Shlup
is almost as funny as Nait
Quack

what did I try to credit you for? What list?

I think the difference is that I don't agree with your view on a culture that perpetuates rape. Things like asking a girl to show her tits, however crudely worded, does not perpetuate a culture of rape, in my opinion. Robin Thick's song, however lame, does not encourage rape. I think a lot of the time the idea of "every man is a potential rapist", scares women to the point where they feel uncomfortable having a conversation with a man who's just trying to be friendly (see elevator-gate). Being a victim myself of other means, I understand where you're coming from.

I agree with everything else you've said, I think that will be the extent of our eye to eye though, in this regard.

I never said crime is acceptable. Crime is not acceptable, thats why we as a society denounce it and punish those that commit crimes. Crime will happen, so you need to protect yourself. People want to be told how to stop being harrassed while they are streaming gameplay online, I provided a sugguestion that will stop it and you seem to keep going back to "Well women shouldn't have to etc" its just not logical. I dont think im being unreasonable. The areas where these injustices are accepted are not viewed as crimes, therefor they go unpunished.

After our discussion the conclusion I've come to is that you basically want to police the behaviour and thoughts of men online and expect everyone to comply without objection.
Ambitious, at the very least.

They are not inevitable. You can take pro-active measures. I feel like we're meeting back at the start of the circle we've been going in.

Let me use an example that will make this easier to understand for the both of us.
We have laws.
Laws are set in place to provide security and safety to civilians.
Consequences are set in place as a deterrant to breaking these laws.

Some people still break them anyway. It is inevitable that laws will always be broken. It isn't okay but It isn't wrong to expect this either. Why is it wrong to acknowledge this though, when we are talking about women? Why is the fight for gender and issue at all, when its humanity that people should be fighting for?

Because this is happening online, where there is no physical interaction and the safety of being behind a screen. Of course you should expect everyone to be held accountable for their actions, you shouldn't however, expect people to always be well mannered little angels. With expectations such as yours, you will always find yourself unsatisfied. The need for the doctrine of feminism is only going to make your expectations worse. You are also twisting my words. Telling you that you shouldn't expect teenagers to all be little angels does not = you should expect men to assault women.

The kind of teenagers that are making sexual comments towards women on the internet.

Yeah my point was that expecting a teenager to do what you say in many scenarios is not being realistic.

That picture looks interesting but it is too small for my terrible eyesight. And you were banned from something? D:

Oh. I didn't know an EoEO ban could do all that. No worries.

Did you get my last PM? I'm getting an error message that's saying your message quota is full.