Seifer and Sorceress Knights

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08-31-2006, 04:00 PM
Enyu

Seifer and Sorceress Knights

I'm new here, so I don't know if this topic has been brought up before, but there's this question I've had for a while now concerning Seifer, as Edea and Ultimecia's "Knight".
What exactly motivated him to become a Sorceress Knight to begin with. Quistis says on the third disc that Seifer was not pursuing his dream as a knight because of his loyalty to matron, since he sided with Ultimecia afterwards.
So what is it exactly that made Seifer want to become a Sorceress Knight so badly? In the game, he was almost obsessive about it.
08-31-2006, 04:38 PM
Hyperion4444

I know he rented the book in the library.
I am most sure he saw the Sorceress Knight film featuring Laguna.
(He does the same signature move with his Gunblade.)

You wondering why he's got that obsession.

Well, I wonder,
Why didn't he stop Edea from Firing the Garden?
Why did he go retrieve the Lunatic Pandora in the Ocean?
Why at the End he wants to be a ''young revolutionair''?
Why he threw Rinoa at Adel?

I may got the anwser, but it ain't pretty for Seifer.

The way Ultimecia takes control of other Sorceresses.
She sends him dreams, for Seifer becoming a Knight.
She is deceiving him. Ultimatly, controlling him.

He was good. He was.
If only he could have stayed good.
He was much stronger as a hero than vilain

Yet the final question remains open.
08-31-2006, 05:29 PM
sephirothishere

i think hes cool....hes messed up though..
08-31-2006, 06:25 PM
King-Killer

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Originally Posted by sephirothishere

i think hes cool....hes messed up though..

Exactly my though too.
08-31-2006, 06:39 PM
Enyu

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Originally Posted by Hyperion4444

Well, I wonder,
Why didn't he stop Edea from Firing the Garden?
Why did he go retrieve the Lunatic Pandora in the Ocean?
Why at the End he wants to be a ''young revolutionair''?
Why he threw Rinoa at Adel?

That's exactly what made me think this was an obsession. He did all these horrible things just to become a sorceress knight.

As to that thing with the brainwashing or whatever you call it, it made me think that Edea (Ulti) could have done that to him from the beginning when he was in Timber, since he was at first reluctant to go with her, but then he was all of a sudden waving goodby to Squall.
08-31-2006, 06:50 PM
*~Angel Wing~*

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Originally Posted by King-Killer

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Originally Posted by sephirothishere

i think hes cool....hes messed up though..

Exactly my though too.

Yeah Seifer is cool. :cool: [not as cool as Squall!!! :heart:]

Seifer is not messed up...he has a dream just like everyone else.

:heart: *~Right and wrong are not what separate us and our enemies. It's our different standpoints, our perspectives that separate us. Both sides blame one another. There's no good or bad side. Just two sides holding different views~* :heart:

Squall Leonhart - Final Fantasy VIII

Just because Seifer thinks differently from other people doesn't mean he's "messed up". :nonono:
08-31-2006, 06:56 PM
Bart's Friend Milhouse

It's his romantic dream. He fancies Edea of course
08-31-2006, 07:08 PM
McLovin'

Because he is a villain and they all think evil.
08-31-2006, 07:15 PM
King-Killer

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Originally Posted by Magus of Zeal

Because he is a villain and they all think evil.

Who said anything about evil?

EDIT: I've seen some vilain turned hero, and some hero turned into vilain...
08-31-2006, 07:21 PM
Enyu

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Originally Posted by mobiletype

It's his romantic dream. He fancies Edea of course

I don't think that's the reason. Otherwise, he wouldn't have went on serving Ultimecia.
08-31-2006, 07:27 PM
King-Killer

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Originally Posted by Enyu

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Originally Posted by mobiletype

It's his romantic dream. He fancies Edea of course

I don't think that's the reason. Otherwise, he wouldn't have went on serving Ultimecia.

She did say.

Ultimecia: Find the legendary Lunatic Pandora said to be buried in the seas, only then will the sorceress return dreams.

Or, something like that...

Seifer: As you wish, Ultimecia.

So, as you can see, she's playing with his emotions and dreams.
08-31-2006, 07:27 PM
McLovin'

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Originally Posted by King-Killer

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Originally Posted by Magus of Zeal

Because he is a villain and they all think evil.

Who said anything about evil?

EDIT: I've seen some vilain turned hero, and some hero turned into vilain...

What?

Evil in a sense that he does not do good...:mog:
Until Squall kicks his ass and Raijin and Fuijin turn on him, he changes his mind cause he is a weenie.

For lack of a better term.
08-31-2006, 07:34 PM
King-Killer

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Originally Posted by Magus of Zeal

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Originally Posted by King-Killer

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Originally Posted by Magus of Zeal

Because he is a villain and they all think evil.

Who said anything about evil?

EDIT: I've seen some vilain turned hero, and some hero turned into vilain...

What?

Evil in a sense that he does not do good...:mog:
Until Squall kicks his ass and Raijin and Fuijin turn on him, he changes his mind cause he is a weenie.

For lack of a better term.

I don't understand?
Are you saying Seifer is evil?
08-31-2006, 07:40 PM
McLovin'

Yes.

Then no.
08-31-2006, 07:48 PM
King-Killer

Then we agree.

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