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    "It did kind of overwrite things though, as it added dialogue that Zack gives to Cloud, the original is more poignant due to feeling more senseless whereas Crisis Core tries too hard to give Zack greater meaning."
    Which is exactly why I said it just expanded on things that were there already. It added something where something was not shown instead of directly overwriting.
    - Zack gets shot
    - Cloud crawls to Zack
    - Cloud has a crazy (normal) reaction over seeing someone die

    The only thing Nojima-san did was add something to were I wrote "blank". I cannot really compare that to Star Wars because the only thing that we got in FFVII was a flashback already putting it in a completely different position. It would basically forbid an author to say "btw. he whispered something to Cloud in his final moments" (or to be even more strict, it is forbidden for that guy to ever make a character say more than we have seen him say before). You gotta admit Genesis randomly appearing in the Nibel reactor is a way bigger thing and EVEN THAT in the most technical sense was done in a similiar fashion because a) the "false flashback" can have aas many inaccuracies as it wants and b) the "appropriate flashback" shows Cloud running inside when according to Crisis Core's logic Genesis was already gone (I am not even really defending Genesis - Genesis was the first character in the franchise that came close to me hating him but the only one who won this medal was Ardyn).
    So as mentioned, you said "it felt more senseless and gave Zack greater meaning" but, maybe you did not understand that, I already pointed that out: We had a whole game for Zack. Just shooting him down like some mob, have Cloud see this, go "aaaaaahh" and cut to the credits would kinda downplay the character that we got to know by now. This would also kinda not fit the weight he had gotten at this point. The more proper solution would have been to not make a Crisis Core at all (which I would not want as solution but that is more fitting than treating the main character of his own game like some random). To explain it further what is a more extreme retcon to me because it does not take advantage of other possibilities: Sephiroth's defeatreally flat out contradicts what happened. Sephiroth was thrown off a bridge by Cloud in the flashback. In Crisis Core he is defeated in the Jenova chamber. Or whatever the hell they made with Lucrecia in Dirge of Cerberus were she was stuck in crystal while we saw her in VII just sitting around until she was gone/died. The latter one could easily be solved in later Compilation remake additions by either having her in the crystal all the time/letting her appear in the crystal after a while or at least in an interview talk about artistic freedom 0293uv9 438z59 whatever. I mean - Dirge of Cerberus was written by someone else anyway and the whole design like the Shinra Manor just like Lucrecia's cave is different but these things really hardly have anything to do with "sticking to what was a thing" and more of "artistic freedom". It is not important for the story if her cave is full of crystal or a simple rock cave with one crystal (and it destroys me to say that because I think "of course every single detail is important" but I am pretty sure you know that I mean "for the general thing it is not important"). So yes, long story, short - I am glad they did that for Zack. I hated how he was supposedly a nobody in VII as he had to much impact on the story to make it a "clever and tragic thing" to me that Cloud switched with a mere "nobody" and then presenting that with not the slightest piece of dialogue or whatever additionally brought in would have been a punch in the player's face kinda - I knew Zack's death scene obviously as I knew VII before CC but the only thing I thought "oh well, he is gonna die by the end anyway ..." and not "oh well, I have to see this troutty death scene again that treats him like a nobody that we would not even neccessarily have seen because it was optional in the game". Maybe my priorities are too different here. Kinda only wanted to say such a thing does not really qualify for me as a retcon in the most traditional way as the main scenes stay intact and really the only thing that is kinda changed is the intensity of atmosphere and the meaning of the character but that will always happen to an extent and I would always think of "important dialogue changes" as worse than that (and some games would even benefit from dialogue changes or expansions - the best example is Kingdom Hearts).

