Final Fantasy XII: Finally Released - Your Opinions

[RiseToFall]

For all of you lucky gamers who picked this baby up, what do you think of it? How does it compare to previous instalmets? Battle system to your liking?

Pretty much anything that you want to say about the game, do so. But please put up SPOILERS, not everyone is in the exact place in terms of plot and gameplay.

[Shadow8017]

picked it up at a midnight release and ive been playing it ever since (bout 2 hours worth of gameplay)and I'm just freaking amazed, everything from the battle mechanics to the overrall presentation of the game is simply stunning thus far and the visuals of course jaw-dropping. Really seems square enix has outdone themselves with this one.

I'll post more later, too busy playing lol.

[Dell]

FFX is nothing compared to this.

[Azure Chrysanthemum]

I loved the intro scenes and am looking forward to playing more. I'm maybe an hour or two in, and won't be able to clock a large amount of hours continuously due to class schedules, but the promise of political intrigue and other such fun stuff makes me happy. I'm tired of saving the freakin' world, I love these nations-in-conflict games.

[Rye]

I'm really excited now to play this from these replies. I'm impressed with the boxing and art of the Collector's Edition, which I picked up, and is current on my leg waiting to be played. Which I shall do now. :)

[Fate Fatale]

My mum picked it up for me this morning, but I've had school, and I'm not going to her house on saturday, so I can't play 'till then... :( I'm sad...

[Kirobaito]

I've played about an hour and a half, and it seems pretty good so far. Not great, yet, but I'm hopeful. I'm not that much of a fan of the battle system, mainly because it involves so much sitting around, but maybe that will change once I get more Magicks and Technicks.

[LoCoAndy2K3]

WOW! The story REALLY starts picking up 4-5 hours in. This game is AMAZING!!!

[Rye]

I've played about an hour and a half, and it seems pretty good so far. Not great, yet, but I'm hopeful. I'm not that much of a fan of the battle system, mainly because it involves so much sitting around, but maybe that will change once I get more Magicks and Technicks.

Same here, but a little less time. It seems fun so far, nothing amazing yet but I just started. But yes, the battle system kind of bugs me. Maybe I'm just an impatient Noo Yoikah type, but you select the target, then you go up to them and you have to just wait. D:

Anyways, back to play more~

[Jowy]

The battle system's no VP:Silmeria, but it's a nice change of pace.

And the rogue tomato was cute~

[Roto13]

I'm an hour in. One thing I've noticed is that I don't hate the battle system, though I hated it in the demo a year ago.

[CloudedSquall]

Surely one had to wait in all the other FF games during the battle system? I don't understand. Aren't you given the chance to control your characters even if they had gambit applied?

[Sephex]

I picked it up this morning. I on vaction this week from work so I should be able to devote some good time to this game. So far so good. I have been playing for about three-four hours. I spend most of those just messing around and doing some monster hunt thingys. I stopped because I am at my parents house right now and my dad wanted me to carve at least one pumpkin. I have to watch the house later tonight, so I'll probably play untill my girlfriend swings by. As someone pointed out earlier, yeah, this blows away FFX already, and no, I am not one of those people that dissed on FFX because it was new. I am glad that the battle system is the way it is. It's nice to finally see a real change in the FF series.

Overall, this is shaping up to be an enjoyable Final Fantasy.

[Croyles]

If your more interested in the story than the gameplay, you'll have to be a little patient. But it pays off, id say.

[Russielloyd]

The story does take a while to get into but it does get going and it really good. Espers and Quickenings are really good to watch, a total "wow" factor.

Everyone is going on about the gambit system. I can get a screenie of mine with Penelo if anyone wants, just as a example to follow or whatever.

[Zeromus_X]

The anxiety is tearing me up inside. :(

[Rye]

This is pretty fun, I'm rather enjoying it now. It reminds me a bit of Kingdom Hearts 2, how it launches you right into gameplay and kind of saves the story a bit for later, it seems. I enjoy the battle system a lot more too now. :)

Gambits do confuse me, but I didn't really try to figure them out yet. xD

[The Summoner of Leviathan]

I am not too far in, I died twice though. I just hate how the monsters beserk towards the end of their lives (reason why I died). The gameplay so far feels kinda slow, I hope as I get deeper into the plot it will go by faster.

[Shadow8017]

one complaint though so far -

VAAN'S VOICE - he sounds so prepubescent and annoying.

[Cruise Control]

Oh god, I almost forgot, so many people like to bitch over VA.

I appreciate the little details. Like the Soundtrack. The menu is FF4's Prologue, there's lots of songs based of FFTA (Rabanastre's theme is the shop theme from FFTA). And the programmers made an NCP that tells you how many flagstones are in an area.

[chionos]

Good stuff so far. The feel, for me, is FFT+FFXI, and I love it. I just regret that work+school is going to make it so hard to get any play time in, but I'll cherish it all the more I suppose. If there are as many side-quests(NM's and fetch quests) as it feels like there will be, I'll be a happy happy man.

[RiseToFall]

one complaint though so far -

VAAN'S VOICE - he sounds so prepubescent and annoying.

As in worse than Tidus?

[Ichimonji]

This game is massive. It's actually a little overwhelming. I must have clocked in around seven hours of gameplay before Penelo joined my team, because they give you so much to explore and so much to do at the beginning of the game. I was out levelling, and doing those quests, and exploring new areas and residences. There's a lot to see.

I'm a little over ten hours into it now. I've done three clan quests, I'm around level eight or nine, and I've bought better weapons from Nalbina. In terms of storyline, I've just got thrown into prison, and then I saved it.

Excellent game.

[Cid]

Having never played the demo, I'd say that the fighting is a little awkward and the camera control is aweful.

However, it is gorgeous and already better than FFX.

[Tyrel1985]

pretty awesome so far id say:Dit reminds me alot of final fantast two now except it has the graphics to support the storyline now.it should prove to be a wicked game.



oh and damn nazzi mods why you closed my other thread?:tongue:i didnt see this one here...cant there be two?:mad:

[Necronopticous]

Having to put down the controller for the night kills me.

[Rostum]

OMFG, I want this. I should have just modded my PS2, and imported all the games that have yet to be released here. But no, I thought I'd be fine waiting. :(

[Yeargdribble]

I don't see why people are finding the controls so akward. Movement and camera are pretty much the same as games like Shadow of the Colossus.

I personally really like the battle system. I hear that most people do once they get used to it (including people that haven't played FFXI). It's a much faster and more streamlined version of that battle system. Once you've got your gambits down and such, XPing with a party is downright fun. The pacing of the battle system is great and I prefer it to random battles. Having played it I almost don't know how I ever handled random battles before this.

[Khaotic]

I want the old battle system, random encounters.

[Germ Hamee]

I'm not too far into it, yet. It seems only natural that the only game I've been hyped for in a very long time ends up being released directly before National Novel Writing Month. -.-

The plot has gone nowhere in three hours. HOWEVER, the battles and gameplay are lots of fun, especially when other people join your party. I normally despise RPG battles, so this is a nice change of pace for me.

[Russielloyd]

This isn't really a story spoiler but i'll hide it so no one know when the end of the game is close. But incase you do want to know...If you're just wanting to know what the story is on your first run-through and not doing any side-quest etc...then you should complete the game around about 60 hrs mark.

[Orophin]

Anyone playing in Active mode? It add a lot of challenge because the enemies can attack you while you select your attacks and I also put the Battle Speed a little faster than normal. It's a little hard during boss fights but I like it more than the normal setting.

[Hayabusa]

I'll just say a few things so I don't spoil it or over-hype -

1. The opening cut-scene was like watching Star Wars and Lord of the Rings -

2. The Voices are actually good.

3. Contrary to my bias pre-judgement, Vaan is pretty awesome. I was somewhat initially turned off by his voice, and that it wasn't as cool, as say, a particular captain, but it fits him and resembles speech patterns of Ryo Hazuki.

4. The story is compelling.

5. The areas are vast.

6. It looks and plays nicely.

7. THE BATTLE SYSTEM is Interesting, It keeps the ATB without....having the ATB....It's more like Phantasy Star Online....but with an ATB bar, this can work to an advantage to actually control your character to dodge attacks. Or seek cover while your bar reloads.

