Life is Strange almost had Male Protagonists

Doesn't shock me. Square has always been fair w/ female protagonists &/or strong female characters. Parasite Eve, FFVI, FFX/X-2 are just a few games that feature one or the other. I know XV is a sausage party, so maybe they're hoping this'll balance things out.

Square enix confuses me sometimes. They do this then they have boobalicious Cidney. This is a great move though.

Originally Posted by Freya

Square enix confuses me sometimes. They do this then they have boobalicious Cidney. This is a great move though.

Well, just because Cidney is boobalicious it doesn't make her a weak or poor character. Everyone's making assumptions on just her look w/o getting to know the character.

GOOD!

Originally Posted by Colonel Angus

Originally Posted by Freya

Square enix confuses me sometimes. They do this then they have boobalicious Cidney. This is a great move though.

Well, just because Cidney is boobalicious it doesn't make her a weak or poor character. Everyone's making assumptions on just her look w/o getting to know the character.

Don't know who's been saying all that. All I see are comments that's the outfit is sexualized, stupid, etc. And I agree with that.

Well I guess I'm definitely buying this game. I hadn't heard about the controversy over things like Remember Me until well after my girlfriend had rented it and played through the whole thing, or I would have bought that game for the same reason. I don't think I've ever heard of Square doing executive meddling into any of their side developers. Pretty sure Sleeping Dogs and the Tomb Raider reboot were allowed to do their own thing. I imagine that's how Human Revolution ended up being such a tolerable entry into the Deus Ex franchise

Edit: Actually, upon further reflection, I think I'd like to know what developers they tried first who were trying to force them to appeal to all male gamers. I doubt that information is in the video, or if they'll ever release it, but I haven't watched the video yet. About to go make dinner

Square Enix taking it without hesitation doesn't surprise me either like others have said, but I wonder why they didn't go back to Capcom since they already accepting of a female protagonist the first time. Japanese companies in general seem to be fine with making games with female protagonists. Capcom for example had Resident Evils 1, 2, 3, and Code Veronica with female protagonists. You also have the Dino Crisis series, Tron Bonne adventures, Okami, and the face of Darkstalkers is Morrigan. Square has had FFs VI, X-2, XIII, XIII-2, XIII-3, Threads of Fate, and the Parasite Eve series all with female protagonists, not to mention the recent Tomb Raider.

I have a feeling that they go to western publishers first, because when I think about it, there aren't many western studios that have a track record with a lot of female protagonists.

Originally Posted by Vyk

Well I guess I'm definitely buying this game. I hadn't heard about the controversy over things like Remember Me until well after my girlfriend had rented it and played through the whole thing, or I would have bought that game for the same reason. I don't think I've ever heard of Square doing executive meddling into any of their side developers. Pretty sure Sleeping Dogs and the Tomb Raider reboot were allowed to do their own thing. I imagine that's how Human Revolution ended up being such a tolerable entry into the Deus Ex franchise

Edit: Actually, upon further reflection, I think I'd like to know what developers they tried first who were trying to force them to appeal to all male gamers. I doubt that information is in the video, or if they'll ever release it, but I haven't watched the video yet. About to go make dinner

It doesn't say in the video. What's quoted in the original post is what is said in the video.

It was probably western developers. They seem to have the harder position of female leads in games.

I'm just wondering who's decided that a game must have a male protagonist in order to appeal to someone who is male.

Originally Posted by Mirage

I'm just wondering who's decided that a game must have a male protagonist in order to appeal to someone who is male.

I second this.

Originally Posted by Mirage

I'm just wondering who's decided that a game must have a male protagonist in order to appeal to someone who is male.

Nobody decided that, because that's not what the article says. I'm sure there's truth to the market research even if it isn't right.

Kudos to SE for actually going with the creators' vision.

I didn't say that's what the article said. That wasn't really the point.

I read elsewhere that they didn't want a female protagonist because males wouldn't want to see their character kiss a male.

“We had some [publishers] that said, ‘Well, we don’t want to publish it because that’s not going to succeed. You can’t have a female character in games. It has to be a male character, simple as that.’” Moris also said of that game that the lead character’s gender “just felt right from the beginning of development,” and that changing it for marketing purposes would have “endangered the consistency of the whole game.” Apparently with Remember Me, people took issue with male gamers playing a female character who kisses a male character. “We had people tell us, ‘You can’t make a dude like the player kiss another dude in the game, that’s going to feel awkward,’” said Moris.

Two words: Mass Effect.

Go smurf yourself, anonymous publishers.

I remember that time i vomited all over my keyboard because my shepard had sex with that beefcake down in the hangar.

I actually wanted to friendzone him but he would have none of that trout

Jimquisition made two or three good videos on this topic (thanks Psychotic), and even chided that if you're a guy, and the only things you want to play have big muscular beefy sweaty meat-clods on the cover, and you get to spend the entire game looking at their ass the whole time... Well... The viewers knew what he was getting at. They may be hiding or denying something if they're THAT against playing as a female. Methinks thou dost protest too much, yo

Originally Posted by Mirage

I remember that time i vomited all over my keyboard because my shepard had sex with that beefcake down in the hangar.

I actually wanted to friendzone him but he would have none of that trout

Uh that's because you should have went for Liara because she was the only one who bothered to keep looking for you after you died. True luv obviously. Plus Kaiden is boring and Ashley is a racist. Liara ftw! Or are you talking about the black beefcake? There were so many beefcakes so I dunno.

*ahem* anyway I digress, I don't think men have an issue playing women as seen by the success of the Tomb Raider series and the reboot. Beyond Two Souls also did well.

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This guy


And I was actually not being serious. I went for Liara when possible. I don't remember who i actually went for in ME3

Haha, I just bought Remember Me today, too. I'll be getting this.

And yeah, Japanese developers (especially Capcom and Square!) are fine with having female protagonists, but I don't understand why other companies are so against them, since games like Tomb Raider make money hand over fist.

This sounds really good! It's too bad that the soundtrack will feature a bunch of indie b*tches on acoustic guitar, lyricing morose, self-indulgent and tuneless "melody".

Originally Posted by Lockharted

I read elsewhere that they didn't want a female protagonist because males wouldn't want to see their character kiss a male.

“We had some [publishers] that said, ‘Well, we don’t want to publish it because that’s not going to succeed. You can’t have a female character in games. It has to be a male character, simple as that.’” Moris also said of that game that the lead character’s gender “just felt right from the beginning of development,” and that changing it for marketing purposes would have “endangered the consistency of the whole game.” Apparently with Remember Me, people took issue with male gamers playing a female character who kisses a male character. “We had people tell us, ‘You can’t make a dude like the player kiss another dude in the game, that’s going to feel awkward,’” said Moris.

lol at these "publishers", this is just nonsense. I'm a guy an in games that give the choice, I very much always play a female character. In Mass Effect and Skyrim, for example, my female characters even got into relationships with people from both genders. I honestly have no problem whatsoever with that. So in my view the logic of these publishers is completely bogus.