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neo_sporin
12-09-2006, 05:06 AM
For those of you that have the soundtrack, which disc do you listen to the most. Since I havnt quite finished the game yet, just got airship i havnt listened to disc 4 yet, but so far I can only stand listening to the first disc without track jumping, it just seems by far the strongest disc overall.

remnant1
12-09-2006, 06:01 PM
what disk?does it come with the collectors edition?

Renmiri
12-09-2006, 06:19 PM
what disk?does it come with the collectors edition?
No Collectors Edition comes with a Bonus DVD with some Artwork, Interviews, clips of the ads and "The History of Final Fantasy". I posted the History clip on Youtube :D

I don't have the soundtrack but I would be pissed if I had it. It sold for $40 here at my Japanese store and I only like one theme so far: Paramina Rift.

LazarCotoron
12-09-2006, 10:40 PM
While I don't own the soundtrack to FFXII, I DO own the soundtrack to Vagrant Story, so I imagine the particular answer would be the same since the same composer is responsible.

I don't listen to any one disc the most-I listen to the most sinister and/or interesting tracks in the entire collection and burn a CD of THAT music. Most of FFXII's music is background music that fits the scenes very alarmingly well. I'm not honestly sure if it all stands up to being good music to listen to purely on its own, however. Again, using Vagrant Story as a reference, VS's soundtrack didn't measure up purely as listening music. But in the game... *eyes take on a distant look as I stare off at horrors only I can see complimented by a sinister score of music...*

Renmiri
12-10-2006, 09:17 PM
While I don't own the soundtrack to FFXII, I DO own the soundtrack to Vagrant Story, so I imagine the particular answer would be the same since the same composer is responsible.

I don't listen to any one disc the most-I listen to the most sinister and/or interesting tracks in the entire collection and burn a CD of THAT music. Most of FFXII's music is background music that fits the scenes very alarmingly well. I'm not honestly sure if it all stands up to being good music to listen to purely on its own, however..

You just described the FFXII soundtrack perfectly.

BTW, I posted my bonus DVD interview with Hitoshi Sakimoto, the FFXII composer at Youtube (someone asked me for it)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e8VG3bRSC8U

Cruise Control
12-10-2006, 10:03 PM
I really don't listen to discs, but I really like Salikawood, and Paramina Rift.

Dalmasca Westersands is dull and uninspired.

Zeromus_X
12-10-2006, 10:24 PM
I like:

- Boss Battle
- Secret Practice (Port at Balfonheim)
- The Dalmasca Eastersand (<3<3<3)
- The Dalmasca Westersand
- Clan Headquarters
- Giza Plains
- Penelo's Theme and Separation with Penelo
- The Garamscyth Waterway
- The Princess' Vison
- Clash of Swords (second boss theme)
- Victory Fanfare (:cat:)
- Dark Cloud (Imperial Version)
- Theme of the Empire
- The Barheim Passage
- Basch's Remniscence
- Coexistence (Liberation Army version)
- Secret of Nethicite (<3 factor times three)
- Speechless Fight (plays for the Demon Wall)
- The Sandsea
- Esper Battle (<3<3<3<3)
- Seeking Power (Paramina Rift theme)
- Desperate Fight
- Ozmone Plains
- An Imminent Threat
- Clash on the Big Bridge
- Abandoning Power
- The Stillshrine of Miriam
- Time for a Rest
- The White Room
- The Salikawood (<3)
- The Phon Coast
- The Sochen Cave Palace (<3)
- Near the Water
- The Mosphoran Highwaste
- Esper (<3)
- The Land of Memories
- The Feywood
- To the Place of the Gods (Great Crystal)
- Beginning of the End
- To the Peak
- Sky Fortress Bahamut
- Battle for Freedom (<3)
- Kiss Me Goodbye (<3)

This soundtrack is really enjoyable. Sometimes it may be a bit repetitive, and sometimes some themes seem to be reused for different cutscenes, but I think it's really enjoyable to listen to with top-notch sound quality.

Dreddz
12-10-2006, 11:03 PM
The soundtrack is disappointing, probably the only downside of FFXII. I do like The Dalmasca Eastersand track though.

Tavrobel
12-10-2006, 11:19 PM
Half of the FFXII music sucks, and the other half doesn't stand out at all.

I think for most of the game, after hearing one round of music, I was listening to FFV's version of Battle with Gilgamesh, and doing homework at the same time. That's how uncaptivating the game was.

LazarCotoron
12-11-2006, 01:00 AM
See, I disagree that the soundtrack is 'bad'. For the most part, it isn't stand out, and if you think that the music should COMPETE for your attention in a game, then this is not a soundtrack for you.

But there is a belief in composition that states that rather than competeing for your attention, the music should accentuate the scenes, and the music in FFXII does that perfectly.

What we have here more than anything is an argument between the two prevailing views of how you write music to scenes. Both views are valid, and both work.

