Conversation Between Pumpkin and Jinx

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  1. You have said some kind things, and I appreciate it.

    I'm going to try to stop checking the thread though, because I really don't feel like arguing opinion over this xD
  2. Yeah, I almost considered not posting in the thread at all, given how liberal everyone on here is.

    I know what you're doing is hard for you now, but I know it's also what's best for your son, so I think that that's good. Saying that...that's why I respect so much women who give their children up for adoption because they know they can have a better life. Heck, even if the woman doesn't care, but just doesn't want the child. The fact that she gave her child that chance at life is really amazing to me.

    And yeah, I've seen those things too, and it really upsets me. That's why I hate the liberal argument that "women always have to deal with it for the rest of their lives." Most women? Yes. All women? No. Some women really just don't care. And I think not having a baby just because it doesn't "fit into your plans" is incredibly selfish. Give it up for adoption. Easy.

    I understand your situation, though. Why you would've considered it. As I said, I have friends who were raped and had abortions, and a family member who was in an abusive relationship and knew she couldn't care for her child. I don't think it was the best decision, but an understandable one.
  3. Yeah, it's hard to discuss these things, especially on a site this "liberal" when it comes to stuff like that, but I agree with what you're saying. Honestly, I thought about it when I was pregnant with my son. I was in an abusive relationship and living with my aunt who I knew would kick me out and I had no money. I had nothing. Plus I was still getting over the twins thing (it was a surrogate thing, and incredibly hard to see them, so I stopped, and that was hard too.) So I went in for my ultra sound and heard the heartbeat and I just... I couldn't do it. I could not do it. I cried so much and I was so scared but he's my son and I love him. Things are hard but one day things will be okay and in the meantime he is happy where he is. I think I was hoping I could shut myself off and go through with it, but I couldn't. That's why it amazes me so much when women just don't care. You see comments like just got an abortion, lost some weight lol and it's awful to me. I hate being judgemental but I just don't understand it. But like I said, I really have no place telling other women what they should/shouldn't do or how they should/shouldn't feel. It's just one of those things, I guess.
  4. Yeah, I must not have clarified well. That's how I feel. I even said I think partial-birth should be illegal. But at that point, it's not just YOUR BODY. There's a human being who is being killed; at that point I *do* think it becomes murder.

    Yeah, I've read things, and seen things. And abortion is monstrous, no matter when it's done.

    But, I just think that up until a certain point, the government shouldn't say "no, you can't do this." But, per Shorty's example, I think if a woman has an abortion at 8 months, she's a murderer, and should spend time in jail accordingly. You're telling me that it took you 5-8 months to decide you didn't want that baby? How can you justify killing it? At that point, just give it up for adoption--it's the same amount of consequence for you, but the child lives. I say that window of time, because, while an 8 month old can survive independently, a 5 month old might not. But, you can hook it up to machines and stuff...it's rough, but it can pull through. How can you say that isn't a person?
  5. Oh, I think there should be government interference because of lots of reasons that would take a while but the main one being that some people will make decisions that I personally find downright cruel of like aborting a baby 7 months in if there was no government interference. I understand there is a fine line between when it's considered a "person" and not, but 7 months it just is. That's beyond the grey area. I read up a few years ago on how abortions were performed and it was just... terrifying and disgusting. I guess some people have a disconnect or just don't care.

    I do see your point though. Governments interfere too much on some things (and not enough on others, imo) but I can see where you're coming from.
  6. I'm just kind of curious where our opinions differ. Not trying to argue, just curious.
  7. Chat tells me you were looking for me
  8. No, don't worry about that, I pretty much agree :P. I picked IX because it's my favorite and the longest part of it was narrowing it down from "The whole game" to just five moments.
  9. I just didn't want you to think I was making a snarky joke or something. It was a great article and deserved the nod!
  10. Thanks for the rep about the article! I'm glad you enjoyed it, it was a lot of work xD
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