8. THE MUSIC- Sadly, Uematsu only did one track for this game as he's signed off as the Music Composer for FF, but the new person...which I don't know their name yet is good, because he/she incorporates Uematsu's elements along with some new elements, sometimes ranging into asian-esque tunes, to mostly vast symphonic epic orchestral goodness. So I was impressed there.

9. Let me make another point again about the VOICES. This is a BIG part that reminds you if you're playing a video game....or involved in an immersive stories. So far, They're very good. I'm not sure how 10's was since I haven't gone through that though, but I do know I favor the Japanese voice of Tidus over the American.

10. It's colorful!!

[Hayabusa]

pretty awesome so far id say:Dit reminds me alot of final fantast two now except it has the graphics to support the storyline now.it should prove to be a wicked game.


DUDE!!!!!!!! That's EXACTLY WHAT I THOUGHT, It's almost Identical to FF2's story, with the totalitarian Empire looming over them going to city to city destroying them - 2 WAS a wicked game and 12...Is really massive and magnificent.

[Ichimonji]

Ichimonji's FFXII Words of Advice:

1) Save a lot. At every chance you get, save the game. It might be hours before you see another save point, so remember to save after everything you do.

2) Steal a lot. Always steal from every enemy. Always. Since monsters don't drop gil anymore, you gain your money from the loot that they drop... So to speed up the looting process, stealing works wonders. Oh yeah, and SELL EVERYTHING!!! Except Teleports and Rare Rare Items. Keep some weapons and armour though for other characters.

3) Explore new areas but be careful. Always explore new and interesting areas if you're able to access them, even if you're unsure. If you’re using a walkthrough and it doesn't state to go to a certain area, go there anyway. However, be careful because there could be monsters a whole lot stronger than you... So use Libra to check the enemy's stats before you confront them.

4) Buy Maps. It just makes traveling so much easier. Even if you've uncovered the entire area by exploring yourself without a map, buy the map anyway, because chances are that there are more areas to the region.

5) Use License Points!! (wisely). You can do what you want to do with the LP Grid... However, make sure everyone has White Magick and Black Magick, as well as steal. Also make sure you go into the Augments part of the grid and get a whole bunch of crap there too. And of course, license your weapons and armour... But not until you buy them first.

That's all the advice for now. Enjoy.

[Moon Rabbits]

one complaint though so far -

VAAN'S VOICE - he sounds so prepubescent and annoying.

As in worse than Tidus?

Not worse than Tidus'. Vaan's voice fits him very well, I think.

I got the game last night, but me and a few friends were partying for halloween and we only sat down to play it for about a half hour. The Rogue Tomato was <3, I hope they release a plushie for it.

So far the story hasn't developed at all because I've only just killed the Rogue Tomato, and from what I read it won't develop for awhile. Oh well. Penelo is my favourite character so far, although I've only seen Basch, Vaan and she.

One minor gripe I have with the game, or more so myself, is that the millions of people/city names they throw in. I really like the depth they've added to the world, it's like taking History, only not boring as hell.

[Snap Jumper]

I've noticed there are lots of references to earlier games. It seems that there will be a lot of them.

[BustaMo]

A lot of cool stuff is returning: Ixion, Omega as a Super Boss (has over 10 million HP), many of the swords and just overall weapons are named after many from FFVII, FFVIII, FFIX, and FFX.

Also, anyone see that the final boss in the Marks Hunt...has 50 Million HP?

Pffft, Penance who!?

[Russielloyd]

A lot of cool stuff is returning: Ixion, Omega as a Super Boss (has over 10 million HP), many of the swords and just overall weapons are named after many from FFVII, FFVIII, FFIX, and FFX.

Also, anyone see that the final boss in the Marks Hunt...has 50 Million HP?

Pffft, Penance who!?


I take it, you've had a good look at the guide book, but 50 million HP? Seriously? Oh there has to be some sort of weapon that breaks the 9999 limit or something to that effect.

[Clouded Sky]

So I woke up yesterday, biked the three miles to Target at 8AM in the 30 degree weather without a hat and gloves to pick this baby up. (Needless to say, I also bought a hat and gloves for the ride home. The joys of not having a car at college!) Between classes and other social activities I was able to squeeze in about 3 hour of gameplay yesterday, and so far, it's amazing. The story holds a lot of intrigue, and I'm excited for it to pick up. Also, if you want to make the game even more exciting than it already is, turn off wait and switch to active. Talk about fast(er) paced.

[feioncastor]

I know it's a weird thing to say, but it doesn't feel like "Final Fantasy" to me. It's a fun game, and I enjoy it, but I expect a different experience out of Final Fantasy that is usually delivered.

I dunno. I'm just not used a battle system like this. At least not for a FF game. I've played other games like .hack and they're okay, but Final Fantasy always had this unique quality to it.

It's sort of what drew me to it. You know, a game where you'd get into a fight and you wouldn't have to move your guy. You'd just input a command and he'd do it. Most video games, especially back then, weren't at all like that. They were more action-based. If you wanted your guy to move up to the bad guy, you have to push the d-pad and make him run up there.

I liked the old FF battle system, but who knows, maybe I'll get used to this one after I play it some more.

I do, however, like the presence of familiar names like Hashmal and Adramelch.

I got the Collector's Edition and when I was watching the special features disc, that's what got me most excited.

Here I am preaching about keeping to classic FF style, and at the same time, I get most excited about FFT references...

Anyway, the story seems cool. I mean, I'm not too far into it yet, but it seems pretty neat.

And the lisence system is similar to sphere grid, but not as lame. I didn't like the sphere grid.

There are just so many more things to do in this one. It's cool. I guess that's an FF trademark itself. Each game being totally unique. They almost all have a different way of learning magic and other combat techniques. As long as we're not drawing and junctioning again, I think I'll like this game just fine.

[neverforgetthem625]

i don't like it.
i've only been plaing it for a little bit, but i don't like it.
i don't like the battle system, i don't like the storyline...
i'm too much of a traditional FF fan. i enjoyed FFIX better than any other so far...
and i don't think i'm going to enjoy FFXIII either...some website said 'you say to yourself-"am i really playing Final Fantasy?!"'
thats a direct quote from the creator.
it just doesn't feel like FF...

[feioncastor]

it just doesn't feel like FF...

I know what you mean.

Final Fantasy 1 and Final Fantasy 4 were two totally different games, in many, many ways. But they both have a certain quality about them that defines Final Fantasy.

I won't say that I don't like FFXII because I do. I just think that I like it as a game on its own, not part of Final Fantasy. Maybe I'll feel differently when I ride a Chocobo or something.

[Rye]

This game is getting more and more great. I'm loving it so far. Fran is my new favorite. :)

[Auragaea]

The game is okay, nothing too special. And even though random battles might seem annoying, I prefer it over FFXII's battles. Before I stopped playing for the day, I was in the second portion of the desert with the oil drills and I needed to save, yet there wasn't a save point close by. So I ran all the way from that place, through the Zeltanian(sp) cave and through the first section, only to have wasted 8 Phoenix Downs and a lot of my time because of non-random encounters.

[RiseToFall]

I didn't exactly feel like making another thread so I'll just ask it here. For all the people that picked up the Collectors Edition, was it worth the extra $10?

[feioncastor]

It was for a guy like me. It had a featurette called "The History of Final Fantasy" where they talked about all 12 of the games, and mentioned which game had which firsts (i.e. first chocobo, first moogle) and they always covered the role of Cid in each game. Plus it has a lot of still artwork, like pictures of Espers and such.

[Andy]

the introduction with the narrator voice kind of annoyed me a bit, but everything else is SUPERRRRB. I really love the battle system and the characters. And Fran...!! OMG IS SHE HOT.

[Zeromus_X]

I don't think I've ever spent 90 dollars on any gaming purchase outside of the internet before today, but I guess there's a first time for everything.

I must now indulge.

[Miriel]

I've only gotten to the part after the first monster hunt so I'm not very far into the game. But these are my initial impressions.

