of you are like "Slipknot sucks and LoG sucks." and yet they're actually quite skilled musicians. I wasn't referring to you liking them or not, that itself would be biased, which I claimed most of the people in this thread to be, so why would I do it myself.

You can't possibly say a band is complete trash when they're skilled, if anything, you simply don't like their music, but saying they completely suck is just over the edge, and quite immature, or as I put it before, biased.

To YOU there is better bands, yet to others, the better bands are LOG or slipknot, or both, but you can't force your opinion on them.

Anyone who thinks Slipknot and Lamb of God are good bands needs new musical taste.

Thats like saying whoever likes RPG's needs a new gaming genre taste from a FPS type player. Just because you don't like it, doesn't give you the right to tell others they're wrong, or they "need a new taste". Simply don't listen to it, and move on.

Or perhaps, I can try and help people listen to better music? Music DOES have the ability to be objectively judged ya know.

Paro
10-25-2006, 01:09 AM
Too many biased opinions here. Music isn't based solely off a guy screaming into a microphone. If their music is so horrible, why don't you pick up a guitar and play like the guitarist? or how about grab some sticks and start hitting a drum like their drummer? This goes for both bands, and they're both good in their own ways. This isn't "do you like rock or do you like britney spears" its Lamb of God Vs Slipknot. I'd say, if you don't like either, don't post. That one post count won't kill you.


As for the topic, I'd go with old school slipknot, although I haven't listened to much metal lately, but I do think LoG is more skilled.


So your telling me that you never heard a song before and thought to yourself "Wow, this is really bad"? Bull.

It doesn't matter if I can play their music or not. Why would I listen to this crap when I can listen to much better bands (and I like screaming bands).

And I never said they were talentless. I just don't like how they sound. There are many other screaming or metal bands that do what they do but 100X better.
You missed my point bud. Most of you are like "Slipknot sucks and LoG sucks." and yet they're actually quite skilled musicians. I wasn't referring to you liking them or not, that itself would be biased, which I claimed most of the people in this thread to be, so why would I do it myself.

You can't possibly say a band is complete trash when they're skilled, if anything, you simply don't like their music, but saying they completely suck is just over the edge, and quite immature, or as I put it before, biased.

To YOU there is better bands, yet to others, the better bands are LOG or slipknot, or both, but you can't force your opinion on them.

Anyone who thinks Slipknot and Lamb of God are good bands needs new musical taste.

Thats like saying whoever likes RPG's needs a new gaming genre taste from a FPS type player. Just because you don't like it, doesn't give you the right to tell others they're wrong, or they "need a new taste". Simply don't listen to it, and move on.

Or perhaps, I can try and help people listen to better music? Music DOES have the ability to be objectively judged ya know.

No one asked you.

I like both bands and i know you don't like that.

crushed taste.

Crushed Hope
10-25-2006, 01:16 AM
Too many biased opinions here. Music isn't based solely off a guy screaming into a microphone. If their music is so horrible, why don't you pick up a guitar and play like the guitarist? or how about grab some sticks and start hitting a drum like their drummer? This goes for both bands, and they're both good in their own ways. This isn't "do you like rock or do you like britney spears" its Lamb of God Vs Slipknot. I'd say, if you don't like either, don't post. That one post count won't kill you.


As for the topic, I'd go with old school slipknot, although I haven't listened to much metal lately, but I do think LoG is more skilled.


So your telling me that you never heard a song before and thought to yourself "Wow, this is really bad"? Bull.

It doesn't matter if I can play their music or not. Why would I listen to this crap when I can listen to much better bands (and I like screaming bands).

And I never said they were talentless. I just don't like how they sound. There are many other screaming or metal bands that do what they do but 100X better.
You missed my point bud. Most of you are like "Slipknot sucks and LoG sucks." and yet they're actually quite skilled musicians. I wasn't referring to you liking them or not, that itself would be biased, which I claimed most of the people in this thread to be, so why would I do it myself.

You can't possibly say a band is complete trash when they're skilled, if anything, you simply don't like their music, but saying they completely suck is just over the edge, and quite immature, or as I put it before, biased.

To YOU there is better bands, yet to others, the better bands are LOG or slipknot, or both, but you can't force your opinion on them.

Anyone who thinks Slipknot and Lamb of God are good bands needs new musical taste.

