Phoenix Rising
ain't gettin' offa this train they're on
Traitors Can't Hide.

First, is there some reason you can't leave a single visitor message instead of three? Second, when you actually link to some articles in the thread where we were having our discussion, I'll be more than happy to give your position more consideration. Third, once you stop misusing fairly common and readily understood terms, any discussion we have will probably be more productive. Fourth, simply saying that minimum wage is meant to be a starting wage and increase over time doesn't make it reality. In many jobs it will not increase barring a promotion and not even then sometimes. Fifth, when you can have a conversation without resorting to insults against those with a differing opinion, thinly veiled or otherwise like calling people Libtards, then I'll be happy to talk to you. In the meantime you aren't worth the effort.

It's amazing you speak of mental capacity and maturity when you choose to attack those who disagree with you rather than confront them rationally with evidence.

Then why are you belittling people who have to work hard to make a living?

I don't care to talk to you over visitor messages. If you have anything to say about my post, post it in the thread. Thank you.

You know, you can't really call someone who's more than 7 years your senior older than you. Just sounds strange.

And I have absolutely no problem with people disagreeing with me. I just expect them to make a reasoned, logical argument, and back it up with facts. You've yet to do that with regard to any of your wilder claims despite repeated requests to do so. The most likely reason being because you can't back those claims up. If you could, a reasonable person would have by now.

And I'm not referring to your comments in the War and Peace thread because:
A) I never engaged you in discussion there, and;
B) As far as I can tell from quickly skimming it you quoted no articles, cited no sources or anything else.

I don't know if you even know what asking for your sources means now.

Thank you :]

That speech was the only thing you linked to, and wasn't even the thing we wanted evidence of. What Obama says isn't nearly as important as what he's done and you've never done anything to prove your claims about him or anyone or anything else. Try harder kid.

Also, there are plenty of people who are able bodied and out of work through absolutely no fault of their own, and not because they choose not to work. If you don't understand that then it's not worth debating any further with you.

I... have absolutely no idea what you're talking about in terms of "having a life outside of EoFF", I never mentioned it in any way, I never demanded you post or reply faster, and I never claimed any absence of replies on your part demonstrated an inability to reply.

Anyway, you seem to be belaboring under the impression that I am trying to convince you of anything, and also implying that if I argued more pleasantly you'd be more inclined to take my points into consideration. I'm not, and you wouldn't anyway. I'm actually just amusing myself by toying with you and highlighting your opinions for the nonsensical foolishness that they are.

MILF actually does have a Master's in PoliSci. I've read all of his school papers and they were very good.

You're acting in exactly the same way. The only difference is I actually know what I'm talking about. You're just getting bumstung and crying about it because we're not rolling over and accepting your glorious enlightened "let the weak die" sociopathy.

Sorry, but you can't claim to be the one who's being realistic and who has any understanding of the world when you consistently misuse and misunderstand the simplest of terms and every request for you to back up anything you've said with actual evidence has been met with more unsupported assertions and unfounded rhetoric.

Honestly, I'm not even sure what else to say to you because you clearly don't have a sweet clue how the world actually works. Most of what separates so-called productive members of society from the dregs is pure dumb luck, but you'll probably get a lesson or two on that after you've been out of high school a bit longer. And the idea of simply letting people who don't meet your arbitrary idea of what constitutes being useful die is outright disgusting. It consistently amazes me how little value some people put on human life.

Also, John Hammond wants his line back.