Prop 68

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11-03-2004, 12:52 AM
Shlup

Prop 68

Prop 68... I don't understand too much about it. It will supposedly allow "Vegas-sized casinos around parks and schools," which is a retarded thing to say because there are still zoning laws. The other side says Indians'll have to pay tax because of it.

I voted yes on 68. Why? Vegas-sized casinos all over California sounds awesome.
11-03-2004, 01:08 AM
Calliope

Wouldn't that boost crime and gambloring and all sorts of unsavoury activity around childlings?
11-03-2004, 01:30 AM
Shlup

Hell yes it would! :rock:
11-03-2004, 01:49 AM
Strider

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Originally Posted by Bill Lockyer, Attorney General of California

- Authorizes the Governor to negotiate tribal compact amendments requiring that Indian tribes pay 25% of slot machine/gaming device revenues to government fund, comply with multiple state laws, and accept state court jurisdiction.
- If compacted tribes don't unanimously accept required amendments within 90 days, or if determined unlawful, authorizes sixteen specified non-tribal racetracks and gambling establishments to operate 30,000 slot machines/gaming devices, paying 33% of net revenues to fund government public safety, regulatory, social programs.
- Provides exemption from specified state/local tax increases.

I think it's trying to say that because the governor could have the power to negotiate deals with Indian tribes, it provides them the opportunity to place all of these slot machines (not so much casinos, they aren't mentioned so far as I can see) in or near metropolitan areas.

Most of the generated money, which most fiscal analysts place somewhere around $1 billion per year, would go to local governments. Spiffy. The argument of opponents to this proposition is that, ultimately, it's a self-serving proposal that brings a lot of potentially dire consequences, as Calliope pointed out.
11-03-2004, 02:52 AM
Yamaneko

I voted "no" on all the propositions that would sink us farther into debt, except the one for stem cell research and the one for keeping certain emergency rooms open.
11-03-2004, 03:47 AM
Shlup

I voted "no" on the stem cell research one because it raises taxes and forces people who are morally against stem cell research to support it, while there are no restrictions on privately funded research. A ton of rich people are for it, including Bill Gates and the founder of eBay. If the two of them each donated half of the $3,000,000,000 a year that prop would require out of their approximate $40,000,000,000 each they wouldn't even notice the dent.
11-03-2004, 06:29 AM
Peegee

The idea that some bozo can just write off a 1.5 billion dollar cheque(ck) drives me bananas.

So keep us posted about this prop 68. I want to be able to see partying everywhere in Cali when I visit!
11-03-2004, 09:08 AM
TheAbominatrix

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Originally Posted by ShlupQuack

I voted "no" on the stem cell research one because it raises taxes and forces people who are morally against stem cell research to support it, while there are no restrictions on privately funded research. A ton of rich people are for it, including Bill Gates and the founder of eBay. If the two of them each donated half of the $3,000,000,000 a year that prop would require out of their approximate $40,000,000,000 each they wouldn't even notice the dent.

Yep. All the proposition does is make the taxpayers fund university research done on existing stem cells. No new stem cells can be used, gathering them from aborted fetus' is still illegal. It doesnt change anything, it just comes from our pocket if it passes.
11-03-2004, 03:08 PM
Yamaneko

We are creating a whole new industry with that, though. More jobs here in California.
11-03-2004, 08:45 PM
Strider

Well, the proposition went down hard. So much for your dreams, Mandee.
11-03-2004, 10:22 PM
TheAbominatrix

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Originally Posted by Yamaneko

We are creating a whole new industry with that, though. More jobs here in California.

More jobs for who? Super qualified scientist types?
11-03-2004, 10:29 PM
theundeadhero

Prostitutes. They gotta work somewhere. You can't just sit out on a random street corner any more. You gotta do it with style!
11-03-2004, 10:33 PM
TheAbominatrix

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Originally Posted by theundeadhero

Prostitutes. They gotta work somewhere. You can't just sit out on a random street corner any more. You gotta do it with style!

Oh I understand. The prostitutes can go get knocked up, have abortions, and then give them to the universities for moneys.
11-03-2004, 11:25 PM
ZeZipster

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Originally Posted by ShlupQuack

Hell yes it would! :rock:

XD
11-03-2004, 11:31 PM
Shlup

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Originally Posted by Strider

Well, the proposition went down hard. So much for your dreams, Mandee.

*crushed*