- Panelo is not annoying me like I thought she would. Yay!
- I like it when people in the game say Vaan's name out loud because it makes me think of Vaughn from Alias and there are few fictional people in this world I love more than Vaughn. Ooh, Vaughn. So yeah. That makes me happy just by association.
- Vayne talks funny. In fact, a lot of the dialogue is weirdly stilted. I can't exactly put my finger on it. It might just be the emphasis placed on certain words that doesn't quite come out right, or just the way some of the sentences are structured themselves. They don't sound like how people actually talk. But Vayne in particular sounds really awkward, convoluted and funny.
- The license board makes me very nervous. I change my mind a lot and the lincense thing is so permanent that it makes me not want to purchase licenses for fear that I'll change my mind about it later. Hmm.
- I'm very used to the FFXI style fighting, so all that is going pretty well for me and I'm enjoying it.
- The limitations of the camera angles and stuff is really annoying at times.
- The music isn't standing out to me
- The game itself is beeeeautiful.
- Basch made me sad. ;_;

Overall I'm really enjoying myself. I haven't played anything beside FFXI in a very long time. It's weird because occassionally, when I'm fighting and something links, I think "oh, I hope someone comes by and grabs the link" and then it's like, "wait, no." xD

[Marshall Banana]

Mmm, Vayne looks like Laguna! Although, I didn't really notice until I watched his speech in Rabanastre.

I don't have a single complaint about it yet. The intro was stunning, and everything since has been really fun and epic. Not to mention that the music has been stuck in my head all day. FFXII could easily become my favorite (but it's possible that I'm just a little too hyped xD).

[Yar]

I'm on hour 16. Around hours 2-3 I was getting used to battle system. Around hour 10, I HATED it. By hour 13, I LOVED it.

The story is flying over my head. Something about a dawn shard?

By the way:
Balthier = Smartass = Awesome
Fran = Icelandic = Sweet

[punkforpez]

the intro was absolutely gorgeous! i am only a short ways into the game, school is taking up most of my time, but it's beautiful! i don't know about the battle system yet, but i'm being optimistic.

[skillzboy4]

Right now im really enjoying this ff12 game.

BAttle System: In the beginning of the game i hated the battle system it was way too slow and it took forever to hit, but as you got deeper into the game, it gets very good and challenging, so people who are just starting the game and aren't 5-6 hours into playing it dont be quick to judge, itll get better

Story: Story is actually really good i didn't expect it to be this good so thumbs up for that.

Music: the biggest weakness of this game by far....

[Orophin]

BAttle System: In the beginning of the game i hated the battle system it was way too slow and it took forever to hit, but as you got deeper into the game, it gets very good and challenging, so people who are just starting the game and aren't 5-6 hours into playing it dont be quick to judge, itll get better


Put Active mode (monsters attacks you while you choose your commands) and put the battle speed to the max in the config and you will see that it will be very fast. :p

[Zeromus_X]

I'm enjoying it so far. I'm pretty blown away by the expansiveness of it, the last time the beginning town blew me away with its size was FFIX (which makes it seem like they give special treatment to every three games in the series :p). The storyline and atmosphere is well fitting of another adventure in Ivalice, warring nations and political schemes notwithstanding. Hell, I'm only two hours into the game! I like the monster hunts, and I definitely, most definitely enjoy the License Board. It's like the Sphere Grid, but not all crazy and everything. I love it. I may go far as to say I heart.gif it.

The new battle system is neat, though it gets getting used to. It isn't even really in real time, so I'm not sure why some people are all 'omg it's not liek teh final fantasy!!1111111111111one'. This game has something for everyone, old school and newer players of the series alike. It's a pleasant treat to be able to equip more than three pieces of equipment again.

The characters are generally enjoyable now (Vayne=<3<3<3), though Vaan's voice actor is really nasal. Still, nothing is worse than James Arnold Taylor.

I could go on and on, but I've paraphrased the same thing in two other message boards and my fingers hurt. It would probably be a good idea to copy/paste this...

Edit: In addition, the 'History of Final Fantasy' featurette in the Collector's Edition bonus DVD was a nice treat. The art book in the CE strategy guide is gorgeous, and the guide itself is almost as big as a phone book. I didn't think I'd see a guide bigger than Kingdom Hearts II's or Star Ocean 3's, though it's not as big as Disgaea 2's of course...

I got Vaan on the cover. :) :cat:


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I also noticed the wierd dialogue. In addition, some of the words that are spoken are not in the subtitles (yes, I leave the subtitles on, what.), though it wouldn't make much of a difference in understanding.

Oh dear god, I LOVE THE LICENSE BOARD. This thing is so awesome. Maybe it's just because of all the equipment, or maybe it's the high from getting to buy magic from shops again, but I just really enjoy the customization system in FFXII.

[skillzboy4]

BAttle System: In the beginning of the game i hated the battle system it was way too slow and it took forever to hit, but as you got deeper into the game, it gets very good and challenging, so people who are just starting the game and aren't 5-6 hours into playing it dont be quick to judge, itll get better


Put Active mode (monsters attacks you while you choose your commands) and put the battle speed to the max in the config and you will see that it will be very fast. :p


yeah i had it active mode in the beginning it still kinda felt slow for me, but its really sick now.

[The Summoner of Leviathan]

Fran does rock. I loved her since I started playing the game. Her voice is awesome and over all as a character she is awesome. Vieras FTW.

The only thing I found was until recently (so early on) it was hard to have enough gil to be properly equiped and stuff and I ended up dying quite often. Right now I am Where you fight Vosslar (sp???) after he reveals that he was helping Gnis acquire the deified nephicite (The Dawn Shard) in negotiation for the restoration of Damalsca and Ashe to the thrown.

EDIT: I love hearing and saying Bhujerba. It is an awesome word.

[El Bandito]

Well I agree with everyone about the storyline and battle system. It did start out a little slow, but once you get some good gambits and weapons/licenses, the game really starts to pick up the pace both in the plot and in gameplay.

I also love how open-ended the license board is. I'll admit, it's way, WAY more complicated than previous games' technique systems and you actually have to think over and save license points to plan a good route through it, but I can't help but smile knowing that in at least one of my save spots I'm gonna give Penelo a greatsword. The replay value is looking top notch.

This and Guitar Hero 2 are why I'm probably not going to even think about getting a next-gen system until next summer or so.

[The Knights of the Round]

ive had this game since about 12:05 in the morning on october 31st and i just hit the 5 hour mark last night at one in the morning. unfortunately i havnt been able to play longer due to school and work, anyway, the story has now begun to pick up, and your now with a couple other team mates. the battle system is actually pretty cool, ive found myself being ganged up on with about 6 enemies. and you can take care of one enemy while your other people deal with their own. its also nice to not have to switch screens for every battle.

[Russielloyd]

I also noticed the wierd dialogue. In addition, some of the words that are spoken are not in the subtitles (yes, I leave the subtitles on, what.), though it wouldn't make much of a difference in understanding.

That would be the "Ye Olde English" if i recall?

[Dell]

A lot of cool stuff is returning: Ixion, Omega as a Super Boss (has over 10 million HP), many of the swords and just overall weapons are named after many from FFVII, FFVIII, FFIX, and FFX.

Also, anyone see that the final boss in the Marks Hunt...has 50 Million HP?

Pffft, Penance who!?


I take it, you've had a good look at the guide book, but 50 million HP? Seriously? Oh there has to be some sort of weapon that breaks the 9999 limit or something to that effect.

You don't need anything to break the damage limit(I successfully chain 9 Quickenings and deal 14000 damage to Mateus)).


The game is okay, nothing too special. And even though random battles might seem annoying, I prefer it over FFXII's battles. Before I stopped playing for the day, I was in the second portion of the desert with the oil drills and I needed to save, yet there wasn't a save point close by. So I ran all the way from that place, through the Zeltanian(sp) cave and through the first section, only to have wasted 8 Phoenix Downs and a lot of my time because of non-random encounters.

You can't access Zertinan Cavern from the Estersand but Westersand, so I think you enter the wrong place. Or do you mean the Yensan Sandsea? Because there's a lot of entrances to Zertinan Cavern there.
Zertinan Cavern is where you obtain the optional Esper, Adrammelech, so you can't expect an easy dungeon for a gold bounty :p .

[Zeromus_X]

I also noticed the wierd dialogue. In addition, some of the words that are spoken are not in the subtitles (yes, I leave the subtitles on, what.), though it wouldn't make much of a difference in understanding.

