God I couldn't stand an hour of tactics. The game is literally unplayable. How do people eat this crap up?
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God I couldn't stand an hour of tactics. The game is literally unplayable. How do people eat this crap up?
Once you get past the Dorter Trade City battle it gets frighteningly good.
It is tedious, and the localization makes me want to vomit blood, but it did have quite a charm. Some battles could be really fun (and challenging), and the soundtrack definitely deserves merit. And once you decipher what the hell is going on in the plot and dialogue (or take the optional narcotics otherwise), the plot and values learned in the story are quite rewarding.
Perhaps strategy-RPGs just aren't your thing? They move much slower and revolve almost completely around battles. Hmm, I didn't like this game at first either, but I went back later and I found it completely enjoyable :cat: Maybe give yourself some more time to understand everything so it's nice and fluid.
I was going to bite your head off, but seeing the controlled manner with which the others responded, i will try to do the same. And I would like it if you could give reasons why you didn't like it.
Granted, the translation is horrible and barely understandable. Yes, some fights are hard (i was stuck at Dorter for so long I actually traded the game in for FFIX before eventually buying FFT again).
The fights are also somewhat complicated.
And yes, the story was so amazingly complex I had no clue what the hell was happening half the time (I constantly had to ak myself, "who is that?").
But...
I liked the graphics very much.
The music was great.
The story was complex and very interesting.
The battles were fun and challenging.
Ample character customization options.
Over all, I feel that it is one of the best games I've ever played.
I beg to differ. And if you gave it only an hour of your time, you may have not given it a proper chance.
I'll give the reasons I like it so much, many of which have already been alluded to:
The flexible job system gives the player the most freedom to customize units of any FF, even beyond what FFV or FFX-2 offers. The real fun is the mixing and matching of primary and secondary skill sets. You can have a Knight with Black Magic or a Geomancer that can jump like a Lancer. It's all up to you.
A huge roster of generic and unique characters to choose from, so you can pick and choose the characters that best suit your gameplay style. You can even recruit most enemy monsters, and breed more powerful ones from them. They can fight with your party or be poached for rare items and weapons.
Random battles. A surprising number of tactical games (like Suikoden Tactics and Kartia) don't have them. It takes a bit of fun out of this sort of game to not be able to build up your party with random encounters.
A lot of interesting and involving subquests. You can recruit a slew of optional characters and get rare items and Gil for completing them. Arguably some of the best characters in the game are optional.
I found the music quite well done and stirring, although not the best FF soundtrack out there. It certainly wasn't annoying.
It's moderately difficult to get through the game once, but the real challange is mastering everything. Which I found addictive.
I've never been able to get into FFT, it's like pulling teeth. I love SRPGs though, I'm having a great time playing though Vandal Hearts again, for exanmple.Quote:
Originally Posted by LunarWeaver
And I've tried to like FFT, I really have, but it winds me up something terrible. First, you can only have five people per battle. WTHUX is up with that? Second you can spend forever building someone up, only for them to die and you lose it all. It's just... ugh. Hugely overrated.
Ugh. I hate that.Quote:
Originally Posted by I'm my own MILF
I liked this game, but I preferred Tactics Advance. It was just executed better.
Hated the game and haven't played it since the day I got it. It's just not my style.
Well, it depends of what kind of games do you like,because you probably dont like the strategy games, but, for example, i dont like to play one game of Resident Evil, but not because of that im going to say that that game is the worst ever made(its great, really, but i dont like to play it:lol: )but i would say that is cool, i mean, just because i dont like something i dont have to call it crap.
Besides,is a great game:
The music is GREAT
the history is one of the bests of all the games( well, thats my opinion)
The grapics are awesome (they are the masters of mixing 3D with 2D)And is a wonderful strategy game.
I understand that you probably dont like it, but there is no reason for you to call it crap.:kaoplain:
Oh my god, I can't believe this thread actually exists.
First of all, FFT is often touted as the one game that everyone will like. Even people who despise Final Fantasy seem to love FFT.
Second, as BG said, giving it an hour is not giving it a fair chance. If it's your first time through the game, an hour is probably only one or two battles, and pushing Circle really fast through all the dialogue. You'd like the game more if you played it.
Third, I love Vandal Hearts, but mostly because of its similarities to FFT.
One thing I hated about VH was making sure that all 10 of my guys had gone. I'd go to "Turn Over" and then realize I forgot to use Dolan that turn, and that sucks. And now that guy I might've killed just killed Ash and BOOM, game over. FFT regulates who goes when by combining a lot of factors, including their speed and the last move you had them do.Quote:
First, you can only have five people per battle. WTHUX is up with that?
