Not a good one

[TyphoonThaReapa]

Who in here, besides myself, thinks this is a very stupid one. It's diffenally not the worse. But it's not good either. :cry: <sign> They don't make FF games like they use to.

[Darkja]

i'm a little dissapointed but generally like it so far.. though i regret paying 60$ for the collector's edition. i actually haven't played it in a few days due to leveling boredom.

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[ValiantKnight]

From playing the demo only... it seems better than VII and VIII, equalish to IX, better than X, perhaps equal/less than IV and VI.

/shrug.

[LunarWeaver]

It has some bumps I don't like, but overall I think it's rather great.

Once again, I must say the "they don't make them like they used to" argument is odd to me. Just because you didn't like it doesn't mean it isn't a perfectly quality game many will love.

[RiseToFall]

From playing the demo only... it seems better than VII and VIII, equalish to IX, better than X, perhaps equal/less than IV and VI.

/shrug.

How can you possibly come to that conclusion after playing a 15 minute demo?

[MurderfaceX3]

COLOR="Lime"]What are you people talking about?! FFXII is awesome. Don't get me wrong the other classic FF's are bad ass too, but FFXII is better than the others because they made the combat like MMO sensibilities but rather in a single-player framework. Also the in-game movies are visually awesome![[/COLOR]

[Khaotic]

COLOR="Lime"]What are you people talking about?! FFXII is awesome. Don't get me wrong the other classic FF's are bad ass too, but FFXII is better than the others because they made the combat like MMO sensibilities but rather in a single-player framework. Also the in-game movies are visually awesome![[/COLOR]

Which really only works if its actually online.

This will definately not be one of everyones favorite, it'll die down in a year or so. The hype is just so strong right now, everyone "thinks" its their new favorite FF.

[XxSephirothxX]

I'm thoroughly enjoying it. About 27 hours in now, and it's probably my fourth favorite in the series behind IX and VI and VII. I think I'll eventually enjoy it more than VII, though, because the combat is so much easier and more enjoyable, and the story is a politically-charged masterpiece compared to a confusing but semi-typical Japanese plot. I mostly love VII for the nostalgia factor. :p

[ValiantKnight]

/shrugs. The opinion is open to change. Just how i feel from the "15min demo"
*note.. these are my opinions.. not saying this is a review of the masses, hence I thought I was open to feel how I wanted /shrug*

FFVII and FFVIII faded very quickly for me after their initial "hype"
FFIX is still well liked, FFIV and FFVI which I still have to replay after losing my save after the phoenix cave.

It's not like that's a super accurate placing of the game, nor will it be permanent. Just that I dislike VII and VIII heavily now, where I did like them a little when first played... and yet I still like IX, IV, and VI, as well as I. X seemed very nice while playing but is losing its appeal to me alot now.

So placing it ahead of my dislikes, equal to or behind my likes.... is bad?
Sorry if it upset you :(

[daiyu]

I'm relieved that someone else is less than ga-ga over this game. I'm ~ 2/3 of the way through and have found the story and character development to be seriously lacking: the only character I find at all interesting is Balthier, and the only story sequence I think I've really enjoyed is when the party travels to Archades for the first time. Although the technical gameplay (battle system, graphics, etc) is better than anything that has come before (while remaining true to traditional FF gameplay), I think that the character/story quality is significantly lower than FFX, to say nothing of FFVI.

However I'm hoping that the final 1/3 of the game will prove me wrong.

[skillzboy4]

I'm relieved that someone else is less than ga-ga over this game. I'm ~ 2/3 of the way through and have found the story and character development to be seriously lacking: the only character I find at all interesting is Balthier, and the only story sequence I think I've really enjoyed is when the party travels to Archades for the first time. Although the technical gameplay (battle system, graphics, etc) is better than anything that has come before (while remaining true to traditional FF gameplay), I think that the character/story quality is significantly lower than FFX, to say nothing of FFVI.

