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I just beat Gizamaluke and detected that he had an Ice Staff on him, but I tried stealing it about a dozen times but to no avail. I just recieved the message: "Couldn't steal anything"
Do I have to weaken enemies for a higher steal success rate or is it just random?
Um ...randomized maybe? Dunno.
Aside from the Bandit ability I know no other way to increase the odds of successful stealing. Some people say Speed affects the success rate, some say Spirit, but I have seen neither have any affect.
The ice staff is just one of those items that take a long time to steal (or at least it has for me every time I've played through). Be patient and you will get it, it will teach you slow and blizzara if I remember right. The earliest time you can recieve it after that is on the second disk when you go to Treno with Garnet.
EDIT: It really isn't essential that you steal it right now. You can get the Lightning Staff in burmecia, then steal the Flame Staff from Black Waltz 3, and you will be in Treno soon after that (where you can buy all three staffs). So pretty soon you will be getting the Lightning staff which will keep you busy learning the Thundara spell until you recieve the other staffs.
Ah, ok.. cool. Thanks for the info.Quote:
Originally Posted by Polyonymous
the main thing i steal from bosses in the early game is the mithril knife from sealinon.its good to get blizzara early but hardly neccasary seems as youll be powerful enough without it.and also i think stealing has a higher chance of working if you have higher luck.
The instruction booklet that comes with FFIX says that a higher Spirit increased that likelihood of success for stealing, Iai Strike, Shock, etc. ect. and increased the likelihood of success and longevity of status effects.Quote:
Originally Posted by SoftReset
The instruction booklet is full of ---- as far as I'm concerned when it comes to stealing.
I have several examples to the contrary. It was my second playthrough and I had the strategy guide and saw that I could steal a Fairy Flute from Hilgigars. That's a whole disc worth of time before you can buy it, so I thought that was a pretty good steal (get it, steal......leave me alone). So I played up until that point and I tried to steal it. I made sure Bandit was equipped. So I steal, it fails, I steal, it fails, I steal, I get a Phoenix Down, I steal, it fails, I steal, it fails, I steal, it fails, I steal, I get a Mythril Fork, I steal, it fails, I steal, it fails.....one hour and ten minutes later I give up out of sheer frustration. I don't give up on things very easily though, so I wasn't done yet. I tried this three more times, thinking that it was just a matter of luck, but received similar results as before. I knew there had to be some way to get this. So I looked around and couldn't find an answer. Then I looked in the instruction booklet and saw what the Spirit stat did. So, I looked at my equipment and made some changes for Zidane. Now, but raising Zidane's Spirit a mere 1 point, I stole the Phoenix Down and Mythril Fork on the first two tries and stole the Fairy Flute in a mere 32 mintues. 1 point of Spirit cut the time to steal a really rare steal by at least half the time (who knows how much time it actually saved me because I gave up at a little more than an hour, so I don't know how long it would have taken with a Spirit of one point less). So I'd say Spirit has quite a large effect on stealing.
And when I saw the guide for getting max stats, I played another game where I got Zidane's Spirit rather high. I was able to steal the Mythril Sword from Beatrix while in Burmecia before time ran out. I could steal the Demon Mail from Tantarian before running out of MP/gil and dieing. And I stole the Fairy Flute from Hilgigars in 18 minutes with a higher Spirit stat than before. So, by my experience, I going to have to say that Spirit does greatly improve the chance for stealing.
Okay then, I'll test it with Zidane having 255 Spirit and see what happens.
I've always used Pythons for Thievery powering, and I know how difficult it is to get all four items from them. By your example I should get them all in a row, one two three four, or at least have next to no difficulty with it.
I'll let you know how it goes.
It's zip pockets. Gizamaluke had them fitted in his trousers because idiots like Zidane kept trying to steal his Ice Staff.
exactly. and the reason you can't steal moogle pie is because gizamaluke already ate it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Old Manus
but really, i thought theivery was based on luck or speed. i've NEVER heard of spirit.
The skill Thievery is based on Speed and the number of successful steals. Spirit is just one of the stats that the characters have.Quote:
Originally Posted by G SpOtZ
so... what does spirit exactly do again? all the others are fairly obvious. what does spirit increase u think?
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Originally Posted by SeeDRankLou
Raises your magic defence, I thought.Quote:
Originally Posted by G SpOtZ