    Well, let's go to the Eve and VIII thing instead.
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    Btw. what do you think of Parasite Eve? I replayed the first disc last year again and it so heavily reminded me of FFVIII - of course because it came out at the same time pretty much therefore shares the artstyle that Nomura-san at that time had, but also the mere "realistic pre-rendered background" thing is something that I really like and so much reminds me of VIII. Versus XIII/XV was always called "fantasy based on reality" but if you ask me, VIII is the fantasy based on reality just for because of the looks themselves. I mean - XV can't really mean it to much in regards to the themes because well, those "realistic themes" also re-appear in other FFs and the "super-realistic our-world-esque looks" thing is too obvious so it always seemed to me like that is the main reason they called it that. And well, when it comes to that - VIII was also pretty realistically looking. It seems Parasite Eve re-juvenated my enthusiasm for VIII at the same time. Well, of course even the themes are pretty realistic in VIII so if somebody really wants to talk about that, the game even got that one covered - which is no wonder because, as said, those themes are recurring for many fictional stories.
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    "Also, I hate how they did the ending and retcon Zack's final moments."

    I will never understand how that is seen by people as "retcon". I know a lot of people consider an addition a retcon as well but it is not like it overwrote something that existed. Crisis Core basically just expanded on what the original showed. They drove to Midgar, there was a battle, Zack ran to the cliff, he was shot. Crisis Core just filled in the gaps. Crisis Core's ending would not really have profited from having Zack as main but then killing him off as if he still was such an unknown guy to the player. You can't really have one without the other.
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    Sorry for taking so long. We’re having a Christening on Sunday, so we’re kinda extra busy with preparations.

    Re: Romancing SaGa - it I answered right away, I’d say I didn’t, even though the ppportunity has come up twice, but once I just said know while the other I didn’t have the funds. But currently, it’s being built. I’m also done with Gerard and my current successor is a mercenary called Orion. Since I got friendly with the Dragon Lair brawlers, I always have one in my party now. Also, now that I’m done with the mind in Ludon, the game has opened up significantly and I don’t really know which way to go next.

    Re: KH - I remember actually digging the sub skill mechanic, as it made each Keyblade really feel unique and suit a different purpose. But then I guess that also means you’re more likely to just stick to favorites because it’s mlre comfortable. You get some, you lose some.

    Re: writing - discipline is good as long as you don’t kick yourself in the face for it. I haven’t written much this week, but then I’ve had the aforementioned preparations and I’m also looking for extra work, so it’s teally important to let yourself write a little less sometimes too
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    Yeah, I’ve noticed. The reason I let Therese die is actually exactly that - I couldn’t deal enough damage to the gel blob. Also, my magic facility thing is now operational and now everyone has magic. btw, what is this logic thing? Because it seems to be backwards. Lady says the higher the logic, the lower your spell power, but my court Mage has the highest logic, with Gerard being in second place - so that would mean the actual spellcastets are the worst suited for the job
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    Well, things have changed a little bit. After Leo’s death I recruited another ranger, and now Therese has just died and I replaced her with Emerald the Mage. So I have Gerard, Heavy Infantry, Kight Infantry, Ranger and Court Mage.
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    But you know what? Thank you for talking. And who knows what Nojima-san writes for the Remake anyway. Maybe this time he will really lean it towards the thing that I do not want at all. It would destroy Final Fantasy VII because it blasts a hole in one important aspect of the narrative when it comes to the relevance of certain aspects and Cloud and Aerith's relationship and how they value each other that by many people (e.g. "Tifa only instead of value both girls as the story shows" people) is just handwaved away with this whole "true Cloud" thing (which is one of the reasons why it is so important) as big as some of Kingdom Hearts' holes but we have to see. Maybe he will use the wrong words like Nier 2 but "means the right thing". Then it would still be okay. It is one of the only ways to enjoy stuff like Nier 2 for me anyway instead of thinking "and this is the sequel to what is almost as good as FFVII to me ..." The intention has priority and if that's fine even such a broken person like me can live with it. I hope at least. Let's just hope Sephiroth does not become a fatso.
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    I’d still argue it’d be harder for me to interpret them like that, with one being very jazzy and one very impressionistic, but that’s just me. I still think the music here is great.