Thats like saying whoever likes RPG's needs a new gaming genre taste from a FPS type player. Just because you don't like it, doesn't give you the right to tell others they're wrong, or they "need a new taste". Simply don't listen to it, and move on.

Or perhaps, I can try and help people listen to better music? Music DOES have the ability to be objectively judged ya know.

No one asked you.

I like both bands and i know you don't like that.

crushed taste.

What bothers me about people liking these bands is that they are not even forming their own tastes truely. They are taking what the media feeds them and saying "This <img src="/xxx.gif"><img src="/xxx.gif"><img src="/xxx.gif"><img src="/xxx.gif"> rules, best music ever" when they could easily scratch away some dust from the surface and see the sparkles of bands such as Bolt Thrower and Overcast.

The problem is, not with the person liking the band, but the fact that they listen to the band because they don't know anything else and because that is what is popular and therefore easy to listen to.

Music is an artform that demands respect, and simply letting the money hungry radio and music television networks feed you what they want you to hear is a gross disrespect to the artform that music is.

Bloodline666
10-25-2006, 01:46 AM
Here's a little hint as to who I voted for:


Whoever appeals to the law against his fellow man is either a fool or a coward. Whoever cannot take care of himself without that law is both. For a wounded man shall say to his assailant; "If I live, I will kill you. If I die, you are forgiven." Such is the rule of HONOR.

RiseToFall
10-25-2006, 02:26 AM
Too many biased opinions here. Music isn't based solely off a guy screaming into a microphone. If their music is so horrible, why don't you pick up a guitar and play like the guitarist? or how about grab some sticks and start hitting a drum like their drummer? This goes for both bands, and they're both good in their own ways. This isn't "do you like rock or do you like britney spears" its Lamb of God Vs Slipknot. I'd say, if you don't like either, don't post. That one post count won't kill you.


As for the topic, I'd go with old school slipknot, although I haven't listened to much metal lately, but I do think LoG is more skilled.


So your telling me that you never heard a song before and thought to yourself "Wow, this is really bad"? Bull.

It doesn't matter if I can play their music or not. Why would I listen to this crap when I can listen to much better bands (and I like screaming bands).

And I never said they were talentless. I just don't like how they sound. There are many other screaming or metal bands that do what they do but 100X better.
You missed my point bud. Most of you are like "Slipknot sucks and LoG sucks." and yet they're actually quite skilled musicians. I wasn't referring to you liking them or not, that itself would be biased, which I claimed most of the people in this thread to be, so why would I do it myself.

You can't possibly say a band is complete trash when they're skilled, if anything, you simply don't like their music, but saying they completely suck is just over the edge, and quite immature, or as I put it before, biased.

To YOU there is better bands, yet to others, the better bands are LOG or slipknot, or both, but you can't force your opinion on them.

Anyone who thinks Slipknot and Lamb of God are good bands needs new musical taste.

Thats like saying whoever likes RPG's needs a new gaming genre taste from a FPS type player. Just because you don't like it, doesn't give you the right to tell others they're wrong, or they "need a new taste". Simply don't listen to it, and move on.

Or perhaps, I can try and help people listen to better music? Music DOES have the ability to be objectively judged ya know.

No one asked you.

I like both bands and i know you don't like that.

crushed taste.

What bothers me about people liking these bands is that they are not even forming their own tastes truely. They are taking what the media feeds them and saying "This http://forums.eyesonff.com/xxx.gifhttp://forums.eyesonff.com/xxx.gifhttp://forums.eyesonff.com/xxx.gifhttp://forums.eyesonff.com/xxx.gif rules, best music ever" when they could easily scratch away some dust from the surface and see the sparkles of bands such as Bolt Thrower and Overcast.

The problem is, not with the person liking the band, but the fact that they listen to the band because they don't know anything else and because that is what is popular and therefore easy to listen to.

Music is an artform that demands respect, and simply letting the money hungry radio and music television networks feed you what they want you to hear is a gross disrespect to the artform that music is.

You know what they say "opinions are like assholes, everyone's got one and they all stink."

Paro
10-25-2006, 02:31 AM
Too many biased opinions here. Music isn't based solely off a guy screaming into a microphone. If their music is so horrible, why don't you pick up a guitar and play like the guitarist? or how about grab some sticks and start hitting a drum like their drummer? This goes for both bands, and they're both good in their own ways. This isn't "do you like rock or do you like britney spears" its Lamb of God Vs Slipknot. I'd say, if you don't like either, don't post. That one post count won't kill you.