This only happens if you're really lousy at the game. They die, and then you have four turns to resurrect them before they're gone for good. You can even finish the battle with them laying on the ground and you'll still have them. You can even finish with RAMZA, the main guy, laying face down, and still win the battle. I've only lost one person and I've been playing FFT A LOT for almost 10 years.Quote:
Second you can spend forever building someone up, only for them to die and you lose it all.
Okay, you need to chillax on this. Going into a message board full of FFT wackos and posting something like this is a bad idea. Fortunately, most of these people are fairly civilized (except that crazy Despotus guy) and you weren't completely railed, but I'll bet if you posted a two line post in the FFX-2 board about how FFX-2 was terrible, you'd get aced pretty quick.Quote:
God I couldn't stand an hour of tactics. The game is literally unplayable. How do people eat this crap up?
Furthermore, when I first played FFT (within the first hour), I was very confused. I had never really played a Strat RPG and I had no idea what was going on. I loved FF1-7, and I rented FFT one night, and I kept dying on the Gariland Magic City fight because I didn't know I was supposed to bring other guys into the fight, so I kept entering the fight with only Ramza and the AI Delita. I was so frustrated, until I accidently pushed R1 and place a squire.
Then I figured out the basics of battling. I noticed that along with gaining exp, we also gained "JP" and I eventually learned how sweet that is, too. I learned that with this JP, I could buy new moves for my characters and unlock new job classes that were previously unavailable for use.
Then I stumbled upon Igros Castle, where I went to the shop (because I didn't ever click on Gariland) and bought some awesome equipment, and then learned that my Squires couldn't use heavy armor! So I tried turning one into a knight, and I freaked out when I heard the little song play as that beam of light transformed him into a knight.
You see where I'm going? I never played the tutorial or looked up any online guides or any books or anything. I learned by pushing select on stuff and all that, I guess.
I could've been disappointed with the game because of how frustrated I was. But I gave it a chance, and it is now my absolute, unquestioned favorite game ever.
In fact, I'm going to go play it right now. And I'm going to start a new game and change Ramza's name to "BG-57". I may even hire a soldier and name it Despotus. Who knows?
P.S. on the subject of wacky names, try naming Ramza "Dycedarg" and play through the game. You'll see some super confusing conversations.
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Originally Posted by I'm my own MILF
Oh my, I actually hate SRPGs, most of them drive me crazy, but I do like this one. The game had opposite effects on us I guess =O Fascination!Quote:
Originally Posted by I'm my own MILF
This is exactly what I did! I kept dying during the first (real) fight because I was going in with Ramza and Delita and nobody else. I also discovered bringing in other people on accident...And then when I discovered that I felt like smacking myself around for not noticing before :jess:Quote:
Originally Posted by feioncastor
But yes, I'm the same as feioncastor... I did not look at guides or read up on the game, nor did I play the tutorial, I just kept playing and once all of it clicked it suddenly became fun. Figure out the buttons, the mechanics, get sucked into the character advancement, and make damn sure you resurrect characters before they go crystal on you.
If you still don't like it... Try the JP glitch xD!
And If you still don't like it, after all this fair chance, then the game just isn't for you and just sell it or somethin'.
After you meet Algus... You'll have all the motivation you need to keep playing the game.
The primary addictive replay value of Final Fantasy Tactics is that you can never uncover everything. And the five character limit is annoying at first but that's part of the challenge since you don't know what you're going up against until the battle begins...
I realized this when I was jump by "THE 13 MONKS OF GROG HILL"... Uh-huh, if you know what I'm talking about lemme hear ya say "Ungh- nah-nah-nah-nah". LOL
Trust me dude, when you finally start getting into the game, you're gonna get more frustrated when you're defeated than you were when you didn't understand the game.
Like the time one guy posted here how he finally stole ALL of the Silver Orge's items, forgot to save and a knight broke his Genji Armor...
Bascially, the customization, the challenges, the easter-eggs, the story is virtually limitless. Hell, you can even make a "Goku-Monk" character.
Monk + Time Mage Skill+ Teleport "
KAMEHAMEHAAAAAAAAAAAAAA! GENKI-DEMA!!!!!!
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Originally Posted by fix'd
Ungh- nah-nah-nah-nah. That's why I save after every battle. In case I run into an impossible fight like that, or I lose a character, I just reset without losing everything.Quote:
I realized this when I was jump by "THE 13 MONKS OF GROG HILL"... Uh-huh, if you know what I'm talking about lemme hear ya say "Ungh- nah-nah-nah-nah". LOL