However I'm hoping that the final 1/3 of the game will prove me wrong.



i agree with u on everything here, im one dungeon away from the ending.. and feel that this game lacks in story big time... i mean you have so many characters with stupid accents that i sometimes cant pick up... to me this story is the worse story out of all the FF's, but the game play is a lot better than the other FF's.

When i first started this game i thought the story would rock, but it ended up being kind of boring to me... definetly gonna give it a F for the story.

[Wolf Kanno]

I usually don't make a decision about an FF until after my second play thru, except for FFVII and X which both thoroughly disappointed me. I don't feel it's the greatest in the series but I feel, so far, that it is a game that comes quite refreshing.

It breaks a lot of norms, and I feel that the series has become rather stagnant as of late. This is the fresh breath of air I've been waiting for. It's far from perfect and perhaps it will not be as popular as FFVI and VII are, but if the other SE employee's (especially Nomura, who has destroyed all my faith in his ability to write a good plot and likable cast) can see it for it's groundbreaking work perhaps the FF series might have a future. It's less of a revolution and more of a glimmer of hope.

Alas, I have seen the trailers of FFXIII and the future is looking bleak for me. I know FF will continue as long as money can be made from it but in the words of PA's Gabe, "It's just not my Final Fantasy anymore"

[Dell]

This game is awesome.
Story - Everything make sense, monster have history, even NPC speech proves correct!!! (One of the Imperial in Nalbina say something of strong wyrm, he means the Hell Wyrm) (Garif at the entrance of Jahara say something of mist forest [Feywood] and a wyrm, he means the Behemoth King. The people who petitioned a mark, actually say something about their hunt before you even accept the hunt.
Gameplay - BEST! I like this fast battle! Like Tales and Star Ocean!! License Board is my favourite system now.
Music: This one sucked but addictive. I like Paramina Rift, Subterra and Pharos theme etc.
Graphic: Good. FMV = PERFECT.

[Cruise Control]

This is definitely my new favorite. My only dissapointment is that X will get less lovin from me.
I fail to see how a plot thats not about some pre-pubescent male and 4 other people saving the world, is dissapointing. I find it a refreshing change of pace.

[TyphoonThaReapa]

I'm glad you guys agree. This game, notice I said game NOT Final Fantasy, sucks!!! The characters suck. The story line is below average. These "Espers" suck. Man, the only thing stopping me from throwing this game to the wall is that it has the name Final Fantasy on the front cover, I paid valuable money for this, and the battle system is straight.:mad2: But what do I know. I'm just one of many valuable players who love the entire series no matter how bad they are. And for the record, this is the new least to best order. FF9, FFX-2, FF1,FF2, FF3, FF4, FF Tactics, FF5, FF6, FF12,FF11,FF10,FF7,FF8.

[Khaotic]

I find this very sad.

I......was not even able to finish the game. When I play, I find myself mindlessly hacking away and running into random walls for no apparent reason. I have no interest in it whatsoever. Judging from the pictures/movies for FF13, I'm hesitant to buy a PS3 when it comes out, they honestly should've never changed their main theme, change is good, but too much change can (and proven) be bad.

[ekkatin]

I fail to see how a plot thats not about some pre-pubescent male and 4 other people saving the world, is dissapointing. I find it a refreshing change of pace.
Isn't saving the world what FF is all about? I mean come on it's called FINAL fantasy

I really like the game, like leveling, and the battle system, but the story is just plain not good, it doesn't grab me I could care less about the characters and what happens to them, and IMHO this is what FF is all about, the story

[ValiantKnight]

Per my first post, I can only comment on the limited aspects of the demo still yet.
But it seems a reoccuring trend that some of the people in here like the battle system and most of the other aspects but dislike the story.
While it would be hard to discuss story at all without spoilers, it does make me wonder what could be so awful about it as to turn you away from it.