    I managed to kill Kzinssie and now Gerard has his blinged out armor. Found the Cat and best an octopus in the canal, so the thieves guild will now help me,and now I’ve reached this town where they’re talking about some dudes from a Dragon’s Lair or something and I’m gonna investigate that
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    I never said that's not the case what you called splintering and weak(er) to Sephiroth; but it is important what is meant. I also said a part of Cloud is seperated. It is just that you treat it as another person while I say it is not and that it does not make sense to treat it like "you and me" instead of just "a guy getting inner echo warnings from his own repressed fragments" and that those "fragments" speak about Cloud like he is another person even though they are not can be clearly seen when Tifa talks to Cloud fragments that definitely belong to him an are no literal "own entities" while he is in the Lifestream so this even more emphasizes on it being written as tricky to understand without acknowledging the full context and logic.

    Yes, Cloud would have likely "not done stuff mask Cloud did", I will always agree with that. But that does not make him another Cloud. That is why I told you there is a big big big big BIG neccessity in differentiating between "literal and metaphorical differences of self". There is always a great difference between talking about "personality" as a mere character structure and as a "self". I would never ever do stuff I did 20 years ago. Psyche change is not Death and Birth.
    When Cloud while being temporarily repressed through his own mental weakness and inner desire replaces a facette of his being with another one, then it is still his being. What you are trying to argue is the Theseus Ship paradox on a psychological basis. "Is x still x when component 1-n is replaced/missing?" and the answer is yes. That is just pseudo-philosophy that actually has answers in life. Just as an apple is an apple no matter how much you eat from it or if you randomly decide to glue something on it. That can be answered with "Apple: State ..." And that is the same with us. "Oh, you are not yourself". No. Wrong. It is impossible.
    You brought up a timeline guy. The timeline guy is not me. Why? Because despite the same origin, the same chronology trunk, he through a split (let's just say crap like timesplits are possible) has a seperate self, a seperate instance to perceive reality. He is exactly what I said before: A clone. Of course in his case he would be a clone through other means and have already changed but a clone nonetheless. Not me.
    And this is exactly why it is so important for me to differentiate these things. The woman Encina, she shares rooms with her friends in her brain. They are not her. They have their own selves. Why? Because they have their own perceptional instance. It is "not her just being forced by her body to be different" which would result in it still being her but just metaphorically different. No, it is really someone else and she experiences that. That is also why I made it very clear "btw. of course Cloud speaks to Cloud" so nobody can actually say "WAIT! You forgot!" No, believe me, I do not forget. I made it very clear this is not the kind of talk that two people have. And that this is supported by the rest of the story where Cloud actually has to live through things and not "backseat experience" because it does not make any sense in the narrative. You are aware that Cloud has a spiritual connection with Aerith and that what he associates with her is his Promised Land? Does not make sense either if he was just "the third wheel" hiding behind a driver that you want to be killed after the Mideel incident.

    Anyway, I assure you, with my neurotical disorder you have done more harm to me now than you felt when you reluctantly went back to the conversation that I for my own mental health wanted to deflect with my Kingdom Hearts comment. If you do want to know what that means, ask Psychotic. I have no problem with him telling a teeny bit about me if your question is now "wtf is going on with him right now". Maybe you now at least can kind of understand that I do not do the conversation and ad infinitum discussion stuff out of mere joy and assholery and that I suffer a lot more from this than the mere roll-eyes discussion partner that only thinks "omg this arrogant asshole again". That does not mean nobody should ever discuss with me but let's just say when we have both already let it die down, then let's leave it at that. Especially if both instances already say stuff like "I have no intention to talk further about this" (you) or "this is getting bad for me through my disorder" (me), especially as I can tell you, if it does not help me to bring up more and more points that are of almost fundamental nature and it does not contribute to my person saying "huh, okay, never thought about that and that it really would destroy the purpose of that other thing" then it only gets me more frustrated. I do not do these discussions where I seem obnoxious to people because it is my will. It is an urge on a scale that reaches far into disorder territory steming from an even worse time for me. Well, at least the disorder helps me a lot when gathering information.

