Conversation Between Madame Adequate and Peegee

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  1. Yes.
  2. Touche, PG, touche.

    btw what city do you live in again? It's Whitehorse right?

  3. We have to meet at one point in our lives. I have discussed this with the UN and Nato and as congress you will be told of details as they become relevant.

  4. TL;dr (i read it) tollies is wrong. Intriguing
  5. Taking after The Leviathan, of course, government - perhaps society itself, more properly - is essentially supposed to be a system where you give up certain rights in exchange for the protection/provision of others. I can't sell you refined uranium, but I do get treatment if I get cancer, for example. This runs into problems because it tends to make the presumption of agreement on the part of those born into a given society, and given that we don't have global free movement and open borders there's not much alternative if you don't, but fundamentally that's the principle here. Of course given laws all have their own nuances and stuff so blanket statements are of only limited use!
  6. I don't think a government can grant a freedom in the sense of creating a legitimate thing you can do that didn't exist before. Obviously if they rescind laws preventing something being done then they're 'granting' a freedom, but many would consider it restoring one which was unjustly suppressed before. Of course that relates to negative freedoms. When it comes to positive rights it's a bit trickier, because they are a more contested idea in the first place, and they are much more difficult to actually implement - Don't imprison people for saying stuff vs. Providing healthcare to all, for example.

  7. Hux. Can a government grant positive freedoms, or just restrict them?
    The way I was thinking was that the government doesn't pass a law saying I can buy food at walmart, but it does pass legal tender laws (and it says I can't steal)
    The government doesn't pass laws saying I can talk about the weather but it did pass the first amendment and prevents imminent harm or something (like yelling fire or inciting a mob), and canada does prohibit holocaust denial

    Toland is saying those allowances are declarations which allows actions. I say Governments can only limit our actions. I suspect I'm mistaken D:

  8. what? those misc reps counted? SWEET

    also lolololololololol I knew it
  9. Success!

    Yes, it's Steve.

  10. bah.

    eff this project i'm going to bread.
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