That would be the "Ye Olde English" if i recall?

...No, the dialogue actually seems stinted and the timing is off, like Miriel mentioned. In addition, some words spoken by the characters aren't in the subtitles, for no real reason. I had more to my post than what you bolded. xD

[Rean_The_Exiled]

Gameplay: Great.
Battle system: Awesome.
Dialogue: Could use a little improvement.
Enemy designs: spectacular.
License board system: unique
Oh....and one more thing...toughest enemy so far....Werewolf cuz he kicked my effin arse into the next dimension.

[Russielloyd]

I also noticed the wierd dialogue. In addition, some of the words that are spoken are not in the subtitles (yes, I leave the subtitles on, what.), though it wouldn't make much of a difference in understanding.

That would be the "Ye Olde English" if i recall?

...No, the dialogue actually seems stinted and the timing is off, like Miriel mentioned. In addition, some words spoken by the characters aren't in the subtitles, for no real reason. I had more to my post than what you bolded. xD

Well i'm just going by the leaked version, but on mine the voices are out of sync anyways, so i thought it was a burning problem and i know Vayne speaks different to others and thought that could be weird for some peeps.


You don't need anything to break the damage limit(Spoiler: I successfully chain 9 Quickenings and deal 14000 damage to Mateus)).


I did a 15 hit Quickening combo, going over 30k damage.I mean as a single hit from a weapon or something.

[Dell]

You don't need anything to break the damage limit(Spoiler: I successfully chain 9 Quickenings and deal 14000 damage to Mateus)).


I did a 15 hit Quickening combo, going over 30k damage.I mean as a single hit from a weapon or something.

Wait, are we fighting about how many combos we can chain? :p I've done 20. :D

For the weapon, I think you can because I remember my Basch doing 5 digit damage with his weapon (Not really sure).

[Russielloyd]

You don't need anything to break the damage limit(Spoiler: I successfully chain 9 Quickenings and deal 14000 damage to Mateus)).


I did a 15 hit Quickening combo, going over 30k damage.I mean as a single hit from a weapon or something.

Wait, are we fighting about how many combos we can chain? :p I've done 20. :D

For the weapon, I think you can because I remember my Basch doing 5 digit damage with his weapon (Not really sure).

20, how far you into the game?

[Dell]

You don't need anything to break the damage limit(Spoiler: I successfully chain 9 Quickenings and deal 14000 damage to Mateus)).


I did a 15 hit Quickening combo, going over 30k damage.I mean as a single hit from a weapon or something.

Wait, are we fighting about how many combos we can chain? :p I've done 20. :D

For the weapon, I think you can because I remember my Basch doing 5 digit damage with his weapon (Not really sure).

20, how far you into the game?

At the end of the game, doing all of the sidequest.

[Russielloyd]

You don't need anything to break the damage limit(Spoiler: I successfully chain 9 Quickenings and deal 14000 damage to Mateus)).


I did a 15 hit Quickening combo, going over 30k damage.I mean as a single hit from a weapon or something.

Wait, are we fighting about how many combos we can chain? :p I've done 20. :D

For the weapon, I think you can because I remember my Basch doing 5 digit damage with his weapon (Not really sure).

20, how far you into the game?

At the end of the game, doing all of the sidequest.

I didnt bother with all that yet, just played for the story. Second time i play i'll do all that.

[Croyles]

I dont know what everyone is bickering about the dialogue. For me it seems to be great and much better than FFX, the language is different, but I havnt noticed anything off.
Oh and actual words spoken and subtitles being slightly different is common practice nowadays, because the subtitles can get too long to read in time with the voices, yet the meaning of the sentences are still kept.

[Melodies_of_life]

OMFG..... I freaking love this game. I got it when it was released and I have about 9 hours in it already and it really is great. The story starts moving a lot faster after you have been playing it for a while.

The thing that startled me was Vaan and Frans voice. I wasn't expecting them to sound like they do, but you get use to it.

[Rye]

I freaking love Fran's voice, it's so awesome.

I'm not too far in, only 5 hours about, but I'm really enjoying this game very much. Not a dull moment yet. :)

[Cruise Control]

Five hours and your already at Fran! I took 15 (LPing).

[RiseToFall]

Anyone at that point yet where they can judge this FF compared to the others, most notably X?

[The Captain]

I've only been playing the game for a little while now and I'm more than a bit blown away by the size and scope of everything. It's the first time where the cutscenes that show hundreds of residents and the actual gameplay with residents on the streets actually match, as in there actually ARE that many people and the cities ARE actually that big. The story is engrossing and I enjoy being in the dark about so much, because in a way, I feel kind of like the characters do, moving forward without knowing what's on the horizon.

Balthier is easily my favorite character, though I'm only beginning to get used to the license system and the fighting style, but I enjoy it, as it's definitely different than I'm used to which is a good thing to me.

Overall, no complaints, and I can only imagine what's going to happen next.

Take care all.

[Russielloyd]

I freaking love Fran's voice, it's so awesome.

Her voice is quality! I don't know what it is though but it is really good and most people seem to love her voice aswell.

[Dell]

Anyone at that point yet where they can judge this FF compared to the others, most notably X?

I have finished the game once. And FFX IS NOTHING COMPARED TO THIS!!!!!!!!

[Rye]

I've only been playing the game for a little while now and I'm more than a bit blown away by the size and scope of everything. It's the first time where the cutscenes that show hundreds of residents and the actual gameplay with residents on the streets actually match, as in there actually ARE that many people and the cities ARE actually that big. The story is engrossing and I enjoy being in the dark about so much, because in a way, I feel kind of like the characters do, moving forward without knowing what's on the horizon.

Balthier is easily my favorite character, though I'm only beginning to get used to the license system and the fighting style, but I enjoy it, as it's definitely different than I'm used to which is a good thing to me.

Overall, no complaints, and I can only imagine what's going to happen next.

Take care all.

My thoughts exactly, though I like Fran more. The game is very huge, and the characters are all interesting and mysterious. I'm only about 7 and a half hours in and though I'm very confused, I'm loving it and I'm very interested. :)

[FallenAngel411]

About seven hours in myself, and I absolutely love this game so far. Maybe its only because its been so long since the first time I played FFX, but this game is completely sucking me in unlike anything else I've played, and it feels soooo much more epic. The story started out slow, but once the action started, IT NEVER FREAKING STOPPED. Now I'm in the middle of an un-stoppable marathon gaming session, and my roommate is bonking me over the head because she wants to watch TV. She probably won't get the chance tonight. :p

The only thing that has bothered me about the game so far is that it is waaaaaaaaaaaaay too easy to accidentally wander a few feet too far into some wasteland or another, and end up annhilated by some random monster lurking among all the stupid little guys that is about 10000000000000000000000000xs stronger than you. Square could have been a little more forgiving with this...at least putting reasonable barriers between weaker/stronger enemies so you don't randomly stumble on a guy you can't kill yet...damn T-Rex...:cry:

But other than that, this game is gold. I am absolutely in LUUURVE and CANNOT wait to see what happens next. This game is proof to all who may think otherwise that this series is the stuff of legend, and will only get better from here on out. Also, Balthier is the steamiest pile of sex I have ever laid eyes on in a videogame. :3

[Zeromus_X]

Were you not paying attention to Vayne, Mew?!

[Tyrel1985]

I didn't exactly feel like making another thread so I'll just ask it here. For all the people that picked up the Collectors Edition, was it worth the extra $10?


errm im not relly sure if this is only in canada.but the CE and reguralr editon are the same price....i preordered like a month ago for the regular edition...but when i went to pick it up t he dude there was like they dropped the price donw for the collectors edition:tongue:

[FallenAngel411]

Were you not paying attention to Vayne, Mew?!

What, did Vayne declare Balthier the smexiest man alive without me noticing?!?

[RiseToFall]

I didn't exactly feel like making another thread so I'll just ask it here. For all the people that picked up the Collectors Edition, was it worth the extra $10?


errm im not relly sure if this is only in canada.but the CE and reguralr editon are the same price....i preordered like a month ago for the regular edition...but when i went to pick it up t he dude there was like they dropped the price donw for the collectors edition:tongue:

Damn, I had to pay $59.99 for my CE, the normal one was obviously $49.99.

