Active Time Report 6.0, Episode Duscae 2.0 release date, Story updates

What, nooooooo

I have never understood the weird and obsessive fascination with "Stella" and why people are so precious about her when she is still in the game and not dead at all. She only appeared in what, two minutes of trailer footage under the name Stella? They just changed her name and outfit. That's it! And what's more, it's an improvement because Lunafreya is a nicer name than Stella.

I was baffled when after Duscae I said it was obvious they'd replaced her with Luna and a couple of people in the thread here jumped on it and insisted she was still knocking about and they were sisters. Hell, what am I even talking about, she wasn't replaced. Just renamed. That character everybody seems to love still exists.

I would have liked to see another female character

I'm allowed to have my feelings Psy

I'm saddened because I liked the kind of attitude/vibe from Stella's scenes. Hopefully we see more of Luna soon.

Personally I never liked the name 'Luna', which is perhaps weird considering the first part of my username is pretty similar.

Seems like they took out a really awesome looking scene in exchange for a less awesome one, though, but tbh once the game is finally out I won't be dwelling on all this kind of stuff.

There were like two minutes of scenes. Not nearly enough to get a feel for a character. Especially when they were all in Japanese!

Good riddance.

Two minutes of scenes is a lot for a non-playable character out of what we've seen. Certainly more than the, what, three seconds we've seen of Luna?

Stella was all badass and did things. Luna sits and has a blank expression. This is all we have from the scenes over the course of years don't you take that away from us!

Luna is going to do those same things because they are the same person.

I'm with Psy on this one.

Different name. Different symbol. Different look. Different getup. Different attitude. They're only the "same person" on a technicality. It's like saying "Oh, we replaced Wakka with Barret, they're the same person though." We can only have an attachment to characters based on what we see, and so far, the two of them have appeared to be markedly different.

Again, in time, I'm sure this will be forgotten by many and most, or just be seen as a "remember when" kind of thing. But at the moment we need to see a lot more Luna before people will forget about Stella.

EDIT: Although we can't be sure Luna will do those same things considering they have taken out key parts of the scene. It's possible that general badassery won't be seen with Luna.

EDITRA: To drive the point home, quoting from a reddit summary of this ATR...

Stella was cut because the team had difficulty integrating her role into the game. Instead we have Luna now, who has a different role than Stella used to have. All the other characters presented so far (e.g. the black-haired woman) are still in the game.

You don't know the attitudes are different because we've barely seen anything of her and you're just making assumptions. It's just a cosmetic change, which, if you'll note, all of the main characters have had since the Versus days, some of them arguably more extreme than the changes to Lunafreya. Nobody is mourning the loss of Prompto's white wifebeater or darker and neater hair, are they?

I don't really get your Wakka and Barret analogy at all given that they are actually different characters and what's more, we've actually seen plenty of them to know what they're like and that they're totally different characters. If you want a better analogy, it's like seeing two minutes of you as Daniel on a hike up a hill and then seeing a minute of Loony BoB, EoFF admin, doing some database queries and being all "well that Loony BoB guy sure is boring compared to Daniel!" when you are the same exact person.

See my EDITRA. Stella != Luna. Stella has been removed and Luna has been added. If it were not for the fact they are both girls and one popped out while the other popped in, I don't think anyone would be saying they are the same character. But you seem to be more annoyed at people getting upset over Stella's departure than people are about Stella's departure based on this thread. xD But yeah, read the words Tabata stated - they are not the same character.

Also note that I've repeatedly stated that I think once we see more of Luna we'll forget about Stella, but at this moment in time we have indeed lost one of the very few non-playable characters that we had any kind of personality given to. So let's just wait for more information on Luna so we can move on!

EDIT: Alternative wording of the pre-mentioned quote, according to another reddit thing (I can't watch the whole video at work)...

We decided not to include Stella in FF XV. Instead, we have a new heroine named Luna, who has a different role within the story.

Oh sweet. Freya is a cool name again!

Sad about Stella. T_T

Hopefully Luna will be great and we will all love her. But I'm disappointed that this character I was looking forward to won't be there any more. It's easy to argue that I shouldn't be disappointed because I didn't know the character, but it's precisely because I didn't know the character that I am disappointed. I wanted to know more about Stella! I wanted to see her personality, to experience her story. And I've been looking forward to doing that for 9 years.

Now I will never be able to do that. Sure, I can start getting interested and excited about Luna now, and I will for sure. But for right now, until I actually see a bit more of Luna... I will miss Stella. I will miss the character I was excited to discover.

People place a lot of of personality and attachment to Stella because for many years, she was one of the few things we knew about Versus/FFXV. There really was nothing much to go on back then. I'm sure Lunafreya will be great as well, but I can see why people would be put out of place by the change. I will be intrigued as to further details about how her role will "change". I sort of got a friendly, but determined vibe from Stella.

Also, just the name. Lunafreya just looks awkward. Stella Nox Fleuret sounds... like diamonds.

It was still kinda weird that they were all so hush-hush about it. Up to this point, whenever someone asked about Stella, the only reply we ever got was "hmm, what indeed?", so it really isn't strange that people started making up theories.

I could care less about the stella-luna switch. I just want to play the damn game at this point. But it sucks we were lead on to think stella still existed and the plot wasn't changed when it really was.

I also think the updates to Duscae 2.0 look great. June 9th cant come soon enough.

Originally Posted by Fynn

It was still kinda weird that they were all so hush-hush about it. Up to this point, whenever someone asked about Stella, the only reply we ever got was "hmm, what indeed?", so it really isn't strange that people started making up theories.

Ah yeah, it's never a good idea to let people speculate on stuff you know is going to disappoint them. We have the same problem where I work; there's some stuff I'm just not allowed to talk about because it will disappoint people and thus be "bad press". But then they speculate that we have some kinda awesome surprise and are just even more disappointed when eventually we're like "No no, this just sucks".

It's that same feeling as when somebody puts out teasers that seem to be indicating the return of BELOVED FRANCHISE. So all the press gets everyone hyped up about "The teased return of BELOVED FRANCHISE!" And then they say "We are proud to announce... the BELOVED FRANCHISE MOBILE PORT!" That upsets everyone. The moral of the story is don't dash people's hopes and dreams needlessly.

How I remember the thread in which I said she is the same person and if not at least a close relative.

Looks like they're ditching on Stella, among making other changes.



Even less inclination for me to play this game now! Full on boys club.

discuss, etc

Originally Posted by Tyson

the whole party scene and the attack on the city gameplay segment with Noctis has been removed.

I'm far more upset about this than I am about Stella being gone. That all looked so well done and felt like it was going to be amazing to play. But Stella suddenly being gone feels like a really sloppy half baked decision seeing as in the FFXV announcement trailer she's still apparently there, still talking to Noctis, and we still see her at the end.

This pretty much confirms what I've been trying to tell people for the last year though; Final Fantasy XV is not Final Fantasy Versus XIII by a different name; Final Fantasy Versus XIII was cancelled, XV is an entirely different game.

I'm still excited for FFXV but it really makes me sad because when I go back and watch those Versus XIII trailers (particularly the 2011 trailer) I see a game that looked so awesomely promising, and like something I really wanted to play, that I shall never get to.

There's already a thread about this at the top of the forum.

And yeah, if you're so sexist that you can't stand to play as a party of gendered characters different from your own then you should probably find something more fitting to your taste.