Freakin' buzzword abusing morons

I wish people would try using stuff they actually know and understand and that actually reflects what they think in an argument, rather than just using other people's phrases and slogans.

Example: I was discussing how I didn't like Firefox (this was ages ago, back when it was a new program and was still full of bugs and lacked a few basic things that were always covered by IE) and, lacking an argument, this moron said "Well my browsing experience is better with Firefox".

Also, when someone was trying to convince me to vote for the Green party, I was told that "Yeah, but a vote for the Green party is a step in the right direction". Sure enough, when I quizzed him on what the hell this meant he couldn't answer.

Not my own story, this 'un, but some Ecover sales rep turned up at the door of my friend's house spouting phrases like "The planet's dying" and "It's the ethical choice" without any apparent idea of the meaning of what he was saying... my mate never asked him "Why is it the ethical choice?" but it would've been amusing to see how he tried to answer :p

And finally, when someone was giving me a load of crap for disliking the idea of war and stuff (please don't use this topic to discuss this with me as I'm in too much of a good mood as of late to do so), he said "Well without me you'd be speaking German". I promptly responded by speaking German. The conversation ended shortly after; he couldn't retort to it.

I know a lot of people have standpoints and views that they feel very strongly about but it often feels as though they're just following a crowd with them and haven't got a clue, so they just say what someone else said and act like it's their own opinion.

Thread question: Have you ever come across people who argue like this?

People who say 'Uh, no.'

in b4 uh no

Ive never come across people who argue like this, but fortunately the people i talk to couldnt care less about political issues. Or atleast not enough to argue about it without using the term 'your face'

about every person believing in evolution.. saying they have evidence and stuff.. then when i start aking questions about the first three lines they say.. they have no answers whatsoever..

just funny :)

I know some people that latch onto statistics, not so much buzz words.

But yeah, it's pretty lame. Blame advertising? :D

People at high school would throw around this stuff all the time with political issues. "Yeah but without us the terrorists would win!" or stuff along the lines of that. Basically arguing for things that they knew nothing about other than the most basic ideas.

I don't claim to know everything about everything but I do tend to keep my mouth shut if I don't have the facts to back my feelings up.

I can't stand argumentative people to begin with, let alone people who argue with nothing to back up on, so I try to not associate with people who do that.

Jesus loves you. You'll be sorry when you're BURNING IN HELL. *insert something about your soul here*

A-hem, to the question, no. Not ever in my lifetime. The mere chance is an impossibility.

I like it when you ask annoying people who try to convert you what Hell is like, to which they give some response in the area of "dark", "nasty", "everything you hate" and stuff like that, to which I usually ask "How do you know?" and then slam the door in their face.

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I can't stand argumentative people to begin with, let alone people who argue with nothing to back up on, so I try to not associate with people who do that.

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o rly?

Oh, man, I hate when people use soundbites in lieu of an actual arguement. I've noticed that creationists tend to do this.

Them- Evolution violates the second law of thermodynamics! (yes, I've heard this one. :rolleyes2 )
Me- Oh? Well, then. Explain the second law of thermodynamics.
Them- Uh...um...*insert stock comparison to tornados and junkyards and/or comments about monkeys giving birth to humans and/or accusations of communism*
Me- *headdesk*

I think people do this because that's all that they see. Hell, look at political debates.

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And finally, when someone was giving me a load of crap for disliking the idea of war and stuff (please don't use this topic to discuss this with me as I'm in too much of a good mood as of late to do so), he said "Well without me you'd be speaking German". I promptly responded by speaking German. The conversation ended shortly after; he couldn't retort to it.

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Win. :D

Reading this thread makes me wonder how eoff can have so many active members.

Working for a bullcrap telephony company with miles and miles of bureaucratic red tape, I have the joy to work with a lot of argumentative people, arguing over what's working in the house, and possible charges that the engineers bring (those engineers are sly b@st@ards, and I don't trust them... :mad:) I was arguing the same point round in circles with one man who was insistent that just by him plugging in a broadband connection, had caused his line to break down, saying 'oh, it's your fault'. I felt like saying 'Well I didn't personally come round to you house to bust up your line, however much I'd like to right now. He was a bit of a jerk to be honest. Despite that I put on the notes to the engineer (whom I eventually booked out because I just got pissed off arguing) that the person had only moved in less than a month ago and really shouldn't be held responsible for anything that had happened, and the problem had raised its ugly head after the internet connection had been established.

Another woman was moaning that since her extension were at fault, she was advised to go to an electrician (£70-£80 versus our up to £215! :eek: ) but she was whingeing, what if the socket actually on the BT socket was at fault? Then she would be out of pocket to the electrician who wouldn't be able to sort out the main one, which only a BT engineer can see to. We argued the same exact point endless times in ten minutes; I nearly told her to shut up and get the smurf over it!

Sorry to on about that nonsense

I do dislike people like that and usually such are people are either fighting a losing battle or are on a populist cause and just using buzzwords and phrases used by other people of a similar persuasion to convince others. It can be irritating but I'm sure I've probably done it at some point.

Yeah, I get that sometimes. Not necessarily a stock phrase, but things taken for granted, or ideas based on assumed things. For example, in my US Politics class gun control came up and the teacher was like "Well the current laws allow people to own semi-automatic weapons. That can't be right." and I'm thinking "... it can't? Wanna back that up?" but I couldn't be bothered making a deal out of it. I'll do that when the actual gun issue comes up this upcoming semester.