[Miriel]

I dont know what everyone is bickering about the dialogue. For me it seems to be great and much better than FFX, the language is different, but I havnt noticed anything off.
Oh and actual words spoken and subtitles being slightly different is common practice nowadays, because the subtitles can get too long to read in time with the voices, yet the meaning of the sentences are still kept.

They place the wrong emPHAsis on the wrong sylLAble sometimes. And occassionally, they'll throw in random words into sentences that come out very awkward. The problem isn't exactly what they're saying. It's how they're saying it and how it's coming out. The voices, the content of the conversations, none of that is an issue. There's just something very stilted about the sentence structures, and also the weird emphasis placed irregularly throughout the dialogue.

It's not a big gripe. And I can easily ignore it. But it's just a little weird.

[JulioA]

HI-YA rouge tomatoe. Oh, its pretty freaking cool. I love the license system, though I do spend about 1/2 an hour on each license. I can never decide.

[Miriel]

HI-YA rouge tomatoe. Oh, its pretty freaking cool. I love the license system, though I do spend about 1/2 an hour on each license. I can never decide.

Ahh, me too! Dangit, I'll never get anywhere in this game. I just sit and think and think cause I can't make up my mind. And even if I'm about to make up my mind, I'm like, "wait, but what if I change my mind later and I don't WANT this particular license?" and it's all very frustrating. I'm so indecisive. ;_;

[Dell]

HI-YA rouge tomatoe. Oh, its pretty freaking cool. I love the license system, though I do spend about 1/2 an hour on each license. I can never decide.

Ahh, me too! Dangit, I'll never get anywhere in this game. I just sit and think and think cause I can't make up my mind. And even if I'm about to make up my mind, I'm like, "wait, but what if I change my mind later and I don't WANT this particular license?" and it's all very frustrating. I'm so indecisive. ;_;

The best thing to do is to buy the equipment/magicks/technicks first. But don't worry, I've done a lot of mistake in activating the node and because I like training, all of the mistake is covered in the next dungeon.

[Rean_The_Exiled]

Yep....anyone else made the mistake of attacking the werewolf on the Giza Plains cuz i did....ARGH! Oh and Fran's voice rocks!!

[Miriel]

I really like Fran and Balthier. Fran sounds just like björk. :p And Balthier reminds me of someone but I just can't place it at the moment.

[Squall1989]

I picked mine up at the midnight opening and even stayed home from school to play. so far I've spent 15 hours playing and I have cherished every bit of it :D

[Squall1989]

they are easy to take out if you use a Mist quickening, I recommend Vaan, Basch, and Balthier. as long as you get the inferno conncurrence it should die in one hit. Just keep away from the 2nd one.:choc:

[BustaMo]

They only have about 2500HP, so once you level up some and have 3 party members with you at least, you'll be able to take them out with no problem. Just don't go getting near them during your first trip to the Giza Plains.

[Zeromus_X]

Liberation from everyday deeds! I will now have time today and on the weekend to spend playing this game. Hopefully now I can actually put in some serious play time.


Fran sounds just like björk.

OMG, yes, that's perfect. I couldn't figure out who I was thinking of before.

I died on those Werewolves the first time. xD And then, after I die, I find the NPC that tells me not to mess with them. :P :cat:

[The Captain]

Boy, some of these bosses are the real deal. I haven't died so often playing a FF game in a long, long time.


Take care all.

[Moon Rabbits]

I'm currently about 9 hours in, aboard the Leviathan and I've only stopped playing because I fought the mini-boss battle (two Judges + regular Imperial soldiers), died, tried again and won but went the wrong way and wound up dying again. After I work off the boredom of going through the same dungeon a THIRD time, I'll go back to playing.

I do have a few questions though, all of them are about things that happen BEFORE Leviathan:

Why did the Marquis of Bhujerba hand over Vaan+Co. to the Empire if he is on the side of the Resistance? Was it to save his own backside because he announced Basch dead? Or what?

I've forgotten Lamont's real name and political position, what were they again?

Other than that, the story is very complex yet understandable to me.

Balthier is the sex, Fran's voice is indeed amazing, and none of the main characters annoy me! This is one of the only games, or media period, that has managed to make consistently not-annoying characters.

I got Feral Assault (or whatever) for Fran but it goes too fast for me to really register how to work Mist Quickenings.

A note about the music: it's very, very well done and fits the game perfectly. Unfortunately, no tracks have stuck out enough for me to seek them out and download, like Uematsu's tracks do.

[The Summoner of Leviathan]

First question: I cannot remember.
Larsa and he is the fourth son of the Archadian Emperor, younger brother of Vayne.

[Zeromus_X]

Lamont is male? :(

[Malboro_Menace]

Just a question, how do you save in this one?

[Russielloyd]

Just a question, how do you save in this one?


Blue save crystals and Orange Teleport cyrstals.

Along the way there will be Green Crystals, which are mimics and will need to be defeated before they turn into save crystals.

[Moon Rabbits]

Lamont is male? :(

Yes. In pictures he looks very feminine, however in game it was very easy for me to tell that he was indeed male.


Just a question, how do you save in this one?

The giant blue crystals. You can't miss them, they're the size of freakin' Vaan.

I just fought the battle with Judge Ghis and it was rather anti-climactic for a Judge battle. I mean, he didn't even use any special attacks and all I had to do was have Penelo immobilize the Imperial soldiers, have Balthier kill them off, and Basch assault Ghis until he was dead. I think Fran used a Mist Quickening at one point.

[Zeromus_X]

I couldn't even tell he was a guy outside of menu portraits. :/ I feel so clueless. xD

[Malboro_Menace]

No, no, no you don't understand. I was just asking to see if it was anything like ffx saving. It hasn't been released here yet so yeah.

Do they heal you fully?

[Zeromus_X]

Yep, they fully restore everyone's HP and MP. :)

Which is very good, as healing supplies and magic may not be adequate enough near the end of a dungeon.

[Takara]

I hadn't even started playing the game, yet. Just looking at the opening sequence, Square-Enix won me over.

I can tell this game is teh awesome.

I mean, come on, it has Prologue! My favourite FF track ever.

[Zeromus_X]

Prelude, but we all get what you mean.

It has been some time since it was in the actual title screen. Far too long.

[the_5th_of_4]

I just recently got FFXII CE and I have like 9 hours and 20 minutes in, and I reached a point where I got the GAME OVER, so I decided to take a break. It has been really fun and has a great story, I only wish his clothes and armor was customizable... kinda sick of the whole vest thing...
The funny thing is, usually when I stop playing a game after GAME OVER I am mad and frusterated, but I was actually happy. Perhaps it is just that perfect combination of fun and challenges, or maybe I am just a little tipsy off of the cold medicine I just took :p
The battle system is fun, if you set it so you aren't just letting the Gambits do all the work. Also it is nice how you can do practically anything with your licenses and weapons, etc.

This is a definite recommendation and, in my opinion, definitely one of the best FF games.
*****/5 stars so far :love:

[skillzboy4]

Anybody thats been playing the game is it ok to skip scenes?? will it effect the game in the future cz i did that x-2 n ended up not getting 100% in ffx-2

[kissgirls]

is this game any good?, i was thinking of buying it but, wanna know your guys is acts to this game :)

[Takara]

Prelude, but we all get what you mean.

It has been some time since it was in the actual title screen. Far too long.

No, I really meant Prologue (ya know, the track that plays when Cecil and Kain leave Baron in FFIV). Although I agree that it's been a while since Prelude was used as an opening theme and it made me go w00t!

[Zeromus_X]

Ah, my mistake. :cat:

[RiseToFall]

is this game any good?, i was thinking of buying it but, wanna know your guys is acts to this game :)

Look around on this thread and I beleive you will find your answer.

[fullmetal_fantasy]

Ah....I got it on Oct. 31 (when it came out). So far it's pretty good, i like the characters and the only complaint is that i hate the battle system xD I wish they would stick to the same things. If the were going to make it active battle then they could of at least made it like Kingdom Hearts or somthing. But...aww i dunno it's alright but there are things i don't like about the battle system.

