What is there to get excited by Playstation 4?

I'm a current PS3 owner and made the effort to get a 60GB PS3 because I want my PS3 to play all Playstation games. Rather than simply being wowed by graphics I like to have the biggest choice possible in games, with the PS3 already being pretty impressive and development times for the most modern, most complicated games being so great now the PS3 doesn't feel like its coming to the end of its life, it feels as if it could easily last 10-12 years. Only this year we will have GTA 5 for it which promising to be very impressive and immersive in graphics, what do we need a new console for?
The PS3's library of games isn't as comprehensive as PS2 for precisely the reason that PS3 games are much more graphics intensive and complicated in nature, the PS4 coming along can only reduce the choice in available games by shutting down the PS3 far too early.

The PS4, so is it worth it?

Having to buy a new console just to get a few new games they probably could have developed for the PS3 instead if it weren't for the "market" such as the new Uncharted and Final Fantasy, the PS4 just means the end of what is already a highly developed console for what is only an incremental bit of progress in gaming development, the PS3 was much more of a chasm leap from the PS2 in terms of technology as was the PS2 from the PS1.

Goodbye to your old games, not only is Sony planning to offer ZERO support for your PS3 library but it's also planning to be hostile to second hand games with the rumour that PS4 games might be tied to the Sony Entertainment Network online. Unsurprisingly the only access you'll get to PS2 and PS1 games will be that way too.

There's nothing that jumps out and "wows" you in terms of PS4's new features, a few of them sound nice enough but could have easily been applied to/added to the PS3. Streaming games to Vita, recording your last few minutes in gameplay, the eye movement in the controller with camera and microphone, these aren't quantum type leaps like the last time such as the Blu-Ray drive over DVD, the ability to use Wi-Fi for the first time and network gaming in the box, the PS4 is a victim I feel of the PS3 actually being so good, so good that the improvement over the PS2 was massive, it felt exciting to get a PS3 but I'm stopping there.

The PS4 will probably pack less features than that first PS3 60GB with the PS2 backwards compatibility, it'll probably have no SD card reader, it's rumoured not to be playing Audio CD's yet it has the same Blu-Ray drive, it's all about the graphics which I feel are already impressive on the PS3, the PS3 even offers 3D in games already and support for 3D Blu-Rays! The only thing the PS4 will do is bring it on par with PC gaming as it's improved, but big flippin' deal the key thing to making games fun is ideas and content. Nintendo isn't the front runner of graphics and their consoles are underpowered yet some of their games are indeed the most fun, surely Playstation must realise this too? If you keep changing consoles every 5 minutes and closing each library off, then you're not build up a lot of content are you?

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Well, it's something a lot of live people are pondering so I guess I'll jump in.

It's actually a good question. You got Ni No Kuni, God of War: Ascension, The Last of Us, Beyond: Two Souls, and now GT6 coming out on PS3 this year. That's a killer lineup, and buffered by the last few years, it does make upgrading from a PS3 a very tough sell. But more importantly, I feel like this generation still hasn't given us what we're entitled to as gamers. The PS3 hasn't had its "Dragon Quest VIII" or "Final Fantasy XII," those ridiculously epic in scope games you can play, explore, dissect, and critique for years to come. Maybe some feel Ni No Kuni did that? I don't know. But I feel like this generation started off an ambitious, a lot of games testing the waters for what was possible, but over time everybody just kind of scaled down the creativity and settled in the middle for action games with a few big set pieces here and there.

I'm only going to upgrade because I can afford it, and I really want to play the next games from Sucker Punch, Guerilla, and Evolution. I'm real excited to see what Naughty Dog and Santa Monica are working on at E3. I'm really interested in what the streaming infrastructure will bring, especially for the sharing features. Buffing up my profile with content is one of my favorite things to do on Steam, this looks to be taking it much further.

But no, I don't think upgrading to PS4 is that much of a necessity for most people, especially if you're not a fan of Sony's first party studios.

Like always I will most likely wait a little bit before getting the PS4.... I give it a little time for the tweaks in the patches to be thrown out there and a decent catalog of games to be on it.

I do agree with Bolivar with the lack of epic rpg's... every other Sony console had countless rpg's that just drew you in while the PS3 had only enough that you could count on a hand or two. They had the NIS games which are very niche games to say the least, FF13 which took 3 parts for them to tell and took less time to do all the side stuff and complete the game than most other ff's, Ni No Kuni which was epic yes, but really I want more. I guess they though they had enough rpg's because of games like elder scrolls, kingdoms of amalur, and fallout...
I don't know though that is just my thought.. I love Sony but they need to step their games up... I will say they are grabbing me with beyond two souls though.. granted quantic dream is the tits

I'll definitely get one. From what I can tell, it will be a pretty sweet machine. Of course all that matters is that it has good games, but it will only take one big-ticket RPG from SE to get me on board.

Agreed, shinier explosions are no reason for me to get a PS4. When my ps3 broke down a couple months ago I actually made the decision to buy a new 320gb ps3 slim, along with playstation plus. Brilliant, new free games to play each month and enough space to leave all my games installed.

I don't need better graphics and that unfortunately always seems to hook the crowd. I want original gameplay, an engaging story and a deep experience. The only games that have truely given me that on ps3 are Deus Ex HR, Hitman Absolution and most of all: Dark Souls. Not that much eh? So I agree a new console isn't really what I want right now.

Dark Souls 2 is heading to ps3 late this year/early 2014 and that is all I care about right now. Sony won't get me hyped by showing shiny ps4 cinematic trailers.

The biggest reasons I can see for a PS4 are Infamous: Second Son, and Suda51 saying he was excited about what he could do on this new system. And if you know me, you know I have a boner for Suda.

Really the only draw for me to get a PS4 is the vain hope that Versus XIII is released on it as an exclusive PS4 release.

Besides that? Eh. For me the PS4 barely manages to attain 'next-gen' status.

So far none of the next gen consoles have me interested. I've been seeing the Wii2 around stores and I just go meh. When the Wii and PS3 and XBOX360 came out, I was losing my mind trying to get them. The PS4 not having backwards compatibility at all is a major no sell point for me.

it not being backwards compatible doesn't mean anything to me. I keep all my systems so i have no need. On top of that the fact that it isn't means it is cheaper than if they had to put the hardware to make it backwards compatible. But then again that is just me

It all comes down to how much money you have, how much you want to play a game and how long you want to wait for a larger game library. There might be other reasons, but that's the general gist of it for me. I'm sure I'll be buying one once a game I really want to play comes out exclusively for it, and I'm sure this will happen at some point. I might buy it earlier to try things out if I have the cash, but it's hard to say anything for certain.

Having a PS3 doesn't matter to me because I have the PS3... it's not like I'm going to be giving it up the moment I get a PS4.

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What is there to get excited by Playstation 4?

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Another few years of people arguing over which console is better

That excites you?

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I'm looking forward to InFamous: Second Son, Knack, Deep Down and whatever the new Final Fantasy is going to be for the PS4.

But I don't know that I'll buy one at launch. The PS3 still has several games I've been meaning to play but haven't, and it also has some upcoming titles I'm very much looking forward to; The Last of Us, Beyond: Two Souls, Lightning Returns: Final Fantasy XIII, Final Fantasy X | X-2 HD Remaster, Kingdom Hearts 1.5 HD Remix, Final Fantasy Versus XIII, Watch Dogs and Assassin's Creed IV: Black Flag. I know the latter two are getting PS4 releases as well but it certainly wouldn't stop me from playing the PS3 versions.

I think the PS4 is just bursting with potential and I'll definitely buy one. I just don't know when yet.