PS3 launched!

[Fatal Impurity]

i was surfing play asia and you never guess what i saw! a japanese PS3 for sale! apparently the PS3 was released on november 11th (remembrance day) and will be released in america on friday! just to confirm these dates and the realease (ive been jerked around by many websites trying to sell me unrealeased consoles) i trotted over to wikipedia and this is what it said


Launch
The PlayStation 3 was released in Japan on November 11, 2006 at 0700. At Bic Camera's Tokyo flagship store more than 1,000 customers queued up for launch, with staff and police having to keep control.[37][38] Furthermore there were reports that the launch was disorganised with many of the initial consoles being obtained by businessmen who paid mainly Chinese nationals to buy the console without any software,[38] to resell on eBay. The PlayStation 3 will be released in North America on November 17, 2006. Ken Kutaragi has stated that the PlayStation 3 will launch on March 7, 2007 in Europe. According to Gamespot.com 88,400 PS3 systems were sold in Japan during the launch. Playstation 3 launch was also hampered by shortages in Japan.([3])

Sony recently announced to retailers like Gamestop that for the American release, stores would only get between 200,000 - 250,000 units rather than the 400,000 they promised would ship for launch day.[39] Gamestop/EB and other retailers have responded by placing embargoes on employee pre-ordered purchases, trying to free up as many units as possible to avoid irate pre-order customers angry at not receiving promised goods.

[Roto13]

http://www.sendspace.com/file/u9kb22

^^^ PS3 instruction manual. (I think this is within the rules)

[Darkja]

neat. sadly i'm gonna have to wait abit to get one.. kinda short on funds atm. :crying:

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[Mirage]

Not unlike Sony then, Darkja. :)

[Yew-Yevon]

:kaocheer: :kaocheer: my congrats to sony on the Launch :kaocheer: :kaocheer:

[Dreddz]

Its hard to believe the PS3 has already launched, but props to Sony for giving a fairly good launch, even though its nothing but havoc down every electronic store...

[Roto13]

fairly good launch

What?

[Dreddz]

fairly good launch

What?

A launch is never good, I know, but in comparison to every other launch the PS3 didnt do that bad.

[Roto13]

fairly good launch

What?

A launch is never good, I know, but in comparison to every other launch the PS3 didnt do that bad.

Shortages aren't bad?

[JKTrix]

Nope, if there are less units to buy, it's easy to say 'all sold out!', which equals success apparently. Ask Microsoft.

[Old Manus]

JKTrix stole my post. The 360 'shortage' was allegedly engineered to increase demand.

[Shoeberto]

The face of success. (http://www.kotaku.com/gaming/top/foreigners-and-fights-ps3-jpn-launchs-dark-side-214130.php)

[jubjub13]

I already pre-ordered mine.:D It should be at my doorstep this weekend.:up:

Only problem is that I have no games.:sad:

[Mirage]

:kaocheer: :kaocheer: my congrats to sony on the Launch :kaocheer: :kaocheer:
Why are you praising them? They don't deserve it.

[Dreddz]

:kaocheer: :kaocheer: my congrats to sony on the Launch :kaocheer: :kaocheer:
Why are you praising them? They don't deserve it.

Sony have worked hard for the PS3, they have had to sit through a ton a crap about their console. Having a successful launch is what they deserve.

[Rase]

Sony recently announced to retailers like Gamestop that for the American release, stores would only get between 200,000 - 250,000 units rather than the 400,000 they promised would ship for launch day.[39] Gamestop/EB and other retailers have responded by placing embargoes on employee pre-ordered purchases, trying to free up as many units as possible to avoid irate pre-order customers angry at not receiving promised goods.

I kinda want to go down to my local EB Games on Friday and see if a riot happens. Unfortunately, my town isn't that big, so the odds aren't likely.

[Mirage]

:kaocheer: :kaocheer: my congrats to sony on the Launch :kaocheer: :kaocheer:
Why are you praising them? They don't deserve it.

Sony have worked hard for the PS3, they have had to sit through a ton a crap about their console. Having a successful launch is what they deserve.
Doesn't change the fact that they treat their customers like /xxx.gif/xxx.gif/xxx.gif/xxx.gif. Not just talking about the Playstation now.

[MecaKane]

I'm sure the person praising Sony was aiming it more generally at their video game division, not the music or TV, or walkman, or whichever segment of the company that you're mad at.

[JaytodaP]

tomorrow, me and my friend are going to Wal Mart, K-Mart, Best Buy, and gamestop, just to screw around with all the campers. Like cut them (even though we're not getting any), instigate fights, and whatever else we could think of. We did it last year for 360. we instigated a few fights which was absolutly hilarious. People were throwing hissy fits!

[RiseToFall]

^ You are one cool kid.

[Mirage]

Oh Kane, I'm talking about the company in its entirety. Also, I'm not mad, I just don't think they deserve any praise.

[Shaun]

I've heard that Japanese bums were also paid to stand in the queue. That's just wrong. With Sony's actions towards Lik-Sang and the way they've treated us in general, I couldn't give a rat's ass about them anymore. Of course, casual gamers won't know of their arrogance and Sony will likely be triumphant. Nintendo Wii for me anyway.

[Fatal Impurity]

I've heard that Japanese bums were also paid to stand in the queue. That's just wrong. With Sony's actions towards Lik-Sang and the way they've treated us in general, I couldn't give a rat's ass about them anymore. Of course, casual gamers won't know of their arrogance and Sony will likely be triumphant. Nintendo Wii for me anyway.

thats the way of the world today theres just no justice.....at least nintendo work for thier money and give you a good solid working piece of hardware that doesnt mess up (ive never heard of any nintendo consoles just randomly breaking down but its a regular thing with the Playstations and Xbox's) the only problem is that nintendo doesnt have alot of 3rd party support which means very few games....and you also have the problem that they never reduce the price of thier games....

[Shaun]

They've got loads of third-party support! Look at the Wii's launch - best ever? Furthermore, consider Xbox 360 games going at £50 each initially. Wii games are far cheaper. Let's make this thread about the Wii, because we all love the Wii far more than the PS3. :)

[jubjub13]

Does the PS3 play PS2/PSX games? I know it uses blue-ray, but i don't know if it also uses the old disc system.

[Dreddz]

Does the PS3 play PS2/PSX games? I know it uses blue-ray, but i don't know if it also uses the old disc system.

Yes it does, but there are reports that there have been a few problems with some of the games. Around 200 or so, but they should be fixed in later updates on the system Sony said.

[jubjub13]

Sweeet! That means i will actually be able to use my PS3 when I get it!:lol:

[fantasyjunkie]

tomorrow, me and my friend are going to Wal Mart, K-Mart, Best Buy, and gamestop, just to screw around with all the campers. Like cut them (even though we're not getting any), instigate fights, and whatever else we could think of. We did it last year for 360. we instigated a few fights which was absolutly hilarious. People were throwing hissy fits!

ROFL!!!!!!!!!!!! I'm actually laughing out loud in fromt of the comp :D .
That's classic!
I want a PS3 but I'm gonna wait till late next year when I can walk into the store and sell my left arm to make the layaway payments :(

[Dreddz]

Sweeet! That means i will actually be able to use my PS3 when I get it!:lol:

You might as well wait until there's games you want for the system, or at least wait for a price drop and less high demand.

[RiseToFall]

PS3 just sold on Ebay $3,300. I will never understand these fucking people.

[Timerk]

Sony have worked hard for the PS3, they have had to sit through a ton a crap about their console. Having a successful launch is what they deserve.

Sony deserves to have someone drive a truck into their building.

The Circuit City down the street from me has 10 PS3's.

10.

[Roto13]

My friend pre-ordered six so he could scalp them. I say more power to him.

[Fatal Impurity]

My friend pre-ordered six so he could scalp them. I say more power to him.

Ahhhh such precious profit from such precious morons.....:love:

[Roto13]

My friend pre-ordered six so he could scalp them. I say more power to him.

Ahhhh such precious profit from such precious morons.....:love:

I know. If I had any money, I'd do it.

[Rase]

If I had any money, I'd do it.
Took the words right out of my mouth.

[Loony BoB]

My friend pre-ordered six so he could scalp them. I say more power to him.

Ahhhh such precious profit from such precious morons.....:love:
Yeah, those guys with millions of dollars are clearly more stupid than us folk sitting at home not doing much of significance to further ourselves in a world often dicated by cash. Boy, I bet they feel silly now.

[Roto13]

Well, he's likely to get over $16,000 ($3,300 per system, minus the $600 he'll pay for each) for about an hour of work. The people he'll sell them to probably don't make $16,000 per hour.

[Fatal Impurity]

actually the average selling price is $1,000 - $2,000 each so the person who bought one for $3,300 paid more than even the average scalping price.....THEY BE MORONS!!!

[RiseToFall]

$1000-2000? Maybe for the ones that were just put on ebay. The ones that are close to selling are going for $2500+

Wait until Christmas, some will sell for more.

[Roto13]

I told him to save a few for Chirstmas, yeah. Just to see if people are willing to pay, like, a zillion dollars for one.

[Orophin]

http://img386.imageshack.us/img386/2576/awwwwwlg9.png

:eek:

66 millions for a PS3!

[MecaKane]

Well, he's likely to get over $16,000 ($3,300 per system, minus the $600 he'll pay for each) for about an hour of work. The people he'll sell them to probably don't make $16,000 per hour.
Making 16,000 dollars in an hour doesn't mean you make $16,000 an hour. That whole day, or even week he's not likely to make a significant amount more than that.


Sony have worked hard for the PS3, they have had to sit through a ton a crap about their console. Having a successful launch is what they deserve.

Sony deserves to have someone drive a truck into their building.

The Circuit City down the street from me has 10 PS3's.

10.
The only fault of Sony's for that is their production fuckups, if they could sell more they would.

[Roto13]

Well, he's likely to get over $16,000 ($3,300 per system, minus the $600 he'll pay for each) for about an hour of work. The people he'll sell them to probably don't make $16,000 per hour.
Making 16,000 dollars in an hour doesn't mean you make $16,000 an hour. That whole day, or even week he's not likely to make a significant amount more than that.

He's 20 and he has $3600 to spend on PS3s. I think he's doing ok.

[jubjub13]

Did anyone here camp out at Best Buy or even Wal-Mart just to be in line to get a PS3? We had people at Wal-Mart that I knew from school camping out for three days! I know someone who skipped school for four days to save a spot for someone else, he was getting paid $50 a day to save it.:up: I say good idea for easy money at a low cost.

[Roto13]

I dunno, $50 for a whole day doesn't seem like very much.

[MecaKane]

Well, he's likely to get over $16,000 ($3,300 per system, minus the $600 he'll pay for each) for about an hour of work. The people he'll sell them to probably don't make $16,000 per hour.
Making 16,000 dollars in an hour doesn't mean you make $16,000 an hour. That whole day, or even week he's not likely to make a significant amount more than that.

He's 20 and he has $3600 to spend on PS3s. I think he's doing ok.

If PS3 launched over the summer I would've been able to do that too, especially when I'm certain(unless stores change their policies for the launch and won't let you return an unopened one for a refund, and /xxx.gif/xxx.gif/xxx.gif/xxx.gif even if it wasn't a refund a $3600 credit at Futureshop is practically a savings account to me. :D) to make at least 100% of my money back. And if you added my weekly salary onto sixteen grand, it wouldn't look much better.

[Hawkeye]

I saw the fan boys outside Target last night too. I wanted to beat them up for their stupidity. Then a car ran them over and I felt better and slept like a baby later in the night.

[Jessweeee♪]

Some people got shot x.x

[Ouch!]

Retarded. (http://cgi.ebay.com/PRE-SALE-SONY-PLAYSTATION3-PS3-PRESALE-60GB-CONSOLE_W0QQitemZ330047524577QQihZ014QQcategoryZ62054QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem)

[Elite Lord Sigma]

Retarded. (http://cgi.ebay.com/PRE-SALE-SONY-PLAYSTATION3-PS3-PRESALE-60GB-CONSOLE_W0QQitemZ330047524577QQihZ014QQcategoryZ62054QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem)My faith in the intelligence of the human race has just dropped to an all-time low.

[MecaKane]

Retarded. (http://cgi.ebay.com/PRE-SALE-SONY-PLAYSTATION3-PS3-PRESALE-60GB-CONSOLE_W0QQitemZ330047524577QQihZ014QQcategoryZ62054QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem)My faith in the intelligence of the human race has just dropped to an all-time low.

Did you guys miss this post?

Yeah, those guys with millions of dollars are clearly more stupid than us folk sitting at home not doing much of significance to further ourselves in a world often dicated by cash. Boy, I bet they feel silly now.

[Ouch!]

No, I read that post.

Still doesn't make it any less retarded. I don't care who you are, $9,100 is a ridiculous sum of money for a freakin' gaming console, and a pre-sale, no less. Even if that kind of money is just pocket change to someone, it's still dumb as hell.

[Roto13]

If you have more money than God, it's still stupid to pay pay sixteen times the asking price for a faulty piece of hardware.

EDIT: 'Sup Ouch

[MecaKane]

No, I read that post.

Still doesn't make it any less retarded. I don't care who you are, $9,100 is a ridiculous sum of money for a freakin' gaming console, and a pre-sale, no less. Even if that kind of money is just pocket change to someone, it's still dumb as hell.

Why? How is doing something dumb if it has no negative consequences for you?
"Oh, I don't have 10 grand anymore.
Oh look I just made 20 grand this week!
People on the internet must be jealous of me!"

Oh, by the way. That computer you're posting on; People in Africa can't believe you'd ever be so stupid to spend any sum of money on it, or anything but food for that matter. :love:

[Ouch!]

Oh, by the way. That computer you're posting on; People in Africa can't believe you'd ever be so stupid to spend any sum of money on it, or anything but food for that matter. :love:
Touché.

[Fatal Impurity]

They can spend thier money on whatever they want if they have the money what i dont get is when people are taking out second morgage's on thier houses just to get a PS3 from Ebay....

[Setzer Gabianni]

I am LOOKING FORWARD to getting a PS3 when it comes out in the UK. I couldn't give a flying fuck what you anti-PS3 people think. I was considering buying a wii, but after seeing what comments people have directed at me and other people over the past few months, maybe not directly but indirectly, it can wait. PS3 FTW. FTW.

~Setzer Gabianni

[Nasarian Altimeros]

Wait, so you're going to buy a PS3 because everyone says the PS3 sucks?

Logic ftw.

[Firo Volondé]

I can't be bothered trying to compete with the fan-people, or shell out hundreds of dollars on a PS3 when there are still plenty of good games for PS2 I haven't played yet. (XII hasn't even come out yet internationally) I can afford to wait a few years, until PS3's are relatively cheap. Bargains ftw.

[Setzer Gabianni]

Wait, so you're going to buy a PS3 because everyone says the PS3 sucks?

Logic ftw.

ffs, NO.

I decided a long time ago I was going to buy a PS3 because I actually wanted one. You got that now? :rolleyes2
Maybe you should read the first line in my previous post. I'm LOOKING FORWARD TO GETTING A PS3.

~Setzer Gabianni

[Nasarian Altimeros]

I read the first sentence. Funnily enough, it was the second, third and fourth that implied you were looking foward to it out of spite.

[Setzer Gabianni]

I guess I should explain those sentences more:

I couldn't give a flying smurf what you anti-PS3 people think.

I enjoy Sony games made on the PS2, so why shouldn't I get a PS3?

I was considering buying a wii, but after seeing what comments people have directed at me and other people over the past few months, maybe not directly but indirectly, it can wait.[b]

I am a Nintendo fan, and because of some of the good titles I heard coming out for it, I thought, hey, may as well get one. But no. Changed my mind. I'm not buying a PS3 first out of spite, I just don't appreciate people going on and on at me for wanting to have a console that I enjoy gaming on - Playstation consoles never let me down before so..
I also had a think about my GameCube. Never did like it as much as the PS2 - even though I enjoy going it, my game collection has never been that high. I reckon I'd get more out of the PS3 personally.

[b] PS3 FTW. FTW.

This was mainly to show:
1) I am a proud supporter of the PS3
2) ..don't think there any other points atm.

~Setzer Gabianni

[Madame Adequate]

I wish I had the money/contacts to scalp a PS3 for a few grand.

Still, aside from Resistance it doesn't look like there's too much going on on PS3 yet.

And if I were a videogame store employee I would be pissed right about now.

[Mirage]

I guess I should explain those sentences more:

I couldn't give a flying smurf what you anti-PS3 people think.

I enjoy Sony games made on the PS2, so why shouldn't I get a PS3?

I was considering buying a wii, but after seeing what comments people have directed at me and other people over the past few months, maybe not directly but indirectly, it can wait.[b]

I am a Nintendo fan, and because of some of the good titles I heard coming out for it, I thought, hey, may as well get one. But no. Changed my mind. I'm not buying a PS3 first out of spite, I just don't appreciate people going on and on at me for wanting to have a console that I enjoy gaming on - Playstation consoles never let me down before so..
I also had a think about my GameCube. Never did like it as much as the PS2 - even though I enjoy going it, my game collection has never been that high. I reckon I'd get more out of the PS3 personally.

[b] PS3 FTW. FTW.

This was mainly to show:
1) I am a proud supporter of the PS3
2) ..don't think there any other points atm.

~Setzer Gabianni
What Sony-made games are you thinking of? The Gran Turismo series?

[MecaKane]

I never played the Socom, or Kill Zone games, but God of War, and Shadow of the Colossus, were good enough to paint a picture of Sony games being of high quality.

[BlackChocobo]

I give the PS3 6 months to a year until sony pulls the plug. The worst thing about it is that you cant play any PS1 or PS2 games on it.

[fantasyjunkie]

I don't have anything against Sony. I like Sony. I liked my PS1 and I love my PS2. I would love to get a PS3.But it's simple economics. I'm married with a kid and cannot afford $600 no matter how good a deal it is. And that's before an extra controller and any games.It took me months of saving and arguing with my wife just to get the 360. $250 for the Wii, which is getting good reviews? That's the road I'm going down.

[Mirage]

I never played the Socom, or Kill Zone games, but God of War, and Shadow of the Colossus, were good enough to paint a picture of Sony games being of high quality.
Maybe, but I don't think those were what Setzer had in mind. I think he's mixing the company who makes the hardware with the third party developers. That's also why I'm looking an answer from Setzer, not of you.


I give the PS3 6 months to a year until sony pulls the plug. The worst thing about it is that you cant play any PS1 or PS2 games on it.

Oh, you mean about as long as the PS2 then, right? What exactly is your point with that statement?

[BlackChocobo]

Oh, you mean about as long as the PS2 then, right? What exactly is your point with that statement?
My point is that it will bomb, not everyone has $600 to spare for a console and +$70 games add that to the fact the PS3 cant play PS1 or PS2 games and you've got yourself a bad deal. I like the PS1 and the PS2 but this was just a bad idea this is how Sega bombed when they released the Sega Saturn.

[Loony BoB]

As far as I'm aware, the PS3 will be able to play both PS1 and PS2 games, although there are a small amount of them that are buggy and not yet compatible - but it's a small percentage.

EDIT: http://news.yahoo.com/s/zd/20061115/tc_zd/194144

Where are you getting your information, dude? Someone's feeding you incorrect stuff.

[Rase]

To add to what BoB said, the games will not cost you $70+ each (http://www.engadget.com/2006/09/26/sony-announces-ps3-game-prices-for-us-59-99/). As with the Xbox 360, games for the PS3 will average at $59.99, depending on the publisher and the game.

[Old Manus]

GO PS3! FIGHT THE POWER!

[Mirage]

Oh, you mean about as long as the PS2 then, right? What exactly is your point with that statement?
My point is that it will bomb, not everyone has $600 to spare for a console and +$70 games add that to the fact the PS3 cant play PS1 or PS2 games and you've got yourself a bad deal. I like the PS1 and the PS2 but this was just a bad idea this is how Sega bombed when they released the Sega Saturn.

Clearly, enough people can afford the PS3 so far, every one of them is sold out!
When those who can afford it for 600 all have it, the price will drop.
Furthermore, backwards compatibility is far from the most important thing with the PS3. I already have 3 machines that can play my PS1 games, and 1 that can play my PS2 games.

[Fatal Impurity]

backwards compatibility is probably the most important thing to me...but as always im gonna get a PS3 JUST because of FF13....it was the same with the PS2 and FF10 i just hope that the 13's arent as disappointing as FF10 and 10-2 were....

[BlackChocobo]

As far as I'm aware, the PS3 will be able to play both PS1 and PS2 games, although there are a small amount of them that are buggy and not yet compatible - but it's a small percentage.

EDIT: http://news.yahoo.com/s/zd/20061115/tc_zd/194144

Where are you getting your information, dude? Someone's feeding you incorrect stuff.
Thats not a small percentage, 8,000 games is alot and thats for just PS2 games alone who knows how many more PS1 games the PS3 cant play.



Clearly, enough people can afford the PS3 so far, every one of them is sold out!
The same thing happened to the Sega Saturn and the 3DOC when they launched. Most of the people who bought the PS3 so far are either rich kids or gamers in their 20's who have jobs. When the PS3 starts to become avalible and kids and teenagers (who make up a big part of the market mind you) cant afford them and their parents arnt willing to buy it for them then the sales will begin to slip. I remember just how much hype there was for the Saturn before and during launch but then as the time passed it just died. The same thing that killed Sega is going to kill Sony in the gaming market.




When those who can afford it for 600 all have it, the price will drop.
And how long will that be? It took Sony about two years to drop the price of their PS2.


Furthermore, backwards compatibility is far from the most important thing with the PS3. I already have 3 machines that can play my PS1 games, and 1 that can play my PS2 games.
I disagree, imagine how pissed off anyone here would be if they sold their PS2 and PS1 and bought a PS3 and then tried to play FFVII on it and then it doesnt work? I'd get pissed if I spent $600 on something that isnt backwards capable.

[Loony BoB]

Thats not a small percentage, 8,000 games is alot and thats for just PS2 games alone who knows how many more PS1 games the PS3 cant play.
There are over 7,900 PS1 titles and over 8,100 PS2 titles. That's a total of 16,000 games. Of those, 100-200 have reported bugs - keep in mind that could be even the smallest of bugs - and those bugs are being worked on and for all I know, that news story I linked in my last post means that some of these have already been corrected. Let's assume that they haven't been corrected - not a single one of them - in the latest firmware update for PS3 though. And we'll also say that a full 200 games have bugs, despite it being somewhere under 200 (between 100 and 200). That would mean 200 out of 16,000 games have the slightest of bugs. That's 1.25% - a small percentage as far as I'm concerned. And it's more than likely that at least 50 of them are still playable and another 50 were corrected in the last firmware update. Closer to 0.625%, then. Seriously, man. If you think that "only" having 15,800 of the previous generation games is 'not backwards compatible' then you're supplying incorrect information, because over 98% of the time, the games will work just fine. Probably closer to 99%.


Clearly, enough people can afford the PS3 so far, every one of them is sold out!
The same thing happened to the Sega Saturn and the 3DOC when they launched. Most of the people who bought the PS3 so far are either rich kids or gamers in their 20's who have jobs. When the PS3 starts to become avalible and kids and teenagers (who make up a big part of the market mind you) cant afford them and their parents arnt willing to buy it for them then the sales will begin to slip. I remember just how much hype there was for the Saturn before and during launch but then as the time passed it just died. The same thing that killed Sega is going to kill Sony in the gaming market.
You won't know this is going to happen until it happens. So far, it's far, far, far too early to say how big a price decrease will be and also far too early to say which it will follow - Sega Saturn or Sony PS2. The argument that it is doing just as well as Sega Saturn did is a poor one, and the argument that it is doing just as well as Sony PS2 did is also a poor one. They both negate each other. All it tells us is that we don't know what will happen until roughly half a year after it launches.


When those who can afford it for 600 all have it, the price will drop.
And how long will that be? It took Sony about two years to drop the price of their PS2.
So? Still sold more than any other console in history.


Furthermore, backwards compatibility is far from the most important thing with the PS3. I already have 3 machines that can play my PS1 games, and 1 that can play my PS2 games.
I disagree, imagine how pissed off anyone here would be if they sold their PS2 and PS1 and bought a PS3 and then tried to play FFVII on it and then it doesnt work? I'd get pissed if I spent $600 on something that isnt backwards capable.
Then it's your own damned fault for selling your PS2 before buying a PS3. That's just a stupid thing to do, plain and simple. Logic says that you find out if your games work on the new console before you sell the old one. Furthermore, it's notable that the PS2 isn't any more backwards compatible than the PS3 is, and the PS2 was massively successful. However, newer versions of the PS2, notably the slimline one, appear to play a lot of them fine - this shows that Sony worked to get more PS1 games to work on the PS2 over the years. Sony will probably continue to keep this in their mind and do the same for the PS3. The difference? Firmware updates mean you don't need to buy the whole console all over again!

[Raistlin]

Thats not a small percentage, 8,000 games is alot and thats for just PS2 games alone who knows how many more PS1 games the PS3 cant play.

Do you even read the articles? It clearly said over 8,000 games work on the PS3.

I'm having trouble figuring out if you're just a troll or not.

[Mirage]

Clearly, enough people can afford the PS3 so far, every one of them is sold out!
The same thing happened to the Sega Saturn and the 3DOC when they launched. Most of the people who bought the PS3 so far are either rich kids or gamers in their 20's who have jobs. When the PS3 starts to become avalible and kids and teenagers (who make up a big part of the market mind you) cant afford them and their parents arnt willing to buy it for them then the sales will begin to slip. I remember just how much hype there was for the Saturn before and during launch but then as the time passed it just died. The same thing that killed Sega is going to kill Sony in the gaming market.
Did you know that the average gamer is over 20 years old?

[BlackChocobo]

There are over 7,900 PS1 titles and over 8,100 PS2 titles.
Great so that number makes up almost every PS2 game.


That's a total of 16,000 games. Of those, 100-200 have reported bugs - keep in mind that could be even the smallest of bugs - and those bugs are being worked on and for all I know, that news story I linked in my last post means that some of these have already been corrected. Let's assume that they haven't been corrected - not a single one of them - in the latest firmware update for PS3 though. And we'll also say that a full 200 games have bugs, despite it being somewhere under 200 (between 100 and 200). That would mean 200 out of 16,000 games have the slightest of bugs. That's 1.25% - a small percentage as far as I'm concerned. And it's more than likely that at least 50 of them are still playable and another 50 were corrected in the last firmware update. Closer to 0.625%, then. Seriously, man. If you think that "only" having 15,800 of the previous generation games is 'not backwards compatible' then you're supplying incorrect information, because over 98% of the time, the games will work just fine. Probably closer to 99%.
Sonys spokesman himself said that 8,000 games were malfunctioning and didnt even mention if they were going to fix them or not.
http://articles.news.aol.com/business/_a/playstation-3-not-playing-some-older/20061114061909990005?ncid=NWS00010000000001



So? Still sold more than any other console in history.
So what? My point is that a price decrease wont be coming around soon and even if it did it would still be around $400 for a 60GB.


Then it's your own damned fault for selling your PS2 before buying a PS3. That's just a stupid thing to do, plain and simple. Logic says that you find out if your games work on the new console before you sell the old one.
If the manufacture claims that the PS3 is backwards compatible then I like any other consumer am going to take their word for it. How is it my falt if the manufacture told me the system could do something and then ends up not being capable of peforming what they claim it could.


Furthermore, it's notable that the PS2 isn't any more backwards compatible than the PS3 is,
and the PS2 was massively successful. However, newer versions of the PS2, notably the slimline one, appear to play a lot of them fine - this shows that Sony worked to get more PS1 games to work on the PS2 over the years.
Wrong again the PS2 had no problems playing PS1 games I never had a problem with any PS1 game on the PS2 and I never heard anyone complaining about problems with PS1 games on the PS2. It was fully backwards compatible from my and many other peoples experience with it.


Sony will probably continue to keep this in their mind and do the same for the PS3. The difference? Firmware updates mean you don't need to buy the whole console all over again!
Who knows or maybe they'll just cheap out and ignore the problem. Considering its blue ray it might be hard to play other CDs on it in the first place.




Thats not a small percentage, 8,000 games is alot and thats for just PS2 games alone who knows how many more PS1 games the PS3 cant play.

Do you even read the articles? It clearly said over 8,000 games work on the PS3.

I'm having trouble figuring out if you're just a troll or not.
Did you read?


But Sony Computer Entertainment spokesman Satoshi Fukuoka said some of the 8,000 older games weren't working properly on PS3, making the wrong sounds or images, and some couldn't be played at all.
From that article and this article http://articles.news.aol.com/business/_a/playstation-3-not-playing-some-older/20061114061909990005?ncid=NWS00010000000001 .

[Mirage]

But Sony Computer Entertainment spokesman Satoshi Fukuoka said some of the 8,000 older games weren't working properly on PS3, making the wrong sounds or images, and some couldn't be played at all.



Did you read?
I think you need to ask yourself that question.

[Loony BoB]

Some info for BlackChocobo...

A handful of PlayStation titles (notably Metal Gear Solid: Special Missions) fail to run on the PS2 at all (Special Missions fails to recognise Metal Gear Solid at the disk swap screen, for example). This problem appears to have been rectified in the slimline versions of the PS2, where most of the previously unplayable PS one games can now be played.

Sony stated every PlayStation and PlayStation 2 game that observes its respective system's TRC (Technical Requirements Checklist) will be playable on PS3 at launch. SCE president Ken Kutaragi asked developers to adhere to the TRC to facilitate compatibility with future PlayStations, stating that the company was having some difficulty getting backward compatibility with games that had not followed the TRCs. It has been confirmed (image) that initial PS3 units will include the CPU/rasterizer combination chip used in slim PS2 (EE+GS) to achieve backward compatibility.[51] Two days after the release of the PlayStation 3 in Japan, Sony announced that some titles had big problems, mostly with sound playback.[52] It has also been reported that some scenes from the Gran Turismo racing game might freeze, the game Suikoden III cannot read data from a first-generation PlayStation, and a virtual gun in one of the Biohazard games will not fire properly.[53] Most of the 7841 titles in Sony's database work; future firmware updates will provide more compatibility. As of November 16, an online firmware upgrade has been posted by Sony that is intended to address some of these issues.[54] PlayStation and PlayStation 2 software will still be limited by region-locking and will not be enhanced or upscaled.[citation needed]

The PlayStation 3 does not include interfaces for legacy PlayStation devices, though IGN.com tested a legacy controller using a PS2-to-USB adapter, finding that it is compatible, though most other devices (such as the Guitar Hero controller) may not be compatible [55]. USB devices for PlayStation 2 may be compatible with PlayStation 3. A memory card adapter is available[1] so users can save their PS1/PS2 data[56] on to a virtual memory card in the hard drive. PlayStation 3 can use Memory Sticks to store save data for PlayStation and PlayStation 2 software.[57]
Both from Wikipedia.

[Spammerman]

Some people got shot x.x

Yup. Here in Connecticut some guy got shot at walmart while waiting in line for a PS3

[Slicksword45]

GO PS3! FIGHT THE POWER!

my thoughts exactly.

And black chocobo, I read through the artical, and it did not mention a number anywere

[Necronopticous]

[fantasyjunkie]

Now THAT"S a bodyguard!!!!!!!!!!!!! :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:

[Fatal Impurity]

http://www.forums.eyesonff.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=24379&d=1164076707

hehehehe! he's cunning i'll give him that but i bet all he really wants is to steal the shiny new black box you buy...instead of upper cutting other people he'll be upper cutting you!

[Roto13]

Now THAT'S (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=280050635902&ru=http%3A%2F%2Fsearch.ebay.com%3A80%2Fsearch%2Fsearch.dll%3Ffrom%3DR40%26satitle%3D280050635902%) a deal.

[fantasyjunkie]

$9.99? Roto I could not have possibly read that right! No, I must have read it wrong somehow :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:

[Zeromus_X]

Oh dear Jesus.

[RiseToFall]

Oh come on, that's BS.

[Fatal Impurity]

or some really dumbass seller...afterall it says that the seller ended the auction early...

[Samuraid]

I believe the selling price was $1250 as stated by the buy it now and the auction price was simply a precursor to the actual transaction.