And also i'm not one to bash the voice actors, but i don't like Vaan o.o
and it's not just the voice actor either xD He looks too much like Tidus but i hated Tidus in the beginning then i started to like him towards the middle of the game. I have a feeling i'm going to start to like him though. But is it just me or is there somthing wrong with Vaan's face? o_o

But otherwise i really like it ^_^
and Ashe,Balthier & Fran are my favorite characters :p
But i do hope that it'll be somewhat like FFX so Ashe and Vaan will hook up. :rolleyes2 *is a sucker for final fantasy love stories*

[fantasyjunkie]

I like it soooooo much better that FFX. I kinda had the feeling that plot wise FF went back to it's old school roots. I'm not really a FF fan(I'm into Morrowind and Oblivion) but I like this game a lot!

[CloudedSquall]

Can i just ask.. what is Basche like? In all of the clips of the game i've played he looks so freaking badass. is this true? It seems like Balthier is the favourite so far.

[Ichimonji]

Basch is far from badass. If you're thinking of badass along the lines of Auron, or Amarant; Basch is nothing of the sort. He is a noble warrior who values honour. If anybody is badass in this game it would be Balthier.

[BustaMo]

Anybody thats been playing the game is it ok to skip scenes?? will it effect the game in the future cz i did that x-2 n ended up not getting 100% in ffx-2

I would recommend not skiping scenes. Isn't one of the main purposes of playing a game to find out the depths of the story? Man usually if I accidently skip a scene, I'll restart back to last save point so I don't miss anything. It takes away from you learning more of the story if that's what you're asking.

[Zeromus_X]

I only skip story sequences if I've died and had to start over (or forgot to save and reset >_>), which has actually happened a couple times.

[Moon Rabbits]

Anybody thats been playing the game is it ok to skip scenes?? will it effect the game in the future cz i did that x-2 n ended up not getting 100% in ffx-2

Skip one scene and you'll pretty much be lost story-wise. If you don't mind that, skip away!




And also i'm not one to bash the voice actors, but i don't like Vaan o.o
and it's not just the voice actor either xD He looks too much like Tidus but i hated Tidus in the beginning then i started to like him towards the middle of the game. I have a feeling i'm going to start to like him though. But is it just me or is there somthing wrong with Vaan's face? o_o

But otherwise i really like it ^_^
and Ashe,Balthier & Fran are my favorite characters :p
But i do hope that it'll be somewhat like FFX so Ashe and Vaan will hook up. :rolleyes2 *is a sucker for final fantasy love stories*

I don't think Ashe and Vaan will hook up because:

a) Aren't Vaan and Penelo boyfriendxgirlfriend?
b) I heard there is a FranxBalthierxAshe love triangle.

Also, about Vaan, he's a good hero. He's not annoying like Tidus was, and he's not whiney anti-hero like SquallxCloud were, and he's just better than Zidane in general, he isn't as annoying as say...Kite of .hack, and I just plain like him better than Bartz and Cecil. So yeah, he's one of the better main characters in an RPG in awhile.

[Zeromus_X]

I'm pretty sure there isn't any romantic subplot in this game at all, at least that's what I've heard from people who already played through the game.

I'm also pretty sure that Vaan and Penelo are just friends.

Thank god.

[Orophin]

I'm pretty sure there isn't any romantic subplot in this game at all, at least that's what I've heard from people who already played through the game.

I'm also pretty sure that Vaan and Penelo are just friends.

Thank god.

Yup, it doesn't have one and I'm glad they didn't put one. Since FFVIII, the loves stories are too much present... it's good to see a new FF without one.

[Zeromus_X]

Oh dear jesus, what insane person in development decided to put these Elementals smack in the middle of here?! I mean honestly! It just offs and Firagas two of my people as I try running for safety. I ended up running all the way back to the save point in the Westersand just to save! Ugh. How do I get past them?

Also: I forgot to say how nice the inside of the case smelled. It was even better than KHII's case.

[Rye]

Oh dear jesus, what insane person in development decided to put these Elementals smack in the middle of here?! I mean honestly! It just offs and Firagas two of my people as I try running for safety. I ended up running all the way back to the save point in the Westersand just to save! Ugh. How do I get past them?

Also: I forgot to say how nice the inside of the case smelled. It was even better than KHII's case.

God yes. That part is really hard, and I ended up being killed during it. ;__;

[Zeromus_X]

Oh, and now I find out that it's guarding a place you aren't supposed to go to until later in the game. Well, at least I made it past the annoying oil refinery part. ;_;

[Miriel]

Jeez. Someone needs to pull that giant stick out of Ashe's ass. >_>

[Takara]

Wait, there's a Collector's Edition?

Why is it all the cool stuff isn't sold here? >_< I'm surprised they even had the strategy guide at my local video game store.

[Zeromus_X]

Yes, the CE game and guide were GameStop/EB Games exclusive purchases.

Oh my god. Demon Wall. Only now there's no Bio, Haste, or Berserk to help me.

[Takara]

Mmm. Maybe they ran out of CE here, then, because my local video game store is a EB Games and it only had the regular game in stock.

Oh well, I maintain that it's the best 59$ I've spent in months! I'm not very far in the game yet, and I'm already addicted.

[Rye]

Jeez. Someone needs to pull that giant stick out of Ashe's ass. >_>

Yes. ;__; This is probably the only FF where I like every character, even Vaan, but Ashe is starting to hurt that!

[Croyles]

Jeez. Someone needs to pull that giant stick out of Ashe's ass. >_>

Yes. ;__; This is probably the only FF where I like every character, even Vaan, but Ashe is starting to hurt that!

Yep, thats her. Finally a good representation of someone in a position of that much power and wealth.

[Zeromus_X]

I dunno, Ashe doesn't seem too annoying to me. I mean, she was iffy when you first met "Amalia", but now she seems like a good character.

[Rye]

Whoa, I'm in the Ogir-Yensa Sandsea, so I'm way ahead, but I JUST found out that Lamot/Larsa is a boy. xD What the hell.

[Zeromus_X]

Yeah, I think we were all taken aback by that.

[Croyles]

Seriously? I noticed he was a boy straight away, i mean, hes just a boy, but he doesnt exactly look feminine.

[Zeromus_X]

His voice, face, and long hair gave off the impression that he was female, at least to me. It doesn't help that they don't seem to mention what gender he is until much later. >_>

[Emerald Aeris]

FF12 reminds me of a combination of FF6, FFT, and Vagrant Story. That makes it extremely sexy to me. I'm definitely impressed.

[Croyles]

I always thought of Balthier as a slightly less sarcastic version of Han Solo.

[Russielloyd]

I knew straight off that he was a boy. He sounds like a boy and looks like a boy. I don't see how it's confusing to people, it's blatantly obvious.

[Zeromus_X]

And apparently it wasn't blatantly obvious to some other people, considering the overall feminine appearance of Lamont becuase of his youth and his high voice.

[Rye]

He looked like a short girl and he sounded like an adult woman, not a youthful boy. D:

Also, I'm really getting into the fighting system now. I just got to Raithwall Tomb and fought the first boss there, and it was fun to strategize the type of gambits I should use. You never got to do that with other games. The battle was so easy because I had Fran as my leader slinging arrows since Garuda is a flying monster and Vaan and Ashe doing thunder as their first gambit for previously stated reason.

[Russielloyd]

Well anyways, he's a boy and later, he will be a great help to you with his unlimited x-potions and hi-potions.

For those that don't know and were maybe wondering. The Prologue song that's at the start of FF12, the last time that was used at the start of a FF game was FF5, but was last used in FF8, in the ending credits.

[xmiss-animex]

okay but has anyone yet obtain adrammelech ? ? ? ? ? ?? ? im dieing to obtain him im only like 26 almost 27 hrs into the game but it does not state that you have to get to a surtin place to obtain adrammelech so yea has anyone yet obtain him? ? ? ? lol probly not but yea lol

[xmiss-animex]

okay but has anyone yet obtain adrammelech ? ? ? ? ? ?? ? im dieing to obtain him im only like 26 almost 27 hrs into the game but it does not state that you have to get to a surtin place to obtain adrammelech so yea has anyone yet obtain him? ? ? ? lol probly not but yea lol


p.s yes i do no hes an exra esper :p

[Russielloyd]

okay but has anyone yet obtain adrammelech ? ? ? ? ? ?? ? im dieing to obtain him im only like 26 almost 27 hrs into the game but it does not state that you have to get to a surtin place to obtain adrammelech so yea has anyone yet obtain him? ? ? ? lol probly not but yea lol


p.s yes i do no hes an exra esper :p

Just use your quickenings, not also will they deal damage to him but will damage his minions around him. Near death he'll put up a magickal and physical barrier and just run around from him like crazy, dont exit the area or he will have full HP again, Once his barriers are gone beat him down. Exactly what i did and i beat him, think i was about level 30 odd though.