*shrugs*

[Roto13]

This game is great. I'm pretty much at the end (I don't have a lot of time to play it these days, even though I got it at launch :P) and I've enjoyed most of it. I will say that once I hit the Feywood, and until I got through Giruvegan, it felt a lot like pointless wandering, but I liked it before and after that. I even like the story, even if it's not so character centric.

[VeloZer0]

I wouldn't call the storyline awful, there is just nothing good in it. Not like it did anything wrong, just didn't do anything right.

I'm personally disappointed with the story because although it was very unremarkable for most of the game, at a certain point it looked like it had so much potential building up, and then just reverted back to mediocrity.

Personally, I find the battle system least exciting of just about all games; I’m mostly reduced to looking at my health bars during the fight and healing when I’m low. Hypothetically I could gambit that as well and make actually playing battles superfluous. Any system where I'm not actually playing needs some work.

[chionos]

I cannot comprehend why some people prefer the old random battles to the new system. Nor how anyone can be stuck grinding in FFXII.

R2

Every previous FF involved horrible amounts of grinding because even if all you were going to do was run from battle you still had to deal with the annoying flashy screen of pain. In FFXII you don't have to grind AT ALL if you don't want to. And when you do grind, it's so much better than before, especially if you're challenging yourself and grinding on mobs much higher than yourself. If you can just sit back and let gambits do the fighting for you then you're not fighting mobs that are difficult enough.

However, as much as I don't understand anyone bashing the battle system, I can understand the problems with the story. The story just isn't as enticing as FFIX's or FFVI's. It's not as memorable as past FF's, I'll admit. I think everyone(myself included) was expecting one WOW moment after another, and FFXII's plot is not that kind of plot. But the fault is not with the game but with our expectations of it. Once I realized it wasn't going to be that kind of game I decided to take it for what it was, a more subtle approach to the old stagnant formula. It wasn't what I was expecting, but that's my fault. I'm used to simple, comic, cartoonish plots and SE has grown out of that. I guess SE assumed that its followers had grown up with it and could handle a more subtle, poignant plot.

[The Unknown Guru]

I think it just outstripped XI as m favorite FF a couple days ago. The combat, story, and everything else just rule.

[Dell]

I'm glad you guys agree. This game, notice I said game NOT Final Fantasy, sucks!!! The characters suck. The story line is below average. These "Espers" suck. Man, the only thing stopping me from throwing this game to the wall is that it has the name Final Fantasy on the front cover, I paid valuable money for this, and the battle system is straight.:mad2: But what do I know. I'm just one of many valuable players who love the entire series no matter how bad they are. And for the record, this is the new least to best order. FF9, FFX-2, FF1,FF2, FF3, FF4, FF Tactics, FF5, FF6, FF12,FF11,FF10,FF7,FF8.

They didn't changed much of the tradition.
You'll actually realized that this game take a lot from old Final Fantasy. Some people now have forgotten FFI - FFVI (And FFIX) because they prefer FFVII - FFX and their GRAPHIC. And I can see by your FF Ranking, FFVIII, FFVII and FFX are in your top 3. :rolleyes2

Squeenix want to revive the spirit of FFI - FFVI (And FFIX) again! GO GO GO! :p

[Roto13]

And IX is on the bottom. What the hell?

[Rabidewok]

I don't understand some people's hostilities towards the battle system. It saves alot of load time if you ask me. Plus the way you fight is the same as it has always been.. You choose what you wanna do and you fight, the only difference is if you don't change what you wanna do then you keep auto attacking. Sure it doesn't have the same FF feel but it isn't a draw back to the game.

[James16]

i agree the new battle system makes it easier an if the keep the same battle system for game after game after game, its gets old an boring. I think this FF gives the series a new 'spice' to it. An i like the fact that you can see the monsters in this one. What used to always happen to me wuz my party was almost, no practicaly dead, i jus got threw a boss fight got really far in the game, was headin to a save point an bam, all the sudden i got into a random fight an everyone got killed. An i had to start ALLLLLLLLLLL the way over. To me, stuff like that jus kills the game's fun factor drastically.

