Hawthorne Heights

[thebandmate]

Has anyone here heard of the punk/emo band hawthorne heights, and if so what do you think?

[rubah]

Hello I hear about them all the time in the Lounge.

[Jigsaw]

I hear that their hearts are in Ohio and really that's about it

oh I also hear they're terrible

[Sylvie]

They suck. Whiny, emo, and annoying.

[Paro]

They have some good riffs. "Cross Me Off Your List" has some good ones. They are okay though.

[XxSephirothxX]

Yeah, I used to bum rides off a friend who listened to them all the time back in high school. They're pretty atrocious.

[Black Mage FF1]

They're not emo. And I think they are pretty cool. I used to listen to them. Haven't heard much of their newer stuff.

[Chemical]

That Heathcliff sure is a dream.

[Venom]

I've heard there stuff, I'm not really a huge fan of them or the genre of music they play.

[Tifa's Real Lover(really]

there alright

[Nominus Experse]

They're an abomination of music

I loathe them

[xX.Silver.Wings.Xx]

I love them. Some of their older stuff leaves a little top be desired but most of their new stuff is great. But FYI... I don't think they're really emo.

[Markus. D]

They're not emo. And I think they are pretty cool. I used to listen to them. Haven't heard much of their newer stuff.

through lyrics yes.

through self claim yes.

I like 1 or 2 songs, but I dont really fandom bands unless its Tsunami Bomb..

[Black Mage FF1]

They're not emo. And I think they are pretty cool. I used to listen to them. Haven't heard much of their newer stuff.

through lyrics yes.

through self claim yes.

I like 1 or 2 songs, but I dont really fandom bands unless its Tsunami Bomb..


Actually they consider themselves to be alternative rock/pop punk.

If you want to know what real emo bands are then listen to these

Rites of Spring
Jets To Brazil
Hot Water Music
Sunny Day Real Estate
Texas Is The Reason

[Sylvie]

They're not emo. And I think they are pretty cool. I used to listen to them. Haven't heard much of their newer stuff.

through lyrics yes.

through self claim yes.

I like 1 or 2 songs, but I dont really fandom bands unless its Tsunami Bomb..


Actually they consider themselves to be alternative rock/pop punk.

If you want to know what real emo bands are then listen to these

Rites of Spring
Jets To Brazil
Hot Water Music
Sunny Day Real Estate
Texas Is The Reason

Here's some great non-emo lyrics from Hawthorne Heights.


She wore crushed velvet, jet black and to the floor.
She rode on angels' wings that used to shine oh so bright.
Now the dark has caught the spark
in her eyes and I, I can't find the air.

I'll wait for you, I cross my heart.
Dissolve and decay, there's nothing left for me. (Right now)



Swim through these waters
My lungs collapse as I'm gasping for air
I'll breathe you in (and I'll breathe you in)
You are my oxygen alone

Through arteries untold, your skin is pale, my body's cold
Way down, deep down in my lungs
I can hear our sweet decay

So spill my blood (SO SPILL MY BLOOD)
Midnight skies turn scarlet red
Say "so long," say "goodnight," and just hold out your hand
To catch me if I fall into the night
Say "so long," say "goodnight," and just hold out your hand
To catch me if I fall



And I can't make it on my own.
(And I can't make it on my own.)
Because my heart is in Ohio.
So cut my wrists and black my eyes.
(Cut my wrists and black my eyes)
So I can fall asleep tonight, or die.
Because you kill me.
You know you do, you kill me well.
You like it too, and I can tell.
You never stop until my final breath is gone.

Spare me just three last words.
"I love you" is all she heard.
I'll wait for you, but I can't wait forever.

Next person to claim that they're not emo, and I'll have to torture everyone with more lyrics. Don't tempt me.

[Black Mage FF1]

Please, explain to me, how those lyrics are "emo". Because you can find those types of "emo" lyrics in just about any metal, country, rap or rock band out there.

[Sylvie]

How can you not see how those lyrics are emo?

"So cut my wrists and black my eyes"
It doesn't even get much more emo than that.

"So spill my blood (SPILL MY BLOOD)"
Emo.

As well as like every single line in those lyrics. I don't know how to explain it any further, its pretty much common sense to recognize what is emo and whiny and what is good.

[ff7+ff10 gurl 100]

I would say they're pretty emo. I don't like them very much. That's just my personal opinion though, don't eat me. xD.

[Black Mage FF1]

How can you not see how those lyrics are emo?

"So cut my wrists and black my eyes"
It doesn't even get much more emo than that.

"So spill my blood (SPILL MY BLOOD)"
Emo.

As well as like every single line in those lyrics. I don't know how to explain it any further, its pretty much common sense to recognize what is emo and whiny and what is good.

Way to sterotype. I'm not even going to argue. If thats "emo" then bands like metallica (who have songs about suicide) must be emo too, right? Get over it, if you want emo check out the bands that I listed. Those are emo.

An emo band is an emotionally charged HARDCORE band, that goes through sudden emotional changes or different emotions while performing. Singing about "cutting my wrist" does not make them emo.

Let me guess, you think bands like Fall Out Boy and Taking Back Sunday are emo too, right?

[Sylvie]

The lyrics from Rites of Spring are almost identical to those of Hawthorne Heights. They're whiny and suicidal.


And hope's just another rope to hang myself with
To tie me down till something real comes around
And if I started crying would you start crying?
And if I started crying why are you not crying?

They don't shut up. All they do is sing to be pity whores and cut their wrists. And if you actually READ the Hawthorne Heights lyrics, it's pretty fucking obvious that they're going through some emotional stuff.

[Black Mage FF1]

The lyrics from Rites of Spring are almost identical to those of Hawthorne Heights. They're whiny and suicidal.


And hope's just another rope to hang myself with
To tie me down till something real comes around
And if I started crying would you start crying?
And if I started crying why are you not crying?

They don't shut up. All they do is sing to be pity whores and cut their wrists. And if you actually READ the Hawthorne Heights lyrics, it's pretty smurfing obvious that they're going through some emotional stuff.


If you actually look, almost all of Rites of Spring songs are like that. Hawthorne Heights are not, they have a few. And if having some songs with emotion makes a band emo, then pretty much every every band out there is emo.

Anyway, I'm done arguing. I can tell you're one of those ignorant people who assume that because a band has a high pitched voice that they are emo. Or because they have girl pants or whatever.

[Sylvie]

The lyrics from Rites of Spring are almost identical to those of Hawthorne Heights. They're whiny and suicidal.


And hope's just another rope to hang myself with
To tie me down till something real comes around
And if I started crying would you start crying?
And if I started crying why are you not crying?

They don't shut up. All they do is sing to be pity whores and cut their wrists. And if you actually READ the Hawthorne Heights lyrics, it's pretty smurfing obvious that they're going through some emotional stuff.


If you actually look, almost all of Rites of Spring songs are like that. Hawthorne Heights are not, they have a few. And if having some songs with emotion makes a band emo, then pretty much every every band out there is emo.

Anyway, I'm done arguing. I can tell you're one of those ignorant people who assume that because a band has a high pitched voice that they are emo. Or because they have girl pants or whatever.
No, I'm one of those people who think a band is emo because they're whiny and they don't shut up.