[xmiss-animex]

okay but has anyone yet obtain adrammelech ? ? ? ? ? ?? ? im dieing to obtain him im only like 26 almost 27 hrs into the game but it does not state that you have to get to a surtin place to obtain adrammelech so yea has anyone yet obtain him? ? ? ? lol probly not but yea lol


p.s yes i do no hes an exra esper :p

Just use your quickenings, not also will they deal damage to him but will damage his minions around him. Near death he'll put up a magickal and physical barrier and just run around from him like crazy, dont exit the area or he will have full HP again, Once his barriers are gone beat him down. Exactly what i did and i beat him, think i was about level 30 odd though.

yea but where do i enter to get to him there so manny places to go in to get in that cave like what land do i gota be in to get him ? ? ? do you no

[Russielloyd]

I went through Westersands and just make you way to the middle. There's a save crystal inside, when you find it, save your game, go back out of the save crystal area, and make you first left, he's in there.

[xmiss-animex]

I went through Westersands and just make you way to the middle. There's a save crystal inside, when you find it, save your game, go back out of the save crystal area, and make you first left, he's in there.

you kick ass < 3 mwahz lol

[Miriel]

What the heck. I don't think I even considered for a moment that Larsa was anything but a boy. Y'all are nuts. :p

[Moon Rabbits]

What the heck. I don't think I even considered for a moment that Larsa was anything but a boy. Y'all are nuts. :p

[Zeromus_X]

http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i166/Zeromus_X/70px-LarsaSolidor.jpg

Okay, then Rye and I are just crazy. Fine.

[Rye]

My boyfriend is one of you silly people who thought Larsa was a boy straight off the back. I don't understand it! I genuinely thought Larsa was a short chick like me! I was so excited, the first short adult Final Fantasy female, but noooo. ;__; I'm siding with Zeromus on this one, I was so convinced that Larsa was a girl.

[Raistlin]

He's obviously male. Anyone who thought he was a girl at all is blind and deaf. And probably mentally challenged.

[The Summoner of Leviathan]

What the heck. I don't think I even considered for a moment that Larsa was anything but a boy. Y'all are nuts. :p

[xmiss-animex]

lol i thoght larsa was a gurl at first to till i seen there was no ta tas haha and that he was called the son of blah blah lol but yea i m not happy with where i m right now its pissin me off badly

[Croyles]

He's obviously male. Anyone who thought he was a girl at all is blind and deaf. And probably mentally challenged.

:D

[Roto13]

Are you kidding me? Look at him. Listen to him. I'm still not convinced he's not just a really short woman.

[Rye]

Are you kidding me? Look at him. Listen to him. I'm still not convinced he's not just a really short woman.

THANK YOU. He sounds and looks like a short woman! An adult woman and a young boy aren't supposed to sound the same.

[Jowy]

I thought he was a guy. *shrug*

[BustaMo]

Eh, yeah, Larsa is refered to as "him" and "he" numerous times. It's obvious right from the start. Also, "Lamont". That's a male name.

[*Lady luck*]

Yeah, at first glance I wasn't exactly sure that he was a boy. Especially becuase it kinda looks like he's wearing a skirt and tall boots... like Ashe. But when I found out that he was a child it made much more sense why he didn't have more manly features. Also, when I heard him speak I didn't think he sounded like a girl.

For everyone that thinks it is just blatantly obvious that is he's a boy.... well ... its not.

[Zeromus_X]

Yeah, at first glance I wasn't exactly sure that he was a boy. Especially becuase it kinda looks like he's wearing a skirt and tall boots... like Ashe. But when I found out that he was a child it made much more sense why he didn't have more manly features. Also, when I heard him speak I didn't think he sounded like a girl.

For everyone that thinks it is just blatantly obvious that is he's a boy.... well ... its not.

Exactly. I never even heard him referred to as a he, until long after he left the party.

Got the Demonsbane sword yesterday (took a few tries). It's awesome! I'm doing ~500-600 damage a swing, even more if Ashe does a combo! It was worth it to kill that first Demon Wall.

Went through Raithwall's Tomb. Woah. And the scenes after are just...like, yeah, woah. And I got to try out my first Esper, Wiegraf Belias on Vossler (who betrayed us...;__; )

Yay! The story is really awesome now. I hope I don't have to farm Bone Fragments anymore to make money, though...

[Croyles]

I hope I don't have to farm Bone Fragments anymore to make money, though...

I did that for 3 hours :cry:

I completed the game a couple of days ago, (ive had it for a while). IT was really difficult at my level!

[Raistlin]

Zeromus - you defeated the first Demonwall your first time in Raithwall? What level were you? That thing kicked my ass, though the second one was cake.

[Rye]

I just got past Henne Mines and the whole Euryt Village Fran/Mjrn departing scene, (I'm a bit behind since I haven't played in two days) and I have to say that that part was probably the most heart-wrenching part of the whole game thus far. :( And the music was very pretty for said village, I loved it.

[My name is...something..?]

I just made it to the final dungeon today. :)
I don't want to go in yet, because I want to finish off some hunts.
I've basically done like three. :D?
But the temptation to beat it is just so great.:(

I don't have any ultimate weapons and my characters are only about lvl 38-40.
I haven't had any problems with anything so far, so I think I can take the final boss as I am.
Not really concerned about espers because all they seem to do is die in .8 seconds. :/

The combat system was alright, but made somethings a little too easy if you set Gambits up right.
I didn't even have to do anything manually for some of the boss fights about midway through the story.
The boss fights near the end actually felt epic instead of feeling like:
"Oh, a boss in front of a door, let's kill it and move on."

As for everything else:
Music: Loved it, definitely some of the best in the series in my opinion.

Graphics: It's a new Final Fantasy, you should know what to expect.
(I was really happy that FMVs were used as scarcely as possible)

Story: The story was really good, character development was kinda low,
but I knew everything I needed to know about each of them.
Only real problem with the story is that some of the key events were blown over in
a matter of seconds in someone's lines.
I won't spoil anything, but you'll see what I'm talking about.

All in all, it's a great game, glad I dished out the cash to get it.;)

[Zeromus_X]

Zeromus - you defeated the first Demonwall your first time in Raithwall? What level were you? That thing kicked my ass, though the second one was cake.

It did take several tries, I definitely didn't do it on my first time. xD I apologize if I left that impression. I got enough Gil to upgrade my equipment at the merchant traveler's shop, and bought Berserk, which was essential. My main party was at level 21. I started off with a Quickening chain with Fran, Ashe, and Basch. Then I swapped in Vaan and did another chain with him (this all didn't do too much to him though, since I suck at this Quickening stuff). Then I cast Berserk on Basch and Vossler, and had Ashe use a Reflectga node. I had to use Eye Drops on my characters (I didn't have a Ally Status: Blind gambit like the guide suggested) to get rid of the Blind status, and Ashe was sent into the void by X-Zone, but I eventually killed the damn thing. I totally pwned the second one though. :p :cat:

[Miriel]

I've just decided, I am not really enjoying the battle system.

[Zeromus_X]

Weren't you enjoying it before Miriel? :( Isn't it similar to FFXI? :cat: What's wrong with it? :cat:

[Miriel]

The thing is, I really really miss having characters who had specific strengths. And most of the battles only take a couple swipes to finish off the monster. So I was looking at the license board today and there are a BUNCH of spells that I never use because there's never really any time to use them. Things like Slow and Haste don't come in handy at all when you're just running around fighting because basically it's just thwack thwack and the monsters dies. You don't even have to be looking at the screen, you don't even actually have to do anything if the gambits are on properly.

It's just, I miss thinking things out and going, "ok, I think I'll cast fire now". And stuff like that.