Renmiri
12-11-2006, 01:51 AM
I really don't listen to discs, but I really like Salikawood, and Paramina Rift.

Dalmasca Westersands is dull and uninspired.

I didn't notice anything - insipid and unmemorable - until Paramina Rift, that song I liked so much I put on Youtube :D


But there is a belief in composition that states that rather than competeing for your attention, the music should accentuate the scenes, and the music in FFXII does that perfectly.

Maybe but here in US there's the fact that this semi-classical easy listening stuff is used here in US by all the call waiting / tech support phone mazes "from hell". This kind of music reminds me of many a day being spitting mad having to wait 40-50 minutes to talk to someone with a brain at Dell, Delta Airlines, AOL, HP and others... Ugh!!! And now 40 hours of this ???? < shudders >

LazarCotoron
12-11-2006, 02:02 AM
This might sound odd to you, but I live 'here in the US'.

Actually, I don't use the phone very often to talk to companies-mainly for reasons you just stated. Consequently, I'm quite a bit out of date with what they've been polluting the phone lines with... Last I listened in, they were playing the worst of pop culture (that'd be back around 1998).

Renmiri
12-12-2006, 04:32 PM
This might sound odd to you, but I live 'here in the US'.

Actually, I don't use the phone very often to talk to companies-mainly for reasons you just stated. Consequently, I'm quite a bit out of date with what they've been polluting the phone lines with... Last I listened in, they were playing the worst of pop culture (that'd be back around 1998).

Aye, nowadays they switched to classical wannabe's like John Williams movie themes and the like. I spent many hours on phone maze hell so this kind of music gives me hives :eep:

Don't get me wrong, it is not bad, just flavorless, and brings me bad memories of a bad Indian accent on the other side of the phoneline telling me to "reboot" for the 15th time... < shudders > :tongue:

LazarCotoron
12-12-2006, 08:30 PM
See, that tech support thing you mentioned? That was what caused me to learn enough about computers to fix the things that went wrong with it. It started with my PC, and later on, my old PS2 started to die (it finally passed away this year, so I had to buy one of the little ones)... I kinda' thought... "Do I want to call Sony, get run around for a while, be told that they need my PS2 in the shop, and pay them $50 to do 'something', OR do I just crack open my PS2, dust off the lense, and see if it works afterwards..."

Guess which one I did. :D

Dell
12-14-2006, 10:29 AM
Paramina Rift, Esper Battle (The one when you fight the Esper, not the one when you summon) and Gilgamesh Battle.

I like all of the theme but the three above is <3.

LazarCotoron
12-14-2006, 10:38 AM
Aye, nowadays they switched to classical wannabe's like John Williams movie themes and the like. I spent many hours on phone maze hell so this kind of music gives me hives :eep:

Don't get me wrong, it is not bad, just flavorless, and brings me bad memories of a bad Indian accent on the other side of the phoneline telling me to "reboot" for the 15th time... < shudders > :tongue:

Classical music is NOT responsible for John Williams. The man writes decent music, except that it is ALL movie type music and based on fundamentally the same major chords! If you take all of John Williams' music and listen to it back to back, y'know the one sound track that sounds different? Indiana Jones!

For the love of all things, do NOT write off Classical Music as a crappy idea because of John Williams! Write it off if it's not your thing after you listen to the good stuff, but not for John Williams! That'd just be letting that over puffed turkey win.

Renmiri
12-14-2006, 01:53 PM
Classical music is NOT responsible for John Williams. The man writes decent music, except that it is ALL movie type music and based on fundamentally the same major chords! If you take all of John Williams' music and listen to it back to back, y'know the one sound track that sounds different? Indiana Jones!

For the love of all things, do NOT write off Classical Music as a crappy idea because of John Williams! Write it off if it's not your thing after you listen to the good stuff, but not for John Williams! That'd just be letting that over puffed turkey win.

Oh I'm a big fan of Classical Music. I even like Opera! :D I just hate the Classical wannabes like the "over puffed turkey" John Williams. They do a disservice to music as a whole! I exaggerated a bit, poor Hitoshi Sakimoto is much better than Williams. Paramina Rift ain't half bad. Still, 40+ hours of bland stuff is not to my taste. But I hate Vanila ice cream for the same reason: way over used and way too bland. I need some spice! :p

Try FFXII to the sound of Albinoni's Adagio (in a very different, "spicy" rendition). It rocks :love:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i_VhqM3gx1E

LazarCotoron
12-14-2006, 10:20 PM
Oh I'm a big fan of Classical Music. I even like Opera! :D I just hate the Classical wannabes like the "over puffed turkey" John Williams. They do a disservice to music as a whole!

Ok, just so long as we're clear then.

Like I said, on its own, I don't think the music is special, but in context of the game, it's perfect. Taken out of that context, it simply doesn't have the impact.