Adel was a wasted opportunity of a character (Eh, may have spoilers)

Adel is talked about, feared and mentioned a great deal throughout the game, but she only has about two spoken lines in flashbacks and then, when you finally meet her, you put a ferocious beatdown on her (or she on you, depending on how good you are at junction/tactics) and never see her again, though it is implied throughout that Adel is pure evil, avarice and selfishness. I think it's such a shame that we never really learned any more about her explicitly, other than the fact that she was basically not very nice.

Story wise she had the potential to become a much greater threat than she proved to be, although I guess you could say that another purpose she served in the story was to show just how powerful Seed truly was: they were indeed capable of taking down any sorceress, no matter how powerful or dangerous.

An interesting point I found on the FFWiki, though, is the text at Timber TV Station: the "noise" broadcast over all the frequencies is in fact lettering that spells "I WILL NEVER LET YOU FORGET ABOUT ME", "I AM ALIVE" and "BRING ME BACK THERE", theorised to be the thoughts of Adel confined in space... probably the only other direct communication she's ever shown to have with the player.

What does everyone else think? Would you have liked to see more of Adel in the story?

And what the hell is she, anyway? She's like fifteen feet tall and Laguna calls her "human" still...

What do you mean she I thought Adel was a man, hint the manish face and it has no breasts.

Yeah I agree that Adel was under used, I would've like to of seen more of her may be in the laguna flash backs at least 2 battles with some more dialog.

you don't even learn anything of her peronality which is really irrating because she becomes less the wedge and briggs

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Originally Posted by Depression Moon

What do you mean she I thought Adel was a man, hint the manish face and it has no breasts.

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Sorceress. The "ess" is a feminine noun suffix, therefore Adel is a woman.

That broadcasted message is one of the things that proves that Adel went crazy due to her suffering from her imprisonment. Ultimecia is the same. She went crazy, went back to the past to rule the world for revenge and vengeance. She knew how Adel felt, and that is why she went after her. Adel + Ultimecia = Gigantic Game Over, which will destroy all of your Memory Card saves!

I have no pure evidence to prove the next bit, but I truly feel that Ultimecia's craziness came from her imprisionment not too long before her future timeline. Such imprisionment was probably made of Esthar. It's either that her imprisonment, a representation of Artemisia, or R=U, that made her crazy.

Adel lacks her own story, just like Ultimecia. But isn't that what VIII is about?

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That broadcasted message is one of the things that proves that Adel went crazy due to her suffering from her imprisonment. Ultimecia is the same. She went crazy, went back to the past to rule the world for revenge and vengeance. She knew how Adel felt, and that is why she went after her. Adel + Ultimecia = Gigantic Game Over, which will destroy all of your Memory Card saves!

I have no pure evidence to prove the next bit, but I truly feel that Ultimecia's craziness came from her imprisionment not too long before her future timeline. Such imprisionment was probably made of Esthar. It's either that her imprisonment, a representation of Artemisia, or R=U, that made her crazy.

Adel lacks her own story, just like Ultimecia. But isn't that what VIII is about?

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I think thats the strongest case for R=U yet.
I feel VIII is one big unfinished story it would be nice if square went back to it and answered some of our questions. Much like crisis core does with VII

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Originally Posted by Serapy

That broadcasted message is one of the things that proves that Adel went crazy due to her suffering from her imprisonment. Ultimecia is the same. She went crazy, went back to the past to rule the world for revenge and vengeance. She knew how Adel felt, and that is why she went after her. Adel + Ultimecia = Gigantic Game Over, which will destroy all of your Memory Card saves!

I have no pure evidence to prove the next bit, but I truly feel that Ultimecia's craziness came from her imprisionment not too long before her future timeline. Such imprisionment was probably made of Esthar. It's either that her imprisonment, a representation of Artemisia, or R=U, that made her crazy.

Adel lacks her own story, just like Ultimecia. But isn't that what VIII is about?

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Yeah; she is only broadcasting the same three messages over and over so I imagine that she'd be a bit of a dribbling nutjob by then (instead of just an evil one).

When you say "isn't that was FFVIII is about", I'm not sure what you mean... are you saying most characters lack their own stories? Because as much as I like the game I'll be the first to admit that it feels like they were just making up the story as they went along, which can cause a bit of negligence in the character development department.

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That broadcasted message is one of the things that proves that Adel went crazy due to her suffering from her imprisonment. Ultimecia is the same. She went crazy, went back to the past to rule the world for revenge and vengeance. She knew how Adel felt, and that is why she went after her. Adel + Ultimecia = Gigantic Game Over, which will destroy all of your Memory Card saves!

I have no pure evidence to prove the next bit, but I truly feel that Ultimecia's craziness came from her imprisionment not too long before her future timeline. Such imprisionment was probably made of Esthar. It's either that her imprisonment, a representation of Artemisia, or R=U, that made her crazy.

Adel lacks her own story, just like Ultimecia. But isn't that what VIII is about?

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Yeah; she is only broadcasting the same three messages over and over so I imagine that she'd be a bit of a dribbling nutjob by then (instead of just an evil one).

When you say "isn't that was FFVIII is about", I'm not sure what you mean... are you saying most characters lack their own stories? Because as much as I like the game I'll be the first to admit that it feels like they were just making up the story as they went along, which can cause a bit of negligence in the character development department.

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Yeah I agree with that whereas in many of the other ff games the character development follow in a liner fashsion.

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What do you mean she I thought Adel was a man, hint the manish face and it has no breasts.

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Sorceress. The "ess" is a feminine noun suffix, therefore Adel is a woman.

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Rupe Hall calls himself a queen doesn't mean he's a she does it.

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What do you mean she I thought Adel was a man, hint the manish face and it has no breasts.

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Sorceress. The "ess" is a feminine noun suffix, therefore Adel is a woman.

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Rupe Hall calls himself a queen doesn't mean he's a she does it.

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And yet, all the sorceresses are female. I believe it was stated in the game...

And to top it all off Adel is a unisex name : D

Oh really? I always thought of it as a short for Adelaide, or something, which is a female name/

Maybe she's a hermaphrodite? Or maybe she took some mean steroids to win the World Olympics in Winhill?

I felt she was underdeveloped but I can say that about a lot of characters in VIII. It would have been interesting to see her clash with Ultimecia though.

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Maybe she's a hermaphrodite? Or maybe she took some mean steroids to win the World Olympics in Winhill?

I felt she was underdeveloped but I can say that about a lot of characters in VIII. It would have been interesting to see her clash with Ultimecia though.

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Adel would probably have knocked the crap out of Ultimecia. She would've walked right up to her, picked her up by the throat yelling "Gotcha!" like Jax from Mortal Kombat II and proceeded to punch the smurf out of her until she nosebled to death.

And I kinda forgot: yeah, the French version refers to Adel as a hermaphrodite at some point.

Great thread. I've always thought of Adel as a mystery character, and one that could have been pursued more. The broadcasts over the Timber TV station fueled interest in her when I first played. But then sadly, Adel, and the whole sorceress war of the past is only whispered upon in the game.