Conversation Between The Man and Peegee

apparently, I wasn't sure if it would work, but it did I guess bbcode works

you can [teh man] bluetext in your rep???

American politics is getting so ridiculously stupid that this is looking like an increasingly pleasant idea

too complicated. come to canada. we'll just sell to china and leave the usa in the past.

*way more things about most of the English-speaking governments bother me than about certain non-English speaking governments, mainly in northern Europe.

I think it varies country to country. Some countries in EU have completely government health care (UK is one I think), some countries have mostly private (France is one). I think others are somewhat in between. My dad had to visit the hospital while we were in Belgium and it was awesome, way better health care than we get here and for much less.

I kind of want to leave this country once and for all because even paying into the U.S. war machine bothers me (even if my taxes after refunds make up a drop in the bucket) but it's where my family and most of my friends are, and moving to another country where I may not even know the language* scares me. Occupy is a step in the right direction as far as people starting to stand up to the government-industrial complex but it has its flaws as well, and I'm not even sure it'll be enough. There is too much money trying to turn this country into a police state.

oh i mean living subsidies, not services. And I figure the EU health care is like Canada's. You should come visit and check it out. It's awesome and I only want to opt out because of consistency reasons. Government candy be tasty soma.

Would be nice if people didn't need smurfing cars in the first place but this is the U.S., apparently we can't have a decent train system because freedom.

Depends on the proposal but usually. I would have it replace almost everything except things like health care where the price is unpredictable, unevenly distributed, and not accountable to personal merit. Those things would be subsidised separately by taxes along the lines of the French model, which is free market but subsidised by taxes. I can't think of anything else that would go along those lines except maybe education, but there might be something that I haven't thought of.

The problem with people on fixed income is mobility. You split their money into 4ths and it's not laziness or mathematical ineptitude but gas prices and bus fares

Btw food stamps come in the form of a debit card. But in this discussion that doesn't matter

I like negative inc tax. Does it replace welfare services ?

maybe that means welfare should probably be given in smaller payments once a week? Dunno. Though that wouldnt be very good for resource usage, unless it was just mailed or deposited in people's bank accounts or something.

Still though, negative income tax. I'm seriously convinced it would solve almost everything

edit: in fact yeah, the paper has exactly the same suggestion I have