[TyphoonThaReapa]

I wouldn't call the storyline awful, there is just nothing good in it. Not like it did anything wrong, just didn't do anything right.


.......Basically, your calling it awful!!!


I cannot comprehend why some people prefer the old random battles to the new system. Nor how anyone can be stuck grinding in FFXII.

R2

Every previous FF involved horrible amounts of grinding because even if all you were going to do was run from battle you still had to deal with the annoying flashy screen of pain. In FFXII you don't have to grind AT ALL if you don't want to. And when you do grind, it's so much better than before, especially if you're challenging yourself and grinding on mobs much higher than yourself. If you can just sit back and let gambits do the fighting for you then you're not fighting mobs that are difficult enough.

However, as much as I don't understand anyone bashing the battle system, I can understand the problems with the story. The story just isn't as enticing as FFIX's or FFVI's. It's not as memorable as past FF's, I'll admit. I think everyone(myself included) was expecting one WOW moment after another, and FFXII's plot is not that kind of plot. But the fault is not with the game but with our expectations of it. Once I realized it wasn't going to be that kind of game I decided to take it for what it was, a more subtle approach to the old stagnant formula. It wasn't what I was expecting, but that's my fault. I'm used to simple, comic, cartoonish plots and SE has grown out of that. I guess SE assumed that its followers had grown up with it and could handle a more subtle, poignant plot.


sounds to me you can't play the other FFs because y'all catch a seacer from the flashing lights:eek:

They didn't changed much of the tradition.
You'll actually realized that this game take a lot from old Final Fantasy. Some people now have forgotten FFI - FFVI (And FFIX) because they prefer FFVII - FFX and their GRAPHIC. And I can see by your FF Ranking, FFVIII, FFVII and FFX are in your top 3. :rolleyes2

Squeenix want to revive the spirit of FFI - FFVI (And FFIX) again! GO GO GO! :p[/quote]


You got that right!!!:D


And IX is on the bottom. What the hell?

The truth hurts.


And IX is on the bottom. What the hell?

The truth hurts. Well, no pain no gain.:cool:

Don't post twice in a row, let alone five times. Use the "edit" button if you have more to add, please. ~Shlup

[Coronet]

I love the gameplay and battle system, dislike the story. The storyline is just not THERE comparatively to the other FF games. I'm almost bored. There's no backstory for any of the characters or espers. It's more like some new aspect is introduced and seems interesting, but leads to a dead end. Characters are killed off and I don't feel anything. It's like you don't have long enough to form an emotional attachment.

[Timerk]

I cannot comprehend why some people prefer the old random battles to the new system. Nor how anyone can be stuck grinding in FFXII.


There are at least two points in the game where you have to stop what you are doing and grind just to build levels because the enemy level spike is so steep. You also need to do this to get new gear and spells, which can get expensive.

I have read a lot of help threads concerning the Judge Ghis fight where people are getting to the Leviathan with a party under level 10.

[Renmiri]

Too uneven. Fantastic in some areas, lame in others. A good game but not one for the history books IMHO.

[Leonffs]

I was playing FF12 a lot previously and it was a decent game, I loved the combat but the rest of the game just felt kind of lacking.
Then I got a Wii and Twilight Princess which I was absolutely captivated by and recently finished a couple days ago. To be honest I have really no desire to get back into FF12 right now, I just have no desire to play it after experiencing Twilight Princess.

[Lynx]

I'm glad you guys agree. This game, notice I said game NOT Final Fantasy, sucks!!! The characters suck. The story line is below average. These "Espers" suck. Man, the only thing stopping me from throwing this game to the wall is that it has the name Final Fantasy on the front cover, I paid valuable money for this, and the battle system is straight.:mad2: But what do I know. I'm just one of many valuable players who love the entire series no matter how bad they are. And for the record, this is the new least to best order. FF9, FFX-2, FF1,FF2, FF3, FF4, FF Tactics, FF5, FF6, FF12,FF11,FF10,FF7,FF8.

i cant belive you think 9 was the worse and 8 was the best . 9 was amazeing 8 was eh ok. but everyone is entiled to there opinions. id say replay 9 though pay close attention to the story


I find this very sad.