    Thanks for your time.
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    I wished you would not have continued this discussion with a neurotically disturbed person so I have to apologize to you in advance that I have to fall back into this pattern which I have to use to close this. And about "don't really care about Cloud's condition" - you actually started it once I posted a list of what is misunderstood.

    The "Self" is not a matter of opinion. This is just one of the modern day tries of humanity to be pseudo-philosophical and pseudo-psychological. There are the dynamics of personality. The instance to perceive reality is the ego, which can be flat out equated with the consciousness. If the organism develops an association to itself to differentiate "there is the external source and the internal source, there is the others and there is ... this ... that is not the others ... the internal source which is located exactly where information is registered ... self" the feeling of individialism is established. What the existence of an entity as individual "self" is is NOT open to debate, I repeat, it is NOT open to debate.

    What is not the person:
    The person is not the body. The body is just a host.
    The person is not the memories. The memories merely shape the character and thus the person but the person does not "die" by getting rid of those memories, nor does a potential clone getting a replica of those memories become that person.
    The person is not just a personality structure. This goes hand in hand with the memory thing. While to the character build of course we also say "personality" and the sum of traits of course is what we are used to recognize by people as there is nothing to focus on when there is a potential blank slate, the existence of the self in an on itself is something that functions as a basic layer before all that. It can and will never be replaced. Every self is its own entity.

    You always can answer these things with a thought experiment: What can I remove and replace. You can do that with a body. You can do that with memories and character traits. But you cannot do that with someone's own awareness of themselves. I do not, I repeat, not become a literal other being by forgetting or learning. I do not live for only one moment. This is as pseudo-philosophical as it gets. A person does not die the moment it gets amnesia and does not get magically ressurected one that is over. When I die and a perfect clone with my memories is created, I do not live again just because that clone is a perfect replica of me with my memory. That guy has his own sense of self.

    And to ultimately close this: Watch the video "How it's like to live with Dissociative Identity Disorder (DiD)". The person Encina will 100% show you what an entity itself is and that she is only one of those people. She is not the others and she will never be. Cloud does not suffer from Dissociative Identity Disorder. And the "true Cloud" which you seem to imply as being a second literal person that knows Aerith is not "co-conscious" (not in the way you seem to think as another guy) just so it fits your description of still knowing her. You have to be aware of the implications of your own words and how they do not make sense. 1) It means that we run around with an entity that they want to die which is not the case (I will leave out the explanation here how alters normally do not get destroyed anyway, how it is normally impossible to get DiD when older, et cetera, especially with the latter one being handwaveable away through fiction), that 2) Cloud absolutely and without a doubt feels all that connection to Aerith (both in FFVII and VIIAC) and he cannot feel that connection if it was not him - you imply that it is still possible if he was co-conscious but someone that is co-conscious is still their own entity (as can be proven with the Encina video) and thus even while experiencing life situations still would not be "the entity that rightfully lived through the situation, became friends with somebody, etc." (in the Encina video she says one of her alters had a date - now if Encina is co-concious that does not make Encina have a date with that person, she simply witnesses) so of course I have to absolutely argue against the point that there are two literal Cloud because the entire logic of the story speaks against it. Pardon the comparison but what you say is about as logical as when the streamer SevenS1ns in DoC said "Hojo is a cyber clone, its not the real Hojo", when Hojo himself flat out said that he virtualized himself and the logic of the story is "I do not want to die, I want to become a god" instead of "I do not want to die, I want to become a god - so what do I do? I create a clone of myself that becomes a god instead and then I die". Those things are so fundamental I think even if you do not want to understand why I disagree with you you can see with that example why and how I feel when reading what you write. Cloud is the master of his illusions.
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