As for the topic, I'd go with old school slipknot, although I haven't listened to much metal lately, but I do think LoG is more skilled.


So your telling me that you never heard a song before and thought to yourself "Wow, this is really bad"? Bull.

It doesn't matter if I can play their music or not. Why would I listen to this crap when I can listen to much better bands (and I like screaming bands).

And I never said they were talentless. I just don't like how they sound. There are many other screaming or metal bands that do what they do but 100X better.
You missed my point bud. Most of you are like "Slipknot sucks and LoG sucks." and yet they're actually quite skilled musicians. I wasn't referring to you liking them or not, that itself would be biased, which I claimed most of the people in this thread to be, so why would I do it myself.

You can't possibly say a band is complete trash when they're skilled, if anything, you simply don't like their music, but saying they completely suck is just over the edge, and quite immature, or as I put it before, biased.

To YOU there is better bands, yet to others, the better bands are LOG or slipknot, or both, but you can't force your opinion on them.

Anyone who thinks Slipknot and Lamb of God are good bands needs new musical taste.

Thats like saying whoever likes RPG's needs a new gaming genre taste from a FPS type player. Just because you don't like it, doesn't give you the right to tell others they're wrong, or they "need a new taste". Simply don't listen to it, and move on.

Or perhaps, I can try and help people listen to better music? Music DOES have the ability to be objectively judged ya know.

No one asked you.

I like both bands and i know you don't like that.

crushed taste.

What bothers me about people liking these bands is that they are not even forming their own tastes truely. They are taking what the media feeds them and saying "This http://forums.eyesonff.com/xxx.gifhttp://forums.eyesonff.com/xxx.gifhttp://forums.eyesonff.com/xxx.gifhttp://forums.eyesonff.com/xxx.gif rules, best music ever" when they could easily scratch away some dust from the surface and see the sparkles of bands such as Bolt Thrower and Overcast.

The problem is, not with the person liking the band, but the fact that they listen to the band because they don't know anything else and because that is what is popular and therefore easy to listen to.

Music is an artform that demands respect, and simply letting the money hungry radio and music television networks feed you what they want you to hear is a gross disrespect to the artform that music is.

Nice mission statement, too bad you like crappy bands.

fire_of_avalon
10-25-2006, 05:00 AM
How anyone can go from crazy masks to "Looking at you through the glass" (see lead singer of Slipknot/Stonesour) is waaaaaaaaaay beyond me. So yeah my vote is definetly for Lamb of God who I think are a hell of a lot better than Slipknot.

Actually, Corey Taylor was with Stone Sour before Slipknot was created, at least that is what I've been led to believe by the band bio's I've read.

Slipknot's lyrics are much more poetic in certain songs and Corey Taylor's vocals are really hard to beat for a metal band.

I do believe the technical skill in instrumentation by Lamb of God exceeds Slipknot's. The vocals aren't there, and neither is the lyrical content.

And really, they styles are pretty different. Slipknot is more concerned with interlacing repetitive rifts over melodic backgrounds. Lamb of God just want to rock your face off.

Involving Stone Sour in the conversation would lead to an entirely new element, as they are the better of all three bands, concerning lyrical content, technical skill and vocalization. But all of the bands rock pretty hard.

And Crushed Hope, just because something is delivered to you from an artist who is signed to a major label doesn't mean the quality of that music is any worse. If you want to be honest about it, it is the ultimate goal of all musicians to "sell out" to a major label, make tons of money doing what they love, and achieve world-wide noteriety for it. Your absolutely right to have your own taste in the artforms you take in, but art being what it is makes it difficult and somewhat insulting to judge another's taste based strictly on what you perceive to be good. I only say this because I used to think similarly, and I realize what a meanie butt I was being. However, you're entitled to your opinion. I'd just ask that y'all cut down the quote pyramids a bit, please? You're stretching the tables.

Crushed Hope
10-25-2006, 07:53 PM
Nice mission statement, too bad you like crappy bands.

Too bad you don't know even 1/10 of what I listen to.

fantasyjunkie
10-27-2006, 05:44 AM
I'm the only one so far that has posted in this thread that chose the beer. :( :mad2: :eek: :confused: :cry: :weep: :crying: :frust: :rolleyes3 :sad: