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Nerevarine
11-15-2006, 09:28 PM
Alright yal,

I cant find anywhere about anyone completing this solo quest, and i'm thinkin bout doin one myself. Any one got any pointers? Anyone completeed this one before? I'm usin NES by the way.

Flying Mullet
11-15-2006, 09:43 PM
Several people have completed it before. It's challenging but not too bad. The beginning of the game can be tough and tedious (especially the pirates)as you only have single target spells so you have to take out one enemy at a time and you don't have the luxury of a high defense and hit points like a fighter does. Be prepared to buy a lot of healing potions to get through battles in the early part of your adventures. Once you get your level 3 spells, a.k.a. Lit2 and Fir2, life will get a whole lot easier.

Nerevarine
11-15-2006, 09:58 PM
ya i have read stuff about you havi extra shots of spells earlier and stuff but i have heard that the last ToF is a pain in the backside

Flying Mullet
11-15-2006, 10:08 PM
I think the last ToF is a pain for just about every solo challenge. :)

Martyr
11-16-2006, 12:24 AM
I never did this one, because after soloing Fighter and RM, I figured it'd be hard ut not hard enough. So I'm going to do the Thief, hardest, and be done with all my soloing.

However, i can't help but wonder if solo WM is even harder, because, seriously, cures would hardly be relevant after a while. And I'd have to kill astos with a 10g Hammer, and that's gotta be hard as a MUG.

I guess I'd have to FEAR Kary, and I've got no idea how to beat Kraken... Thor's Hammer and White Shirt? Oy.

Nerevarine
11-16-2006, 02:50 AM
well i have been playin it like ALL DAY!!!!!!!!!! and decided to retire for the night. but i did beat them pirates at level 15 with slep and fire/lit/ice shots. O and like 30 some potions.

would using the penninsula with the really strong monsters above Pravoka below Lefien top level up be cheating to yal?

Flying Mullet
11-16-2006, 12:45 PM
I don't considering it cheating. I usually go there to level up when I play. I don't see how it is cheating as it doesn't really "cheat", it just helps you level faster.

Ender
11-16-2006, 02:42 PM
would using the penninsula with the really strong monsters above Pravoka below Lefien top level up be cheating to yal?

It might be exploitation of a programming oversight, but in this case it's not anywhere close to cheating IMO. You have to beat the monsters regardless, and if you're beating them at lower levels when it's more difficult, that's an accomplishment in itself. I would only caution that you should be fair when describing your game if you level on the peninsula...IOW, be honest about how many times you bit the dust and had to reload.

It's one thing to say, "I beat the game with a solo black mage" and another to say "I beat the game with a solo black mage, but I should mention that I leveled up to level 25 on the peninsula and got killed about fifty times before I headed to the Marsh Cave."

Martyr
11-16-2006, 04:40 PM
well i have been playin it like ALL DAY!!!!!!!!!! and decided to retire for the night. but i did beat them pirates at level 15 with slep and fire/lit/ice shots. O and like 30 some potions.

would using the penninsula with the really strong monsters above Pravoka below Lefien top level up be cheating to yal?

15 for the pirates sounds like a little much. Aren't they practically weak against sleep?
Whatever. Just remember that using the peninsula to level is only cheating if you're also using Game Genie.
If you're using Game genie, You're also cheating if you don't go to the peninsula.

Black Mage FF1
11-16-2006, 05:33 PM
well i have been playin it like ALL DAY!!!!!!!!!! and decided to retire for the night. but i did beat them pirates at level 15 with slep and fire/lit/ice shots. O and like 30 some potions.

would using the penninsula with the really strong monsters above Pravoka below Lefien top level up be cheating to yal?

15 for the pirates sounds like a little much. Aren't they practically weak against sleep?
Whatever. Just remember that using the peninsula to level is only cheating if you're also using Game Genie.
If you're using Game genie, You're also cheating if you don't go to the peninsula.


On the PSX version that would be waaay to high. Because in the PSX version sleep keeps them asleep for more than 1 round. On the NES version, sleep is useless. So yeah, 15 sounds about right for a solo black mage. I dunno what level I was at when I first beat the pirates. But I know it was pretty high.

Martyr
11-16-2006, 07:23 PM
On the PSX version that would be waaay to high. Because in the PSX version sleep keeps them asleep for more than 1 round. On the NES version, sleep is useless. So yeah, 15 sounds about right for a solo black mage. I dunno what level I was at when I first beat the pirates. But I know it was pretty high.

I didn't know it only lasted one round. Wow. I'm sure I've had my characters asleep for more than one round, but I haven't tried using the sleep spell since, probably the first time I played because it was su useless.

And in the handbook, it said that sleep creamed 'em, and I've done it to them before, but I don't recall it ONLY working 1 round. But you probably know.

ImAFarmer
11-17-2006, 01:22 AM
would using the penninsula with the really strong monsters above Pravoka below Lefien top level up be cheating to yal?

It might be exploitation of a programming oversight

If it was, then it'd be removed a LONG time ago. It's still in DoS so I guess it's a feature now

Ender
11-17-2006, 03:37 PM
would using the penninsula with the really strong monsters above Pravoka below Lefien top level up be cheating to yal?

It might be exploitation of a programming oversight

If it was, then it'd be removed a LONG time ago.

It was a programming oversight. I don't know that for certain, but I'm pretty sure. I'm guessing it became "part of the game" when it became popular among the game's many fans as a place for early leveling, so they decided to keep it in later versions as one of the game's quirks (much like "spoony bard" was kept in later versions of FFIV even though it's a rather eccentric translation).

So to say that it wasn't a programming oversight because they left it in later versions, no, I'd say that's not necessarily the case. More likely IMO it was a programming oversight that they left in as a nod to the fans. So just because it's considered "official" now doesn't mean it was intended in the first place. And since I believe that in the original version that it was probably an exploit (though I think it's a grey area, and certainly don't consider it cheating), using it to level in later versions is probably exploiting the fact that they made a mistake way back when they made the original.

Martyr
11-17-2006, 04:06 PM
*Agrees with Ender*

Nerevarine
11-17-2006, 04:27 PM
ok well off to that penninsula i go

Martyr
11-17-2006, 04:54 PM
good luck finding Zombulls

Black Mage FF1
11-17-2006, 08:18 PM
If you want to make that peninsula even more cheap. Bring tents, save the game, shut it off and load it back up. The first fight you get into at the peninsula will be either a group of all zombulls or zombulls with bulls.

boys from the dwarf
11-18-2006, 09:37 PM
i dont like solo FF1 challenges because its usually just leveling up until your able to beat the boss. i tried it with a monk though so theres not much strategy involved. its just constant attacking and occasional healing.

mages should add more strategy to it. good luck.

Nerevarine
11-20-2006, 06:29 AM
astos is really being a very big thorn in the backside

i keep blastin fire at him but then he will RUB me or beat my weak beady eyed as to a little beady eyed pulp.

any advice veterans?

Martyr
11-20-2006, 06:34 AM
Everybody gives up on Astos. I haven't played my solo Thief because Astos creamed me at lv 19. I'm supposed to be lv 26 for him, but whatever.

YOU should use ICE2, not Fire 2.

Second, he unly uses RUB on the first round. If you survive it, then he shouldn't use it again for a while (Spells cast follow a cycle. He does something like RUb, SLOW, FAST, SLOW2, LIT2, FIRE2, RUB etc...)

And if you do solo, you need luck. That ICE2 has to do 80 damage twice, not 56, 70, 40, 30 or else you'll end up dead. That's the way it goes. But if you went to the 20s for pirates, you shouldn't have any trouble. You just have to wait for a chance when RUB fails.

Nerevarine
12-02-2006, 06:00 AM
Well yal i finished this dam thing.

only small parts of it were fun ill tell you that much.

Nah it alright but i definatly dont wanna do another one

Laddy
12-02-2006, 04:00 PM
I did, it was rough, but I got the best equipment I could get, and since I only had one character, I lvled up and got tons of money.