I don't hate the battle system, it certainly makes for more leisurely playing. I can be browsing EoFF and farming/leveling up at the same time. So that's cool. I just don't think it's all that fun or exciting.

As for being similar to FFXI, the only thing that is similar is how the monsters are roaming around and can aggro you. Other than that, FFXI is a faaaaar more complex and strategic battling system. And of course FFXI has the job system which I really like.

[Ichimonji]

So I was looking at the license board today and there are a BUNCH of spells that I never use because there's never really any time to use them. Things like Slow and Haste don't come in handy at all when you're just running around fighting because basically it's just thwack thwack and the monsters dies.

Oh, you'll be using those spells and a ton of others in the future, I assure you. The game gets more strategic nearing the end when you're doing complex hunts and sidequests.

[Miriel]

So for the majority of the game it's just thwack thwack thwack and then at the end... it's not? That's not really good enough for me.

[Zeromus_X]

I'd say more like halfway through the game, when the monsters are actually smarter than 'lol I will die in three hits! kill 47 of us for massive chain!!11' and have rather devastating attacks.

Although the boss battles are very interesting.

[The Summoner of Leviathan]

I just defeated Shemhazai. It was easy, I literally hacked and slashed the majority of my way through. I had Fran cast Bubble and Decoy on Balthier. Had gambits set up for healing, used the occaisonal Echo Herb/Vox and disabled black magic gambits since she changes her weakness and absrobs all else. I was surprised how easy it was. I mean after all, I did not even have to use a Mist Chain or anything. Though I did cast Dispel at the beginning to get rid of any magic she might have had.

I find that as I go along the bosses are getting easier, though it might have been due to being underleveled early on in the game.

[Lexy]

I thought Larsa was a girl, too. They don't refer to him with a gender specific pronoun until after you already know he is Larsa, so I was suprised. When Vaan like, put his arm on him before they entered the Lhusu mines and said something like, 'I don't know what's in there but we'll protect you' (my memory is bad but something like that), and then Balthier and Basch looked at him as if to say "what a duchebag", I thought Vaan was hitting on him, confirming in my mind that it was a girl. That was a wierd scene.
Anyway, this game is so good. I am reading stuff people wrote here and elsewhere and it sounds like it's really hard for everyone to put this game down. I have never wanted to play any FF for more than like 3 or 4 hours in a sitting, but XII has become my primary activity. Somehow they've made developing your characters endlessly fun. I'm just amazed. And when I'm not playing it (like now when I am at stupid skool) I'm still thinking about it. That's crazy to me.
Soundtrack is awesome. I absolutely love it.
Balthier is insanely hot. He is always my party leader because I love looking at him. Basch very hot, too.
Battle system is awesome. I don't know how I lived with traditional old styled battles for so long.
Voice acting is really good. Basch specifically is excellent, but what's with some of the npc's voices- it's like they try to sneak in a Scottish accent wherever they can.
Does the story actually make sense? I'm assuming it does, but I'm not getting it. I don't mind at all, though.
I LOVE the bestiary. That's probably the single dorkiest sentence I've ever written, but the bestiary is really well written- the detailed information and lore add some delightful character to the game and remind me of Tactics.

[Zeromus_X]

Also, if I haven't solicited it enough, you can get a clue of Omega Mark XII if you read the description for the Urutan-Yensa. :cat:

[Jigsaw]

I like the License board but I'm disappointed that you don't get any moogles to join your party.

[Serpentarius]

I love!!!! traditional old style battles, they are the best.

[zimdoomyday]

I haven't been this disappointed since my ex left me.

Embarrassingly slow battle system, and wtf is up with the graphics? I've seen bad, but this is just terrible.

[Cruise Control]

Well, get some swiftness augments. Thats the only way to keep up after you hit 1/4 through. So, shortly, the battle speed picks up.

Do you even have eyes?

[Orophin]

When Vaan like, put his arm on him before they entered the Lhusu mines and said something like, 'I don't know what's in there but we'll protect you' (my memory is bad but something like that), and then Balthier and Basch looked at him as if to say "what a duchebag", I thought Vaan was hitting on him, confirming in my mind that it was a girl. That was a wierd scene.


Lol, you got it all wrong, just before that scene, Balthier said to not tell their names because the imperials were there. When they met Larsa, Vaan say 'I don't know what's in there but we'll protect you, right Basch?' If an Imperial would have heard this, they would be caught. That's why they reacted like this.

[Lexy]

I haven't been this disappointed since my ex left me.

Embarrassingly slow battle system, and wtf is up with the graphics? I've seen bad, but this is just terrible.

I think you're probably joking, but if you're not, then I think you probably have left the battle speed to the slowest setting (pretty sure the default is the slowest speed). One of the first things I did was immediately change the speed setting to the fastest setting- the battles are very fast paced; during some battles with many enemies I've had to set it down a few notches to keep up.
And I am sure you are joking about the graphics.

Also- I guess I did misunderstand the meaning of the scene outside of Lhusu mines. Thanks for explaining. :choc:

[Dell]

So for the majority of the game it's just thwack thwack thwack and then at the end... it's not? That's not really good enough for me.

No, it changes in the middle of the game. Monster will start casting Silence, Slow, Sap, Confuse, Oil, Petrify, Blind and Poison status causing you to heal that. If you can't afford Esuna, you can use Poisona, Blindna, Vox, Stona, Regen, Haste and Dispel.


So I was looking at the license board today and there are a BUNCH of spells that I never use because there's never really any time to use them. Things like Slow and Haste don't come in handy at all when you're just running around fighting because basically it's just thwack thwack and the monsters dies.

Having a bunch of spell that is not used yet is good. You can create more tactic/strategy.

Slow and Haste are very useful. Haste act as a counter to Slow, while majority of the bosses/monsters are not immune to Slow. You have to use Haste, because some attacks from normal monster causes Slow. IF you are in critical state and your enemy are also in critical state, you can use Balance to inflict damage, Equipping Ruby Ring allow you to abuse Reflect effect, Immobilize and Disable are disaster when combine, if you are caught fighting with a lot of enemies, you can always use this to give some time for healing (Time Magicks). You can't attack flying enemies with normal attack, unless if you have long-ranged weapon, so you need to use Black Magicks, the best Black Magic can do quite a damage and hit all enemies, also reflectable, so Reflect do the tricks. If you're losing your MP, you can always use Syphon to absorbs MP, if enemies attack are too strong, you can use Bubble to double Max HP and Reverse to convert damage into healing (Arcane Magicks). White Magicks is savior, Cure/ra/ga/ja ensure your safety, Raise and Arise revive character. Dispel can be used to remove beneficial status. Regen can heal Sap, while Cleanse heal Disease, Esuna heals a lot of status. Whe fighting boss, Protect and Shell helps a lot, also Bravery and Faith. Some bosses are not immune to some status like Silence, Blind etc. so use them at full potential (Green Magicks). Technicks like Steal, Libra, Charge, Poach and Achilles is very useful, Addle, Shear, Wither and Expose act as Stat Breaks.

[zimdoomyday]

I haven't been this disappointed since my ex left me.

Embarrassingly slow battle system, and wtf is up with the graphics? I've seen bad, but this is just terrible.

I think you're probably joking, but if you're not, then I think you probably have left the battle speed to the slowest setting (pretty sure the default is the slowest speed). One of the first things I did was immediately change the speed setting to the fastest setting- the battles are very fast paced; during some battles with many enemies I've had to set it down a few notches to keep up.
And I am sure you are joking about the graphics.

Also- I guess I did misunderstand the meaning of the scene outside of Lhusu mines. Thanks for explaining. :choc:

I had the battlest set on fastest and active. It's like "wait...wait....wait...ATTACK....wait...wait...wait CURE" And you can't dodge attacks or anything, you're stuck just sitting there waiting for something to happen. I mean, I know the old FFs were like that, but you could strategize a little bit. Like it was more round-based so you could cast cure, have another guy use Firaga, another summon Bahamut and then the last attack. To do that in this would, it would take forever. Put me to sleep.

And yes, the graphics really are bad. Whole pixel holes in between each one.

[Zeromus_X]

I believe you need to get your eyes examined if you think the graphics in this game are poor.

[MurderfaceX3]

I agree with Zeromus X!