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right... I don't know if this has already been discussed...
But, as we all may know, there are lots of kids who contracted Geostigma, and so did Cloud.
We've seen that there are those who got Geostigma ending up dying, hence, the guy in the wheelchair. Since Geostigma is so serious even to the point of being fatal, does that mean that Denzel and Cloud are eventually gonna be paralyzed or perhaps die very young?
Yes.
PS: The guy in the wheelchair isn't paralyzed, he is putting on an act all along.
tht should of been a spoiler...but ne wayz they r all cured in the end
Actually.. I don't think the guy in the wheelchair is just in there from Geostigma (SPOILER)he did kinda get blown up in FFVII so that might have contributed to itQuote:
Originally Posted by Hiraku
Well that should've been a spoiler too you know :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Tifa's Real Lover(really
**unmarked Advent Children and On the Way to a Smile Spoilers**Quote:
Originally Posted by Hiraku
Geostigma is invariably fatal, and Cloud and Denzel would have eventually died, had the condition not been cured. That being said, however, Geostigma does not lend itself to paralysis. Rather, it manifests itself with paroxysms of intense pain, extended fatigue, and discoloration of the afflicted area. A sticky black substance is also often expelled by the victim.
In Advent Children, we never actually see anyone die from Geostigma, although it is made very clear that the condition will, inevitably, lead eventually to death. In Kazushige Nojima's novella On the Way to a Smile, however, we see several notable individuals, including Mrs. Levy, die from Geostigma. However, it becomes obvious that the interval between contact with the tainted Lifestream and actually exhibiting Geostigma is random, as is the time period between manifesting it and actually dying. In On the Way to a Smile, Mrs. Levy displays the condition immediately after coming into contact with the corrupted Lifestream, and dies within a few minutes. However, other characters take months, even years, to show signs of Geostigma, and the time prior to death also ranges widely.
The WCM has Geostigma; this is why he is seen at the end being healed by the rain. However, he is not paralyzed (note that he stands up when he reveals the "head of JENOVA"). Rather, his staying wheelchair-bound was part of an moderately elaborate farce intended to keep the SHM from accomplishing their goal.
How Rufus survived Diamond Weapon's attack on Midgar in FFVII is never fully explained. Rufus attempts to tell Cloud, but is cut off, leaving us to make our own guesses. Having said that, however, any injuries he may have sustained as a result of the attack are certainly healed, as he was able to stand, in spite of having Geostigma.Quote:
Originally Posted by Azure
i heard somewhere that Rufus had been injected with Jenova cells after the Weapon attack, so he could heal quickly or something...
Can anyone contract geostigma? or did cloud and rufus have it because they had been injected with Jenova cells? Why is it that all the kids get it - except marlene, and the only adults that get it (in the movie - i havnt read the novella) are rufus and cloud?
But we never see him stand up for very long. He stands up briefly when he's with Kadaj, before jumping off the building. I'm not saying it paralysed him, I'm saying he could be in a wheelchair due to injuries he did substain from that. Though as Cloud never let him explain.. :D Its anyone's guess.Quote:
Originally Posted by Masamune∙1600
I think that Geostigma is infectious. In On A Way to a Smile (SPOILER)I seem to remember Denzel contracting it after helping a small boy who was dying of the diseaseQuote:
Originally Posted by Blitz Ace
Paralysis (or even grave injury) would not allow for one to stand, regardless of the duress involved with a given situation. Moreover, Rufus is able to stand easily, and bears no signs of infirmity other than the dressings for his Geostigma. Also of note is that Advent Children takes place a full two years following the events of FFVII, during which Rufus would have recovered from anything less than permanently incapacitating; this is further affirmed by the fact that Geostigma manifests itself in fatigue (so the chair would have been slightly useful in that regard). The wheelchair was undoubtedly a ruse.Quote:
Originally Posted by Azure
As to the matter of how Rufus survived, it's purely a matter of speculation until such time as SE makes a definitive statement regarding the incident.
Actually, Geostigma is not contagious. Take note of the fact that Tifa and Marlene are frequently close to Cloud and Denzel, yet show no concern that they might contract the condition. More importantly, On the Way to a Smile suggests that Geostigma is not infectious.Quote:
Originally Posted by Azure
The reality of Geostigma is that it was contracted by coming into contact with the tainted Lifestream, which was corrupted when Sephiroth's body was destroyed at the end of FFVII. When the Lifestream reinforced Holy at Midgar, the Spirit Energy carried this contamination, and those who came into contact with the Lifestream were afflicted with the disorder. Rufus, although he survived, was presumably still in Midgar during the Meteor/Holy/Lifestream incident, and thus came into contact with the Lifestream, setting the stage for the eventual emergence of his Geostigma. The same holds true for Denzel; On the Way to a Smile explicitly reveals his contact with the Lifestream.Quote:
Originally Posted by On the Way to a Smile, Denzel, 1-3
While Geostigma can vary in how long it takes to appear (Mrs. Levy exhibits the symptoms immediately) and how long it takes to cause death (Mrs. Levy dies almost immediately, while Gaskin survives at least a month after the first evidence of Geostigma), it's clear that Rufus, Denzel, and the children contracted it by coming into contact with those glowing green tendrils of Spirit Energy.Quote:
Originally Posted by On the Way to a Smile, Denzel, 1-2