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it is known that lucrecia gave birth to sephiroth, and that hojo is sephiroths father. it is also known that lucrecia loved vincent, and not hojo.
William Shakespeare wrote a poem called "The Rape of Lucrece" (which is rather long and can be found here if youre interested).
Significance? Maybe Lucrecia's story and Sephiroths creation is much more devistating than we first thought..
Actually, it can't be said for certain that Lucrecia ever loved Vincent. We only know that that he loved her (Quite obviously).
nice, i love thatQuote:
Originally Posted by TurkSlayer
During the Renaissance, there was a woman named Lucrezia Borgia (don't ask how I know this). She was the daughter of Rodrigo Borgia/Pope Alexander VI and used as a pawn. She was married three times in her life for political reasons; each marriage ended unhappily. Kinda like Sephiroth's mom, in some strange way?
And Gonzaga, Zack's hometown, was actually the name of the ruling family of an Italian province during the Renaissance.
Kinda weird.
square likes usin historical facts in thier games
Except that I'm pretty sure (If someone wants to go check the script, or is a Vincent fan and knows this for sure that would be cool) that it explicitly said that Lucrecia loved another, Hojo.
Yeah that does sound familiar
On disc 2 after you acquire the submarine you can visit Lucrecia. Travel to the Waterfall Cave, which is in the Nibel area. Get out with Vincent in your party and go into the cave. You'll see a kind of shrine and Vincent will walk towards it.
After Vincent have a chat with Lucrecia,We enter a series of scenes with no dialogue.
This show Lucrecia rejecting Vincent and chose Hojo instead.Quote:
- We are back in Nibelhiem, many years ago. There are three scientists in walking toward the Shinra mansion: Hojo, Gast, and Lucrecia.
-They are followed by a man in a Turks uniform, the young Vincent.
- The scene changes to Vincent and Lucrecia walking through Nibelheim Town Square, arm in arm.
- The scene changes to outside the mansion. Vincent is handing something to Lucrecia, (an engagement ring?). Lucrecia starts to cry and runs away shaking her head. Vincent stands and watches helplessly.- The scene changes again and we see Hojo and Lucrecia at
the gate, kissing. Vincent appears, stares sadly a moment, then leaves before they see him
It seems like from Vincent's POV that Lucrecia is happy.Quote:
Vincent's Voice - "If she is happy then... I don't mind."
This show that Vincent is against the experiment and the sliver hair dude that make million of fanboys and girls wet their pants is born.Quote:
- The scene changes to the top floor of the Nibelheim Inn; Lucrecia has her
head in her hands)
- The scene changes to the laboratory in the basement of the Shinra mansion.
Hojo and Lucrecia stand side by side, on one side of the room, Vincent on the other.)
Vincent - "I'm against it! Why experiments on humans!?"
Hojo - "She and I are both scientists!!"
(The screen goes black.)
Vincent's Voice - "After that, a child was born to Lucrecia...
That child's name is...
Sephiroth..."
This part is bascially about Vincent and things didn't go so well for Lucrecia.Quote:
- The scene changes back to the top of Nibelheim Inn, Lucrecia collapse on the floor.
- The scene changes back to the laboratory. Vincent and Hojo argue heatedly,
Hojo begins to lose it and in his fury shoots Vincent.
- The scene changes to show Vincent having been tied to an operating table.
Hojo works away on the unconscious Vincent.
- When the scene changes again Hojo is gone and Vincent is alone. He gets up and looks at himself, the shaking he raises both fists to the sky and the scene fades to black.
Vincent - "Urrrrrrrrgh!!"
Vincents Voice - "This body is... the punishment that's been given to me...I was unable...... to stop Professor Gast and Hojo... And Lucrecia... I wasn't unable to stop them...All that I was able to do was watch... That is my punishment..."
This show why Lucrecia is still lurking around in that cave. Later, Vincent will tell her that Sephiroth is dead and she will dissappear.Quote:
(We are back in the cave with Lucrecia and Vincent.)
Vincent - "Lucrecia... You're alive..."
Lucrecia - "I wanted to disappear... I couldn't be with anyone... I wanted
to die... But the Jenova inside me wouldn't let me die... Lately, I
dream a lot of Sephiroth... My dear, dear child. Ever since he was
born I never got to hold him, even once... Not even once. You can't
call me his mother... That... is my sin..."
PS: You can return here in disc 3 to get Vincent's ultimate weapon & limit break.