I......was not even able to finish the game. When I play, I find myself mindlessly hacking away and running into random walls for no apparent reason. I have no interest in it whatsoever. Judging from the pictures/movies for FF13, I'm hesitant to buy a PS3 when it comes out, they honestly should've never changed their main theme, change is good, but too much change can (and proven) be bad.

the battle system was the biggest change in the whole thing and its a lot of fun then haveing to stop moveing and being sucked into a battle. ff12 is awesome you should always play a game start to finish before judgeing it.

[VengefulRonin]

As Timerk said, there are spots where the level spikes are pretty steep...not sure if its only two though. I hit one last week and havent even touched the game since then. I was actually a few lvs ahead of everything, and then i get to a certain area and BAM! i'm getting slaughtered. I'd already spent several hours leveling just so i could reach that area, and whaddya know, it allowed me to reach that area just so i could die. So now i've gone back to playing my third file on Resident Evil 4.

The battle system i like fairly well, i like being able to see whats ahead of me and knowing whether or not i have the strength (or patience) to fight it.

And IX is an incredible FF. Whoever says it sucks should be shot.

[Madame Adequate]

I usually don't make a decision about an FF until after my second play thru, except for FFVII and X which both thoroughly disappointed me.

Alas, I have seen the trailers of FFXIII and the future is looking bleak for me. I know FF will continue as long as money can be made from it but in the words of PA's Gabe, "It's just not my Final Fantasy anymore"

Haha, holy crap, you're like the exact opposite of me from another dimension :p

[Lynx]

i actually like the level spikes makes hte game more challangeing i jsut got through one and now im in an area that seems quite easy. i like a challange and when i hit those areas that seem tuff it makes the game even more fun. i actually worry im gaining to many levels because i dont want the game to be easy. so far its a pretty challangeing game. i found myself running for my life a few times mostly on hunts though but hey its stillpart of the game.

[VengefulRonin]

haha, i find myself running for my life quite a few times, those hunts are murder >_<

[Renmiri]

... I have no interest in it whatsoever. Judging from the pictures/movies for FF13, I'm hesitant to buy a PS3 when it comes out, they honestly should've never changed their main theme, change is good, but too much change can (and proven) be bad.
The team developing XIII is completely different. The "magic trio" that did FFX is back again making a game. I just can't wait for XIII :love: :love: :love:

[Wolf Kanno]

I usually don't make a decision about an FF until after my second play thru, except for FFVII and X which both thoroughly disappointed me.

Alas, I have seen the trailers of FFXIII and the future is looking bleak for me. I know FF will continue as long as money can be made from it but in the words of PA's Gabe, "It's just not my Final Fantasy anymore"

Haha, holy crap, you're like the exact opposite of me from another dimension :p

Must be, but we need diversity. Life's more interesting when you're being visited by your evil twin from a parallel universe;)


The team developing XIII is completely different. The "magic trio" that did FFX is back again making a game. I just can't wait for XIII

I think the "magic trio" have run out of magic tricks myself. I prefer the original "Magic Trio" of Sakaguchi, Amano, and Uematsu.

[VengefulRonin]

The "magic trio" are back? *groans* Time for another confusing storyline...

Ya know...i still havent touched XII again and its been over week. I worked my ass off leveling so i could be a few lvs stronger than other stuffs, and then i found out i had to lv MORE and that totally burnt me out.
And i'm really glad it was my dad who bought me the special edition and not me, cuz its a waste of an extra $10. Different cover and a CD with artwork, woohoo. I actually prefer the normal cover, and i can find the artwork online. I guess the only reason i had him get the special edition was for bragging rights xD